40 Day Countdown To AMA Motocross Opener: 2005
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PrintBy now, you know it’s coming. The 40th season for the American Motocross tour is coming, with the Lucas Oil AMA Pro Motocross Championship rolling into Hangtown next weekend. Be there, or be at whatever race is closest to you. Or watch on FUEL, SPEED and NBC. It’s going to be good. Check out the revamped facebook page facebook.com/AmericanMotocross or visit www.allisports.com to follow the series. In the meantime, we roll through our 40 years in 40 days countdown with the year 2005.
James Stewart and Ricky Carmichael finally got to race each other in 2005.
Photo: Simon Cudby
This one had been brewing for basically a lifetime. Ricky Carmichael and James Stewart were just far enough apart in age to where they had never raced against each other at any level. Instead, they broke each other’s records. When Carmichael was finished racing the AMA Amateur National at Loretta Lynn Ranch, he held the all-time record for amateur titles. Then Stewart broke that record. When Carmichael was finished racing the 125 class as a pro, he held the all-time record for 125 National Motocross victories. Until Stewart broke that record. And the entire 2004 season served as a massive set up, with Carmichael winning 24 out of 24 motos in the 250 class, and Stewart winning 23 out of 24 in the 125s.
Finally, in 2005, they would meet in the 250 class. This was a clash of titans.
The battle should have begun in supercross, but Stewart crashed and broke his arm in the second race of the season, leaving Carmichael and Chad Reed to battle for the championship, with Carmichael coming out on top (Carmichael’s AMA Supercross Championship was the first for Suzuki since Mark Barnett collected that title over twenty years earlier). Stewart did return late in the supercross season to collect a few wins. Outdoors, though, Carmichael would be armed with Suzuki’s brand-new RM-Z450, while Stewart would still ride a KX250 two-stroke.
The Carmichael/Stewart battle never really materialized with Carmichael outpowering Stewart throughout the sesaon.
Photo: Rob Tringali
Unfortunately, the outdoor battle never materialized. Carmichael waxed everyone at the opener at Hangtown, while Stewart struggled and eventually pulled out of the second moto with an illness. Stewart was on his game at High Point. He passed Carmichael in the first moto and began pulling away slightly. Before long, Carmichael latched onto Stewart’s pace and hung there. He retook the lead in spectacular fashion, jumping over Stewart’s head on a tabletop, and pulling away from there. Stewart then pulled out of action again at Southwick. At Budds Creek, Stewart was asked what it would take to beat Carmichael, and he said, “A 450.” But Kawasaki didn’t have one. So Stewart tried to soldier on, often getting booed by the same fans that had cheered him wildly while he was winning everything in sight on a 125. It was a strange year.
Carmichael kept on winning. He crashed in the first moto at Southwick, allowing Reed to take the first 250-class moto win of his career. Beyond that, he was pretty much aces, going as fast on a Suzuki as he had on a Honda. Then came Unadilla. Carmichael fell, and Stewart took the lead. Carmichael was charging, and late in the race began to close in. This was the showdown everyone wanted to see. Carmichael got inside and made the pass, but Stewart tried to cross back underneath. But Carmichael didn’t drift wide, so when Stewart hit a jump, he came down right on top of Carmichael’s back, sending them both the ground. Kevin Windham inherited the moto win, Stewart was knocked out, and Carmichael picked himself up to come back in moto two and win the overall. For Stewart, Unadilla was rock bottom.
Stewart landed on Carmichael at Unadilla. Their expected showdown had more downs than ups.
Photo: Tom Ferriter
No doubts for the rest of the year: RC was still the best in the business outdoors. But what about Stewart’s vacated throne in the 125s?
Well, the ’05 125 class produced one of the closest and most dramatic battles you’ll ever see (which is the same thing we wrote about ’89, ’92, ’95, ’00, ’01 and ’03). With Stewart out, the class was stacked with contenders. In the first moto of the season, though, Suzuki’s Broc Hepler put on a clinic, working his way into the lead and taking the win. Hepler finished second to Stewart in points during the previous season. Perhaps the sophomore was the best in the class? Well, he tipped over in moto two and threw away the overall. Up front, KTM’s Mike Alessi led the way in his debut race in his first pro season. Looked like Mike had the moto won until Monster Energy Pro Circuit Kawasaki’s Grant Langston made a heroic run on the last lap and made up huge ground. In the last turn, Langston went to the inside of Alessi and smashed into him. Alessi crashed and Langston stole the moto win, but also broke his ankle in the collision.
Langston would try to race through the pain each week, but his results were sporadic. Other contenders would win races here and there, but an unlikely points leader emerged: 2001 125 Champion Mike Brown. Brown was supposed to race in Europe for the ’05 season, but his deal collapsed, so he put together his own privateer Honda effort in the U.S. and found himself leading the points by mid season. Brown was looking to become the first privateer to ever win an AMA National Motocross Championship, but for some reason, he began to falter at mid season. Conspiracy theorists say that Pro Circuit, who was building Brown’s engines, was purposely giving him bad stuff to help their own team riders catch him in points. Others said Brown was cracking under pressure. Whatever the reason, he faded out of contention.
Ivan Tedesco proved the most consistent in a wild 125 tour, and he landed the title.
Photo: Simon Cudby
This left Alessi in the points lead. Hepler finally figured it all out and won some races, as did Honda’s Andrew Short, and even Langston got a win, injury and all, at Red Bud. But the most consistent contender was Monster Energy Pro Circuit Kawasaki’s Ivan Tedesco, who won in Colorado (the Thunder Valley national replaced Troy, Ohio on the schedule) and soon had the points lead. Heading into the finale, it looked like Tedesco had the crown pretty much wrapped, but he derailed a chain in the first moto and lost a ton of points. Alessi had a shot heading into he final moto of the season.
Then Alessi did something crazy. He took Tedesco out and stood on his bike so Tedesco couldn’t get back on. Alessi even reached for Tedesco’s kill switch to try to turn his bike off! It was an amazing series of events, both riders finished way back, and Alessi didn’t make up enough ground to win the title. At the end of the season, the AMA stripped Alessi of his Glen Helen points, which moved Andrew Short up to second for the year. Alessi was also stripped of his AMA Rookie of the Year award. It instead went to Estonia’s Juss Laansoo. Remember him?
Mike Alessi made his full-season pro debut in 2005, riding a 250F for KTM. He nearly won the title, but his season was marred by controversy.
Photo: Simon Cudby
Tedesco was considered a supercross specialist when the year began, but he had proven his outdoor chops during this wild season, and claimed the championship. Brown was originally scheduled to race the Motocross des Nations, but the team pulled him off in favor of Tedesco. He teamed with Carmichael and Windham, and the boys pulled through, winning the MXdN for the first time since 2000. Team USA had gone through quite a few starts and stops in MXdN effort since their massive win streak had ended in 1994, but this 2005 win was the catalyst of a new level of effort. At that time, finding the funding to race the event was difficult, so MX Sports, producers of the Loretta Lynn event (and sister company to this site) sponsored the team and picked up the tab. With the win came more interest, and the U.S. has sent a strong team (and won the event) ever since.
Once again the season ended with no doubt that Carmichael was the greatest motocross rider in the world. Would things change if Stewart got a crack at him on a 450?
With sponsorship from MX Sports and the Loretta Lynn's AMA Amateur National, Team USA returned to the Motocross des Nations. Carmichael led to squad to victory.
Photo: SImon Cudby
2005 NATIONAL MOTOCROSS CHAMPIONSHIP
2005 250cc National Motocross
Date Location Winner Machine
May 22 Sacramento, CA Ricky Carmichael, Havana, FL Suzuki
May 29 Mt. Morris, PA Ricky Carmichael, Havana, FL Suzuki
June 12 Southwick, MA Ricky Carmichael, Havana, FL Suzuki
June 19 Budds Creek, MD Ricky Carmichael, Havana, FL Suzuki
July 3 Buchanan, MI Ricky Carmichael, Havana, FL Suzuki
July 17 New Berlin, NY Ricky Carmichael, Havana, FL Suzuki
July 24 Lakewood, CO Ricky Carmichael, Havana, FL Suzuki
July 31 Washougal, WA Ricky Carmichael, Havana, FL Suzuki
August 14 Millville, MN Ricky Carmichael, Havana, FL Suzuki
August 21 Binghamton, NY Ricky Carmichael, Havana, FL Suzuki
September 4 Delmont, PA Ricky Carmichael, Havana, FL Suzuki
September 11 San Bernardino, CA Ricky Carmichael, Havana, FL Suzuki
Ryan Villopoto made his pro debut after Loretta's. He struggled at first, but then finished on the podium at Glen Helen. A sign of things to come?
Photo: Matt Ware
2005 250cc National Point Standings
Pos. Name, hometown Machine Pts.
1 Ricky Carmichael, Havana, FL Suzuki 594
2 Kevin Windham, Centreville, MS Honda 4853 Ernesto Fonseca, Murrieta, CA Honda 392
4 David Vuillemin, Corona, CA Yamaha 390
5 Travis Preston, Hesperia, CA Honda 308
6 Michael Byrne, Murrieta, CA Kawasaki 294
7 John Dowd, Ludlow, MA Suzuki 273
8 Chad Reed, Dade City, FL Yamaha 258
9 Nicholas Wey, Dewitt, MI Honda 233
10 Jeff Dement, Kingwood, TX Suzuki 152
Yamaha busted out yellow plastic and graphics at Unadilla to celebrate their 50th anniversary. Here's David Vuillemin doing his best Bob Hannah.
2005 125cc National Motocross
Date Location Winner Machine
May 22 Sacramento, CA Grant Langston, Murrieta, CA Kawasaki
May 29 Mt. Morris, PA Mike Alessi, Apple Valley, CA KTM
June 12 Southwick, MA Grant Langston, Murrieta, CA Kawasaki
June 19 Budds Creek, MD Michael Brown, Johnson City, TN Honda
July 3 Buchanan, MI Grant Langston, Murrieta, CA Kawasaki
July 17 New Berlin, NY Broc Hepler, Kittanning, PA Suzuki
July 24 Lakewood, CO Ivan Tedesco, Murrieta, CA Kawasaki
July 31 Washougal, WA Ivan Tedesco, Murrieta, CA Kawasaki
August 14 Millville, MN Andrew Short, Murrieta, CA Honda
August 21 Binghamton, NY Mike Alessi, Apple Valley, CA KTM
September 4 Delmont, PA Broc Hepler, Kittanning, PA Suzuki
September 11 San Bernardino, CA Grant Langston, Murrieta, CA Kawasaki
2005 125cc National Point Standings
Pos. Name, hometown Machine Pts.
1 Ivan Tedesco, Murrieta, CA Kawasaki 412
2 Andrew Short, Murrieta, CA Honda 376
3 Mike Alessi, Apple Valley, CA KTM 367
4 Grant Langston, Murrieta, CA Kawasaki 366
5 Michael Brown, Johnson City, TN Honda 336
6 Broc Hepler, Kittanning, PA Suzuki 321
7 Joshua Grant, Riverside, CA Honda 302
8 David Millsaps, Cairo, GA Suzuki 268
9 Matt Walker, McDonough, GA Kawasaki 240
10 Danny Smith, Middleton, ID Yamaha 196
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That pic of Carmichael at the des Nations is awesome!
""Stewart tried to cross back underneath. But Carmichael didn’t drift wide, so when Stewart hit a jump, he came down right on top of Carmichael’s back""
Here we go with the Media making excuses for Stewarts take out crash fests....That’s bull and you know it RacerX, That spot in the track is over 50' wide.
Here is how it went and I was there....... Carmichael was catching Stewart quickly... Stewart had no answer for Carmichaels speed, Carmichael made the pass with ease and was going to pull away.... Stewart did the only thing he could do in desperate times.... land on him and try to take him out, but he took himself out too, " A good thing " This kind of desperate, dangerous, irresponsible riding would continue in his carrier to this very day…………… FACT !!!!!!
I, for one, am surprised, and find it utterly amazing, that Stewart landed on another rider's - Carmichael's - back.
It seems so out of character for Stewart. I guess these once-in-a-lifetime events happen, even to someone like Stewart! Certainly he felt enough guilt and remorse that he vowed never to let that happen again.
Yeah right jairtime. Stewart vowed to never do that again. Until he took out Reed in Dallas! C'mon. Read the writing on the wall. The competition has caught up to Stewart and the only answer he has is to try and take them out. I can't wait til he retires and does something, anything, else. Watch and see the crash o rama he will have in the nationals. Wait and see
Can somebody provide detail on the relationship between the picture of the GOAT crash sequence where he is wearing red-white and the big picture were lil'Stew the wrecking ball took the GOAT and the GOAT is wearing yellow-black.
The picture of lil'Stew taking a snuz after taking out the GOAT is priceless.
And of course the GOAT handled the situation with class.
Are you on drugs? Stewart takes people out because he rides over his head not on purpose. Look at all the wrecks from 2011 sup. Taking people out is a double edged sword.
I guess the relationship between those pics with different gear is that those crashes lead to the only 2 motos RC lost that year?
Another indication of the difference between the GOAT and lil'Stew is:
In 2003 when the GOAT was on a 250 and his main competitors were on 450, the made no excuses, just used his head and superior skills and fitness to continue is domination only losing to KW on tracks that clearly favored KW and the 450.
In 2005 with the GOAT on new team, with the recorded, and a new untested bike, the GOAT made no excuses and just used his head and superior skills and fitness to continue his domination.
In 2005 lil'Stew whines he needs a 450 and he can beat the GOAT. We shall see if the lil'Stew, the wrecking ball, is able to back up is mouth in the next installment for 2006.
But don't worry stewtards, the GOAT is going to retire and your boy is going to have his chance to dominate and have a perfect session gifted him.
白龙 .. why waste your time comparing RC vs JS? The record books speaks for themselves.. RC is the very best in outdoors... That's a no brainer..
In 06' & 07', RC was still the better rider... Simple fact, no one touched RC in the outdoors.
Todd B... It was sarcastic what jairtime meant...Ha,ha... JS is a bit of a dumb ass when it comes to making strategic decisions in a race.
MA's season ended in controversy? How about embarresment and shame!
That is a massive amount of people at the MXDN.
After Stewart landed on RC- Ricky, what the heck happened out there? RC's reply, " You will have to ask #259". He couldn't have said any better.
RC's 3rd perfect overall season. Absolutely amazing. When RC was on a 250, the only 450 he lost to was Windham. When Stewart was on a 250, the 450s he lost to were Windham, Reed, Ferry, etc, and of course RC. He used that 250 as the excuse as to why he couldn't beat RC though and came back strong in 06 to win I think a dazzling 3 overalls against RC (sarcasm alert), all in which RC fell and RC was consistently the fastest guy. James' career is full of excuses for not winning. RC's is full of giving the other guy credit when he loses. Could you imagine what James would have said if the roles were reversed at Unadilla that year?
I can still remember that tv interview before the season started and JS said his 250 would be fine and that he looked forward to setting records in the 450 class. Then at hangtown his KX screaming in practice the crowd going wild as he slid from turn to turn and me checking my stop watch to see RC was 3 seconds a lap faster. He tore out the banners in one corner and the course worker gave them to me but I threw them away 2 years later. He did win in 2006 with a 1-2 but RC beat him by half a lap in the mud in second moto. But that was a great ride because in the mud RC lapped the entire field once, including JS.
I was there that day when Stewart landed on Carmichael and what the cameras dont show is that on the next lap Carmichael came through a corner that bordered that Take out spot were Stupid Stew was sitting and Carmichael give him the " I'm number one sign" and roosted Stewart LOL
That move could have put the Goat in a wheel chair the rest of his life, Stewart is Dangerously out of control when he has competition, someone will be seriously hurt from this kids disregard of anyone’s well being and safety. Why is everyone in the media afraid to speak out about this, If this was any other rider with his track record, they would have been black balled from the sport by now….. does it have to take a very serious injury to make it happen ?? I hope not……..
Haha! How funny are the Stewart fans on here! Stewarts desperate, ridiculous take out moves are constant thing! Things like: "uncharecteristic" and so on, is just utter crap! Whenever he's unable to beat someone or keep up with them he just takes em out, and in many cases himself too.. Take the whole Stewart/ Reed crashes this year. Reed was the better rider in both of those crashes. Just cs he was faster than stewart and james didnt like it he simply wiped him out. I was at Hangton in 05 and stewarts display was just pathetic. Pretty much sums up his career since then. He couldnt beat RC- the real "Fastest man on the planet" and now he's getting whooped by everyone else..
Carmichael won and lost with mad respect to his competitors, always giving credit to everyone and NEVER disrespecting or talking trash about other riders or saying how great he was. NEVER having excuses even when he had real health problems through out his entire career : he had a bad intestinal problem:
When Carmichael retired and Stewart started winning I remember an interview were Stewart said if Carmichael was there he would now beat him easily …. What a little trash talking disrespectful punk ..I also cant believe Stewart says on camera during the SX season this year “ Im the best guy out there “ what a douche bag . Well guess you weren’t the best guy out there were you Stewart…….Mr. 4th place run your mouth some more……
Would the 2005 season be considered a perfect series for RC4? He won all 12 races.
sunday 5/15 6PM PDT, RV2, RC, and Gary Jones on Wind Tunnel.
@Didierlotsyeng,
"why waste your time comparing RC vs JS?"
Because this is an article about the history of MX and mostly focusing on GOAT and lil'Stew. A better question is why lil'Stew get so much coverage in the article when he was non-factor in the championship, finished outside the top 10, never won a race. Except for almost destroying the GOATS career he achieved nothing.
Note that even Reed won a moto and finished ahead of lil'Stew. So that was another season where Reed beat lil'Stew.
@Didierlotsyeng,
"why waste your time comparing RC vs JS?"
A more interesting and important question why were lil'Stew fantards always talking about "hate", "racism", "rednecks", "KKK", "neo-nazi", "inbreds", etc during the 2011 SX session when SX/MX fans pointed out the facts that lil'Stew crashed a lot, took other rides out, got special treatment, etc?
Why all the name calling?
Hey BadMedia:
I was at that race at Unadilla as well, in fact prmxracer's quote from RC on the podium--I was the guy who did the podium interviews that day, and I was the guy he said that to.
Anyway, watching that race, I'll agree with just about everything you said: James got caught, James got tired, Ricky was faster, Ricky didn't get tired, Ricky was better. However, no chance that James purposely landed on him to win that race. Zero chance. Was he out of control? Maybe? Made a bad move? Maybe. Reckless? Maybe. But he did not say "I'm going to land on Ricky's back with my bike and maybe this was I can win the race." No chance.
I think we all need to separate recklessness with absolute intent to hurt other riders. James has run into and landed on a lot of people, but I don't think he ever WANTED or PLANNED to try to end someone's career.
And why did we focus so much attention on Stewart in this article, even though he didn't win any races? If you were around in 2004 and 2005, there was no story bigger than "Carmichael and Stewart are finally going to race." That was the story at the time, and that's the story we're trying to reflect here.
白龙... Get your point.. Hence the term "fantard", described by aother poster on racer x.
Some fans are just uber fans... And some just do not like stewie (And let's be honest, some can be traced back to his race.. Stupid but true)... Hell, I do not like his personality either... Same as I never liked Nigel Mansell back in the days... Snubbed me when I waited for hrs for an autograph.. yet, I still like watching the guy ride...
And the name calling.. Just ignore it.
As for the special treatment.. Now that's a long, long subject wich I believe has not his place in a forum where the sole purpose is to dedicate to motorcross racing.
Jason, how come whenever you comment on your own articles it is usually to defend James Stewart when the readers comment about him? I've never really seen you defend any other rider on here before but you definitely have showed your bias views on here, one example is like when you said Chad Reeds pass on James Stewart in Atlanta was a blatant take out move and that James Stewart pass on Ryan Villopoto in Toronto was just a racing incident. I'm just saying that you shouldn't just comment when it's time for you to try and defend Stewart because as a journalist, it can look bad and makes you look like you pick favorites all the time.
It's cool that you comment back to the readers but I don't think it should only be done if it's to defend/talk about Stewart.
@BAD MEDIA - your an idiot, Stewart was running that line every lap down that hill.. As if he meant to jump on him !! NFI
Would like to have seen 250 vs 250, that would have been interesting. Personally, I think Carmichael would have gotten his a$$ handed to him if the displacement roles were reversed.
You say Stewart was running that line every lap, so what!!! Well now Carmichael was CLEARLY in it and he still chose to do what ?? There are choices to make, the bike is equipped with brakes and a throttle and the rider with a brain. I have raced that track twice and know the line choices in that spot so your not talking to a dummy here. Stewart wanted to send a message to Carmichael that your not going to go by me that easy and tried to play rough but landed on his back instead “well knowing that this could of happened” but still did it anyway. Please stop trying to justify every move this kid makes, why dont you also justify other riders moves as much as you do Stewarts ?? But that wouldn’t be to often because you wont find other riders making these types of Dangerous moves all through there career if even ever at all. POINT MADE
This was the beginning of the reckless and careless moves that Stewart makes in desperation with no regard of the safety of other riders and would continue to do. History doesnt lie. Stewart is a great rider, Im not here to argue that and I don’t care what color his skin is so lets get that out of the way NOW, since anyone that says anything about him is considered a racist………….
@BAD MEDIA; you're a tool. Weege, thanks for bringing it back to earth.
"Brian wrote:
Would like to have seen 250 vs 250, that would have been interesting. Personally, I think Carmichael would have gotten his a$$ handed to him if the displacement roles were reversed"
Sorry Brian, but I have to disagree. Over the years RC proved that he had singular focus: He was only there to win. And even on "underpowered" equipment the year before he still won almost everything in sight. At that point in his career, I think he could've waxed 3/4 of the field on my sons 2001 CR125.
We were 30' away from the Unadilla crash. Yes, JS was running the same line down that hill, but RC was in it this time. All it would have taken was for James to chop the throttle for a split second & it never would have happened. But never lifting is one of the things that makes JS who he is, right?
We were suprised either of them got up off the ground after that. I thought we just watched the end of 2 great careers. Thank god it didn't work out that way.
I have been saying Stewart will hurt or Kill someone from the time he turned Pro. He would take out lappers his first year in 125 supercross and get them hurt. I know some of the riders he hurt. He is a Jackwagon and needs some Xanax and stay home.
For anyone who was there in 05, the JS/RC hype was huge. After MC and RC's careers, we had come to expect dominance from one guy. But what we really saw that year was that because James has always been so much faster than everyone else (amateurs and 125s), he never really had to learn how to 'race.' For him, it was always a matter of taking some crazy line and going right past people. Unfortunately, six years later, James still hasn't learned how to race in a pack or against tight competition. For all of his amazing skill and talent, I'm surprised he hasn't been able to put the mental aspect together.
Gary Bailey MX School 101 -- Sometimes you have to slow down to go faster.
Stewpot gets way too much coverage and credit for his meager accomplishments.
When his career is finished he will be behind Broc Glover in total championships.
The fastest motorcycle rider in history was Magoo plus he was doing impossible
things on inferior bikes and actually made other riders look bad. Magoo's goal
was to please the crowds as a showman and no one in history even came close
to him in that regard. The absolute best rider in motocross history has to be RC
with Joel Robert in second place. Who is Joel? The dude that could stop and have a beer during the race and still beat Roger D!
The beer thing is pretty cool... wonder what the AMA would think of that one!?!
Patpipes,
That was Hakan Carlqvist (sp?) at Namur with the beer stop. But I'm with you anyway. Robert was an absolute monster on those 5" travel Suzukis.
You guys have got to go back to making posters register...
This was a huge season, we never got to see Bubba and RC go at it until the end of the SX season, and RC was on cruise control at that point. Then we moved The Perfect Storm outside and crossed our fingers. After years and years of RC dominating, it was huge to have a legitimate threat and real competition for the outdoors. People bash on Stewart all the time, but those 2-3 years when he raced RC outdoors left some classic battles I'll never forget.
I can't recall if this was the season that Bubba ragdolled down the hill at High Pt right before the uphill triple, but those yrs at High Point between these two were just awesome. Bubba ran it wide open and was reckless at times, but so was RC early in his career, in fact I recall a time when RC was known for hanging off the back of the bike, feet off the pegs. Making accusations that Stewart was aiming for RC is ridiculous...
Funny, TP was alot like Stewart also...wild, reckless at times, smooth as silk others, fast as hell, crashed alot...everyone gave him crap for not living up to his racing potential, wanting to do freestyle, etc, etc...TP and Stewart are both extremely exciting riders to watch, and phenomenal athletes...I didn't and don't understand the hate for either.
RC is letting rip the biggest fart in that first photo
Sounds like Mike Brown got really F*CKED by everybody that year
RC was waxing everyone again. I remember RC jumping over Stewies head at High Point, that was great. He was the greatest ever. And of course. Stewie was blaming his bike for being slow, but he seemed to beat everybody else on it. Stewie pulled off in Hangtown with illness, andpulled out again at Southwick. How come the guys who ripped Reed for doing that, never ripped on Stewie for pulling off? Oh well, this is a great series of articles, its fun to look back..
T hats right- no mention of that- these articles aren't giving us the whole scoop wtf?
i think that bubba never means too hurt anyone accidents happen all the time why should bubba use a differeant line just because rc is there?