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PrintAfter the race, we grabbed some of the top riders and found out about the race that was. Here’s what they had to say:
James Stewart: “I had a decent jump, but I ended up going down in the first corner. Me and Dungey kind of tagged, and I had to check up, and I got hit in the back by Trey. So my guy was down there trying to help me get up, and I ended up tripping backwards and falling over again! So it was a rough first corner. The bike was a little bent up. I was coming through. Thomas ended up rolling that table top and I got caught up and landed on him. That bent my front rotor. It was locking up in the air after that. It was a tough one for sure.”
Chad Reed:"Warning, you're not going to get a lot of positive out of me tonight. I felt like I tried to fight for a good start, because, on this track, if you didn’t get it, you were in trouble." - Chad Reed
But I guess getting a bad start would have been the same as ending up on the ground, so it worked out about the same. I’m being optimistic here! Yeah, I fought for the start all the way down that start stretch. I think it was James, Dungey and myself, and we were just going off of each other, and neither one of us let off, and James and I ended up on the ground. I was kind of on the bottom of it, which kind of sucked. I tried to get up and fight. It was just follow the leader until a guy made a mistake, then you’d make a pass, then try to go up to the next guy and hope he made a mistake. I was kind of lucky that a lot of the guys did make mistakes when I got up to them, the only one I had to get aggressive with was Tedesco, which kind of sucks but what do you do on this track? “
Reed and a host of others, including James Stewart, came together in the tight first turn.
Photo: Simon Cudby
“I’m that guy right now, I guess. You can look at the track map on paper and you know it’s not going to work. And I understand there’s pressure from the fans to create longer lap times. I understand that, but do you do it at the expense of a great race track and great racing? The answer for me is no. They’re trying to zig zag the track around the stadium, hey, we should do a section out back, maybe race into the football gym, maybe into the press box... I hate to be that guy. But I feel like, when it’s a good race track, I’ve said it’s a good race track. When it’s bad, I say it’s bad. Hey, these guys are professionals. If I’m getting bad starts, I have to go to work and fix my starts. You have to work on everything and get better. But year after year, these guys do the same thing. Now, I do want to say this, a lot of my complaints in the past where how they finished the track, the dirt, the transitions, the berms, just the finishing touches, and they have stepped it up there. Now, it’s just the layout. I respect what they’re doing in getting creative to try to extend the lap times, but it’s not working. You took out half the field in the first turn. Maybe I’m just bitter because I was on the bottom of it, but at the end of the day, you just want good racing, as a fan.”
Jason Thomas: “The night was good for me until about eight laps in. Mike Alessi ran me high in a turn and I think (James) Stewart tried to pass both of us at once and I was in the line and he landed on top of me. We went down pretty bad. I hurt my knee kind of and I hope I can tough it out and keep riding. It sucks because I felt like I was doing pretty well, there were a couple of guys that were going to get me- Chad (Reed) was coming and obviously Bubba was going to pass me. I felt like I could have easily got my best finish of the year.
"I wasn’t mad at him (Stewart), he’s trying to get to the front. He’s got a lot at risk. He’s going so much faster than us that he miscalculated and ended up on the ground. I’m not mad at him, it ruined his race as well.”
Thomas was having a solid night before coming together with Stewart.
Photo: Andrew Fredrickson
Brett Metcalfe: “It was good. Heat race went well, main event I got another great start and was about second. The whole race I was on Davi’s (Millsaps) butt, really, and I was feeling good. Then Trey went by us, and Ryan (Dungey) too . But I was still up into the top five, and about halfway through I really started finding my groove, but I just couldn’t find a way around Davi. He just wasn’t making any mistakes. Then I started trying some silly stuff to try to figure out a way to pass, and I started making mistakes doing that. RV got past me when that happened, and then I made another big mistake when he passed me. I dropped back, and I wanted to keep charging, but on the last lap, I didn’t even realize Shorty was behind me. He just dove inside of me and got me. Then through the whoops—man, I crashed, and it was gnarly. Me and Shorty were tight coming out of the corner, so I was still turning a little bit when I entered them, and man, the rear wheel just broke loose and I went flying. It was a yard sale. I’m feeling okay, but obviously when you rag doll through whoops and bounce off of them, you’re gonna’ be a little sore. It’s okay. I’m walking.”
Dungey re-grouped in Houston with a solid second place finish.
Photo: Andrew Fredrickson
Ryan Dungey: “Last week, we still don’t know what happened. It was just an unfortunate deal. The chain derailed, it’s motocross and anything can happen in this sport. Most importantly, you have to focus ahead and not dwell on the past. So I feel good that we were back on track here. I got a good start, about fifth, and eventually I was able to close in on the leader, Trey, and I was able to make the pass, but I couldn’t make it stick. From there I tried to make a couple attempts, but I just couldn’t make it work. All in all, a good night, we put ourselves in a good position. The bike was awesome, the team was great, but we just came up a little short.
“When I was back in fifth, that was the hard part. I was sitting there, and Millsaps and Trey were right in front of me, and one would go inside and one would go outside, and there was nothing I could do. I didn’t force it. I just wanted to put myself in position to be there in the end. Once I got into second, I was able to close in on Trey. Absolutely, when I had open laps I was able to find my lines and get some good lap times in. But once I got up to him, that was tough. The track was a little tight. I just couldn’t make it stick. The last lap, it was crazy. I tried to square up, and I got a good drive coming out of the turn, surprisingly since I was so far inside, but he still had the line, he had me on the up and up and he was able to just pinch me off. Congrats to them, it’s a big step for his career. But, like I said, I came up short.”
Villopoto overcame a bad start to stand on the podium.
Photo: Simon Cudby
Ryan Villopoto: "The start, it wasn’t my jump (that was the problem) really, it was blue groove and I lit the tire up and spun. I worked my way up and made some mistakes. The track was tough, it was slow and slippery. I had some close calls out there for sure. I knew that I was lapping James (Stewart) because I saw what happened at the start of the race. I was marking him out there over the doubles. I didn’t know about the second crash of his but I figured something was up.
“I could see Windham up there for sure on the triples. I was hoping he was going to win, bummer he went down.”
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Nice read. Why does Ryan Dungey always has to give us some lame 'after school special" quote like
Nice read. Why does RD1 always has to give us the same lame "after school special" quote like "Most importantly, you have to focus ahead and not dwell on the past." Give it a rest Dungey.
RV wanted Windham to win, Thats respect right there. Reed is totally right. I'm sick of these short laps, and the follow the leader tracks. Did feld really think that first turn would work out??? That track prolly took out half the AMA field. Why is shorty such a dirty rider? Him and barcia ought to exchange numbers
I guess RD has his prepaired statement kinda like president obama.
RD says the same thing in every interview each week....his pre-race interview had the same "move forward" passage, but then again...he is asked the same question over and over too..... So Alessi road JT high and screwed things up for everyone.....Even JT doesnt blame Stewart......but all the Bro Show haters blame him...love it!!
Why are the tracks so non rider friendly. They are way to tight and even the first turns suck. Make some room on the tracks so we can watch some actual racing. If I want to watch follow the leader I'll sit on the side of the highway. There's more battling in traffic getting to the race then there is in the actual race
Villomoto rules....awesome for him to say that about KDUB.
I HOPE TO SEE MORE ARTICALS LIKE THIS ONE . BEST READ IN A LONG TIME. MAN WHAT A YEAR
I want the tracks to go up into the stands and get creative for a change, but the insurance companies have greedy promoters by the sack and don't want sections of racetrack going into the stands. The promoters don't want to give up seat space for racetrack. I guess they'll just have to put 10 pounds of racetrack in a five pound bag, as usual. Too bad Reed's in love with "formula only" tracks, I'd like to see more variety instead of Lego set tracks with standard obstacles that the factories can copy for their practice tracks and dominate on.
stop making the tracks so hardpacked let them rut up. Especially in the turns it will give more lines in the track. Just compact the jump faces an landings and whoops . Let everything else rut up.
first off how can you not like any of these RIDERS id also like to say WE DONT CARE HOW THE HELL YOU DO IT IN THE WEST. GO BROC TICKLE.
Please RD1, you are not winning
Everything is NOT okay
You lost this race you should be pissed
A rookie beat you you should be pissed,
Hats off to TC - when he got passed HE WENT AFTER IT!!!!!!!!
You let first place escape, you had the lead and TC passed you back, you have NO fight in you
You are freaking #1, it is not going to be handed to you again
Damn dude show some aggression
We are tired of the
Bikes running great
Team doing great
Its all good
We have a few things to work on
Going to ride this week and come back next week
Dude grow some, I know I can't do what you do, but
YOU CAN - NOW PROVE IT!!!!!
JAIRTIME: IS RIGHT I REMEMBER THE TRACK WOULD GO UP INTO THE SEATS TO MAKE A HILL AND MADE FOR A LONGER TRACK WITH GOOD TIMES AND WAS SUCH GOOD RACING . MAYBE THEY WILL BRING BACK THE TOUR TO THE SILVERDOME . THEY COULD DO A TWO NIGHTER LIKE THEY USED TO. AND THE PROMOTORS WILL BE HAPPY. AND THE FANS ALSO. AND MOST INPORTANT I WILL BE HAPPY. RACER X AND THE STAFF ARE THE BEST.
FOR THE DUDE THAT WENT OFF ON DUNGEY. FUNNY BUT DO YOU REALIZE THAT ONE OF THE RYANS IS GOING TO BE THE NEXT CHAMP. I HAVE THOUGHT THAT FROM DAY 1 OR POSSIBLY STEWART. I STILL SAY VLLOPOTO WILL WIN IT ALL BUT ANY THING CAN HAPPEN IN THIS SPORT AND YOU HAVE TO USE YOUR BRAIN. THATS WHAT MAKE YOU GET TO THE END. AND STILL BE IN IT . THEY ARE IN IT TO WIN THE CHAMPIOPNSHIP . WHAT IM SAYING IS YOU WISH YOU HAD THE CAHOONAS THAT DUNGEY HAS.
The only place the track ever went "into the seats" was the la coliseum b/c the arena has the capabilities to offer that. Trust me< there's no where in Reliant Stadium (or 99%) of the other venues to pull that off. YES, the 1st turn sucked, and yes many things are questionable, but they design them every week and somtimes things work and sometimes things dont work. As far as "cookie cutter" obstacles. I assume you're referring to the triples. They are set up the same every week for RIDER SECURITY!! do you know how many crashes there would be if they changed the distance and slope of these jumps. The triples are for the fans, not the riders. just a photo op. That's why they're the same every week! And yes, RD needs to nut up and get mean. But it's too late. Villopodium is going to sweep both series. and anyone who knows anything knows im right!
bring back the LA coliseum, and the peristyle jump.
All of these top riders have publicists or managers that help them with Media relations. Cliches keeps them from deer in the headlights moments like after the traction control question. All of us couch racers can't fathom the number of repetitions of the same questions and the Autographs. The media circus in general is a grind. The interviewers are all looking for unique questions to try to get a unique answer with relevance to the sport. Watch Bull Durham some day and see the exaggeration of canned interviews. Without the Cliches there would just be a bunch of "it's out there" responses.
Hey RacerX, cool new column!! I hope this is going to become a weekly thing!! It is sort of a print version of TWMX "How Was Your Weekend"....it's good to hear a summary of what some of these guys thought about the night. Looks like some of the people involved in some of the mishaps are just calling it racing!!! "Track design" took out the first turn....... Interesting!!
Obviously, someone is forgetting about the many many years of the Pontiac SX where the track ran up into the seats and back down into the stadium floor......... It's not only LA thing.
The tracks have sucked and been too one lined........... so what if they are easy and we have seen the layout before if it makes for good racing. Give us some long football field length whoop sections where guys can pass each other!
dc99 Pontiac definitely went hairpin up and down where there were seats (they removed them) in the 80's.... I rode it. Get your facts straight. You are right about the length and slopes of the jumps. If the tracks changed too much we would see a bigger gap between the top 5 and the rest and an increased risk factor that we don't need. Also tried and failed is a Sand Corner, although a sand straight may be as entertaining as a whoop section. Reed eluded to it, there is a track formula for great racing.... and for the top guys it isn't a challenge, but it allows them to put on a show within 10ths of a sec of each other
I think McGrath knocked himself silly coming out or just before entering the bleacher section at Pontiac one year.....that was a cool feature back in the day along with the double header.....
That's what I'm saying MARK HPLKA
He had the chance to WIN it and I feel he did not ride aggressive enough to get it
TC did and when RD passed him TC went after it and you could tell TC was winning that race.
Ask yourself, when have you seen RD get after it and mix it up with someone else
I just think he is too soft, if he gets the holeshot then he's fine. But he is not a come from behind kinda racer. RC stuffed many of rider on his quest to "winning the championship"
I'm sorry but if getting second place is "racing for the championship, then he's not a champion in my book.
i'm glad JT isn't blaming Stewie! it was an accident,plain and simple on a bad,one line,doo doo track! JS7 & RV2,TOP 2 IN SD. COUNT IT.
DC99 YOU ARE WRONG. LA IS NOT THE ONLY TRACK TO INTO THE SEAT SECTION THE PONTIAC SUPERDOME USED TO RUN 2 NIGHTERS AND REVERSE THE DIRECTION THE SECOND NIGHT OF RACES. AND THEY MADE A BIG HILL THAT WENT RIGHT OVER THE SEATS AND U TURNED AND WENT BACK DOWN WITH A RIGHT HANDER TURN WITH A TRIPLE MAY BE A DOUBLE.JUMP... YOU MUST BE A WEST COAST KNOW IT ALL. BUT I AM THE REAL DEAL KNOW IT ALL. EAST COAST RULES
wow! so i didn't know about the pontiac superdome! sorry. Still illustrates my point becuase that is only one other venue that could do it. And no, i'm not a west coast know it all, just a guy that didn't know pontiac did that. Sorry!! and yes, The Peristyle is awesome. i'm young, but grew up watching the 86' supercross video over and over from there. And i never said anyone wasn't the real deal nor did i say any of you guys never rode there. So chill out. thanks. that is all.
All you who are so quick to call out these riders why don't you sign up ,get on the line ,make the program . If you do this i'll bet a thousand dollars your infantile opinions change . One sure fact..... the first corner at Houston was f'ing STUPID!!!!!!!
Reed is seeing this correctly. We fans demand value for our dollar & 43 sec. laps aren't it! The answer is out there but, you must WANT a solution first. A return to the L.A. Coliseum would be SICK!!! They (landlords) would probably let designers go all over & get very freaky with the design. The riots ended in '92, "Whitey" can probably return to the area and not get robbed or bricked on the cranium and bring a little revenue back to the vicinity plus, it is historically significant to SX.
I remember 87 or so they rode into the stands in Tampa
rd a racist every white boy from every state is a racist get over it , dungey is a great role model and works hard so does canard .and canard beat him straight up villapoto wante d kw to win because he didnt want rd,tc to get the points ,had nothing to do with class or respect .
RDFAN............yoo hoo hi BillC we all know it's you. Unbelievable man.
They don't set the triples up the same at every event for rider security, unless that security is based on knowing that your factory has built a track with an identical set of triples so you can dial it in to the nth degree.
Those tracks are set up so the races will be close, and the insurance company decides how the obstacles will be designed as much as anybody. Typical motocross tracks have tabletops because the insurance companies want it that way, where before, there might have been any range of obstacles out there.
If they made the whoops sharp, steep and of varying height and angle, it would separate the men from the boys too much, and the racing wouldn't be so close. Riders would get a little out of control more often.
Are these guys PRO MOTOCROSSERS or what?!? dc99, are you saying they can't adapt to a different type of obstacle?
To me, when SX tracks are so LEGO LAND, with certain sized whoops with certain spacing, with doubles and triples of a certain shape and angle, peak to peak measurement and height, and it's been this way for so long, that says to me that SX has stagnated. It should be much more varied and challenging. We could then watch races where the pros could show us how these varied obstacles are tackled by the best riders in the world. LEGO LAND tracks only show us the same old same old, and I, for one, hold the top pros in Supercross to a higher standard than the one-dimensional and predictable courses they have to race on, and I don't care if the factory pros don't like losing the advantage of an identical practice track. Changing it up with unpredictable mega variety and more technical challenges would give the privateers less of a disadvantage, but the factories aren't going to have that!
How about one of these for the 250s. It would have been cool to hear what wilson and barcia would have to say
great start for this season,,js7 is a racer just like the rest only he's faster, kw WFT?? you lap js7 then brain fart,,,ouch for the both of ya. these guys that make the tracks are pro's however the tracks that were designed by the racers last year were better...oh yea the villapoduim is mine...I said it first last year so there.. lastly where the hell is yz sean? we miss ya and the dungey rules stuff even though you can't spell..LOL just bustin yer chops dude
DC99, it's called the Pontiac Silverdome not Superdome, and it was awesome having the race going into the stands. I don't know what happend to the Michigan market, but Supercross abandoned us. We use to have a Supercross every year, some years we had two. Pontiac has hosted more rounds of Supercross than almost any other stadium, besides Anahiem. When the Lions moved to Ford Field in Detroit (great stadium), Supercross followed for a few years then just disappeared from Michigan altogether. I don't think it's a market thing because Red Bud is still one of the highest attended and most loved Nationals of the year. It's a shame, the closest place to see a Supercross now if you live in Michigan is Indy, and that isn't very close... Some great races have gone down in the greater Detroit area. It's a shame to see that the state of Michigan loses its one race and then see Anahiem with 6 or 7, plus San Diego, San Francisco, Oakland, LA... (Obviously exaggerating but you see my point.) Spread it out so more fans can go instead of the same fans going 5 times a year...
A very good article and I think Reed made some good commments and everyone else said it like it is. Also thanks to all that most of the psts were good comments. I would just like to see at least 20mnts for the Supercross main and at least 15 mints for the 250's. I think it could be worked out into the program. Yes the start was tough but hey they all gotta race on the same track.
I believe you have something there, john. All these guys are working hard. RD was trying; it's a tribute to Canard that he held him off. Some of you have so much venom for a kid who's worked his way up from the Bs, in part simply by being positive. I agree about the media stuff, too, mrwhirlwind. Only in America: it's not cool to be positive anymore. BTW, it's not cool to be smart, either. Blame the teachers, but they're working with the worst attitudes in modern history. Some of you guys reflect that well.
And ... save the racist remarks, but a little reading comprehension for some of you. If JT$ says Stewart is "going so much faster than us that he miscalculated and ended up on the ground," I'm pretty sure he's saying that it was Bubba's fault. (HE MISCALCULATED.) Great that Jason has no hard feelings, but quit arguing that Stewart wasn't to blame! This isn't being a hater, either. It's just stating what happened.
my opinion on the js7 raping jt47, i've done the same thing, i thought the guy in front of me was going to be out of my way and i thought i had enough space and i didn't, landed on his fender and broke his wrist. it is what it is but i learned from it and never did it again. js has done crap like this forever (landing on rc4, at unidilla i think it was) you would think he'd learn from it. very nice to see jt47 not cussin him out because i'd be heated. point of the matter is that stewart has been runnin professional races for almost 10 years, one would think he'd be mature enough not to pull something like that. i'd expect that out of barcia maybe, having only like 3 years under his belt and still being a little wreckless but 10 years of professional racing? come on man
LOL at RV saying he wanted KW to win.
Love this new column RacerX!
The start was "just one of those things" and not even an apology to JT$. Wow, zero accountability. But not a surprise at this point is it.
I vote for two moto format for SX and here is my reasoning:
The person who gets the all important start in moto one may or may not get it in moto 2. Two motos creates a race within a race. There is position within the race and then points for overall. If you go down in the first moto and get bad points you have a chance to better your overall standing with a better second moto finish. Just beat the guys who beat you.
Make the motos timed +2 laps. Lites 15+2 and SX 20 +2. This means for tv you would have SX be 40 - 45 minutes of race coverage not counting heats and when chopped down for commercials you still can get more racing for the fans. And of course the fans track side actually get some value for the dollar with all the additional racing.
What say you!
I don't know who's worse, Erin Bates asking clueless questions or Dungey with the same stupid answer every week. Its like he's afraid of getting in trouble or something.
I think they should have different riders design the track every week like they did a couple years ago, because the track designers have no imagination. AT ALL.
well Jimmy did you ever think that Dungey's contract has limitations on his content? He has all of his sponsors to please and a wholesome image to maintain..... it only leaves so much to say. Beyond that isn't it wise to say nothing and make everyone assume you are stupid than to open it and remove all doubt?
As to your last comment, mrwhirlwind ... if only.....
Great column and lots of great comments.
When I was putting out my cigar is when the ball dropped in the moonlight because my bike can go fast right around the bowl of tomorrow... hee hee! Put that in your pipe and smoke it!
Wow, I find it so funny how side tracked so many of you guys get with you're posts. Just dealing with this colunm, first JS7 saying that Trey rammed him from behind WTF I just watched the race again and clearly JS was trying to pinch Trey off and Treys left foot is over top of the tuff blocks left side of his bike pushing tuff blocks out of the way and he was beside JS when everybody hit the ground. As far as Chads comments go I have never liked the guy but this year I am gaining a huge amount of repect for him (although I wish he didn't break out those stupid earrings again) he just hasn't seemed the sniveling b*tch of years past.
RD well I have to agree he just can't seem to step up when he needs to (IE: no balls) I'm sure in time he will figure it out, look at his career to date Hot Stale Hot.
I think RV has the best shot at the title but it's not over until Viva Las Vegas. Oh and by the way clearly the closest jairtime has ever gotten to a AMA Supercross track is on a video game, think about it dude any of these tracks you screw up and that's it end of everything you've worked you're whole life for.... ( i don't think even the great US of A is even ready for deathsports yet. Just saying
Anyone out there 'posting' ever actually raced or played any truly competitive sports? There's a mental aspect at the top level of a sport like MX/SX that must be over a lot of your heads from the way you are responding.
Surprising how few realize the amount of gamesmanship going on in a post-race interview. Like him or not, a guy like RD 1 is a Pro and smarter than anyone is giving him credit for. Still don't get it?
Come on you guys, do you really think He's going to show his true feelings and frustrations about his results so far? Get a clue.
It's not just about being fast on the track; it's a mental game too. Listen to RD 1's interviews: forgettable as can be ..., on purpose!
Same thing week in and week out. He's sly as a fox fellas; so much so that no one has even noticed his 'game'. Just what he wants.
With the level of competition at the gate in the 450 Main, If you were wearing the #1 plate do you really want to let your competitors think they have you figured out? Not a chance in Hell.
All you guys writing anyone off 1/3rd of the way through the season are not seeing the bigger picture. RD 1 is looking longer term and most of these 'posters' can't think past last week or beyond next Saturday night.
Still pleading your case......you're too much!!!!
Open Class.. 2 moto format will not work... Tried it back in 85.. Sucked big times..
Plus Making the races longer... Try finding TV stations willing to pump in more $$ to create more exposure...
Plus they will have to recoup all of this... Ok.. Nascar is losing popularity.. And they are desperate and now are letting foreigners compete.. Hell even a lady is riding now.. (D.Patrick)... Still... Compared to other sports.. SX is still far off the pace... In terms of reach and TV viewers...
And.. The audience coming to the races are relatively young...
Maybe if you throw in more latinos.. Asians.. Black african americans... As riders.. Maybe it will create more interest... But I do not see this happening anytime soon... Maybe in 1-2 decades from now...
Actual format is ok... It's the track designs which sucks... Making it harder and harder to pass.. Absurd...
Bring back the Rose Bowl & the L.A. Coliseum (Great venues with Supercross histories). How about an April race @ Soldier's Field in Chicago in the latter part of the season too?!
Fresh opportunities for some unique track designs.
The result would be some better races (longer too) between more riders when compared with today's predictable sub :59 sec. laps where (usually) the-start-means-everything track layouts.
Hey... 1 question and I hope someone has the answer for me?
Why do they have 20 lap main events and not like the nationals where its X amount of minutes plus 2 laps? If the mains were 20 mins plus 2 laps, it wouldnt matter how long the tracks were? If anyone knows the answer to this, please post in a comment.
Congrats Trey on your win... Superb :o)
track that kicks off the east coast takes out half the class in the start.. great job feld!! and for everyone hatin on dungey give it a rest because he will win and its just a matter of time before he does and everyone starts hating him again because hes good.
and @ken i really dont think the supercross tracks now can hold up for 20 minutes plus 2 to be honest. vegas might but a lot of these tracks get so torn up by mid race everyone hates and complains about them
I dont know why or how everyone can complain so much about the track at Houston. We saw probably two of the most exciting races there has been in years.
Also lap times actually above the 50 sec mark. What more do you all want?
As for Reed, if he doesnt win he is always gonna ***** about the track. Especially now that his bike is good and its on his shoulders to perform.
Let the riders design some tracks again!!!
Great read, best new column...love it!