Between the Motos: Carey Hart
Wednesday, October 24, 2012 | 11:10 AMCarey Hart's Hart and Huntington Team, once known more for smoke machines and dancing girls in the pits than for race results, is completing its transformation into a formidable force on the track. For 2013, Ricky Carmichael has signed on as a partner with Hart, with the new effort christened RCH Racing. On Saturday at the Monster Energy Cup, we chatted with Hart about the new evolution of his team.
Racer X: As even Ricky [Carmichael] said, it seemed like in the beginning, no one knew what to make of this team. Was this a marketing thing? Was it a freestyle team having some fun? Now, it’s obvious. This is a serious race team that wants to win. That’s pressure.
Carey Hart: It’s pressure that I appreciate and I want to take on. When I got into this thing, I had a passion. I was always a racer at heart, that’s what my background was and I wanted to get back into the sport and get involved with the sport. So, yeah, in the beginning, it was marketing. There were a lot of smoke and mirrors. There was a lot of smoke from the smoke machine and all the rest of it! But you’ve got to crawl before you can walk. I feel that, over the course of the last five years, we’ve made leaps and bounds each year. Honestly, I personally feel like we’d kind of hit the ceiling at what myself and Kenny [Watson] can do. When Ricky came along, it was just great timing and it’s just the relationships that we all have together. We all have the same motivation and to be able to have that piece—that is just like the final piece to the puzzle, I feel like, structurally, we are ready to go start chasing the box and, eventually, even a championship.

Hart has joined forces with RC to form RCH Racing.
Simon Cudby photo
Ricky talked about the different demographics that you guys have. So, it’s odd that you guys are actually friends and you’ve known each other for a while. This is not as strange a pairing as some people may think.
I’ve known Ricky, as he was saying, since ’98 when I was in a broke down van with two beat up bikes in the back, trying to go race supercross and the nationals. Through the relationship with Fox, we always crossed paths. He’s just a great guy. I don’t know, it’s pretty hard to explain it. I feel like I’m a pretty humble dude and Ricky is, too. We’re into this for the same reasons. We’re into this because we love racing. We want to provide racers with jobs. We want to provide racers with rides. Unfortunately, in this economy, it seems like teams are going away. We just want to grow this thing and we’re competitive as hell. We want to go win races.
We talk about marketing a lot, even with all the sponsors you do have. Do you feel like you take a different approach with your team than other teams do? And then, does that sort of allow you to get these sponsorships? What is the secret?
Well, I can’t give you my secret! [Laughs] I mean, if I give you my secret than everyone’s going to use it. I personally feel, the way I kind of came into supercross is this is a business. First and foremost, this is a business and this business is to sell Dodge cars, Suzuki motorcycles, hotel rooms at Sycuan and t-shirts. I never strayed away from that and, whether you love me or hate me for it, that was the number one priority. Now, thankfully, with the support of Suzuki and the level of riders that we have now, it’s a priority to go do as good as we can, win races and to keep marketing. So, I guess that’s kind of my formula.
It started as a business first, whereas most teams start looking for results first, business later.
I just wasn’t in a situation for it not to be business first, you know what I mean? Aside from what people may think, because of my wife, I’m not a crazy, money to burn kind of guy. I had to come into this thing and run it like a business with budgets and profits and losses. To go in and have a catastrophic loss, it would have pushed me out of it. I got into this for the long haul. I wasn’t trying to come out and impress too early and have goals and expectations. I knew this was going to be a growing process and that’s what we’ve been doing.
Talk about Broc Tickle. How did he become “the guy”?
Broc is just a great guy. I meet Broc a couple of times over the last couple of years. I just like his style so much. He’s a worker. I check in on the social media and, on a Sunday night, he’s in the gym. It’s not about the cool factor for him. I think the kid’s got a great image. I think he’s got a lot to really show to people and he’s got the raw talent. Mitch Payton has obviously done an amazing job with him, training him into a champion and getting him to make that transformation from the 250 to the 450 and I think now we’re here to kind of help push him in that direction. This isn’t a pressure situation. I think we have all the right resources for him. I think we’re giving him an opportunity to where he has all the structure and all the equipment and all the confidence to go out and try to get on the box.

The new bikes were on display this past weekend at the Monster Energy Cup.
Simon Cudby photo
Obviously Broc’s a great rider. He can do great things. But is there potential to go even bigger, have even bigger, higher salary names?
When we got into this thing, when Ricky and me started this thing, we know how important ’13 is, but we have our sights set on ’14 and ’15. And that’s all I can really say. But, with that being said, we have a two-year deal with Broc and I want it to be much more than a two-year deal. With the way that kid works and his outlook on the sport, I know he’s going to be here for a long time.
No second rider has been announced yet, but you will have somebody for supercross.
We will have a second rider. We were trying to get things figured out here for Monster Cup. It just didn’t align right, but we should have our second guy locked in here in the next week to two weeks.
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WOW.......I think anyone getting a chance to be involved with RC on a team level is a huge opportunity.. These guys should be able to raise alot of working capital to run a really strong team. RC will take care of the rider development no doubt....
Question is.....who will be the second rider? Does Rattray have a contract with anyone?
second rider should either be ratttray or mettty. or maybe rattray is going to go with munnn ktm's
Better idea or just a dream? Get RC on a treadmill for the next couple of months and put him on the second bike.....he looked pretty solid in practice at the MEC even in his current shape. Bet he could run top 5 all season and the sponsors would eat it up!
2nd rider .......Tedesco !
I agree, IT9 for the second Rider and get Hill back in there if they can.
Tedesco might be riding for Mitch again next year. I saw some photos of him riding a Pro Circuit 250 last week. Maybe Mitch is just letting him use his bike from the nationals to practice until he gets a ride?
They should call CP, I bet his riding style would work awesome with the suz and he is a proven champ eager to race sx again
Anyone that wastes money on IT9 is a fool, the guy has lost it...end of story. Sitting out with a hurt finger when you do not even make the box puts a bad taste in a lot of peoples mouths. Not worth the money.
I know Hart's been around for awhile, but it's strange to hear him refer to anyone as "the kid"....
diggin' Ripdowns idea!!! RC except no longer with his trademark "4"
Maybe Bubba should join RC & Carey Hart, great deal for both parties, for the first time James will have respect for his bosses, so maybe he will be more focused on racing, and RCH will have a top rider and will be the first Suzuki team (but I know that Bubba should quit RedBull first and maybe other sponsors)
I have to agree with pizzaman and i NEVER agree with pizzaman. There are some young guys who deserve a good look and with RC's help , some could do the work..should be a GREAT team...Tickle will meet RC's mom and will have to pick up the pace in a hurry.....
PS SUZUKI's...excellent choice.
got my sights on hansen! herd hes been ridin around on a suzuki lately!!
Tim Moto Team!!!!
NO WAY IN HELL would RC and Carey be associated with that worthless Stewart he wouldnt last a week Training and staying on track like RC wants..
He wwould go home cryikng like a little girl..
Its gonna be Josh Hill
Are they still gonna be Supercross only?
Rattray and Metcalfe seem to be the big names that have been under the radar lately. Both are capable of running in the top ten in Supercross and top five outdoors.
james stewart trust me will be on that team rc is all about winning if you know js is just T,O Chad johnson go where he want beside js has sign with anyone maybe i right or wrong i would be shock if they pull if off but js well be strong 2013 hopefully
@wheels46, you maybe right but this is exactly what Bubba need, ultra motivation, RC is the man for that, and Carey Hart seems bored to not have top results, everyone will win with that shock association, Bubba, RC, Hart, Suzuki, sponsors, media, and fans, and with Tim Ferry as team manager and Pourcel as second rider :), that team would make the buz in 2013! RCH !!!
TEDESCO gets the spot. He is RC's best friend rider and he needs a ride simple. RC wants a rider he can get along with. JS7 would never be on tha RCH team. REd Bull forever plus he is so paid. secondly JS pride is on the line. One more yr and JS is done. You know he will not race for second so 2013 is his last yr and so is Chad. Atleast Reedy has a plan and team to run. Js7 will have to be mookie's trainer for a job LOL
Many teams tend to have a rider that has potential, and ideally, someone who can win right away. Tickle is not a current winner, yet. The thing is that the RCH team needs to put the sponsors in the spotlight. Hate to say it.....but JS7 would do exactly that. CP might. Both are iffy...but would bring the potential for winning right out of the box, and air time for the sponsors. You gotta pay for the racing, and I imagine that it is difficult to sell two "developing" riders to sponsors. Like him or not, JS7 is a magnet for attention. Yes, this is racing, but it's also about business.
At the local level this racing can be about simply racing (and winning one might hope), but at the national level it is also about selling products.
And the last point, does anyone think that RC or CH is wanting to be in the top 10 all season? At this level they want to be on top.......And I can't imagine the RCH team does not know the route.
Carey Hart has done a great job establishing what appears to be an econonmical sustainable race team. Good for them to seal the deal with Suzuki and Ricky.
doesnt even matter what anyone does.the sports just about done. 9000$ bikes,1000$ pipes? only(few)guys with new bikes at my track are vets! very few kids coming in,way to expensive for the average parent to get into. note to mfgs new young people grow the sport! not old vets!
Carey is an awesome guy, and him teaming with RC is gonna make one awesome team and having broc tickle on the team, this team is gonna rocket to the top hahaha CAN'T WAIT TO FIND OUT WHO THE SECOND RIDER IS :)