by Chase Stallo
Sign of the Lap Times: Indy
Tuesday, March 19, 2013 | 3:20 PM
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PrintTake a deep dive inside the lap charts with this week's Sign of the Lap Times.
450SX Class
| Lap Rank | Finish | Best Lap | In Lap | Avg Lap Time | Rider |
| 1 | 1 |
50.902 |
6 |
52.117 |
Ryan Villopoto |
| 2 | 2 |
50.991 |
6 |
52.391 |
Ryan Dungey |
| 3 | 3 |
51.242 |
2 |
52.692 |
James Stewart |
| 4 | 4 |
51.293 |
5 |
53.039 |
Davi Millsaps |
| 5 | 6 |
51.552 |
6 |
53.722 |
Chad Reed |
| 6 |
7 |
52.086 |
5 |
54.328 |
Andrew Short |
| 7 | 9 |
52.139 |
6 |
53.739 |
Eli Tomac |
| 8 |
5 |
52.165 |
6 |
53.607 |
Justin Barcia |
| 9 | 8 |
52.356 |
6 |
54.481 |
Matt Goerke |
| 10 | 11 |
52.877 |
5 |
54.266 |
Broc Tickle |
| 11 | 12 |
53.371 |
5 |
55.790 |
Josh Hill |
| 12 | 10 |
53.810 |
9 |
54.896 |
Weston Peick |
| 13 | 13 |
53.979 |
7 |
56.429 |
Justin Brayton |
| 14 | 19 |
54.180 |
2 |
54.180 |
Trey Canard |
| 15 | 14 |
54.673 |
5 |
58.007 |
Phil Nicoletti |
| 16 | 17 |
54.735 |
9 |
56.811 |
Mike Alessi |
| 17 | 16 |
54.789 |
4 |
57.511 |
Justin Sipes |
| 18 | 15 |
54.857 |
7 |
58.747 |
Kyle Partridge |
| 19 | 18 |
55.437 |
5 |
56.266 |
Bobby Kiniry |
| 20 | 20 |
57.856 |
2 |
57.856 |
Jake Weimer |
450SX
- For the third consecutive week, Monster Energy Kawasaki’s Ryan Villopoto would set the fastest lap of the night with a 50.902 on lap 6. Yes, he also won all three of those races.
- Red Bull KTM’s Ryan Dungey was the only rider other than Villopoto to set a lap under 51 seconds—Dungey set a 50.991 on lap 6.
- Villopoto and Dungey set a scorching pace in Indy. Both riders had only three laps over 52 seconds.
- Yoshimura Suzuki’s James Stewart was on fire early, setting four of his first five laps under 52 seconds before tipping over in the off-camber corner.
- Villopoto’s average lap time (52.117) was faster than GEICO Honda’s Eli Tomac’s fastest lap time, 52.139, which ranked seventh in 450SX.
- The latest fastest lap time of the night belonged to Weston Peick and Mike Alessi, who both put down their best on lap 9. Peick’s 53.810 would best Alessi’s 54.735.
Comparison
Ryan Villopoto vs. Ryan Dungey
As the rounds begin to dwindle and the window for a championship begins to close, the intensity begins to rise. Ryan Villopoto and Ryan Dungey knew this going into round 11 of 17 in Indianapolis, which led to a torrid pace from the title contenders. Let’s look at the lap times to see how the drama unfolded.
| Lap | Ryan Villopoto | Ryan Dungey |
| 2 | 52.652 | 53.175 |
| 3 | 51.727 | 52.109 |
| 4 | 53.412 | 52.391 |
| 5 | 51.611 | 51.664 |
| 6 | 50.902 | 50.991 |
| 7 | 52.249 | 52.126 |
| 8 | 51.438 | 51.39 |
| 9 | 51.682 | 51.437 |
| 10 | 51.399 | 51.979 |
| Avg | 51.896 | 51.918 |
| 11 | 51.935 | 51.534 |
| 12 | 51.747 | 52.337 |
| 13 | 51.85 | 52.318 |
| 14 | 52.32 | 52.11 |
| 15 | 52.472 | 52.137 |
| 16 | 53.121 | 52.454 |
| 17 | 52.186 | 52.416 |
| 18 | 51.915 | 52.515 |
| 19 | 52.611 | 55.083 |
| 20 | 53.005 | 55.268 |
| Avg | 52.316 | 52.817 |
During laps 2-10, the two were matching each other step for step. Villopoto would lay down a scorcher, only to have Dungey match his pace. The same could be said for the second half (laps 11-20) as well, expect for laps 19 and 20, when Dungey had a Tuff Block kicked out in front of him, dramatically slowing his pace. There’s no denying the pace set down the stretch was unprecedented. Now with only six rounds remaining, will the pace continue to rise?
Ryan Villopoto set the fastest lap of the night in Indy.
Andrew Fredrickson photo
250SX Class
| Lap Rank | Finish | Best Lap | In Lap | Avg Lap Time | Rider |
| 1 | 1 |
52.509 |
11 |
53.986 |
Marvin Musquin |
| 2 | 9 |
53.201 |
3 |
54.174 |
Blake Wharton |
| 3 | 3 |
53.366 |
8 |
54.306 |
Wil Hahn |
| 4 | 4 |
53.626 |
5 |
55.072 |
AJ Catanzaro |
| 5 |
20 |
53.770 |
7 |
56.205 |
Jeremy Martin |
| 6 | 2 |
53.886 |
7 |
54.727 |
Kyle Peters |
| 7 |
8 |
54.016 |
8 |
55.269 |
Gavin Faith |
| 8 | 5 |
54.187 |
11 |
55.171 |
Justin Hill |
| 9 | 13 |
54.589 |
10 |
56.161 |
Zach Bell |
| 10 | 18 |
54.656 |
2 |
58.747 |
Jackson Richardson |
| 11 | 6 |
54.753 |
7 |
55.823 |
Vince Friese |
| 12 | 16 |
54.754 |
3 |
56.211 |
Cole Thompson |
| 13 | 7 |
54.813 | 6 |
55.986 |
Mitchell Olbenburg |
| 14 | 19 | 54.865 | 5 | 56.107 | Lance Vincent |
| 15 | 10 |
55.015 |
13 |
56.268 |
PJ Larsen |
| 16 | 14 |
55.199 |
6 |
57.657 |
Zack Freeberg |
| 17 | 12 |
55.223 |
4 |
56.919 |
Jimmy Decotis |
| 18 | 17 |
55.598 |
3 |
57.470 |
Daniel Herrlein |
| 19 | 15 |
55.821 |
6 |
57.617 |
Levi Kilbarger |
| 20 | 11 |
56.077 |
9 |
56.944 |
Steven Clarke |
250SX
- For the first time all season, Red Bull KTM’s Marvin Musquin set the fastest lap of 250SX with a 52.509 on lap 11.
- After setting his fastest lap of the night on lap 8, GEICO Honda’s Wil Hahn would set five of the next seven laps under 54 seconds.
- Once clear of traffic, Musquin went on a tear during laps 9-14, setting all of his laps under 54 seconds.
- Rockstar Energy Racing’s Blake Wharton separated himself from the field early by setting his first six laps under 54 seconds.
- AG Motorsports’ Kyle Peters set his first twelve laps under 55 seconds en route to his first career podium.
- AJ Catanzaro, who also had a career night, set eight of his first nine laps under 55 seconds.
- The latest fastest lap of the night belonged to Eleven10 Mods Yamaha’s PJ Larsen. The newest member of the team would throw down a 55.015 on lap 13.
Comparison
Marvin Musquin vs. AJ Catanzaro, Kyle Peters & Blake Wharton
Mavin Musquin’s unparalleled performance in Indy was one for the record books. From last in the first turn to first in the last, Musquin had to maneuver past nineteen other riders en route to his second consecutive win. Let’s look at laps 8-14 (when Musquin moved from fourth to first) and compare Musquin’s times versus the times of Kyle Peters (second), AJ Catanzaro (third) and Blake Wharton (first).
| Lap | Marvin Musquin | Kyle Peters | AJ Catanzaro | Blake Wharton |
| 8 | 54.109 | 54.719 | 54.454 | 54.076 |
| 9 | 52.833 | 54.788 | 54.552 | 55.278 |
| 10 | 53.349 | 54.545 | 54.656 | 54.139 |
| 11 | 52.509 | 54.342 | 55.49 | 54.257 |
| 12 | 52.523 | 54.626 | 55.313 | 55.491 |
| 13 | 52.986 | 54.744 | 55.072 | 54.469 |
| 14 | 53.388 | 56.788 | 57.181 | 55.82 |
| Avg | 53.099 | 54.936 | 55.245 | 54.79 |
Clearly, Musquin was on another level, as the lap chart shows. He was over one second faster than Wharton during the span and nearly two seconds faster than Peters. While St. Patrick's Day weekend brought some luck of the Irish to this Frenchman, he put himself in position to capitalize by going really, really fast.
Musquin set the fastest lap of the night in 250SX.
Andrew Fredrickson photo
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These times reflect how close and good the racing was tonight in the 450 class. And how Musquin dug deep to keep charging to win the 250 class. He wouldn't of caught
Wharton but was closing in fast. Felt bad for Wharton for crashing and then finding out
AMA took a couple of points for track re-entry issue. Great racing and the dirt was very
moist in most areas except in the sand to clay transitions. Lots of crashes in these areas. Overall a good race...
rv will win this championship no doubt theres no way in hell rd its going to caught AND PASS rv as always hes thinking or counting on bad luck from rv thats the only way he has won championships with non of the fast guys in
@alezx9 ,, Thats true,, but you can't win championships while you are on the couch injured, eating potato chips. Sometimes, being smarter, is better than being faster..
I know SX is not really Alessi's thing, but man,, whats going on with him?
you are rigth imxmofo i think alessi had a problem with his rear brake
I guess this finally solves the arguement that Stewart "had everyone covered"... Because he didnt.. while he looked good early, he just didnt carry that speed the entire moto..--and there where a couple guys saying Dungey had RV too, but it proves that was false also.. RV was just faster in Indy.. Toronto may be a different story. Stew might run away with it, or Dungey may get a holeshot and be gone.. Who knows.. But in Indy it wasnt the case..
Musquin might have turned some faster laps late, but he wasnt catching Wharton, Wharton just threw it away on the last lap, and Musquin got a gift..
Lot of guys had their bast lap on lap 6......JS7 goofed on lap #7 had had a 1:04 on that lap...yuck!
@alezx9,, That could be, but still, Alessi's best lap was almost 4 seconds off RV's.. 4 seconds in one lap? Holy moly man..
@therealmofo - Definately not "covered"...dudes were all really close in time..But If you check the lap by lap charts, Stewart was a c-hair quicker those first 6-7 laps until he stalled his yellow pony...kind of a bummer..hard to say what would happen if that didnt occur..but it did....So who knows if he had a little more to push or if they all would have stayed as is.....Dungey made up time the most when RV lapped Sipes in the off camber where Stewie stalled....after that RV inched it out again..Dungey didnt have RV covered either....
@KilloMoto,, You're right, RD did not have RV covered. But I tell yuo what, thats the best I have seen RD ride all year.
..forgot to add that Sipes messed RV up a little in that corner...
Villopoto’s average lap time (52.117) was faster than GEICO Honda’s Eli Tomac’s fastest lap time, 52.139, which ranked seventh in 450SX.
.WOW, The Ryan's are ON IT!!
Indeed realMofo... Dungey was on it and was aggressive...he has to be...re-watching the race and Dungey had a couple close calls..almost got kicked over the bars on that sand jump and he is just really lucky he and Milsaps didnt go down over that hump jump when they came together....that was a little sketchy...Dungey was pushing his limits for sure and he still came up short..But Id rather see that from him then playing around in 5th...
It was close between the Ryans, I don't think either had the other covered, as the lap time suggest...they were both running full out..RV's fastest lap was not a half second faster than Dungey, it was a few hundredths of a second faster.. the first half of the race they were not separated by seconds, it was mere hundredths of a sec difference. The tough block changed the final number to a half a second difference, but until then it was still hundredths of a second between the Ryans. That is incredible, to be that evenly matched in speed lap after lap.....RV Fans and RD Fans have a lot to be proud of....Great Racing by Both!!! Going forward into Krunch Time, I only hope we get to see the same....
NO THIS DOESN'T PUT TO REST ANYTHING. Why would Stewart get up from a tip over 15sec down and try to catch RV?? Why?? What's in it for him besides pride? Give me a break, this is getting stupid.
Stewart didn't have to reel off a 51 because he was pulling away for Christ sake. Are you that thick? If RV caught Stewart you don't think he has a little more to give?? The Answer is that nobody really knows except for speculation. And I speculate that Stewart can go every bit as fast as RV all day long if he had do some stupid motivation. Stewart is a classic lazy man that's counting his money and does t seemed to be concerned about winning anymore. This season was his window to rebound, and he missed it. Career over.
A person NEVER loses speed or forgets how to go fast. He loses fitness, confidence and motivation. Stewart should retire if he doesn't want to win anymore. Be happy a white man took back over, lets see if that statement can light a fire under his ass because I wanna see some racing and I'm sick of RV having it easy.
Rick, it do not look like RV had it easy, as RD made him work each lap..just as James has done in other races...RV getting the holeshot has made it easier for him just as it does for whom ever gets it...In a field this deep, with lap times this close, the holie is golden...ask Davi, Barcia, Dungey, Stewart, Villpoto or any of the others...To beat RV you need to start in front of him....
uummmhh Couple of things...@ Rick ...pretty sure things aren't coming easy for RV and two....JS can go as fast as RV but not all day! Have you been paying attention the last few years.....when pushed to ride the edge no-one currently is better than the current Champ.
PS....RV may have crossed the white line first but as the GoPro video shows he was behind 3 or 4 other guys including RD in the first few turns.
@therealmofo, " and Musquin got a gift."
Its people like you that give morons a bad name. The 2 fastest guys (hahn and musquin) lock up with some hay bails in the first left, and start in last place..... plus deano darted-out, and Musquin got the gift? LOL.
Blake and his yellow short bus couldn't hang on, like a 16yo on prom night, he prematurely finished on the last lap.
Marv reeled him in to around a second back, and got what would have been rightfully his if no mishaps happened. Look above at the lap times and let me know if you need help interpreting.
If him and Blake were dead newts even on lap 7, just taking the last 8 laps, Musquin would of beat him by 12 seconds. IN THE LAST 8 LAPS!
... and Musquin got a gift..... LOL
*sorry Farmers! Bales, not bails
@dakat324--Dude I am not cutting on Musquin at all.. He rode amazing, but he wasn not a second back--he was farther.. I was at the race, it wasnt showing them both when Wharton fell, so you dont know.. But Wharton had the win in the bag.. HE GAVE IT AWAY!!!!!
You insulting Wharton and saying he rides a "short bus" shows your mentality.. You obviously are a huge Musquin fan and dont like Wharton, so you are blind.. They WERE NOT dead newts on lap 7 so that is a dumb observation, you can "what if" it too death.. The REALITY is Wharton was comfortable out front, and had it made and Musquin got a gift..Period...
@Rick--RV had it easy?? Wow, Most of the times you seem fairly intellegent, but sometimes you go off the deep end.. I seriously do not think anything is easy on a supercross track.. Just because Stew isnt up there anymore and is in 7th in the standings, doesnt mean anything is easy.. Dungey Barcia, Millsaps, and whole lot of guys want to do everything they can to make it difficult.. And it is..
@dakat324--There is even an entire article here on this site called "WHARTON THROW ONE AWAY"
Maybe you should read it, and get passed your hate for an American--you might learn something..
@realmofo,
I am a fan of the sport, and when man lovers like you come in here and make idiotic comments, I feel like jumping all over it thats all.
Wart-on GIT THE GIFT WHEN DEAN/ MUSQUIN/ HAHN/ BELL were not contenders. I don't care where you were, the ticker times had musky closing in on him between a second to 2 secs. If I'm wrong about that i preemptively apologize about gap time. But not the rest.
Oh, and about the "WHAT IFS" ? You, my smarter than a fifth grader, first made a what if and said "if Wharton didn't go down". Is that not a What If?
SOOOO, I'll reiterate, if Hahn and Musquin weren't tied up on a hay bale, then Wharton would have been 20 or so back, for fun.
PS- @therealmofo, sorry about the big words like "preemptively" and "reiterate", and "hay".
Plain and simple... Wharton took the gift that those guys gave him at the beginning of the race, and gave the gift back at the end..... It's like Fruit Cake at Christmas.
I'm giving praise to Hahn, Musquin, Deano, Bell..... 2 of these guys are American, right? You just hate the none American's then I guess, right?
I live in the 51st State. The shadows of an american city are in my backyard. So don't start waving your flag just yet...
Stewart doesn't want to win anymore?....he went from 7th and 8th place finishes, nursing the tweaked knee when a lot of folks said he would quit... He toughed it out... Won ATL...lead at St Louis and was second... Did pretty good this week leading some of the race and charged back to third in Dungeyesque fashion when most folks say he quits..... Stewart wants to win... More laps lead and just as many wins as Dungey.... So does that mean Dungey doesn't want to win?? James just doesn't try to win when he knows he cannot and end up on the ground......dude wants to win
@rickmatuzio
Holy crap rick! When you started the post with "this is getting stupid", I had no idea it was a hint at what was to follow. Why did James bother doing 52's either after his stall, why bother trying to catch Millsaps? Shoot, why even bother continuing at all? Did he also look over at the flagger and say "I meant to do that" after he stalled?
Then later you add a "person never loses speed or forgets how to go fast". So all the greats we have seen leave the sport only lost motivation and desire? Their athletic ability did not wane? Their speed did not suffer? I'm hoping someone hacked your account because you usually seem to have much clearer thoughts. I think all of this is being driven by a need for someone to beat RV and you think James is the only one capable, problem being he has to try. I can see why that would be frustrating when you think it is all because he is lazy. For the record, James was going all out to get those low 52's late in the race. He wasn't being lazy and in fact rode quite well.
@dakat--more hate from you , wow.. So sad--and one other thing.. The USA doesnt have a 51st state..count the stars on that flag you speak of genious--if you can count that high..
Guys RV did not have it easy and never has, RD was giving him ALL he could handle and you could see it in the race but even more telling, when RV won he rolled his head in relief and gave honor to RD who raced him for all he was worth and had him at his limit on this particular track.
Glad RV won and glad RD was making it exciting and bummed there weren't 5 more guys up there swapping bars with them.
I will say that looking back RV's starts really do give him a edge over RD and RV seems slightly better at the first 2-3 laps as well as passing aggression. Other than that these guys are VERY close in speed and stamina.
I am really missing Reed riding like he knows how- come-on man you can do it !
The rayn's are showing a clear pattern that is still above the next 5 elite guys, we know JS can win but too often messes up. and DM is really riding the best of the rest. I figured by now TC and JB would be hanging with the ryans , but not yet
@realmofo
You literal man-matress! You my friend are two people. I'm convinced. No one person can be that stupid.
I know mite about the states than probably you do. I live in Canada, referred to as "the 51st state" a lot of the time because it is and a close counter part, and very similar. We watch us tv, news, shop there, date your women, buy or bikes, water craft, sleds, you name it.
It's funny, you thought you gas me there! But on par, you didn't. Never have, never will. LOL, gift..... keep posting your ignorance.
*more, not mite
Warton had it won.. MM was about 3.4 sec behind on the last lap. FACT.. @thereal mofo is right. Emig even said it.. Facts are facts..
As far as JS "doesnt want to win anymore" is just flat out ignorance.. He's not in the championship hunt, and when a race win is within his reach, he will do it. There is no sense in pushing the two Ryans just to prove you can beat them, Lets just hope that JS is riding smart to make it to the Outdoors...
What did realmofo have right mofo? That musquin got a gift? Read the above posts from me, and delete realmofo and add mxmofo.
Yes, what you prince lovin mofo's dont understand, is that yes, i agree, if blake did not fall, he would of won. But "if" hahn and musqin didnt get hung up on first turn, he wouldn't off been up front for him to fail in the first place.
RV definitely the fastest out there right now.
Dungey has put himself in a position to win another championship if anything goes south for RV.
Stewart with a good start and a mistake free ride can win races (stating the obvious here). Same for Barcia and Millsaps. Not so sure about Reed.
Bummer for Wharton but I'm happy for Musquin, seems like a hard working kid and I am glad to see things finally going his way.
I think whats being ignored here is that RV controlled the good lines on a very much one lined track....you can't pass if your following...I think RD was doing a great job of keeping RV honest while riding second best lines...RV himself admitted to protecting the inside....excellent ride by both contenders....but the real nod of prowess goes to Dungey
@dakat324,, Well, its all about "what ifs", and that doesnt count when they hand the championship trophy out.
Yes mofo, we have been through it that is why we are at we are we are at in this conversation.
Realmofo said Blake gave it up, in fact, musquin gave it up, and took it back. try to keep up.
Some people still want to discredit JS, and some people want to put him on a pedestal.........to those of you who want to use the "7th in standings" thing as a weapon....let it go.....the guy was injured at the beginning of the year and that is the main reason he is in 7th...period!! No I'm not saying that he would be in 1st, or 2nd, or 3rd....but he might be.....what I am saying is that now that he is coming around, he is one of the only guys who has what it takes to run with RV, if you think otherwise, I think you are foolish. He still has the speed, skill, and everything it takes to get it done......"career over"??? Not hardly........7rth in points right now is the truth, but it is not an indication of the guys potential.......he'll still make some noise!! Count on it!!
Stewart being fast is never an issue, the guy amazing. The issue is when he is fast and competative he crashes a lot. This year he has not been consistently competitive and his crashes have been less. This is my observation as a long time fan of Stewart.
theysaidwhat, I agree to a point, yes he is one of the few that can run with RV, BUT and it is a big but, JS was injured by his own mistake and has been his own worst enemy these last 4 seasons. I think he can and will win on any given night and on some he could leave RV behind. The thing I don't like and wish wasn't true is he has consistently put himself where he is. therefor he is in 7th right now and I say its a shame and constantly wish he could figure consistency out. He took himself out of the nationals last year and SX same the year before etc.
He is at the top in speed and talent in this sport and the guy has incredible heart. I say this not to discredit the man but as a fact of the last 4 seasons. I have always and still do wish him a clean and injury free season. If he does have one the whole picture will change in whatever series he is in- he is that good.
If JS stayed on two wheels one whole season it would be a blood-war between him and RV with RD bringing up the rear, I would give the edge to JS, and I am a RV fan
@Davidl
If, if, if.........
IF Mike Alessi would not get passed after he hole shots he would be one of the greatest. STOP WITH THE IS's.
So it seems "dakat324" agree with me and mxmofo--but throws in some "what ifs" and name calls and say we dont know anything?? What the he!! is that all about?? I guess he isnt smart enough to know that when a rider has a lead like Wharton--you dont really have to charge like Musquin and Hahn had to so they could make it through the pack, I'm pretty sure his mechanic was letting him know every lap how close those guys were.. Wharton very easily had it in the bag.. I feel bad for Blake too..
Just like Hannah said "if" my Aunt had balls she would be my Uncle..
Even Musquin himself says in his Monday Conversation interview.. "Its really sad for him, he had the win for sure".....Wow dakat324--you really are an idiot..
You know, last night i read your last idiotic comeback and said I'll just leave it alone, but a day later you are still on it.
Are you and your boyfriend in a tiff? If so that's another forum, like rainbow boy shorts our something, but not here. But we'd appreciate you leave it off here.
If you would like to continue i would could gladly accommodate you on a current topic, not yesterdays news, even though you are still wrong. :-(
Hey Dakar whatever and the real mofo. greetings from planet earth. once you have finished insulting gay people (what are you 18th century mormons ?) Perhaps you could see that Musquin is faaaast and he is smart, Wharton on the other hand is a choker who is in the last chance saloon (see Im in London... i know all about the US), where factory rides are concerned. I just knew he woudnt bring it home. Its nothing to do with his nationality(Villapoto is also a yank if you hadnt noticed and he is a race killer) and everything to do with the fact that he is riding above his current ability and has failed to fulfill his early promise. Musquin would beat him nine times out of ten ( and thats not pro european propaganda. he is french for christs sake, weve been hating each other since before you were born). now that he has found his supercross legs. Its great to see the imports doing well, because American motocross in general is much better to watch and a hell of a lot more fun than watching the same old hacks runble around the desert in Qatar. Tommy Searle being the exception that obviously. Its just adds to the mix to have frogs and krauts etc. I only wish we had an english rider with the skills and the application to come and participate. Deano will have to do, besides his dad will beat us soft sassernachs up unless we say we love him.. seriously get well soon Dean , were proud of you.
@dakat324,, MM did not "take it back" from BW.. BW gave it to him... Am I "keeping up" with you???
"alezx9": Apparently the "9" stands for 9 years old....
therealmofo: Gosh you're smart...
KilloMoto: "covered" is never used correctly on here. Just look at the time and remember watching the race. They had each other "covered". You and all the RV guys are gettin sceered!!!!
davidl:You usually make a lot of sense and keep the bias down but your last comment just lost you a lot of points man...
Don't give up Dunge!
@jammer---When did I ever insult gay people?? I never mentioned it at all.. That was the idiot Dakat324.. I never said Musquin couldnt ride or wasnt great.. I just said Wharton had this one, and gave it away, no more no less.. 99 times out of 100 Musquins smokes him.. But he wasnt in Indy.. All I said.. Dont know why dakat had such a problem with it.. I wasnt out to insult anyone..
I wasn't gay bashing... i was mofo bashing....never said one bad thing about homosexuals.
It's realmofo and mxmofo's choice to love each other. No disrespect to them.
However, their man-love must be impeding their judgement, because they just don't realize that Wharto had the gift when the truly fast guys got hung in the first corner and dw DNS, That right there was the proverbial gift, and why bw lead even one lap.
Mr. MX and Mrs.Real Mofo, I think it's legal here for your type to wed, come on down! and to show I don't have hard feelings here in the "51st state", I will even walk you both to the alter. Seriously, congrats!
@dakat324 "*sorry Farmers! Bales, not bails" no problem, but it does make me laugh when people spell it like that
This dakat324 guy sure talks about Homo's and makes alot of gay references!! So what are you trying to tell us dakat324--its alright now, come on out.. its OK in these progressive times.. LOL!! Dumbas$
@farmer bob, spell check at it's best! Most respect to farmers, farmers feed cities.
Anything everyone eats comes from some sort of farmer..... Keep up the good work.
@red 44, i said i don't have an issue with it, and your right, I'll invite my wife and kid to my coming out party. I already know you'll be there, another member of your"club" to anoint. I'll lean on you for all your experience.... Lol... Loser
@dakat324--why dont you freakin' grow up.. Somebody just simply gave their opinion, and you start childish gay jokes.. How old are you 12??? You say you have a child, then grow up and act like an adult...
Bd... You're right.... You are the one that finally got through to me. From now on, I'll not give my opinion, just read yours, because thats all that matters. I'm sorry, that, you got offended because I inadvertently insulted your type.