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Motocross of Nations Update: Second Moto

Sunday, September 30, 2012 | 9:55 AM

Not looking good for Team USA today--in fact, after two motos it's just about mathematically impossible for them to repeat as champions of the event today.

In moto one, Blake Baggett got a terrible start, then suffered a crash, and was only able to muster a 14th. Ryan Dungey got up to sixth at one point, but also had a crash, and finished seventh.

Germany rocked the first moto--Italy's MX1 King Antonio Cairoli won the moto overall, but Germany had two solid finishes from Ken Roczen and Max Nagl to lead the points.

In moto two, Justin Barcia got a good start in MX3, and got into a battle with Belgium's Ken de Dycker for second (Jeffrey Herlings gott the holeshot and checked out immediately). Barcia crashed in a collision with KDD, and busted some spokes in his front wheel. He fought to get into fifth, but the wheel locked up on the last lap, sending him into the pits for repairs. It was a heart-breaker for the team. Baggett, meanwhile, was better in the second race, inside the top ten, but it puts Team USA way back heading into the third moto.

Germany had another solid moto, Roczen finishing as the top MX2 rider again, and MX3 entrant Marcus Schiffer doing what he needed to do--getting a solid top ten. Belgium's hopes soured when MX2 rider Jeremy Van Horebeek's bike broke, but they can throwaway that result. With de Dycker finishing third in moto two, and Clement Desalle taking fourth in moto one, those two could deliver solid rides in moto three to keep the pressure on Germany. But heading into moto three, Germany looks headed to their first MXoN victory ever. Belgium needs some luck to win it.

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Stone wrote: 10:14am September 30, 2012

Let the excuses begin

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bucky394 wrote: 10:18am September 30, 2012

Thinkin' maybe some of these fast guys need to come on over and go for the MEC million. The more racers the better, and better racing is what we want! Thinkin' about a turnaround in the results though! LOL

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colewallwork wrote: 10:22am September 30, 2012

Instead of "let the excuses begin" it will be more like let the comment monkeys loose, cant wait to check back should be good.

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Ultra54 wrote: 10:36am September 30, 2012

Instead of "let the excuses begin" it will be more like let the comment monkeys loose, cant wait to check back should be good.

well said.

I'm going out on a limb here and figure Stone is a "fan" of the US. With fans like that shooting at your feet they're gunna have to come up with a ton of excuses. A case of eating your young. Build'm up so you can break'm down.

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Knobbywan_Kawnobi wrote: 10:40am September 30, 2012

Well... We should bring home the Ryder Cup today!

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fred wrote: 10:43am September 30, 2012

Who is the best sand rider now. It wouldn't susprise me if KTM put out a pit board to Herlings that said do not pass AC222.

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fred wrote: 10:44am September 30, 2012

Hate to say it but Dungey will probably be the one that gets the most back lash

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biker143 wrote: 10:48am September 30, 2012

We cant allways be the best ALL the time, I give props to the other countrys to a well deserved win. We are clearly not the best in the sand, no excuses.

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OldGreyMXer wrote: 10:50am September 30, 2012

Congrats Team Germany, Belgium, and USA! Great racing on a track so much unlike what we usually see!

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Stone wrote: 10:51am September 30, 2012

Congrats to Germany, Cairoli and Herlings. Very impressive. Bracia rode great also. Well done.

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rickamatuzio wrote: 10:59am September 30, 2012

Obviously Stanton knew what he was talking about.. Barcia being a good pick, and going fast on a 450.
Herlings is absolutely amazing, and I hate to say it.. but we kinda knew our OPEN class was in tough state. Being Dowd and Brown were able to just "show up" this year at 48 years old and finish just outside the top 5.
I have no doubt, USA will come back next year and work harder.. this will light a fire under Dungey.
No question, we floundered..
Also, itsnt it true that Cairoli was due? He has had such a tough time at the MXDN that I figured sooner or later he would have his day. And he did. Its the odds..

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rainmanx wrote: 11:06am September 30, 2012

What a butt kicking...OUCH! We were overdue for one. We might have to get used to this for a few more years. Times are a changin

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CrossRut wrote: 11:06am September 30, 2012

Congrats to Germany for the win, and Belgium for a strong second spot on the podium.
It seems that the deep sands of Lommel were indeed the Achilles heel of team USA.
Kroc and Max were total rock stars out there this weekend for team Germany.
TC and JH were a ton of fun to watch in the sandbox as well.

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jzdirtrider wrote: 11:06am September 30, 2012

On any given Sunday (Saturdays here now). If we can't be the winnners than I'm happy for Germany with their FIRST every MXoN championship. Roczen is a great asset for our sport. Must be a vicious track though. Pressure is tough as always too.

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Stone wrote: 11:06am September 30, 2012

@rickamatuzio, too true.

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Rufus Cornpone wrote: 11:08am September 30, 2012

Congratulations to Germany with consistant rides...Lommel was an aberation, 95% of mx tracks are not sand...only proves good sand riders ride good in the sand...which Cairoli and Herlings did beautifully and they are very good...It's tough to lose, but man up and give credit where credit is due... congrats to the individual moto winners and the German team

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B-KR wrote: 11:11am September 30, 2012

Nagl was the surprise for me as I knew Cairoli and Herlings would be in front. Dungey was also a surprise, but I hope he doesn't let it get him down too much. You did your best Ryan and have upheld America's honor for several years now with class. You will again in the coming years. Also I really hope there isn't any backlash from anyone as sheet happens and that's why they hold the races. I also hope the legions of GP fans can try to be better winners than they have shown to be losers in the past. With that said....enjoy this victory while it lasts!

Congrats to Germany! They certainly earned it.

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jzdirtrider wrote: 11:12am September 30, 2012

A Gerrman team riding German bikes! This will be historical no doubt.......

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srp140 wrote: 11:13am September 30, 2012

ktm is the real champ here !

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pizzacorner wrote: 11:13am September 30, 2012

Bummer... but our guys should not feel bad, they tried hard. Congrats to the winners.

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srp140 wrote: 11:17am September 30, 2012

lets have a real world champiship where all the top riders race 24 motos of 30 mins plus 2 laps and see who is on top ! maybe we could call it the ama nationals !









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BillC wrote: 11:18am September 30, 2012

7-1 in that last 8 years for team USA so don't get to excited team USA haters. you got 1 win in 8 years and how many of ya are even from Germany?? your just happy USA did not win even though your team did not either and that in its self is pretty sad!!

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srp140 wrote: 11:19am September 30, 2012

and get this , they pay the riders to race !

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srp140 wrote: 11:21am September 30, 2012

you go bill c !! tell them the way it is !

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rainmanx wrote: 11:25am September 30, 2012

@BILLC. It's not about haters all the time. This isn't the last 8 years either. This is 2012. It's about competition and winning and losing. You kind of sound like a "hater" yourself when you bring up the past. Not unlike Euro fans back in the early '80s

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B-KR wrote: 11:28am September 30, 2012

BillC, what I don't get is a lot of the team USA haters are apparently Americans. But whatever floats your boat I guess. As we all said it would take some bad luck and the US team had plenty of it. In a way I'm glad it played out like it did....if Barcia had gotten a 3rd or 4th in his first moto there would have been a ton of pressure on Dungey in the final moto as the US would still have had a shot. If he got a 9th when a 5th or 6th could have won it, that would have been a tough blow for him to deal with. Can't wait to watch the races tonight (if they come on as alleged) to see how things actually went. But again congrats to Germany and all the anti-US guys too.

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Stone wrote: 11:28am September 30, 2012

Ah the Racer X forum. Where people can be anything they like. Too bad so many choose to be idiots

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dash wrote: 12:05pm September 30, 2012

The fastest dude around never went for team usa, next yr with a healthy RV, it should be back to the winning games again. RV outdoors is the man. I like Dungey, but RV has his number for now. As far as Germany goes, I think Roczen is a great asset to this sport. Congrats to them. All things considered, the euro's are closing the gap, good for them.

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tpayne wrote: 12:06pm September 30, 2012

I just LOVE this sport!
Congrats...
What if.....
next time....
I just love it all!

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tpayne wrote: 12:07pm September 30, 2012

Sorry, but looking ahead....Where is the race next year scheduled for?

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JimboMX374 wrote: 1:27pm September 30, 2012

Props to the winning teams and moto winners ....

No excuses...........I too am eating sand .....grumble grumble....

"I'll be back"

JimM
Pala374

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ManiacsXtrem wrote: 4:07pm September 30, 2012

You Euro-Puffers all act like your riders are good or something.... They beat us on a track that they all know and ride every year. This isn't a show of skill.... this is a gift.... and I hope they enjoyed it. Next year will be on a normal track.... and your Euro riders will be fighting for second place agian.

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ElsinoreRacer wrote: 4:22pm September 30, 2012

Take it like a man.

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Jesus wrote: 6:30pm September 30, 2012

America's still the best! (at believing they are)

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