Ask Ping!
Friday, January 25, 2013 | 9:05 AMPing,
What are your thoughts on the L&Mc team folding up shop three races into this season? For that matter, JDR/KTM and Jeff Ward Racing? Teams are disappearing fast!
Roger B
Portland
Roger,We knew about this before the season started so it shouldn’t be a complete shock. Some people want to blast Larry Brooks for this since he has been involved with several teams that have gone under. I don’t know enough about the specifics to blame anybody but I have a point of view on race teams. I basically put teams into one of two categories: There are teams run by companies who are promoting a product and teams run by those who aren’t. Teams that have longevity are those who use the team as a marketing tool to help promote and sell their products. Teams like Factory Connection/Honda, Pro Circuit/Kawasaki and TLD/Honda have products they are selling. They can move marketing budgets around and make the bottom line right by doing so. The money they are spending is justified as promotion.
Teams like Jeff Ward Racing, JDR/KTM and L&Mc Racing don’t have a product to sell to consumers. They are run by an enthusiast who wants to run a race team and be involved in the sport and they rely completely on outside sponsorship dollars for funding. While that is commendable it can end badly if the team loses money year after year. Very few wealthy people will continue to lose money over and over. I hope all the riders, mechanics and crew from these teams find good homes. There are some talented people who will be out of work and we can only hope they land somewhere.
PING
Pinger,
You’ve made a few funnies on Twitter about James Stewart’s knee but I wonder if he will really ride the whole season out with a torn ACL? You think he can? Man, it sucks seeing him ride around at 80% out there.
L.T.
Dear LT,First of all, the jokes I made were before he came out and said he tore his ACL. Injuries like that aren’t funny and I was just having some fun with the fact that he wouldn’t tell the media what was going on. I’ve blown some knees out and all I can tell you is that I couldn’t ride without them. There are some guys who rode their whole careers without that ligament but every time I stuck my leg out in a turn it felt like I was holding up a folding lawn chair with a bad locking mechanism. I learned the best thing I could do was get it fixed right away before it shifted around and damaged the meniscus even more. Even if James can deal with the pain and discomfort of having an unstable joint I doubt he’ll be content to ride around in eighth place all year. I don’t see him going all the way to Vegas like this. The sad part is that if he waits a few more weeks and then gets it fixed he will be out for the summer too. Maybe we’ll get another season of Bubba’s World?
PING
Dear Mr. Pingree,
After watching Anaheim 2 and reading up on Kevin Windham’s retirement, it seemed like a common theme centered not only upon deciding when it is appropriate to hang up the boots, but also what future awaits a post-race career. Talk ranged from his involvement with Planet Fitness to even possibly joining in with television race commentary.
And then it hit me. Isn't it true that we fans love him not only for his riding but also his personality? Friendly, honest, approachable.
Enter Kevin Windham's People Skills School for the Professional Racer. Not only would the fans benefit as we would have more likable racers and better interviews, but the riders would benefit in the long term as well. Boring Villopoto interview? Boom! Interesting interview. Brilliant, huh?
Thanks,
Alex
This is how I remember K-Dub… he was a bad man way back in 1997.
While we will certainly miss Kevin on the track I don’t think there is going to be a problem for him to find work within this industry. He has built friendships in this sport by being genuine, honest and friendly with everyone in the paddock. He’s the same way with the fans, for that matter. I think the bigger question, and one that will be more difficult to answer is…what does he want to do? Once he figures that out he’ll be just fine. Kevin Windham’s People Skills School for Dirt Bikers? Sound good to me.
PING
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Good answers David.
As predicted by me on 12/24/12 and now by Ping....Bubba will not finish. Im not a Bubba hater but the glory days are gone for him. Wish he would be like KW or RC and just do his best with no excuses even if its not first. Suzuki put all their factory eggs in one bad basket.
It's Bush's fault teams are folding. Obama is still tring to fix it.
Yes, that's the nastiest whip. Ever.
J.S. Is the only rider that can make the most money and do the least work for it year after year ...He is going to play this for as long as He can... Then he will pull out to get it fixed and skip outdoors...... Hes got it all planed out ... This is nothing new, he does this every year.... Hes got the "System " all figured out....... what a waste.
haha yeah its bush' s fault thats it. that is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. obama is killing this country single handedly. ping hit the cause and effect right on the head
DEFINITELY NASTIEST
Since Ping is tough on bad grammar in the questions, I can't help it ....
"He has been built friendships ......"
my mom warned me if i married a hooker that, sure, i'd be happy for a while but then things would go badly.. and now Kevin Windham retires
my mom is always right
Funniest quote from Ping "I’ve blown some knees out". haaaaa
I should have pointed out that I was being sarcastic with the Bush comment.
The third question made me think of something that I and some friends have noticed over the years. The prejudice a fan has towards racers and racers have towards fans. This is not true in all cases but, can be found to have some truth to it as all prejudices do. Some, not all, fans think riders don't work hard, had everything handed to them, maybe are not so bright and if a rider is getting poor results he just needs to try harder. On the other hand, some, not all, riders seem to think all fans either suck at riding or don't ride at all, have no clue because they haven't been there done that, are unemployed losers squirreled away in mommy's basement smoking bath salts or are rich kids that went to college. I myself have been guilty of this and try hard not be that way. The riders and fans have a symbiotic relationship. Without one the other won't last. As fans we need to respect the riders for what they do and racers should respect even the biggest of dumbass fans. Can't we all just get along?
Said it before, and I'll say it again.....SX has turned MX into a circus act, and circus acts dont last!!! Before we know it, we'll have 8-10 riders putting on a "Monster Truck" style show... And I'm not trying to take anything from the riders, they are a great talent. I just think a lot of money and time is being wasted on SX....Lets go outdoors where motocross belongs!!!
If Feld does not start revenue sharing, Super Cross will be the next WWF. When that happens, the winners will be chosen, and the best/fastest bikes will go the the riders they want to win. Teams need to be reimbursed for showing up, and making it to the main event. The same thing needs to happen for Outdoors! These business models are only good for the promoters, not the teams, or the racers.
Actually It IS bush's fualt our economy is screwed as he clearly bankrupted us on a war we shouldn't have been in over black gold. Obama may be making decisions that you dont agree with but do you think anyone else would be able to do any better? The answer is No.... but to most of the right wingers on this site the answer is yes because repubs can do no wrong... which is sad.
The last GOOD president we had was ousted over afterhour activities with his chubby intern..... anyone remember the 90's? Good times.... No one was broke and everyone had a job. However, If Obama was WHITE (yea I said it.. bite me!) and a republican no one would say a word no matter what decision he makes.
Go ahead and flame me... It will just prove your one of the many mindless sheep.
Chuck H. From Oklahoma..... Yea.. the RED state.
Yes Clinton was a good leader. But stop blaming Bush and letting our current President off of the hook. He is all about takers and could care less about those who bust their ass (or makers).
January 3rd, 2007 was the day the Democrats took over the Senate and the Congress:
At the time:
The DOW Jones closed at 12,621.77
The GDP for the previous quarter was 3.5%
The Unemployment rate was 4.6%
George Bush's Economic policies SET A RECORD of 52 STRAIGHT MONTHS of JOB CREATION!
Remember the day...
January 3rd, 2007 was the day that Barney Frank took over the House Financial Services Committee and Chris Dodd took over the Senate Banking Committee.
The economic meltdown that happened 15 months later was in what part of the economy?
BANKING AND FINANCIAL SERVICES!!!
THANK YOU DEMOCRATS for taking us from 13,000 DOW, 3.5 GDP and 4.6% Unemployment... to this CRISIS by (among MANY other things) dumping 5-6 TRILLION Dollars of toxic loans on the economy from YOUR Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac ! (BTW: Bush asked Congress 17 TIMES to stop Fannie & Freddie - starting in 2001 because it was Financially risky for the US economy):
And who took the THIRD highest pay-off from Fannie Mae AND Freddie Mac????
OBAMA
And who fought against reform of Fannie and Freddie???
The HYPOCRITE in Chief Obama
Thank you those who voted again for him. Enjoy your f'd up healthcare and handouts!
James is just waiting for the freestyle part of the season.
I think RacerX should start deleting all political posts, as they don't belong here. It's mother f-in god damn SX you f-in tools!!AAAAAAARRRGGHHH!!!
@maniacsXtrem - well said!
@Laker23 - funny that you blame Democrats for the Economic meltdown. Biased much? Narrow minded people are whats killing this country. And of course some bad policies (handouts) that have been around for a long time, which neither president will ever get rid of. Have a nice day
@Endo45: I'm confused by why people like you are always dissing Stewie for making excuses. I can't remember a time James Stewart had made an excuse for his lack of performance. If having a torn ACL is an "excuse", perhaps you've been fortunate enough to have never had one. But I doubt you have missed the comments by other pros (Ping included in this article) about how difficult it is to ride with one. Was it an "excuse" when both Villopoto & Reed ended their seasons with torn ACL's last year?
And as far as political comments are concerned, perhaps you guys are confused and somehow got on the wrong website. Nobody, and I'm pretty sure that means NOBODY wants to hear your political rants (either right or left wing) on this site.
Clinton a good president lol! It was his policies and lack of action that led to 911 attacks. Just like a lefty, never look at the big picture.
Blame the Democrats anf the Republicans still have control of the House?? What an idiot.. Everyone knows the economy hit the toilet under Bush and continued to spiral for 2 years after.. Anyone who knows how the economy works knows it takes time for change.. Bush had a huge advantage because of how great the economy was when Clinton left, it took Bush 8 years to really destroy it by cutting taxes on Billionaires and entering two wars and putting them on a credit card.. Spend like crazy and have no income to cover expenses.. That is what started the mess..And Republicans still obstruct and block everything Obama wants to do to try and improve.. EXAMPLE. In August the Republicans voted down the "Jobs for Veterans Act" to help retrain vets returning from Iraq and Afghanastan.. Republicans voted it down,, one Congressman was overheard saying "We cant let this happen under Obamas watch" In other words not letting him get some credit before the election, "obstructionist" putting politics ahead of our vets... And secondly, the ACT was written by 4 Republicans, and those 4 even voted against it, so Obama wouldnt get credit for it before the election.. That is what we have been dealing with, politics instead of them trying to improve our Nation..
Bruce Bartlett--Reagans senior economic advisor said himself the current Repub. Party is out of touch, and is "Hiding in a Fox News cocoon" that was Reagon senior economic advisor s words,, if anyone is a true conservative he is, he even said the Republican Party of today is borderline crazy.. That should tell some people something if he says this.. He writes for the American Conservative, you can read the column online on a page called "Reason and Politics" if anyone of you Right wing die-hards wish too.. I vote for the candidate, not the party myself.. And the Republican Party hasnt had much in the form of quality candidates lately.. Heck Romney couldnt even win his home state, that should speak volumns..
@please dont hate--Really?????? You blame Clinton for 9-11??? hahahahahahaha!!! Thats a good one, he ordered attacks on Al-Qaidia bases and was assailed by the Repubs. claiming "wag the dog" trying to get people off his affair with Monica..So he stopped.. He warned Bush a dozen times about Osama Bin Laden during the Presidential change of power, and every time Bush just kept asking what he had on Saddam Hussain, its the only thing Bush had in his mind, a reason to attack Saddam... weapons of mass destruction remember.... Bush was warned several times about Bin Laden--he ignored the warnings and concentrated on Saddam..And invaded Iraq later on for NOTHING...
If you want to blame the economy on Bush's war in Iraq, what about Obama's war in Afghanistan?
@ManiacsXtreme--You are right... If Obama was white and a Republican, the guys on here blaming him wouldnt be saying nothing...
WTF Ping didn't even mention politics in any of his answers this week. Go to cnn.com and shout in the wind over there.
Obamas war in Afghanastan?? REALLY???? Its Obamas war?? They attacked the USA and harbored the ones who orchestrated the 9-11 attacks, and Bush went to war with them, and now its Obamas war in Afghanastan?? What rock did you crawl out from under adamact1 ???
Well put Laker23! So sick of all the bleeding heart liberals. Obozo is the worst president in history! His socialistic, redistribution-of-wealth ideologies are ruining this country. It's not the government's job to legislate morality. @Maniac...stop with the race card already.....it's such an old, lethargic way to argue. Let's just take a look at the last four years:
1) Solyndra
2) Benghazi
3) High gas prices
4) High unemployment
5) Border control problems
6) Sued the state of Arizona
7) Fast and Furious
8) Massive debt=16.5 Trillion
9) Massive deficit=spending 1.5 trillion $ a year.
10) 49 Million on food stamps
11) Uncle Joe Biden=biggest douchebag moron of the century
12) Libya
13) Syria
Need I go on? Oblamer is the worst president in history!
Actually, for you politically challenged...it was Bill Clintons policies that created the mortgage collapse that ultimately created the economy.
@misoheye - agreed - I'm with you, man! (I was thinking the same thing but would have taken 3 paragraphs to nicely state the same thing you did). This is like trying to put Speed TV on and you only can pick up CNN and Fox News!
@Coley1x...I agree. I just don't care for Supercross all that much. For me, the best thing about is that it fills in the void when there are no outdoor nationals going on. And the live tv coverage is awesome, except for all the stupid Progressive Insurance commercials. But that's what a DVR is for. I still say the perfect sponsor for the Supercross series would be Directv.
you guys really need to get a clue about the economy and learn about the federal reserve and the effect of central banks.
there are a lot of posters on here that like to post a bunch of political bs because they are well aware that they are dependent upon there establishment day job so they can afford their expensive toys and comfort living.
@therealmofo,
The DEMS controlled the house for the first two years of Obozo's presidency and did nothing. And talk about spending? Owebama has spent more money in his first four years than all the other presidents combined. You can't spend more than you take in and O-blow-me doesn't have any plans to stop.
I like turtles!
@ therealmofo, stop drinking the coolaid dude! It will have irrepairable long term effects.
mgwest949-I respect riders with heart. I like bubba and have followed him for years. Just want him to respect guys that beat him and say straight up, they were better today. If u havent heard him make excuses, you must be new to the game. He has more excuses than the other guys put together. Its always the bike, my finger, the photographer, blah, blah. Dont matter....most folks see whats up.
Bush was handed Clintons house of cards
JimM
Pala374
If you guys can quit b!tch!ng about politics, there is a "Inside the Outdoors" marathon going on Fuel right now..
@chainlube--dont forget Bush burned through a Budget surplus before he started showing deficit... 236 Billion surplus--projected to grow to 5.6 trillion Bush burnt through it all..
Politics realy suck.......
@therealmofo - Mogadishu. Look it up.
Or should I say Black hawk Down.
At this point Bubba is screwed from a PR standpoint
People will yap about his finishes on one leg and then yap when the kmee blows out
When I think of JS I picture his epic battles / crashes with the GOAT
JimM
Pala374
i dots. Too stupid to spell idiots.
Thanks BD200
Inside the Outdoor's and the TGO rock.!
JimM
Pala374
You guys should start a race team that sells Bull$it ..
All this political talk assumes that presidents and politicians are ACTUALLY in control of things.
That said, I can't see Windham in the booth - I think he wants to spend more time with family and such. Get away from the constant travel.
http://www.infowars.com
Bubba will never be without funding. He gets Obama bucks.
I think he should continue to ride with his knee as-is. He needs to repair his reputation as a quitter who won't ride unless everything is exactly perfect. Forget the meniscus. Meniscus, schmeniscus. Nobody out there feels 100%, ever! Just ride, son! You can't blame your results on Bush.
First of all, if anyone thinks we shouldn't have gone to war over 9-11, you all are myopic. The architects of 9-11 along with their coconspirators that were spread throughout the middle east needed to pay....big time. Secondly BD200, granted, there was a budget surplus of 236 billion when Clinton left office, but that is peanuts compared to Obama's spending. Oh yeah, I forgot to add these to the list of Obama's first term accomplishments:
14) Failed stimulus
15) GM=Government Motors=fail
16) Obamacare=unconstitutional
PS...maybe if O-Phuc-Up didn't tax the sh/t out of everyone, then maybe some of these race teams could afford to sponsor more riders. If you guys have been paying attention to the news, everyone is fleeing Cali for states with lower taxes.....(a la Phil Mickelson). When the ass hats who run California discover that there is no more tax revenue, maybe they will realize that socialism doesn't work!
+ all those politicians ride 4 strokes,all of them!
lets see , what to talk about.....Rosie O'donalds a hole bleaching or politics.....hmmm its a toss up......go to the felon Rush limbergers beans and oxycontin powered site to talk that SH*T......Politics=the entertainment division of big business....Havoc is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't....and it almost doesn't matter cause the alpha dog is done playin...RV1...tuff blocks must pay.......Bams Honda will return with Full squirell.or Full ram button......Love to see 41 get a win.....somebody needs to pi*s 22 off..that normally gets him goin...i gave up ever counting him out....#5 stop the cnc and the cad and get on the phone to WP,,,,,.....now get back to fixing western civilization.......Kdub thanks again..it was nice to see how a bike should truly be ridden at speed....
W took over during a recession and the dot com crash.
Is this a political website? It didnt look like one.
@preston thats right you did, just because I am not a Stewart as$ kisser dont be so quick to judge next time..
@chainlube, the GM bailout is going amazingly well..
@stimulus was a dumb idea, but you dont seem to have a complaint about the ones Bush did.. And how did Bush bailouit of the bamks turn out there ????
@I dont see a darn thing wrong with the richest country in the world having health insurance for everyone..we have over 2 million uninsured children in this country.. What is wrong with helping the less fortunate??
All you Republicans who cry about your tax money going to help the less fortunate, then dont say your political party is built on Christian beliefs..
Well, here we go again... Politocross Friday.
How easy is it for so many to find themselves loosing focus, going over the bars and right through the Tough Blocks at the mere mention of either the current or preceding two Presidents of this great country. Weeeeeeak. Just like everybody not on the podium, there are always the same old excuses and plenty of blaming too.
Your mental toughness is lacking, fellas. You just can't stay away from that refrigerator, the junk food vending machine, the drive through cheesy fries, 750 calorie burgers and sugar/carb loaded drinks and, oh yeah, the hostile comments about administrations past and present... can you? Probably the same bunch that is unable to find a few hours out of the 168 we get every week to make it to the gym, to get on the road bike or to get out there on the practice track and do an extra moto...?
Naaah; too much work. But I'll get back on track soon... It's still January, right? Maybe tomorrow... maybe next week. Eventually though... promise. How pathetic. The Election is over but still, the real topics of this blog (and many of the blogs here on Racer X) get punted over the berm by the meaningless ramblings of disgruntled voters, 'right' or 'left'. Let it go, guys. Even you must be bored by your own repetitive, asylum comments by now.
With 2 ACL repairs on both knees, I can confidently say (like many of you), each knee injury can be different depending on many variables. Of course you can try the preventative way but even in a top-shelf brace, a bad knee is only a 'dab' away from further damage. And then there's that mental thing... wondering about it before and during the moto... Even at James' top 1% skill level, it would be easy to mess it up further.
Someone mentioned him riding at about 80%...? Probably a pretty accurate assessment knowing how James can twist that throttle and how he's been fighting for 6-10th in the Mains lately. This really sucks for him- and all fans. It's just d@mn interesting when the #7 is on the starting line. But, I don't think you need to have a bum knee to understand that the unfortunate reality is that the FMOTP's year is really over.
Seems like the fan-favorite Kevin Windham, with his obvious cred & skills off the track, could easily attract Blue-chip level sponsors and put together a helluva team if that is appealing to him. It will be interesting to see how far he might be thinking outside the box and what he does in the next couple of years.
I could easily imagine David Bailey (still the all time best in the booth and an all-time favorite to watch on the track in his day) and Windham calling races. Seems like these guys together with... Jason Weigandt...? Now that..., that might be a surprisingly good balance in the booth.
from here on out everyone considering starting a new team should think about what ping said and have a product to promote and sell its simple business and lets not forget tax write offs
even when a rich guy backs a team Its more than likely to report losses at the end of the year and they are only gonna do that for so long
Wait..this IS RacerX right?ASK Pingaling a question right?He answered them.How did a douche bag for a President (current)and politics get involved?VITAL knockoffs here?LOL.
Keep the politics for another page.
This is our sport of SX sex and MX
Just the fact that all you non-poli-sci majors believe a president is in control of the economy indicates you've bought into the belief that the president actually has control. In actuality America's political structure has numerous checks and balances in order to minimize corruption and maximize democracy... this results in power being spread across government branches. There is no single blameworthy person or group. Both parties blame societal problems on each other in order to garner support to retain and attract voters.
I wish it was as simple as blaming one president or another, but simplicity breed misunderstanding.
Hate to see this site turn into another NRA thing ... LOL !
"All you Republicans who cry about your tax money going to help the less fortunate, then dont say your political party is built on Christian beliefs.."
Since when is it's the Governments right or job to decide what Charities my hard earned money goes to??
How did Obama's Solyndra bail out he was so proud of go?!
@please don't hate us
Stop commenting on this site please.
This site is about Motocross not politics.
Quit bringing up stuff that has nothing to do with moto. Idiot.
@persona what are you talkin about!?!? Obama stole Short's ride! lol /sacrcasm
This country gives an equal opportunity to EVERYONE!!! Don't feed me BS about less fortunate or poor! You are what you want to be. If you are lazy, want to sit on your arse all day, get a cane. Become a welfare rat! Collect few checks from people like us! If you want to get somewhere, get a job, go to school, learn a trade!!! It's that effin easy. Don't feed me any of that poor or unfortunate crap! I wish freakin welfare and Medicaid would shut down. We would live much better, believe me.
What makes this country one of a kind is that everyone has equal opportunity! Yet we have millions of lazy f$$ks that drag us down, sucking money out of our hard working families! Why are wealthy people paying more taxes??? Are they wealthy because they sat all day watching Jerry springer??? They went and learned, worked hard with their hands and or brains. IMO, tax bracket should be the same for everyone!
Need to cool off!!! Lol
Can't wait for Saturday !
Go RV! Go trey! DM CR and everybody!
i like turtles , too.
I love turtles.
Agreed, turtles kick ass!
i thought this is where people comment about motorcycles and racing. clearly, i am mistaken.
The best ass, is turtle ass. I love the political talk. It shows me how many ill-informed posters share my interest in MX. White black, socialism is socialism. suck-it!
There was no budget surplus during the Clinton years, its called smoke and mirrors. The included SS, and other revenue in the figures.
Its very east to see, each year that Clinton was president, the NATIONAL DEBT increased. You can look on the treasury website. If the debt increases, there cant be a surplus.. The NY TIMES actually did a story on it.
http://finance.townhall.com/columnists/craigsteiner/2011/08/22/the_clinton_surplus_myth/page/full/
the republican ideology really has little to do with conservatism, its kinda two different entities. You say christian.. and giving to the poor? Well, unlike Democrats that think everyone is uncapable of doing for themselves, and wont take responbility for a damn thing.. republicans believe that if you get off your ass you can do something with your life. YOu wont know until you try.. and most people are too lazy to try when its given to them
Ping, great read. Nice job this week. I, too, love turtles. You political posters need to take that junk to Yahoo.
Turtles? Just turtles? I personally like snapping turtles!
Here you go People, this is why i like snapping turtles!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYcOaYcMCOU
I have a question for Ping.
Ping, do you pong?
Do you guys know that JS7 and RV1 are 3 inches taller then Ping? On TV these guys look normal height. If you see them in person they look like 4th graders.
Oh man' blue lint I'm am laughing my ass off at your comment. Good way to break ice.. like asking someone what the color blue tastes like.
Motocross for midgets.
What would Michael Jordan look like out there on a bike?
for god's sake, I'm gonna quit reading racerx articles & comments because of all this political crap. I come here to ESCAPE from that stuff! For the love of GOD, make it stop!
RacerX, can't you hire some squid to monitor this stuff and delete all the political rants? Hell, start a donation drive to fund it, I'll chip in a few bucks!
We all love MX & SX and hate to see teams fail due to the crappy economy.
The political discussion is relevant because we are all affected by high unemployment, poor job prospects, inflation & the rising cost of racing ie:intial purchase price, maintenance, high fuel costs,etc.)
Instead of arguing over Republican or Democrat- They are 2 sides of the same coin designed to divide us. Our representatives only represent corporations with money.
My suggestions
1- Eliminate lobbists - Stop the bribery
2- Eliminate unlimited political contributions - All elections publicly funded.
3- Research "The Federal Reserve" - They are not federal or part of the Gov., instead owned by international bankers. They alone cause ALL recessions, depressions & boom times. When credit is available = expansion, when they pull the plug = unemployment, failing businesses, foreclosures.
This has been going on since 1913 when the FED started- Do your research.
4- Require Feld to pay realistic purses in SX. Paying 150K purse would only be about $3 of every ticket sold. 20th place in main should pay min $1000.
5- Allow 250 2 strokes to compete in 250 class, more interesting & lower cost.
6- Hire marketing firm to bring in outside sponsors.
Hope Short finds a good time to ride for. And JDR guys get picked up too!
wow...It's obvious who listens to Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, and Glen Beck in this thread...and there is a reason that these people are called "ditto heads"....because when you can't think for yourself....you really need someone to do your thinking for you..amusing