by Chase Stallo
Sign of the Lap Times: Anaheim 2
Wednesday, January 23, 2013 | 9:20 AM
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PrintTake a deep dive inside the lap charts with this week's Sign of the Lap Times.
450SX Class
| Lap Rank | Finish | Best Lap | In Lap | Avg Lap Time | Rider |
| 1 | 1 | 52.892 | 5 | N/A | Ryan Villopoto |
| 2 | 2 | 53.467 | 9 | N/A | Trey Canard |
| 3 | 4 | 53.780 | 17 | N/A | Davi Millsaps |
| 4 | 3 | 53.813 | 4 | N/A | Chad Reed |
| 5 | 6 | 54.130 | 7 | N/A | Ryan Dungey |
| 6 |
5 | 54.264 | 8 | N/A | Jake Weimer |
| 7 | 7 | 54.574 | 8 | N/A |
Andrew Short |
| 8 |
12 | 54.675 | 14 | N/A | James Stewart |
| 9 | 8 | 54.985 | 12 | N/A | Justin Brayton |
| 10 | 13 | 55.151 | 8 | N/A | Weston Peick |
| 11 | 9 | 55.344 | 16 | N/A | Matt Goerke |
| 12 | 20 | 55.359 | 2 | N/A | Justin Barcia |
| 13 | 10 | 55.490 | 8 | N/A | Josh Grant |
| 14 | 11 | 55.538 | 10 | N/A | Broc Tickle |
| 15 | 14 | 55.851 | 9 | N/A | Mike Alessi |
| 16 | 15 | 56.096 | 3 | N/A | Kyle Chisholm |
| 17 | 16 | 56.322 | 10 | N/A | Vince Friese |
| 18 | 18 | 56.549 | 4 | N/A | Robert Kiniry |
| 19 | 17 | 57.099 | 6 | N/A | Chris Blose |
| 20 | 19 | 58.376 | 2 | N/A | Matt Lemoine |
* N/A = Not Available
450SX
Note: The AMA had problems with the 450SX lap data from Anaheim 2 and the average lap times are not available. We were able to acquire the fastest lap times from each rider, though.
Villopoto was the only rider with a lap in the 52-second range.
Simon Cudby photo
250SX Class
| Lap Rank | Finish | Best Lap | In Lap | Avg Lap Time | Rider |
| 1 | 1 | 54.031 | 12 | 54.715 | Eli Tomac |
| 2 | 3 | 54.238 | 4 | 55.636 | Cole Seely |
| 3 | 2 | 54.470 | 4 | 55.051 | Ken Roczen |
| 4 | 7 | 54.731 | 6 | 56.159 | Jason Anderson |
| 5 |
12 | 54.906 | 6 | 56.963 | Martin Davalos |
| 6 | 11 | 55.158 | 4 | 57.099 | Malcolm Stewart |
| 7 |
4 | 55.446 | 6 | 56.275 | Zach Osborne |
| 8 | 5 | 55.607 | 8 | 56.415 | Jake Canada |
| 9 | 6 | 55.914 | 9 | 56.664 | Christian Craig |
| 10 | 9 | 56.000 | 6 | 57.077 | Kyle Cunningham |
| 11 | 10 | 56.086 | 4 | 57.079 | Jessy Nelson |
| 12 | 13 | 56.246 | 8 | 57.660 | Travis Baker |
| 13 | 8 | 56.409 | 10 | 57.266 | Tyla Rattray |
| 14 | 14 | 57.799 | 6 | 59.149 | Dakota Tedder |
| 15 | 15 | 58.169 | 3 | 1:00.855 | Scott Champion |
| 16 | 16 | 58.243 | 6 | 1:02.607 | Dillan Epstein |
| 17 | 17 | DNF | DNF | DNF | Max Anstie |
| 18 | 18 | DNF | DNF | DNF | Joey Savatgy |
| 19 | 19 | DNF | DNF | DNF | Ryan Sipes |
| 20 | 20 |
DNF | DNF | DNF | Michael Leib |
250SX
- For the third consecutive week, Eli Tomac set the fastest lap in 250SX with a 54.031. He’s fastest lap of the night was also the latest fastest lap set.
- Tomac and Ken Roczen both set all of their laps under the 56-second mark. The only two riders in the field to achieve the feat.
- After a 1:03.804 on the opening lap, Jason Anderson reeled off 11 of 12 laps under 56-seconds, helping him climb back from fourteenth after lap 1 to finish seventh.
- Seven of fourteen riders, or half the field, that completed laps set a lap over the one-minute mark.
- Four riders failed to complete a lap in 250SX (Joey Savatgy, Ryan Sipes, Michael Leib and Max Anstie).
- Cole Seely’s two slowest laps of the night came on laps 13 (57.205) and 15 (58.656).
- Graduating from six-lap heats to 15-lap mains dept: Dillan Epstein, who made his first career main at Anaheim 2, had seven laps over the one-minute mark, including six straight to end the race. Coincidently, Scott Champion, who was also making his first main event appearance of 2013, had seven laps over one-minute, and like Epstein, six straight to end the race.
Comparison
Eli Tomac vs. Ken Roczen vs. Cole Seely – Laps 2-10
The stars finally aligned in 250SX at Anaheim 2. The top three contenders—Tomac, Roczen and Seely—opened an early gap in the main event and engaged in a full on donnybrook for a majority of the race. Tomac, winner of three straight, took over the lead on lap 11—the first full lap he recorded as leader. But let’s see how they got there.
| Lap | Eli Tomac | Ken Roczen | Cole Seely |
| 2 | 55.502 | 55.173 | 55.299 |
| 3 | 54.948 | 55.127 | 54.567 |
| 4 | 54.495 | 54.47 | 54.238 |
| 5 | 54.459 | 54.866 | 55.042 |
| 6 | 54.221 | 54.776 | 54.937 |
| 7 | 55.027 | 54.639 | 54.97 |
| 8 | 55.251 | 54.945 | 55.028 |
| 9 | 54.188 | 55.658 | 54.854 |
| 10 | 54.389 | 54.883 | 55.194 |
| Avg | 54.72 | 54.948 | 54.903 |
Tomac began his assault on lap 2 by dropping four consecutive laps under 55-seconds. But both Roczen and Seely answered, as Roczen nailed five-straight laps under 55-second, and Seely went sub-55 for five of seven laps. It looked like they might have had the stuff to hold the current points leader back, but, Tomac was able to ratchet up another charge on laps 9 and 10, dropping back down into low 54-second range. This time around Roczen and Seely were unable to match the pace and subsequently lost contact with Tomac—who set a scorching pace down the home stretch.
For the third straight week Eli Tomac set the fastest lap in 250SX.
Simon Cudby photo
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This is becoming one of my favorite articles. I could care less about lap times. In the scheme of things they really don't mean jack squat. I like the endless what if's that people come up with trying to prove my guy rules your guy drools. Even a prius could beat a top fuel dragster if the race is long enough.
stats are for nats!
I love the prius ! LOL
If I saw it right...RV also had 6 laps under the 53 second mark, unreal..
RV is just BEAST !! Hes going to make everyone chase their tail....
Any chance that 19 of them had the flu and RV got lucky?
I think Dungey needs to make a move, I've dogged him time and time again but he always proves me wrong. Don't make me right now Ryan! Do your thing and get in this battle, time is ticking.
I thinks it's BS when they say points to matter this early, come end of season if Dungey is down by 3 he will thinking about Phoenix and Anaheim.
James Stewart is the lone man than can run RV down, but it doesn't seem like he is up to the challenge anymore. Maybe he is thinking retirement himself? I am not dismissing the knee, I understand d it really sucks for him. He needs better drugs. Buy stock in Vicodin James
Easy there Mishoeye...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmxUsGiGp3w
God bless Top Gear.
@731...I had a 450hp camaro for awhile and could get 25 mpg. With my driving it was closer to 7. Mileage is all about the right pedal. I'm not sure what this has to do with what I said though.
I think Honda is well-represented in the 450 class right now, and that lessens the need for Tomac to move up (for the East races)...........unless taking points from the opposing title contenders is of importance, and who knows at this point?
While a resume-building appearance in the 450's (may) help(s) his future, GEICO still calls the shots on his race activities and I assume they are more concerned with that 250F West title.
BUT.......if E.T. wins every race before the east coast swing, isn't it a moot point who is the best 250F West racer?
damn i really wanted to see the Avg Lap Time's this week.
funny all the people that are complaining about the arenacross requirement for rookies to get into supercross. To all those people... look at the start of A1 and A2 in the 250 class. Both had HUGE crashes.... and both were caused by 1st year ROOKIES! What does that tell you? I have nothing against Nelson or Savagty, but those two each caused crashes and major injuries to other riders
IMO, Stewart could, possibly, hang with RV on his good day for a little, but no way he would run him down or make a pass stick. Also, he wouldn't maintain that pace for 20 laps.
@Mishoeye
Did you watch the clip? The M3 got better fuel economy than the Prius around their track, therefor the M3 would outlast the Prius if the race was long enough. Sure an M3 isn't a top fuel dragster as your statement referenced but it is still a fun little tid bit. And the last thing Jeremy said was "It isn't what you drive, it's how you drive it".
I was just posting it for some fun because your statement reminded me of that episode.
can anyone else tell that it seems those factory honda motors are making quite a bit more power or at least getting it to the ground better than most of the others. I remember last year at houston i was there and barcia came around the first turn and looked like he hit warp or turbo just way faster than everyone else
One thing you guys are missing the Prius is an ugly piece of junk..
@731...No, but I saw the episode before. It is interesting though. Awhile ago, a study was done on a original Hummer vs a prius in overall pollution. Meaning all the fuel and materials to build, dispose, vehicle life and so on. It turns out the batteries that are used cause MORE pollution because of the mining and transporting of batteries around the world. Not to mention how toxic they are afterwards. Also how long the useful life is on a Hummer, something like 5-6 times longer than a prius. Just like it is not about mileage or speed, SX racing is not about individual lap times.
Everybody needs to step it up to run with RV, I mean he dominated this race, but I am really surprised by how bad Dungey has been. I am curious to see if this is all cause by his poor starts, or if he just doesn't have it. His laptimes in practice are good, but in the race he gets bad starts and is just slow. I am interested to see what happens if Dungey gets a holeshot.
Misoheye, I have never met you but this video makes me think of you. I laughed so hard, I almost died.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZ4PtafRB9c
Do you remember when people were falsely claiming the throttles were sticking? I remember when the guy on the freeway admitted it was a big scam for him to get on TV. I had inside info on this from a dealer and knew it was the biggest farce ever
I await the explanation which clarifies that laptimes mean jack squat in the scheme of things.
Once the race starts that's all there is is laptimes. You either go fast or not fast enough. SX is 20 laps, so no point in pontificating the what -ifs of a 40 or 60 lap SX. Just like a dragster is focused on a 1/4 mile sprint, RV is focused on a 20 lap sprint. Wondering if any of the others could outlast RV in the Paris-Dakar rally is moot.
@BillC:
Avg Laptimes (can be found under the individual segment times on the SX website):
RV1- 54.144
TC41- 54.601
CR22- 54.642
DM18- 54.993
JW12- 55.217
RD5- 55.028
AS29- 55.780
JB10- 55.901
JS7- 55.893
in the scheme of things ...those 52's RV was droppin definitely mattered to Canard......
I'd like to see the top 20 or 40 lap times overall. For example, RV may have had the 1st, 2nd, 4th, 5th etc fastest times.
@rick...Almost, that's what I acted like before I started treating my night blindness organically. I would never drive a prius either. That might be tonewall though. I get the feeling that's what he's like. HaHa!
@villaslowdoh rumor was that mitch (pro circuit) was giving geico honda shitty pipes and whatever else they were getting from pro circuit and once they switched and went to yoshimura the pro circuit kawasaki's were not beating them as easily as they were before im not saying its true but that's what people were saying maybe chad needs to get a yoshi haha
MXBob:
RV had the 6 fastest lap times. RV had 9 total in the 53's. Canard had 4-53's, Reed had 3-53's, Millsaps had 1-53. Canard's fastest was finally faster than RV's 7th fastest lap.
Canard's fastest - 53.467
RV's 7th fastest - 53.482
Sorry, 8-53's for RV......1 was a 52.
Did anybody besides me find that video ridiculously funny??
Maybe nobody paid attention to the morons claiming Prius would suddenly floor themselves WOT and never stop. Almost as bad as democrats claiming SUVs have a mind of their own and kill people
@rick...Scientists are proving that as technology increases humans intelligence levels drop. Which is odd because with knowledge just a click away one would think the opposite would be true. That clip was funny, I know a guy that looks and acts like him just would never drive a prius. Lots of people can operate a car not many seem to know how to drive.
Isnt that the truth. I wonder if RV had his throttle being rolled on by itself A1? Th
Instead of hitting the kill button, he just rode that baby out to 16th like a macho macho man!
Kawi has been trying to figure out thru extensive testing, the unintended acceleration phenomenon.
Without looking, I can tell you that the rider with the fastest average lap time won the race. The 2nd fastest average lap time came in 2nd. And so on. Why? Because all of the racers travel the same distance (except the lappers). Therefore, the only difference is the total elapsed time. The one with the lowest average lap time wins. Every single time. (There are some timing errors above, e.g., M Davalos' time is incorrect.)
Also ... RV is the fastest rider, no matter what the math says. Thank you and goodnight.
If Villopoto really can just motor to the front like that, then he will threepeat- but we are only 3 races in and he has crashed a bunch. The question is- will the next 14 rounds be more like Anahiem 1 or Anahiem 3?