Observations: St. Louis
Wednesday, April 13, 2011 | 10:15 AM
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Ok with that out of the way, I just want to say that I did not go to St Louis for round fourteen oF the AMA Monster Energy Supercross Series, an FIM World Championship. I stayed at home this weekend in Las Vegas, visited with my mom who was down from the winterlands (otherwise known as Canada), hung out with my wife and watched my dogs (Buddy, Hank, Fred and Annie) eat and sleep.
The Edward Jones Dome in St. Louis.
Photo: Andrew Fredrickson
I’m not going to lie, it was a bit bizarre and I definitely felt a little helpless but then I started to think about how little use I actually am at the races. Once I hand my X Brand Goggles off to the riders, my purpose is over. I am there to watch the races, bug the crap out of the racers and teams and generally just cause trouble. Like, if I wasn’t there- the gate still drops and everything.
So I was stuck on Saturday doing what most of you people do, which is follow Twitter and watch the Live Timing screen which may or may not freeze up at any point. I don’t know what was more fun, watching this screen and wondering if it did indeed lock up or wondering exactly what year the head shot of the rider was taken in?
How depressing.
Anyways, with that in mind I thought I would sit down and actually watch the 450 race on CBS on Sunday morning to figure out what happened on Saturday night. The series hasn’t been this great in a number of years and even though I knew the results, watching Ralph Sheheen, Jeff Emig and Erin Bates break it all down for me on CBS was still going to be great.
So now I present to you, a running diary of my Sunday watching the 450 telecast!
(Again, I was not at the race and yet I’m talking about it. For more on if this is proper, please see Dandunes vs Steve Cox from the Pulpmx Show. Actually, never mind. Save yourself the time.)
1:01.39 (Note: This number is the time left on the show. That’s how my DVR works)- Wow! They don’t fool around here and go right into the first heat race which is pretty cool. I believe in TV terms, it’s called “capture the audience” so if you’re some washing machine salesman and you’re flipping through the channels at the top of an hour on a Sunday, you will (hopefully) be grabbed by these flying daredevils on motorcycles. If you don’t have much knowledge of the sport, you’re going to wonder why the guy from Bubba’s World is racing motorcycles and where is the stocky Frenchman that makes you laugh?
Stewart had to have a win in St. Louis to keep his title hopes alive.
Photo: Simon Cudby
1:00:41- This heat has James Stewart, Ryan Villopoto and Chad Reed in it so of course Ivan Tedesco grabs the holeshot followed by Tommy Hahn and Kevin Windham. This makes perfect sense if you’ve been following the series so far. Expected the unexpected!
The first turn is exactly like the one in Toronto where we see a switchback after the first turn and where we saw Mike Alessi and Austin Stroupe just go straight and make a right hand turn onto the next lane. The odds of this happening again are very high.
1:00.01- Two laps in, Tedesco is still leading and that’s cool to see. Ivan’s had a rough year and I’m sure manager Kenny Watson is proud of his little jar of hot sauce (provided it wasn’t too muddy and Kenny chose to go stand in the managers tower). The screen cuts to a picture-in-picture shot of Ivan and then an ad for a new quadruple cheese burger at Burger King- oh wait, that’s my own picture-in-picture. Better turn that off. CBS is actually showing Reed and Stewart fighting it out for seventh early on.
59:33- Oh now, as they are showing the 22 and the 7 battle it out, Reed comes around the turn and runs into buddy and fellow countryman Michael Byrne. Stewart sneaks by and now privateer hero/outside linebacker for the St. Louis Rams Weston Peick is on Reed. I can confidently say that the two Aussies did not plan for this to happen.
57:15- RV and Stewart have a nice little battle going and they both get by Windham who was in second. Actually Windham seems to just let them both by once they get up next to him and if I’m KW, that’s a smart move. He’s not on their pace this year, is the series most popular rider, has 8 million in the bank and is 33 years old. I’d do it too. I also think that leader Ivan Tedesco is going to have his hands full here right away but I’m no Gary Bailey.
Tedesco was able to get out front early in heat 1.
Photo: Garth Milan
56:28- And Stewie gets by Villopoto with a nice move to triple over a tabletop and land on the inside of the Kawasaki rider. Smooth move, no doubt. He’s into second and I’m no Kreskin (or Gary Bailey) but methinks that Tedesco is going to be stuck watching Bubba’s World as it rapidly disappears in front of him real soon.
56:05- And predictably Stewart gets by the very next section but unpredictably, Tedesco gets him right back! Yeah Hot Sauce…good to see but soon after, Stewart gets back by in the whoops. Man, Stewie’s suspension is so stiff, it’s ridiculous. I’m gonna go and push down on it the next time I see mechanic Oscar alone with the bike. Then I will be prepared to be gang tackled by the team.
54:35- Stewart wins the heat! Which isn’t that big of a shocker as he’s won eleven out of fourteen this year. We know he’s fast, we know he can win heat races- it’s the main we want to see. Tedesco completely muffs a rhythm section and RV gets by him but still a nice ride to get third.
53:22- Commercial time! I love the Toyota one with JGR Racing. That Coy Gibbs seems like such a natural in front of the camera, someone please nominate him for an Oscar. Love, love, love the fact (as Jason Weigandt pointed out one time) that JGRMX’s star rider Justin Brayton is so overlooked that he doesn’t get any lines in his own team’s commercial and in fact is cut out of some shots!
50:41- James tells Erin Bates that he needs a win. In other news, I need diet and exercise.
50:04- Here’s something right up my alley, the MMI Tech Tip of the week starring JGRMX’s Jeremy Albrecht. J-Bone talks about how they had a rear brake problem on their bikes and they made a prototype piece to stop the problem from happening again but the problem is, the lighting is so bad, I have no idea what he is showing me. Oh well, Albrecht then mentions that it’s time for some “filthy white trash hookers and fat-ass Jack and cokes”. I might have made that last part up.
This guy is into motocross, trust us.
48:26- Emig tells us about a couple of sections on the track followed up by Bates showing us a rut. Now myself, as a hard-core moto guy, I learned absolutely nothing from what they said or showed but I suppose that the washing machine salesman would have so I’ll let it go. This is a mantra that I repeat to myself plenty of times tonight. Then Ralph throws it to a Masters Golf Tournament promo and says that Jim Nantz, the famed CBS announcer is his “colleague” which is like saying James Stewart and I are both “motorcycle racers”.
47:33- A cool feature of PGA Golfer Ricky Fowler being a fan of supercross which is sweet. He seems like a nice guy and made a bit of news this week when he showed up in the press tent with his hat on backwards (insert GASP here) and was told to put it forward because that’s how it’s done at the Masters. What a rebel…
44:57- Coming back from commercial to some pit shots of Missourians enjoying the pit party at the dome. I agree, always a good time there in the pits. Especially if the fans actually got to go inside the factory Kawasaki truck and get told how crappy of a mechanic they used to be. Good times indeed!
43:19- Just highlights of the other 450 heat and looks like Valli Yamaha’s Austin Stroupe ran up in second behind Ryan Dungey before crashing out in a turn. I imagine Stroupe’s tweets running through his head would be “Go Yes Fun Yum Yum Crash Sad Unicorns”.
42:57- The Dunge takes heat two as Trey Canard comes through the pack to get second, Davi Millsaps ends up third and Stroupe gets fourth.
The Dunge would take the win in heat 2.
Photo: Andrew Fredrickson
42:29- Dungey’s on the podium, I haven’t watched it yet and Erin Bates asks him about his bike changes he made. I’m predicting that he blows through the answer to the question and moves right to the thanking of the team, everyone is working hard and looking forward to the main.
42:12- Yes! Except for the part where he calls the heat the main and missing out on the “everyone is working hard” part, I nail it. I like Ryan, I think he’s a good dude but I’m in the media business to help my readers learn things about the sport and he doesn’t give up much. Hence my frustration.
38:51- Coming back from commercial and the camera pans the crowd. Pretty much everyone shown flips the devil horn with the thumb folded in and the two outside fingers raised up. Doesn’t matter who it is, young kid in Monster T-Shirt, hot MILF in Fox shirt or 40 year old dude in a polo with a hat on that has the brim folded over so much they are almost touching each other- they all throw the devil horns. Very bizarre because when a camera comes on me, I just sit there and look into it waiting for someone to tell me to do something. My very first instinct is definitely NOT “Hey, I should throw the devil horns right now…”
37:20- A little feature on Windham right now explaining how his wife Dottie calls him “Tommy the talker” because he always talks to fans. I can attest to KW and how he is one of the best interviews in the pits, no doubt about it. Then the producers obviously try to stage a moment where KW is talking with his manfriend Dano and as Kevin’s talking, Dano walks away. We all know has to be staged because there is no way that Dano would EVER walk away from Windham as he’s talking.
K-Dub is still one of the more polarizing figures in the sport.
Photo: Garth Milan
32:31-Coming out of commercial, they just replayed all these gnarly crashes from the season which pretty much caused me to really rethink my love for this sport. Man, these guys go out there and make it all look so easy but just the slightest miscalculation and it’s pound ground time. As far as whether the producers should show this stuff, well I’ve gotten some emails about it from fans worried about it but to me, it’s part of the “show” and you have to show the good and the bad. Do some people tune in just to see some crashes? Probably, but let’s hope they’re doing it with a Monster shirt on while a Toyota is parked in the driveway.
30:57- Still on that subject, the gang talks about RV’s bad luck at St Louis with the big crash last year and, I didn’t even realize this, Trey Canard and him coming together on the 250’s and Ryan ending up with a face full of aluminum finish line structure. I don’t think Ryan’s going to take his family to go see the arch anytime soon.
30:42- Five second board goes sideways and man, the emotion, pressure and nerves that the top five have to be feeling at this point is crazy. Sure we’d all like the money, fame, chicks and free stuff that these guys all get but the pressure is part of the stuff that we don’t see and I’m not everyone could deal with that well. No wonder why, according to Jeff Emig, Damon Bradshaw walked away from a $600,000 a year deal in the middle of his Yamaha contract. No money was worth the pressure that he was feeling week in and week out.
Tedesco would grab the holeshot in the main as well.
Photo: Garth Milan
30:30- But no pressure for me as I sit on my couch here and try to be witty! Anyways, Tedesco pulls off his second holeshot of the evening in the way more important main event. I like Ivan and he’s riding right now with a torn ACL and not practicing at all during the week so even though he has a zero chance of winning this thing, good for him and his team for this little moment of glory.
29:19- Tedesco is still leading and for a bit. He had Dungey on his fender but Stewart gets around the defending champion and strangely enough, Dungey does the exact opposite of what Tedesco did in the heat. By that I mean, he doesn’t put up much of a fight at all and doesn’t square up the turns and try to get JS back. Weird deal methinks.
29:17- Stewart jumps into the lead in a real nice move but one that could’ve been disaster if Tedesco had been two feet more to the left. James uses his sweet triple over the table and land on the inside to get past the number 9 Kawasaki. And because I followed this race last night, I know that it’s curtains for everyone else at this point. Stewart’s winless streak stops here.
26:49- First shot of Canard as he gets inside the top ten and what a bummer for the 41 as he really needed to keep his hot streak going to have any hope at this title. He didn’t get the start and that was it. Remember when Villopoto came from outside the top ten in LA to win the race? Yeah, well that’s not going to happen anymore.
24:46- The first shot of what I’ve been waiting to see and it’s on lap 8. There’s a three double section that Stewie made into two triples because, well, he’s crazy balls. So from what I gathered in reading the race reports and talking to riders the next day it was gnarly and James did it immediately to open up a bit of a gap on Dungey. The next lap around, Dungey did it, then RV did it but this was on the third and fourth laps, not on lap eight! I love this kind of psychological mindgames that go on with these guys and I can’t believe Fro or Ralph haven’t said anything yet. I just saw RV gain about 49 seconds on Chad!
RV rode to a very quiet third in St. Louis.
Photo: Andrew Fredrickson
24:11- Yes! Fro picks up on it and says that he believes Ryan has a new line but what he (or the spotter) has failed to notice is that at this point, James has done it for five laps and Dungey for four. Anyways, RV does it to zoom by Reed but he does have a bit of help as Reed doubles right into a Tuff block! The 22 immediately becomes stuck like a Woolly Mammoth in the tar pits.
23:35- A replay shows it again but generally speaking, the track crew does a good job of getting the blocks out of the way. And to Reed’s credit, he didn’t blame the block for his dropping a spot because as he said, he wasn’t jumping the triple/triple thing and RV was going to get him there anyways.
19:55- Back from commercial and someone really needs to sit Ralph down and explain this whole privateer/factory thing that he’s been on for a few weeks. This week shows Canard on Windham and Ralph talks about how the factory guy (Canard) has caught up to the privateer guy (Windham). Look, the whole who is a privateer thing and who isn’t is a giant mish-mash of silly putty and jube-jubes to but one thing I know for sure is there is no one who would ever call Kevin Windham a privateer. Ralphs a good guy and is smart, someone needs to get to him about this asap.
19:24- While I was going on about that, WOW- did Canard ever make a sweet pass on Windham. If you listen closely you can hear the groans of all the old men in the crowd as they head for the exits in time to catch the end of Matlock.
17:59- Yep, Stewie’s suspension is still really, really stiff. Man, it just pops him up when he cases something. He rides front end low already and I suppose that it has to be stiff so that he doesn’t eat poo when he’s off by a few inches here and there.
15:06- The top three have separated themselves a bit but now Canard has caught Reed for fourth. The battle is on and there probably isn’t any truth that the winner gets some works Honda parts from the losers bike.
A fourth in St. Louis was not what Reed was looking for.
Photo: Simon Cudby
13:35- The guys are talking about the Brett Michaels Rock Hard Award that is voted on by the fans and gives the winner 10G’s. It’s for the rider that has overcome the most adversity on and off the track. I myself would probably give this award to a guy like Weston Peick who is as privateer as they come nowadays and doing well in main events. Or maybe someone like Ivan Tedesco who has hit the ground about 892 times in 14 races and currently riding with no ACL. Or Jason Thomas whose season was basically ruined by his crash in Houston and he’s out there trying to make something happen.
But nope, it will go to one of the popular riders who will turn around and promptly spend that ten grand on gas for their speedboat. It’s like the Snap-On toolbox that was awarded to the top mechanic in SX, which is almost always the champion’s mechanic. The rich get richer. Kids, there’s a lesson in there for you somewhere and it’s this: be really, really good (or rich) in life and things get handed to you.
12:17- And Stewart wins it! Great ride by the seven and good to see him in the mix. Somehow, incredibly and despite all the nuttiness going on around him on and off the track, he’s now 16 points down. Cue the Jaws music…
11:56- Just as I was knocking the show earlier for not showing us the triple/triple sooner and talking about that, I have to give kudos for going back after the checkers to show us Canard’s battle with Reed which was very exciting until Canard almost bought the farm big-time. Wisely, Trey settled for fifth on the night and then had Max from Fly clean his pants out afterwards.
8:56- Back from commercial and interview with James on the podium. He shows some real emotion and I can imagine the pressure he’s been under the last two months. He’s been expected to run away with this thing and it hasn’t worked out that way. Great drama if you’re running the TV show!
An emotional win for Stewart in St. Louis.
Photo: Simon Cudby
Next up is Dungey and when asked if he has to approach the remaining three rounds any differently he says that he just has to keep plugging away. That sound you’re hearing could be me trying to plug Krazy glue into my ears so I don’t have to hear this stuff anymore.
Villopoto is next and with a five point lead he seems calm. Erin asks him a question if his troubles in St Louis affected him and he shuts that down with a “Not at all, it was a racing mistake…” and he says he rode a solid race. Then he thanks Geoff Fox at Parts Unlimited which I notice he does a bit even though Geoff doesn’t have much to do with the company anymore. Loyalty runs deep with RV.
And that’s a wrap folks! Good times indeed and I enjoyed trying to bring this to you. Remember all you folks out there that complain about the television coverage, the CBS shows are for the washing machine salesman and the SPEED shows are more for “us”. And then remember when the only race you would see all year was the Carlsbad USGP.
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Interesting write up as usual Steve. You should do what I do when the race is not on live. Turn off the internet and Twitter (probably impossible for you) and watch the race on Sunday as if it were live! I go as far to wait an hour after it broadcasts and watch the main only on DVR. Lets face it, the 4 minutes of heat and LCQ coverage and 20 min of Feld reaching out to non SX fans is a waste of time if you are a hardcore fan (though the I will go back and look for that MILF). Best season since the mid 80's.
somebody sit Ralph down!
I cringe with embarrassment when that dude gets on his "factory/privater" talk.
GREAT READ.
Indeed Texas , pretty pathetic...Fro must sit there and shake his head You never here Fro say that...he knows better... - Ralph gets really fired up and says. " And remember Reed is on a production bike you basically get off the show room floor "...
Good job Steve!
Laker has a point. Outside of the holeshots, the heats and LCQs can be boring. However, I love watching the pros too much to omit any portion of the on-track broadcast. I watch 'em more than a few times each week because I notice different things everytime. Like in the main (maybe lap 3), IT got bucked coming out of the whoops and still kept it on two wheels dispite the unattached ACL in his left knee. Then he goes on to hit the next section clean. What a bad ass! Kent might have been proud!
Hey Steve, I really enjoyed reading that with your perspective. I try to explain motocross to people and the Wahing repair guy thing had me. I dont have TV so I now understand some of the peoples post complaining about the TV coverage. It need to be made to make the people check out the racing not us lifelong MX addicts as we mainline the racing. (just put syrenge away) lol... I was hoping to get to meet you at Jerry World. in Arlington.
Maybe some time later Take care all.
I usually like this column but the set up of this one sucks monkey nuts
I also wish they would stop calling the TwoTwo team a privateer outfit. Though, I don’t want to diminish any of the success CR has been achieving verses a deck that is stacked against him, as he is putting up a great fight with fewer bells and whistles than the other top five. CR doesn't have the same caliber of works parts as TC or KW, but his bike’s not stock. Mitch Payton does the engine mods, and provides consultations, along with his shop dialing in the suspension. Plus, I've read (I think a Weege post here on Racer X) that CR has a works transmission part to prevent him from hitting neutral along with works triple clamps. That’s absolutely not stock. Additionally, when you factor in that he has a team manager, a semi with a driver, a clothing line by Shift, and he flies to the races in a private jet any objective fan can see he isn’t actually a privateer. This misnomer, however, makes for a great media angle of David vs. Goliath to intrigue the washing machine salesman.
You should skip all the play by play and just ask the network/s where the F is the live coverage!!!
Don't you have any pull? I know what you are pulling
Its funny how everyone makes fun of Dungey for his "boring" podium speeches.... THEY ALL SUCK. Almost EVERY rider sucks at podium speeches its about the worst 5 min of the entire broadcast.
Wow Ripping on some guys LOL. RD does need to come up with some new stuff!!
Ok so I guess none of you posting know what it was like to wait 6 months to see motocross on TV?? I really enjoyed reading that with STeve's perspective. cause he usually goes to the races. Just be glad this is 2011 and not 1972 when I started racing lol
I'd rather kick the shit out of Shaheen. We are subjected to hearing his annoying ass whether we like it or not. You CHOOSE to read Matthes' column.
"400lb sack of clown shit"
That was beautiful
Yes, somebody PLESE enlighten Shaheen......2 weeks ago he repeatedly called Reeds bike "100 percent production".......that's just ignorant!!
......oops....."PLEASE"!!
To bad Steve has no clue what this ass clown looks like, so at Vegas when said ass clown ( if he even shows up) backs out of his promise Steve can talk shit to the punks face.
Cage match in Vagas between Matthes and Matthes Youareamoron... What the line??
@Matthes Youareamoron
Internet tough guy. Wow, that's never been done before. Go do something productive with your life: jump in front of a fast moving bus
Its all Good. When I was a kid I would have to wait4 to 6 weeks to get any information or results through Motocross Action Mag. We are very lucky to have the coverage we have. Good or bad we all have are own ideas.
Shake hands and come out fighting
BillC, if Matthes steps on the guys foot, its over,ha ha ha!! Its funny how they say Larocco doesnt like to talk. I spoke to him a few times. I caught him at Red Bud, and just said "Hey Mike, whats up?" Like I knew him, and I guess he was too embarressed to say "Who are you?" and he talked to me for a while. It was pretty funny. Ralph Shaheen said Reeds bike was a production bike, and he said Stewies team was a privateer team!! He needs a lesson in supercross thats for sure. But it isnt like its his first season, he is just goofy..
I am finding it almost appropriate that the broadcasts are being shown on Sunday mornings.... I realize GOD is an important part of some folks lives and I repsect that however... dont lay your faith on those of us who may feel differently and are watching you ride because you RACE .... This constant praise to the LORD to GOD to JESUS is enough to make a half drunk Supercross fan PUKE.... Your in the spotlite..... your a racer; talk racing and do it well enough that we know what your saying.... Your not going to convert me so stop trying!
Pathetic! 20 years with the World Wide Web and all we have to follow live racing is Twitter and Live Timing!! For Gods sake, at least bring back Virtual Grandstand!!
I know what Matthes really did while taking the weekend of in St. Louis....Obviously he sat at home with Mt. Dew, Funyons, got stoned and wrote up this column. Seriously. He's witty naturally, but only someone STONED can think of these kinds of things. Hookers and Jack and Cokes? wtf? Funny stuff though. Like the direction you took it by keeping it interesting
Matthes, please tell us you can track the IPs and find out who these jackasses are when they post threats to you and/or the staff of RacerX on your website.
It would be great to know the authorites could get involved in cases like this. May not turn into anything, but at least you could get his cage rattled.
Good article! Great race for #7 but im thinkin a little to late for the comeback! Reed does not have a Privateer Bike nor does he live the life as a privateer! He does not pay mitch to build his motors or bones to do his suspn, A true privateer travels cross country in a box van with a friend or usually your dad, WESTON PEICK is a hero he dsnt fly to the races he logs long hours on the road and is beating some factory or factory support riders. When you don't have your own private SX track you have to pay upwards of $100 a day to ride or practice they dont get the "hook up" @ all the races of product being thrown @ them left and right, There's not fresh new tires on the bike everytime they ride these TRUE privateers deserve and need the "Rock Hard" 10k !!!
Steve........... please don't do that again.
I am glad that there is moto coverage on tv, but......let's face it. The coverage sucks. Really, it's unwatchable. I have to DVR it and watch it after it airs. Too many commercials, too many stupid segments. Why can't there just be racing? I bet even the non-moto viewer that they are trying to lure in thinks it sucks. I hope they do the outdoor national, first motos live on the Internet again this year. They show the whole moto with no commercials. That is the best coverage there is.
Is Seattle live this week....or is Utah and Vegas.... I know Vegas is for sure...but thought there was one other live ?
easy up on Dungey, he is just trying to do the right thing. He's a racer not a professional spokesman.
& quit complaining about coverage. Way back when they had a dam phone # you had to call for results!
1-900-INF-MOTO... My MOM: what are all these 900 #'s on the phone bill?? ME ... Its just a Moto line mom!! LOL
Prime
You're right; the internet broadcast was great because it didn’t have commercials. But, it was at the cost of omitting the HD.
If I remember right, this year will have moto one on FuelTv (not HD) and moto two will air on Speed. Sadly, it seems like all of the non cable viewers will be left out. I sure hope Speed, or ALLI, post the races on their website so more fans can watch. I watched the last MXdN on a RedbullTV and that was’t bad.
I remember watching the WMX races and was surprised how competitive the racing was. That was fun to watch because they actually battle each other the majority of the time; even if the pace is lower.
True bd200... true. Saw him in Toronto his Calfs are bigger then my thigh's!! LOL
Good stuff Steve.
HA!! 1-900-INF-MOTO....that goes back..I was guilty of the same thing " Thank you race fans for calling 1-900-INF-MOTO...Greg Barbacovi here with the results from Pontiac Michigan....Team Kawasaki's Mike LaRocco took the win tonight....."
Ease up with the "back in my day" business!
For example, it use to take days to travel anywhere before the car. Does that make you hate the rise in gas prices any less? Or, back when AOL was the only way to the internet and you had to wait for it to connect, does that make the slower moments of your always-on cable modem any less irritating?
Those are oversimplified examples, but the market is voicing the demand better broadcasting. Let’s face it, this isn’t the ‘70s, ‘80s, ‘90s or ‘00s any longer. With the advent of the internet, the excuse for poorly represented media/entertainment is null. Maybe RacerX could champion a shift for this underrepresented market? I know it’s doubtful since the working capital for the majority of the industry is too low for innovation and large expenditures. However, this is an underserved market. I know I’m not the only one who’s drafted a few different business plans on this issue.
"Back in my day" before the Xgames, people were just ride’n and skate’n around…
LOL Trend Killer ... Was it just me or did they always drag it out to make more money?? LOL get to the results!!!
@wtfmatthes?
The hookers and jack and coke remark was from the movie fresno smooth. It was a line J-Bone said to Fro. Old school fox movie.
CBS = Can't Broadcast Supercross. Speed shows both heats and highlights of the LCQ and the Main. CBS shows us JS7 going to Taco Bell to buy cinnimon twists, part of the 1st heat, highlights of the 2nd heat, mentions the LCQ, and then lousy coverage of the main interuppted by totally unwanted human interest crap. As a fan, I want to see the races, all of them. I care about what happens in each race. Hey AMA and Feld, dump CBS and stick with Speed.
Hey Monsoon, perhaps you have noticed that being really good at something sometimes affords you the soap box. How often do we have to listen to Hollywood jackoffs express their political beliefs (which I am betting you enjoy)? The crazy thing is, they are afforded that opportunity because they are really good at pretending they are somebody else! What a JOKE, that being said, I am guessing you have never overjumped or come up short on a 70+ foot triple? If you have, you might ponder the fact that some get up and dust off and some don't get up. JUST SAYIN...These guys being superstars has afforded them the opportunity to express their faith and thank their GOD. You hear it in every sport not just supercross. What an Irony that Canard, Dungey Villopoto all seem like pretty good guys of character HMMM.... Don't remember J-Law thanking GOD????? So if you want to express your faith, I suggest you get reallly good at something, get your podium, superbowl mvp, academy award moment, whatever, and tell us about the BIG BANG theory, the Monkey's, the spaceship etc. until then, deal with it!!!!!!!
Monsoon - YES - THANK YOU! Well said. Couldn't agree more. Would be a lot more relevant if they just kept it to the racing and the sport. That's all anyone really wants to hear.
If you want politics or religion rammed down your throat there are plenty of places you can go for that if that's your thing.
Hard to respect someone pushing their specific beleifs in a general forum of sport.
The funny thing is they all think it's fine if it's about JC because it fits in with their own beliefs. Watch them all rapidly turn if RD/RV/TC were thanking Allah (or Buddha etc). Now that'd be some seriously funny forum reading from the JC crew!!! LMFAO.
The guys are talking about the Brett Michaels Rock Hard Award that is voted on by the fans and gives the winner 10G’s. It’s for the rider that has overcome the most adversity on and off the track. I myself would probably give this award to a guy like Weston Peick who is as privateer as they come nowadays and doing well in main events. Or maybe someone like Ivan Tedesco who has hit the ground about 892 times in 14 races and currently riding with no ACL. Or Jason Thomas whose season was basically ruined by his crash in Houston and he’s out there trying to make something happen.
Best part of this article. This is so funny cause its so true ...
Also like someone said before i emember having to call that number as well. ..
Perhaps the reason that Dungey did not put up much of a fight when Stewie passed him is because when Stewie passes everyone, it is almost always over afterwards. In addition, it seems that Dungey has been off his game without DeCoster.
@gbs417
I was born in 84. i never had to call the hotline for results. That wasn't my point, point is...
not matter how good the coverage people will complain & say it could be better & please don't tell me complaining people are what drive companies to adhere to the market, paying customers & growing markets are what get that done.
money talks so support your sport!
@whatever.. Shaheen is a dickhead.. But he (Shaheen) is more geared to the average Joe who has no clue what so ever about the bike being a production or a factory bike.
I reckon it has no use to go into details what are the production parts are still on the bike and what are the upgraded parts from procircuit and what are the parts Honda is giving Reed.
Bottom line... Defining the word privateer.. Reed is a privateer... And it doesn't matter whether Reed is pumping millions in his racing effort than another privateer who pumps thousands of $$...
Reed is not getting a factory support in the broadest sense... Where a factory support means giving $$ into the 22 motorsport racing team effort.. Or a factory bike just like Canard.
The base of the bike is 100% production.. 22motorsports just modifies it.. To make it competitive.. But the average Joe does not care all the details.. Keep it simple. But Shaheen remains a dickhead.
On another note.. just read that TC41 had a big crash on practice wednesday.. And seems he broke his femur? He will miss a few rounds of the outdoor and is out for the remaining races of SX??? Can anyone confirm this??
I hope thats not true Didierlotsyeng.
I hope thats not true Didierlotsyeng. But if it is he will miss more than a "FEW" rounds of the Nats.
CBS coverage just plain sucks!!!!!!!!!!!! Its almosta s bad as the idea of Speed to only show the second moto of the nationals
BillC... Well, according to this website... He crashed hard on wednesday while practising for the outdoors.
The good news is, TC will not need the 6 months of recovery time for such an injury. So he will only miss a few rounds of the nationals... Bummer!!
http://www.lebigusa.com/articles/patte-cassee-pour-trey-canard.html
Man that sucks. Hw was a long shot for the title but could have took some points from guys anyway.
Motonut, is it the speak of Jesus Christ that bugs you or the fact that some of the moto guys that are consistently running up front feel, compelled to express their faith? You put a microphone in front of someone and ask them questions, they are going to talk. When they talk, they might say what is important to them. If their faith is important to them, your disapproval doen't matter, If a podium speech, a 100M sprinter medalist, Butterfly swimmer etc. has Allah propel them to greatness, by all means thank him.... But you might consider who is consitently being thanked by all these great athletes??? I am sure it is not Allah
Best answer ver Mr fotidred54m. I wonder why none of these nonbelievers and atheists never have a chance to express their non belief to the masses. Maybe cause they are not able to win or strongly appear nowhere near success.. mmm..
Weird.. I guess they will have to work harder towards their goals, in case they have any...
Back to supercross, thanks for the read Matthes, the prize should be awarded to a true warrior privateer who really needs that cash.
I cannot beleive I'm responding to some nutjob religion peddlers on here ( fotidred54m & not two two) but...... let me see - oh JM2, RC4, JS7 & CR22 seem to have been up on that 'soapbox' A LOT in the last 15 years without the constant need for referall to a higher being of their choice!!!!! Can you not read the results? Are you fully literate?
Oh, and how do you explain Mohammed Ali's greatness? Hmmmm?
Do us all a favor and just stick to the racing - PLEASE!!!! And you wonder why one eyed religion starts wars... I'd put you 2 over the berm any day!!
Motonut you'd have to catch me to stuff me and I've got GOD on my side!! RC is my favorite all time rider...still! I have never, not thought he was the best, so him not praising GOD, causes me zero issue! Looks like JS7 and CR22 could use a little GOD in their life right now. Point is, I don't refer to anyone as a nut job for not expressing their religous belief, or being a non believer. For all you know all of the riders you mentioned, do believe in GOD, they just don't express it as the others. The reason I continue to respond to you and a guy like Monsoon in the first place, is because you should not be hating on the guys that have the faith. Watch the racing and skip the podium speech, just like if you don't care to listen, you don't go to church, it is your decision, have a blessed day!
fotidred54m - Couldn't help but see the funny side and laugh at your reply. Great to see some competitive spirit there! I'm not hating on them for their faith - that is their or anyone's personal perogative. (To believe in one thing or another, not beleive, agnistic like me, whatever) Look, the more I think about it is more just the robotic, impersonal way some of them communicate publicly. Dungey has to be the most boring & predictable of them all. It's the same memorised speach. Maybe if they showed some personality then I'd get off my soapbox. I want to hear about the racing - these guys go so fast and i have full respect for that so I guess i want to here the details of how they go that fast, race that hard and what they think of the track other riders etc.
Anyway - peace, respect and have a good day yourself.
Some spelling errors in there but it's late so cut me some slack....