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Sign of the (Lap) Times: Glendale

Sign of the (Lap) Times: Glendale

February 9, 2016, 2:35pm
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Ken Roczen grabbed his first win of 2016 in Glendale and RCH co-owner Carey Hart was pumped on it. “It was a great night,” stated Hart in a team statement. “I was hoping to get a win and hopefully this means that Ken will be on a heater and he'll win a lot of races. He was solid all night and his starts were great. His start in the main event was pretty much flawless. The track got really loose and he adapted well. Hopefully, this will translate into some momentum as we go back to San Diego and start to head east.”

After last week’s race, we saw Eli Tomac, his father John, and a bunch of Monster Energy Kawasaki brass in a serious meeting outside the team truck. After a disappointing seventh-place finish, changes had to be made. The team worked on new settings for three days between the races and it paid off with Eli’s first appearance on the box this season, with a third place finish. “It feels great to finally get up on the podium”, said Tomac. “This is exactly how we wanted to rebound after last weeks’ performance. We worked really hard all week and it paid off. Overall, the day was smooth and the team and I are making steps in the right direction. It’s a long season, we just need to keep riding, working hard and we’ll end up where we want to.”

Honda HRC’s Cole Seely started the main off with a fifth place start, but on lap four he stalled his bike while in third. He dropped to ninth before getting going again and eventually finishing in eighth. “I’m not happy with how tonight went at all. I felt like I was riding well all day, and I was running third in the main event when something happened and the bike stalled,” Seely said in a team statement. “By the time I got going again I was about ninth or tenth and was only able to make up a few spots before the end of the race. Definitely not what I wanted but we’ll work on things this week, figure out what happened and try to improve next weekend.”

 Hey look! Wil Hahn was tenth again. After two horrible years with injuries, and a few too many trips to the LCQ, The Monster Energy Kawasaki rider is starting to show positive signs. “Tonight was a huge improvement,” said Hahn. "From the start of qualifying to the Main Event, we made progress all the way through the day. I can’t thank Monster Energy Kawasaki enough with how patient they have been with me and for allowing me to grow. Another 10th tonight but I really felt I earned this one. Looking forward to next weekend and continuing to progress.” 

Wilbur's getting better every weekend.
Wilbur's getting better every weekend. Cudby

Jake Weimer struggled in Glendale. He had a big crash in practice that we suspect took some starch out of the Soaring Eagle/Jimmy John’s RCH Suzuki rider. “It was a tough night,” Weimer explained in a team statement. “All day was just a little bit of a struggle. I really struggled in the whoops and trying to get some confidence on that part of the track, in particular. We had some big whoops at an earlier round and I kind of struggled there. I need to improve on that. I crashed in practice so I was sore and had to deal with that. I think the bike is good. It was just me. I’m comfortable. I like the bike but I still need to work on a couple things. I was just a bit off but I know what I need to work on and we’ll be ready for San Diego.”

Kudos to 450SX privateers Alex Ray (Spider Energy/PRL/Noleen) and Bryce Stewart (BarrettHeritageRacing.com) for making their first 450SX mains of the year. Cade Clason (K1 Speed, BWR Engines) made his second-straight main.

450SX Class​

Lap Rank Finish Best Lap In Lap Avg Lap Time Rider
1 1 01:02.548 3 01:03.592 Ken Roczen
2 3 01:02.602 4 01:04.148 Eli Tomac
3 2 01:02.727 9 01:03.575 Ryan Dungey
4 4 01:03.219 4 01:04.382 Jason Anderson
5 9 01:03.367 5 01:05.334 Marvin Musquin
6 8 01:03.456 3 01:05.309 Cole Seely
7 7 01:03.573 5 01:04.815 Justin Brayton
8 5 01:03.595 2 01:04.698 Davi Millsaps
9 6 01:03.669 3 01:04.734 Chad Reed
10 10 01:04.325 5 01:05.985 Will Hahn
11 11 01:04.491 4 01:06.242 Weston Peick
12 12 01:04.687 4 01:06.605 Mike Alessi
13 15 01:04.691 4 01:08.120 Tommy Hahn
14 13 01:05.029 8 01:06.758 Christophe Pourcel
15 17 01:05.281 4 01:07.134 Phil Nicoletti
16 14 01:05.639 18 01:06.866 Jake Weimer
17 16 01:05.748 5 01:09.198 Lawson Bopping
18 18 01:06.715 5 01:09.390 Vince Friese
19 19 01:07.953 4 01:10.803 Nick Schmidt
20 21 01:08.409 2 01:13.478 Alex Ray
21 20 01:08.543 5 01:13.032 Cade Clason
22 22 01:10.628 2 01:18.472 Bryce Stewart

No huge surprises when you look at these 450 fast laps, as they reflect the race results pretty closely. But when we dig into the individual lap and segmented times through the race, there’s a lot to learn.

For example, after the race, both Eli Tomac and Marvin Musquin told us they lost some steam in the second half of the race. Tomac said he got tight, Musquin said some mistakes in the whoops and a big battle with Chad Reed and Cole Seely knocked him off of his rhythm. The lap times prove it. From lap 2-9, Tomac stayed in the 1:02s for all but one lap, and the only time he missed, on lap seven, he posted a 1:03.1. Then he logged a 1:03.2 on lap 10, and never got into the 1:02s again for the rest of the race. By lap 13 Tomac was into the 1:04s, then hit 1:05 on lap 16 and 1:06 on lap 18.

In contrast, Roczen ran in the 1:03 range every single lap from 6-17. He only went into the 1:04s for laps 18 and 19, then cruised to a 1:06 on the final lap. Then there’s Ryan Dungey, who was 1:03 or better on every single lap of the main save for a 1:04.025 on lap 13, and a 1:06 on the final lap. These dudes are strong!

Musquin got a bad start, but charged up to sixth at one point. Then it started falling apart. On lap nine he ran a 1:03.4. On lap 10 he ran 1:05.0, then bounced around the 1:04s until hitting 1:07 on lap 14. He got tagged by Cole Seely on lap 15 and went down, causing him to hit 1:10.

Now lets have a look at the segment times. Here’s the track map. S1 is segment 1, S2 segment two, S3 is segment three. Segment two was the key this week, because it holds that gnarly whoop section.

We always hear about the advantages of a good start, and this data offers mind-blowing proof.  With a clear track on lap one,  Roczen ripped through segment two, posting the fastest time all night with a 25.488. Davi Millsaps also had a good start and a clear track and got through that segment on lap one in 26.332. Everyone else on that lap was 27 or higher, and some riders in the back of the pack took over 30 seconds to get through that segment on the first lap. That’s SIX SECONDS slower than Roczen in one lap on one section of the track. Ryan Dungey is certainly no slouch in whoops, but as a by product of starting mid pack, his time in segment two on lap one was 28.5. That’s over three seconds slower than Roczen. Roczen’s final margin of victory over Dungey was 4.5 seconds.

After getting clear of the mess on lap one, from laps 2-19, Dungey never ran slower than 26.7 in that segment. He backed it down to a 28 on the last lap. As a comparison, Tomac went over the 26.7 in that section five times during laps 2-19. That made a huge difference in the battle for second.

After the race, Roczen told us he felt too conservative through the whoops, and that Dungey was gaining on him there. A look at the segment times shows that he actually more than held his own.
After the race, Roczen told us he felt too conservative through the whoops, and that Dungey was gaining on him there. A look at the segment times shows that he actually more than held his own. Cudby

Let’s check out the times through segment two, with the whoops, for four riders: the podium boys, and Musquin, who admitted the whoops were not good for him. The differences in that section alone can be startling.

​Segment 2 

Lap Ken Roczen Ryan Dungey Elic Tomac Marvin Musquin
1 25.488 28.514 27.557 29.119
2 25.985 26.413 25.779 27.234
3 25.718 25.873 26.48 26.333
4 26.358 26.127 25.516 26.193
5 25.804 26.519 25.56 26.217
6 25.786 26.868 25.541 26.216
7 25.918 26.058 25.853 26.403
8 26.055 26.252 25.838 27.269
9 26.049 25.999 25.873 26.177
10 25.721 26.417 26.054 27.069
11 25.706 26.13 26.328 26.975
12 25.856 26.144 26.553 26.406
13 26.178 26.64 26.834 27.178
14 26.346 25.929 26.288 29.539
15 25.988 25.939 26.997 32.129
16 26.234 26.75 27.965 27.753
17 26.348 26.496 26.795 26.919
18 26.552 26.438 27.514 27.22
19 26.536 26.523 27.874 27.67
20 27.566 28.058 28.455 28.171

Now onto the 250 lap times.

250SX Class

Lap Rank Finish Best Lap In Lap Avg Lap Time Rider
1 2 01:03.650 3 01:04.768 Cooper Webb
2 3 01:04.196 3 01:05.312 Joey Savatgy
3 1 01:04.207 4 01:04.800 Christian Craig
4 5 01:04.520 5 01:05.806 Colt Nichols
5 4 01:04.660 2 01:05.917 Mitchell Oldenburg
6 9 01:04.687 2 01:07.689 Jimmy Decotis
7 6 01:05.048 5 01:06.462 Chris Alldredge
8 7 01:05.193 6 01:06.360 Alex Martin
9 8 01:05.365 6 01:06.169 Kyle Cunningham
10 10 01:06.083 5 01:07.669 Kyle Peters
11 13 01:06.235 5 01:08.292 Cole Thompson
12 14 01:06.269 3 01:07.876 Fredrik Noren
13 12 01:06.345 4 01:08.107 Cole Martinez
14 11 01:06.441 6 01:07.591 Michael Leib
15 15 01:06.547 5 01:07.795 Hayden Mellross
16 16 01:07.656 7 01:09.707 Scott Champion
17 17 01:07.949 5 01:09.625 Trevor Reis
18 19 01:08.188 2 01:11.630 Chase Marquier
19 18 01:08.556 3 01:10.640 Noah Mcconahy
20 21 01:08.696 3 01:12.130 Austin Politelli
21 20 01:08.747 4 01:13.527 Chris Howell
22 22 N/A N/A N/A Zach Osborne

No big surprises here, as the lap chart is pretty darned close to the final result. Cooper Webb still has the edge on speed, but a crash cost him

250 Notes

Another Kawasaki rider had reason to be happy after his main. Chris Alldredge took sixth, which betters his previous season best by four spots. “My day was pretty good,” said Alldredge in a team statement. “I had the track dialed early in the first practice which I’ve been struggling with a bit. I didn’t have the start I wanted in my heat but I worked my way up into third which I was really happy with, especially because I ran some good lap times, much faster than I was in practice. I finally got the start I wanted in the Main Event, unfortunately a couple guys got by me but I kept it together for sixth. Sixth is a lot closer to where I should be, and I’m going to keep working hard, and keep getting better.”

 On the not so good side comes Zach Osborne. The 250SX West title contender got caught in a massive crash in the second turn after the start of the main event, hurt his arm, and was unable to get back onto the race. At the track, the Rockstar Energy Husqvarna team feared Wacko Zacho had broken his arm, but we texted Zach yesterday and he confirmed that he’s checked out with a (relatively) clean bill of health, and will be okay to race this weekend in San Diego. The only problem is Osborne went from four points out of the points lead to 24. So it still kind of hurts.

Ride365.com's Kyle Peters was tenth. He's been in the top ten in every race this year.
Ride365.com's Kyle Peters was tenth. He's been in the top ten in every race this year. Cudby

Nice to see some consistency out of Troy Lee Designs/Red Bull/GoPro KTM’s Mitch Oldenburg, who was starting to garner the nickname “fantasy killer” for going really, really fast, but then crashing to the back of the results chart. The goal of late has been to calm down, and it has paid off with back-to-back fourths in 250SX West. “I’m really happy that we’ve been able to put together a few good weekends,” said Oldenburg in a team statement. “We have a few races before the break to get up on the podium where I think we have the speed to be. I’ve always liked San Diego so we’ll see if we can make it happen.”

Looked like it might be a good night from GEICO Honda’s Jordon Smith, who was leading his heat race until the last lap. Then he had a huge endo in the whoops. “Day started out pretty good, I think it was my best qualifying of the year with sixth, and all the times were pretty close so I felt good about that,” said Smith in a team statement. “Got a good start in the heat race and made a few passes, found myself in the lead. That was the best I’d felt all year, and then on the last lap I had a really unfortunate crash in the whoops. They were really big and tough this week. That put me out for the rest of the night. It’s a bummer but we’ll be back.”

Smith’s teammate Jimmy Decotis also got to do some leading by nailing the holeshot in the main event, but was feeling ill and couldn’t hold up to the lead pace. “In the main I got the holeshot and rode the first couple of laps great, then it went downhill,” Decotis said. “I’ve been sick for the past three weeks and can’t seem to kick it. Ended up finishing ninth which I’m not happy about. Hoping I can get this sickness out of my system and get on the podium soon.”

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