The Moment: Indy
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Riders
- Ryan Dungey
- Brett Metcalfe
- James Stewart
- Chad Reed
- Ryan Villopoto
- Ben Townley
- Kevin Windham
- Trey Canard
Races
There was a something special about Ryan Dungey’s 2010 Monster Energy Supercross season right from the start—he grabbed the holeshot in the first main event in Anaheim, then run and hid from the field for most of the night. James Stewart, the defending AMA SX Champion at the time, mounted a late run and managed to pass Dungey for the lead, but even then, the Rockstar Makita Suzuki rookie stayed close and nearly passed Stewart back on the final lap.
Dungey was off to a strong start. He carried that momentum, pulling holeshots, winning races, even surviving a wild crash in San Francisco that should have left him limping. He later delivered a championship in supercross, and another in AMA Motocross.
It’s true that this year, Dungey is facing stiffer competition, and his results have not been the same. But it also seems like that magic touch from last year has left him. Regardless of how fast Ryan Villopoto, Stewart and Chad Reed are going, Dungey has also faced the type of bad luck that he seemed impervious to last year. He also hasn’t pulled holeshots like he did early in 2010.
Dungey has been riding well enough, he just seems to lack that little extra something, that knack for being in the right place at the right time like he was so many times last year. You could easily make the case that he’s riding as well, if not better, than Reed and Trey Canard, for example, who both have wins. But this year Canard was in position to snatch one up when Kevin Windham fell in Houston, and Reed snagged one when Canard crashed in San Diego.
Dungey saw another missed opportunity Saturday night in Indy. Sick of waiting and watching the others get the glory, he pushed it early. He bumped Canard and got into third. Then he battled Reed aggressively for second, until he clipped Reed’s rear wheel and went down. “Just a mistake, I didn’t think Reed was going to stop that quickly,” Dungey explained.
It seemed like last year, in a game of inches, Dungey was always on the better side of the scenario. At Red Bud, Dungey moved from third to first when Ben Townley and Reed crashed into each other. At Southwick, Brett Metcalfe ran out of gas while leading Dungey on the last lap. If this were last year, Dungey would have missed Reed’s tire and moved into second. He may have mounted a run at race winner Ryan Villopoto. Instead, fell and lost the chance to build momentum, just like he did last week when he led Villopoto in a heat race, only for his engine to give out.
So far this year, Dungey has not only been unable to catch Villopoto. He’s also not catching the breaks.
Dungey was off to a strong start. He carried that momentum, pulling holeshots, winning races, even surviving a wild crash in San Francisco that should have left him limping. He later delivered a championship in supercross, and another in AMA Motocross.
It’s true that this year, Dungey is facing stiffer competition, and his results have not been the same. But it also seems like that magic touch from last year has left him. Regardless of how fast Ryan Villopoto, Stewart and Chad Reed are going, Dungey has also faced the type of bad luck that he seemed impervious to last year. He also hasn’t pulled holeshots like he did early in 2010.
Dungey has been riding well enough, he just seems to lack that little extra something, that knack for being in the right place at the right time like he was so many times last year. You could easily make the case that he’s riding as well, if not better, than Reed and Trey Canard, for example, who both have wins. But this year Canard was in position to snatch one up when Kevin Windham fell in Houston, and Reed snagged one when Canard crashed in San Diego.
Dungey saw another missed opportunity Saturday night in Indy. Sick of waiting and watching the others get the glory, he pushed it early. He bumped Canard and got into third. Then he battled Reed aggressively for second, until he clipped Reed’s rear wheel and went down. “Just a mistake, I didn’t think Reed was going to stop that quickly,” Dungey explained.
It seemed like last year, in a game of inches, Dungey was always on the better side of the scenario. At Red Bud, Dungey moved from third to first when Ben Townley and Reed crashed into each other. At Southwick, Brett Metcalfe ran out of gas while leading Dungey on the last lap. If this were last year, Dungey would have missed Reed’s tire and moved into second. He may have mounted a run at race winner Ryan Villopoto. Instead, fell and lost the chance to build momentum, just like he did last week when he led Villopoto in a heat race, only for his engine to give out.
So far this year, Dungey has not only been unable to catch Villopoto. He’s also not catching the breaks.
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Holesot! hehe
Err, holeshot
Lets be real.. Dungey doesn't want to win as bad as stewie and RV2.. They have both always been on a higher level than Dungey. RV2 won 7 straight last year when Dungey was having a huge streak of good luck....
Humble pie sucks no matter how you slice it. I like Dungey, but let's call it like it is. He is not losing because of bad luck, he is losing because the fastest riders are back racing. Dungey got to enjoy the benefits of being a champion without having to dethrone the existing champ. The only luck Dungey had last year was having the best riders all injured.
For the record, I believe Dungey will be a champion again, and probably not too many years from now. But, as of right now, the guys who should have won last year are back and healthy and taking back what is rightfully theirs.
Dungey is missing the magic of Decoster.
It's not my fault everybody got hurt last year, all I did was ride to the best of my robot ability.
The fact that the other riders are not crashing as violently or as often as last season means that they have copied all my programs.........anything else does not compute
The moment was.....lap 2-4
The lap chart only track the individual time for laps 2 - 20. With Stewart having a bad start and RV getting into first early we can safely say RV had the faster 1st lap.
From laps 2 - 20
RV fastest in laps: 2, 3, 4, 8, 10, 13, 16, 19, 20
JS fasted in laps: 5, 6, 7, 9, 11, 12, 14, 15, 17, 18
So in 20 laps RV fastest in 10 and JS fastest in 10.
When RV saw the JS was closing in the end, he stepped up and put the fastest laps down that last two laps to maintain the victory.
I would conclude from this race that we have VERY evenly matched speed from these two riders.
Also keep in mind, RV had to come into the lappers first and that doe have some impact as well...as we witnessed.
One more thing.
And the individual fastest lap difference?
RV 48.433
JS 48.295
A gap of just .138 That is just over 1/10 of 1 second!!
So perhaps folks could back down on the strong opinions of speed when the facts clearly support something else...reality.
wow, dungey did something nobody, and i mean nobody, carmichael, mcgrath ever did, four titles back to back. the kid is a phenom. rv has done nothing and quit frankly im tired of hearing about it. he is having a rough year at what 20 21? rv had rough years his whole life. oh wait he won something on the lites till trey kicked his butt. dungey will be back. true champ.
Dungey just needs to build the fire again , I mean he won everything last year while Villapoto was sitting out and building up steam . I think a little losing can be very motivating if you take it as a challange to step up your game .
if thats fact cant you say that js7 was in traffic the whole time while rv was out front with a clear track and only had that many fast laps and speed is on js7 side for sure did you know there have only been two races this year that he has not had the fastest lap time?????clearly you have your facts mix up
I agree decoster, means alot. when your a kid. stuff like that means alot. and yes they are kids. but he will mature. rv probably never will. thats one mixed up kid. bubba and reed just wanna win and trey is a good kid.
Here a possible future. RD continues to struggle this year, maybe get a victory in SX. In real racing, AMA Motocross Nationals, RD does well but contiues to struggle to put up victories.
In a surprise early announcement before the MX season is over, it becomes known that RD will once again be united with Roger Decoster! Competing on the KTM 450 in both SX and MX.
Why all the talk and articles about Dungey, Stewart and Reed, with very little press devoted to Villopoto? Has anybody noticed the last 3 races and 5 of 10 rounds to date have been won by the #2 Kawasaki?
Nope. The argument that JS was in traffic is incorrect. On lap 1 he was in 5th and 3.5 seconds back. On lap 2 he was in 4th
Lap one - RV, CR, RD, IT, JS
Lap two - RV, CR, RD, JS.
What traffic??
Mr. McGrath! Yes, I have very much noticed the mighty KX450, with RV as pilot, out front.
I love the motor on this bike, I really do!
"domo arigato Mr. Dungeboto"
hahahahahahahahahahahahahah. Oh lord did I laugh.
Dungey did have more luck last year than just the competition being out. His own mistakes were limited by good luck (jumping up after flying off the bike in San Francisco, hitting Windham instead of flying off the track), plus the bad luck of Villopoto (the dirt in the exhaust pipe comes to mind before the broken leg).
Now he's got some bad luck this year to make up for it. Without the DNF, he'd likely be second in points and first to capitalize on any mistakes RV might make. He will be strong in the future, and might still win before the season's up.
all the articles bout others are because if you no what your watching, poto is not dominate. there are five riders that can win. poto had the most breaks. look at the facts. almost bet, he will throw it away and hurt himself, he is not real bright.
DeCoster was a real inspiration to Dungey, RD really looked up to him. I said before the season started Dungey's gonna find out the difference between brush & timber, but DeCoster woulda added confidence, guidance and motivation. I'm 49 and have loved the...........I mean Da Man since I was on a QA-50 Honda 41 years ago.
Here is how it played out this weekend. Each gap between represents a change in position among the top 4 (JS)
Should kill any argument about from last to 2nd, or having to deal with traffic, etc.
1 -2, 22, 1, 9, 7
2 -2, 22, 1, 7
3 -2, 22, 1, 7
4 -2, 22, 1, 7
5 -2, 22, 1, 7
6 -2, 22, 1, 7
7 -2, 22, 1, 7
8 -2, 22, 1, 7
9 2, 22, 1, 7
10 -2, 22, 7, 1
11 -2, 22, 7, 1
12 -2, 7, 22, 1
13 -2, 7, 22, 1
14 -2, 7, 22, 1
15 -2, 7, 22, 1
16 -2, 7, 22, 1
17 -2, 7, 22, 1
18 -2, 7, 22, 1
19 -2, 7, 22, 1
20 -2, 7, 22, 1
So much talent on the track this year; what a great time to be an SX fan. The heart and talent of all these guys (Villopoto, Stewart, Reed, Dungey and Canard) is amazing. That said, the guy on top has shown in every way that he deserves to be there thus far. There's a lot more to racing than putting together a couple fast laps.
Is it just me or do I see some writing up there reminiscent of the pot calling the kettle black?
@Open Class: I guess it is fair to question the power of Villopoto's bike...he almost shouldn't be as good as he is this year. He was the same speed as Dungey last year, and now he's Stewart's speed. Impressive, since Dungey's ridden so much more.
Villopoto has always had Dungey's number with one exception; last year Dungey was faster on flat slick corners. I suspect we'll see Dungey shine again in those conditions. Can you say Vegas?
@everybody
THIS SEASON *****ING RULES!!!!!!
that is all
Holy crap rmzguy. You should let that stranglehold on Dungeys lucky sack go and come back to reality. Villipoto is immature and not very bright? Your knowledge is mind boggling.
Wow!!!! RMZ guy put down the pipe , you have absolutely ZERO idea what your talking about. Also trading the basically unbeatable (check the record books) RMZ for a ktm would not be a good trade at least not for awhile. RD is a great rider he just needs Erin to ask him some funky questions BEFORE the race and take some of that anger to the starting line.
Just love the sport. The time these guys put in is amazing to me. Trash talk go for it were on the same track. Lets race.
The Villopoto haters are coming out lol
Hello,Hello.... Hey Jason I was just wondering how Mr.Dungey was the MOMENT @ Indy?
And I have to agree with many of the posts as far as RV2 being for the most part ignored or if you do say anything about him it's for the most part negative, what's up with that? He has come back from a serious injury and rode they way a pro should but all we hear is he got lucky/he didn't deserve to win etc or nothing at all, he's made the best of the bad nights and been up front any other time but all we hear about is RD,JS7,REED,CANARD etc even #800 has gotten more press,give the guy the respect he deserves.
And as far as you go rmzguy, do you wear a helmet when you go for a ride in the special bus? I mean if RV2 isn't very bright then you must be a black hole.....
I do think Dungey is headed toward KTM. Why in the world wouldn't he be? There is no doubt that the RMZ 450 is one of, if not THE most developed & successful model runs in SX/MX history but, let's not put things entirely out of perspective. Roger DeCoster, Mike Gosselar & Ian Harrison have had the cream of the crop riding,racing and continually developing the bike into what is on the track today. All these things were done with historically (in U.S. racing) the least aggressive manufacturer in terms of dollars spent for racing (i.e. R&D, development, rider salaries, etc.). What the X factor in all of this success is Roger DeCoster and, this is not a new phenomenon. He took a job at American Honda in the early 80's and turned the company into the dominant team in U.S. racing history and average riders into champions / legends. Everywhere that guy goes, success follows. Why would Dungey let that opportunity slip away? Also, considering Suzuki's financial woes (not being able to pay Dungey's bonuses, dropping their ATV MX champion, etc, etc.) only compounds the motivation for Dungey to realign himself with the man.
This season is amazing. No doubt in my mind that all these guys deserve the biggest respect. I think it is cool that Villopoto is in the lead. Stewart is the fastest, but it doesnt matter when your hanging in the throttle. ;)
I like Dungey for the fact that he is riding "like me". Consistent, and without taking too many chances. Compared to my brother who is riding like Stewart, and has a leg full of steel.
RMZguy.. Lol..
As far as Dungey making a mistake trading an RMZ for a KTM goes, thats hogwash. KTM is a focused company that has competition motorcycles as their primary product, not cars, musical instruments, locomtives, guns or anything else under the sun, just racing motorcycles (which I really dig). KTM has Red Bull as a sponsor now and thus, has the dollars to spend on a premeire-caliber racing program (they are poised to become the antithesis to Monster / Kawasaki) which, has particular relevance to Dungey considering his Suzuki payroll issues. They have the most aggressive development program (they absorbed massive costs to develop & release a completley new bike design (linkage) in an economy that has the best business' at a standstill). They have a Shootout-winning bike in their 450 (from MXA, anyway. I personally don't consider freestyle or dual-sport magazine rankings as relevant to racing bikes) and horspower hasn't ever really been a problem for KTM. Another thing KTM has going for them is Roger DeCoster which, for Dungey (and anybody else with success on their mind), is reason enough.
Dungey will only go ktm koz of roger, and maybe if more muney, But i hope he stays loyal 2 the brand he has been with for so long! Sue-zoo-KEY!! And yea lets not also forget that he a droped atleast 20 or so points from his dnf, so with that he'd be 3 or 2nd in points and maybe the most consistant without the dnf ?? food for thort. I say wait for the real racing.. OUTDOORS!
stewart vs. villopoto. lites class. outdoors. historical facts.
stewart's first season: +137 (jesseman/reg tit)
stewart's second season: -30 (langston/2x reg tit - 125 out - 450 out - 125 world)
stewart's third season: +179 (hepler/no titles)
137 - 30 + 179 = 296 points ahead of second place riders
opponents had (3) reg tit - (1) 125 out -(1) 125 world - (1) 450 out
villopoto's first season: +35 (alessi/no titles)
villopoto's second season: +19 (townley/reg tit-mx2 world)
villopoto's third season: +72 (dungey/reg tit-lites out-450 sx-450 out)
35 + 19 + 72 = 126 points ahead of second place riders
opponents had (2) reg tit - (1) mx2 world - (1) 450 out - (1) 450sx
villopoto won 19 races out of a possible 36, which is 52%
stewart won 29 races out of a possible 35, which is 83% .
As you can see, stewart was far more dominant outdoors than villopoto, on the lites bikes, despite having one less title.
Villopoto has only one 450 outdoor national to his resume.
stewart has a 450 perfect season, not to mention a full 450 season, battling against ricky carmichael. How many times has villopoto raced against a 'ricky carmichael' ?
I think it is going to be good, but not the way some people are forseeing it.
get your butt out there and race stewart.
just do it.
i will post this again.
very nice ama site. it has all records, from 1999 - 2011.
://old.motorsport.com/news/series.asp?S=AMA&Y=2003
He is just not good at passing, Like I said last year but everyone screamed at me but I was right. He screwed around with Reed for about 10 laps!!! RD was faster then Reed but COULD NOT PASS HIM!!! RV Blow past Reed and left him, JS came from Way back to pass RD and REED like nothing and pull away wile RD dicked around for ever and could NOT make the F ing pass!!! The Pressure is Getting to RD for sure!! He was PISSED after the race and was very short with Erin and not his normal nice guy.
I became a Dungey fan when he was the under dog riding in RV's shadow. I loved seeing him succeed last year. I did lose a little of respect for his riding Saturday night watching him ride around behind Reed. It looked to me like, on several occassions, Dungey had the pass made but refused to use some aggression to make it stick. If he contines to ride like a ***** while the other guys actually battle it out, he'll be done.
Trick,
All that info is meaningless? Racing is not about individual races or individual dominant performaces. It is about stringing a bunch of races (SX) and Motos (MX) together to get a title...PERIOD.
All your stats show is that with all that there seems to be something going on with Stewart. At the time of his dominant capabilities he was unable to capitalize on it in terms of titles. THAT is all that you have indicated.
That, and RV was able to capitalize on his, at the time, capabilities.
So, while a lovely trip through the past, let's now get to the present.
No one rider appears to be individually race dominant (Again, please see my post on laps and times), but one rider is capitalizing on his capabilities.
If you have to ride beyond your capabilities to beat the competition and you are on the ground because of it, well then is that NOT your actual capability?
Oh in case anyone missed the point, you ride your best pace that allows you to be consistent. It is about consistency and not any one lap.
Risks are taken only when they need to be taken and with a 26 point lead, there is not need to take any risks.
For those are new to the sport, have a desire to learn and to gain insight into SX/MX racing, please take hands of keys and pay attention to some of the folks who are providing good info.
For the idiots, by definition there is nothing that can be done for you.
What is a reg tit anyway; something you suckle regularly? I don't think anyone disputes JS7's talent, I don't think anyone can (or will) match his speed, they don't call him "Crazy Balls" for nothing.
In regard to the Carmichael/Villopoto question, the answer is one race. It was pehaps the most dominate performace in MX history and nobody that doubts Villopoto today was at that race. Those who were there watched the RV2 show as he put the wood to the entire MX world on a 250F, sporting the number 2 for the very first time. It was the 2007 MX of Nations and he laid waste to everyone (including RC) in every way imaginable; lap times, finish position, you name it. RC will be the first to tell you; nobody had anything for him that weekend.
Carlsbad.. Agree regarding KTM.. They are very focused as a bike manufacturer.. And they have been the best when it comes to enduro.. They are now tackling the MX scene in Europe/Worldwide and now the US is the last logical step for them to undertake and it is just a matter of time they will be good at it.
I just hope, they will give DeCoster enough freedom to make the required changes..A s KTM like many european manufacturers.. Has a tendency to be over managed..
They are lucky to have Redbull as a partner... And they will remain so as both are austrian... And i know, Redbull would nothing more to squash Monster's presence in the SX scenery..
As for RD ever joining KTM because of DeCoster... I think that could become a reality. He has always mentioned several times whether it be a interview or anything else.. He thanks DeCoster on many occasions.
Never knew there were $$ issues.. Even though, Suzuki is cutting back...
The 'Dunge' was too nice. He could have easily taken Reed's line on that second corner from the finish line. I know damn well that Reed would have stuffed it in there. Dungey doesn't have that killer instinct when it comes to passing but I have the utmost respect for him.
The "Moment" that I saw was after the race a on TV.... RD was about to cry because he isn't winning. What people have been saying all season is becoming reality and it is eating him alive....JS and RV passed Reed easily, JS didnt even have to set Reed up and RD followed Reed around the track for 15 laps pretty much and only really tried to pass hin when Reed was about to puke on the last lap, but he still managed to shut RD down. RD is a great rider we all know that, but he doesnt have what it takes to beat the top 3 yet. He'll get there eventually, but his rookie year in the 450's was blessed with luck and now its back to the real world...The same thing will happen outdoors. Dungey will be in the top 5 consistently and may squeak out a few moto wins, but I am afraid JS and RV will walk away from him... ..I see RD moving over to Honda if anything......
Lots of people seeing what I saw last year. Everyone kept saying I hate RD But that was never the case. I just knew he was not as good as everyone thought he was. Before the season even started when RC, Fro, and the rest picked RD I said NO way not going to happen. People laught at me them and called me a heter again...
BillC, if Dungey isnt that good, what does that say for the guys he beat every moto at the Des Nations?? Do I think he is the best? No, but he is racing the best in the world right now, and is in 4th with a mechanical DNF, not bad if you ask me.
SX 2011 has been great so far. Both classes are exciting to watch with good battles each week, even if the broadcast omits them, developing intriguing story lines for the following race. RV is, without a doubt, in the points lead but, just as sure as that there are more races left! Love this Sport!
I don’t know about all the FACTS that are claimed in these comments...do you race at the Pro level? Do you know what it means to actually line up with RV, JS, CR, & RD and tell yourself you will get the holeshot? That’s a NO!
Stop speculating about the consistency and capabilities of the top echelon of the sport as if you're the foremost authority. Besides, as soon as you say these things are indisputable facts you are closing your mind to any other prospective. That’s the mark of the ignorant, not a trait of the intelligent.
Didierlotsyeng, the over managed thing sounds pretty accurate but, in KTM's case, they are chock full of ex-racers in their ranks. Come decision making time I feel like they would consistently default towards performance / benefitting the motorcycle whereas, a j-brand would always go for profits, over all else. I still think there is some establishing KTM needs to accomplish (grassroots support programs (think team green), dealer networks, parts availability, etc) but, looking at what they've done in the time they've had, they will become a force in short order. Dungey is young enough for the brand to want him as their "face man" in U.S. racing for years to come (face man because his image is squeaky clean and he's competitive enough to be top 2 or 3, if not champion, consistently over the next several years).
bd200, Thats why he is 4TH, Like I have said before he is NOT at the same level as RV or JS, They both blow by REED but RD dicked around for at least 10 laps and could NOT make a pass. Also when I said last year that I did not think he was as good you slammed me for it, and when I said he was not a good passer you slammed me for that too. So don't ya think now you should say you were right Bill he is not as good as I thought?? You told me last year that he had matched or surpased where JS was and i said I don't think soooooo.
I think Dungey is going to win this weekend. He was pissed that he was nice and didn't take Reed down, only to have him come back and jump over his bars. This is after Dungey trying to be nice and not cost Reed time or more positions earlier. I think that Ryan learned a big lesson this week. No matter how considerate and non-aggressive he is with them, they are going to run it in on him. He could have easily pushed Canard out of the way and taken that win, but he seems to take the friendship with him on the track. His attitude after the Indy Main suggests to me that it's no more Mr. Niceguy! Villipoto seemed different after that race, I'm wondering if he's starting to feel the weight of the title? You can't deny that something was on his mind. I think Dungey will EARN his first Main win this weekend, he's sick of losing.
Aaron, ha ha ! Next time you try to make fun of someone may I suggest you not choke ? That faux pas will be hardf to live down ! Carlsbad. Johsnon Bailey Omara Magoo average riders ? Let me beat you to the names of Stanton and Kehoe as you search for a way to clean that up.
Dirt
RD is having some growing pains, glad to see his passion. He will wear that number one plate again for sure. The article has it completly right luck has not been on his side, if not for that DNF he would be in 2nd place and well within striking distance, if no for that dnf in the heat race when he was pulling away from RV he would of likely won the main event. Reed has been giving RD several valuable lessons this year, its Reeds cunning and not speed that has kept him above RD on several occasions this year. Dungey is smart and will learn and only get better. RV is riding great and I think we can attribute his bump up to Aldon Baker imo. Any way you look at it its an amazing season, loving it!
First off I picked RV to win indoors and out , but this dungey bashing is ill spoken.
Give the guy 18 points for his each 2DNFs and he's at 219 , TWO points behind RV. Heavy wears the crown............... Yeah he misses DeCoster, who wouldnt, but the guy just tightened up under the expectations, Period. .Outdoors he finishes at least second.
JimM
65cobra.......... Excellent point re the experience factor, never looked at it that way.
JimM
JimboMX374 RD only DNF'ed 1 race and the BEST he could have done that night is 4th, he would have got 5th more likely though, So you could add 16 points for that. He would still be 22 points out though NOT 2 points like you say.
BillC............ I know its what ifs but snapped chain and hole in case, correct ? If so, 18(4ths) x 2 = 36 +183 = 219 -221 = 2 point deficit. or given 5th its 215 or 6 pts down. Jim
The hole in the case was in the HEAT race not the main, He got 3rd in main so he only DNF'ed 1 race.
I bow before you !
Jim
It bugs the absolute shit out of me when folks put RD5 on the same level as James or Villopoto... They pass him like he's sitting still and at will.. there is no battle... they catch and blow by him ... Plus, eventhough he got those Championships.. and he rightfully earned em blah blah blah... how boring was it? Also, how dull and boring of a champ would he make?... I know he's a class act ect... no argument there... but damn, let me go ahead and tell you what 90 percent of his next 20 interviews and podium talks are going to be.. "Jeez, I'm super pumped... i'd like to give it up to the man above, and of course if it wasn't for my sponsors i wouldn't be here"... and when there is any kind of drama or issues.. "Keep moving forward"...
I'd rather hear RV sit on a tailgate and smack on a PBJ and talk sarcastically to Mathes or watch one of them dumb Rick James Stewart vidoes then here the same boring dumb politically correct Dungey BS over and over and over and over.. Yaaaawwnnn.
I can't wait until The Bro Show Gets Big James at Manager, gets rid of them shitty Yamaha's and Mookie and Stewie stomp all over everybody!..
I got "Team Bro Show Fever" and the only prescription is "More Team Bro Show"
I totally just rambled on.. sorry for the ADD moments.. but, ya'll smell what i'm cooking?
Half of the people on this forum who bash dungey probably couldn't get his 450 started if they wanted to. And yes he won his championships with out the full field there for competition but any rider who runs top five consistently deserves a friggin medal and a championship at some point so they can be remembered for being faster than the other 10 million riders in the united states. And if you think dungey will never win again your out of your mind.
C'mon Okay... with fuel injection the percentages of bashers could at least get the ole 450 cranked... We're just fans talking crap... where would they be without us... the lover and the haters?
Oh yea "Okay".. if you think he'll win with this field of riders.. your dead wrong... maybe if they all get hurt again... and hey.. just think.. Jason Lawrence will be racing outdoors this season... he'll have something for him too.. ha ha... Lighten up and go rub one off in front of your dungey poster since you love him so much
You have to admire OpenClass and his relentless efforts to diminish EVERYTHING that JS does!!
Open Class, this may be a different Series if it was RV that was behind 26 pts., as u said there is no need to take risks with a 26 pt lead, as I said RV can just ride it out with that pts. lead, its that simple, he has had the breaks, there is no pressure on him now, where the other guys have to push harder & risk making mistakes!
I honestly dont remeber saying he was a good passer, I did say he was the best out there, RV wasnt racing but it wasnt Dungeys fault is what I said. And I said he deserved a ton of credit for what he accomplished and I wasnt going to water it down. And I still defend him for that, look at what he did in the Des Nations. Never said nothing about his passing. Again I'll ask, "what does that say about the top guys in the GP's??
EVERYONE ON HERE IS AN EXPERT HUH? WHY DONT U GUYS WORK FOR RACER X THEN?
RD is a GREAT rider BD200 thats why he kicked butt at the MXD, I never said he was not great but get the lable of an RD hater because I saw his flaws. I said last year I did not think he was a good passer and everyone slammed me for it but Now everyone see's it too. I also said I don't think he is as good as RV or JS and got slammed for that too but again I was right. People did not want to hear it last year but I saw it.
i see dungey as a 'work in progress'. everybody just relax.
I agree Trick, I am talking about the Guys from last year that told me RD is the next Goat!! He maybe someday but NOT yet.