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Racer X Race Report: Daytona

Sunday, March 10, 2013 | 1:05 AM

The second half of the Monster Energy Supercross season is looking a lot more like the first half was expected to look—but didn’t. Monster Energy Kawasaki’s Ryan Villopoto scored a dominant win at the Daytona Supercross by Honda—his third triumph at the event—and also jumped into the SX points lead for the first time this year thanks to a bad race for Rockstar Energy Racing’s Davi Millsaps.

But it was a tough race for almost everyone, as the Daytona track presented its usual mix of brutal, square, choppy bumps and typical supercross obstacles, making it one of the most challenging races of the year. The fact that long lap times led to a 28-minute 450 main only added to the challenge, one that Villopoto was easily able to accept.

He started it with the holeshot in the main event, but a mistake and near off-track excursion handed the lead over to yet another new speedster in a 450 class that is not lacking in fast riders. Red Bull KTM’s Ken Roczen, on the 350SX-F and racing his only 450 class race of the year, seized the lead, and was looking to continue the momentum from a sparkling heat race, where he led James Stewart all the way to the last lap. For a few laps of glory, Roczen was on the gas and leading Team Honda Muscle Milk’s Justin Barcia and Villopoto, but soon arm pump got the best of the 250 SX West points leader, and he began to slow a bit. Villopoto was back on the gas, making moves on Barcia and Roczen to take the lead. Barcia had a hot line through the center of the track, tripling a set of moguls to keep some heat on Villopoto, but eventually the two-time and defending SX champ ran away.

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The Daytona track was gnarly, but Villopoto shrugged off the challenge.

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Ryan Dungey was moving forward and finished up second. Look out, he's only 14 points back in the series.

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Justin Barcia was up front, but said "They Ryans were on it tonight." He was happy with third.
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The next rider on the move was Red Bull KTM’s Ryan Dungey, who was able to get Roczen and Barcia for second. By then, he had no chance of catching Villopoto, as the champ stretched it out to about nine seconds. Barcia held strong for third.

It seemed like everyone behind them had a bad moment or two. It started with Millsaps, who crashed in a corner on the second lap and found himself way, way back. He spent the rest of the race trying to salvage something, going from 13th to 10th, but he was never able to make much of a dent in the gap Dodge/Sycuan Suzuki’s Broc Tickle had on him in front of that. The 10th was Millsaps’ worst finish of the year, and gives Villopoto a two-point lead.

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Rough one for Davi Millsaps.

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Eli Tomac is getting this 450 racing things figured out. He had a small crash but held on for fourth.

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No quit in Chad Reed, who overcame a so-so start and a fall of his own to grind out fifth.
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Who else had a spill? Yoshimura Suzuki’s Stewart was near the top five early but never looked comfortable, saying he gambled and lost on bike setup. He then lost the front end and crashed in the same corner Millsaps did, sending him backwards, and he never looked that aggressive after that. Chad Reed was into the top five at one point before catching a tuff block, which sent him flying off of his bike. Gamely, he dug deep and repassed Stewart, then got Trey Canard and Ken Roczen together to get to the top five. He nearly caught fourth-place Eli Tomac, who also, yes, fell down at one point. The track was rough and gnarly and breeded mistakes and riders were notably not as aggressive late in the race—it took everything out of everyone.

Well, almost everyone. There’s a new winner in the 250 SX record book, and he seemed to enjoy every part of every lap out there. Red Bull KTM’s Marvin Musquin finally delivered his first AMA Supercross win with a dominant wire-to-wire victory in the 250s. At the end of the race, the ultra-smooth Frenchman said he was having fun the whole time! Meanwhile, the 250 SX East points race took another swing in favor of GEICO Honda’s Wil Hahn, who finished a solid second, ahead of first-time podium boy Jeremy Martin on the MyPlash/Star Racing Yamaha. Dean Wilson was blazing fast all day on his Monster Energy Pro Circuit Kawasaki, but early in the main, while running second and challenging Musquin, he cased a jump in a rhythm section and banged his head hard. He never seemed quite the same after that, and dropped to fourth. Fifth went to Rockstar Energy Racing’s Blake Wharton.

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Atta' boy, Marvin!

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Wil Hahn is starting to gain control over 250 East.

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Jeremy Martin on the box--the kid is beginning to show what he's really capable of.
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450 Main Event:

1 1 Ryan Villopoto Seattle, WA Kawasaki KX 450F

2 5 Ryan Dungey Belle Plaine, MN KTM 450 SX-F

3 51 Justin Barcia Pinetta, FL Honda CRF 450

4 17 Eli Tomac Cortez, CO Honda CRF 450

5 22 Chad Reed Dade City, FL Honda CRF 450

6 41 Trey Canard Shawnee, OK Honda CRF 450

7 94 Ken Roczen Murrieta, CA KTM 350 SX-F

8 7 James Stewart Haines City, FL Suzuki RM-Z450

9 20 Broc Tickle Holly, MI Suzuki RM-Z450

10 18 David Millsaps Murrieta, CA Suzuki RM-Z450

11 62 Matthew Goerke Lake Helen, FL KTM 450 SX-F

12 29 Andrew Short Smithville, TX KTM 450 SX-F

13 12 Jake Weimer Rupert, ID Kawasaki KX 450F

14 54 Les Smith York, SC KTM 450 SX-F

15 75 Joshua Hill Yoncalla, OR Suzuki RM-Z450

16 800 Mike Alessi Hilliard, FL Suzuki RM-Z450

17 57 Ben Lamay Wasilla, AK Yamaha YZ450F

18 46 Weston Peick Wildomar, CA Suzuki RM-Z450

19 49 Phillip Nicoletti Bethel, NY Yamaha YZ450F

20 10 Justin Brayton Cornelius, NC Yamaha YZ450F

 

250 Main Event:

1 25 Marvin Musquin Corona, CA KTM 250 SX-F

2 19 William Hahn Decatur, TX Honda CRF 250

3 77 Jeremy Martin Millville, MN Yamaha YZ250F

4 15 Dean Wilson Wesley Chapel, FL Kawasaki KX 250F

5 13 Blake Wharton Pilot Point, TX Suzuki RM-Z250

6 317 Justin Hill Yoncalla, OR Kawasaki KX 250F

7 50 Kyle Peters Greensboro, NC Honda CRF 250

8 71 Zackery Freeberg Riverview, FL Honda CRF 250

9 48 Cole Thompson Brigden, Canada Honda CRF 250

10 42 Vince Friese Cape Girardeau, MO Honda CRF 250

11 248 Mitchell Oldenburg Alvord, TX Honda CRF 250

12 613 James Decotis Peabody, MA Honda CRF 250

13 69 Peter Larsen Menifee, CA Yamaha YZ250

14 73 A J Catanzaro Portland, CT Kawasaki KX 250F

15 87 Lance Vincent Youngsville, LA KTM 250 SX-F

16 556 Brady Kiesel Fort Worth, TX Yamaha YZ250

17 393 Daniel Herrlein Bethesda, OH Honda CRF 250

18 167 Zachary Bell Cairo, GA Honda CRF 250

19 67 Gavin Faith Fort Dodge, IA Honda CRF 250

20 81 Shawn Rife Mechanicsburg, OH Honda CRF 250

450 SX Points

Villopoto, 202. Millsaps, 200. Dungey, 188. Canard/Reed, 163. Barcia, 152. Stewart, 135. Short, 122. Brayton, 104. Tickle, 99.

250 SX Points

Hahn, 92. Wilson, 87. Musquin, 78. Wharton, 76. Martin, 52. Hill, 51. Friese, 50. Peters, 45. Decotis, 43. Faith, 40.

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SpeedyR wrote: 1:42am March 10, 2013

congratulations to MM. good to see the frenchie get a win and at Daytona no less. extra points for the finish line jump.

hopefully DM18 will be back in form soon.

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jeramey wrote: 1:50am March 10, 2013

I guess by "gambled" stewart picked a setting that only worked for practice and the heat race, he should have chose the setting that would work for the main lol

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motomofobro wrote: 1:55am March 10, 2013

jeramey, you should choose a setting other than "bash JS 24/7". please get over him, and yourself.

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Claxton wrote: 3:12am March 10, 2013

RV don't need no stinking setting, just put gas in the tank and he will lock the throttle and show those kids how its done.

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SevenEight wrote: 3:20am March 10, 2013

Villopoto now has a 50% win record in 2013!!! Against the most stacked field ever, thats pretty badass!!!

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texag wrote: 3:34am March 10, 2013

Maybe there is something to Millsap's riding style being better suited to the slick west coast tracks. Now that some of the more aggressive guys are able to push the pace things aren't going so well for him.
RV is the man to beat and RD will be there to take over if he screws up..

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tlujan wrote: 3:50am March 10, 2013

RD must know that he must step it up now... Can't let RV just run away with it. I hope he can to keep things interesting. What's up with Wilson? Is it a fitness thing? Good effor by Reed to keep charging despite the crashing.

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kcoop9999 wrote: 3:53am March 10, 2013

Looked like Starvin' Marvin ate his Wheaties before Daytonna!!!!! He schooled them all on the gate tonight!!!!!

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super_fro_daddy wrote: 4:52am March 10, 2013

How about Kiniry and Peick in the LCQ??!!
Magic I thinks is gone from Davi....I don't see a continued beating of RV for the rest of the year from him. Fun while it lasted,
Heats were the best to watch, track was not terribly rough yet, but still made you work pretty hard.

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FenderFreddy wrote: 5:09am March 10, 2013

Dungey is only 14 points back ... and if he keeps finishing second to Villo ....

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pippidekok wrote: 5:31am March 10, 2013

Super pumped for MM. What a way to open your account, and it tightens the championship up. I still think Wilson will win this title, but he's not making it easy on himself.
The two Ryans emerging as the two main title contenders. RD needs to keep his consistency and wait for RV to screw up. It's gonna happen, and when it does, Dungey will capitalize.
And yip, Stewart went worm inspecting again, as I predicted. Was it his bum knee that caused it? Nope. It was his settings this time. We knew it had to be something, right? I mean when was the last time #7 just screwed up? LOL.

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jim123 wrote: 5:36am March 10, 2013

Congrats to Marvin on getting his first win, nice to see another first time winner and all round good guy on top of the podium.
He may have been back in the pack, but it is good to see Josh Hill make the main and get score a few points at the toughest SX of the year. Amazing for a guy that was not expected to walk properly again, definitely not expected to compete in such a gnarly professional sport. Good show.

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Tardpolice wrote: 6:39am March 10, 2013

@pippidekok and jeramey...........why don't you two put your heads together and see if you have a brain between you!! LOL..........Gnarly Daytona track, some interesting heats with good racing, an LCQ with a great finish, and all you two tards can do is get your Stewart jabs in?? Grow up!! Hey Claxton, you've never heard a rider say they made a bad call on set-up?? I think we've heard RV say the bike just wasn't dialed right on some nights haven't we?? RV owned the main event without a doubt, no disputing it, feel a little for Millsaps dealing with being banged up though, this really looked like he might be able to pull this off at one point, my how things can change!!

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mxobservant wrote: 7:02am March 10, 2013

Best placing Yamaha in the 450 class came home in 17th... Sad... How long will it still take for Yamaha to wake up?

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localexpert wrote: 7:37am March 10, 2013

No red or yellow flags, toughest track with the longest per lap times and RV1 crushes it. Silenced the critics? I think so.

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Brett1 wrote: 8:05am March 10, 2013

The Kiniry/Peick finish was awesome! We were screaming in our section. Dean Wilson was doing well until he came up short in the jumps on the east end of the track and it looked like he smacked his jaw on the bars. He slowed after that.

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Brett1 wrote: 8:05am March 10, 2013

The Kiniry/Peick finish was awesome! We were screaming in our section. Dean Wilson was doing well until he came up short in the jumps on the east end of the track and it looked like he smacked his jaw on the bars. He slowed after that.

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bucky394 wrote: 8:49am March 10, 2013

Gotta give a shout out to 77 Jeremy Martin! Showed he has the fitness to push hard all the way to the end. The training at the Carmichel compound is paying off. Rickys' mom worked his butt off and the results are coming. First of many podiums to come for him, and this was his third pro race. Sits 5th in points, and had a bad first race where he didn't make the main. Looks good to me! Go Bullfrog!!!!!!!!!

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yamaha317 wrote: 9:02am March 10, 2013

What caused JB10 to finish 20th?

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RandyOlson wrote: 9:27am March 10, 2013

There's a lot of parity among the states, with fast guys coming from all over. Florida gets the nod, but it used to be California. California had only four riders in the top 20 of both classes at Daytona, but at the Hangtown National in 1983, there were four riders in the top 5 of each class (125cc -- Ward, O'Mara, Myerscough, Heisser, with Barnett (IL) winning; 250cc -- Hannah, Johnson, Burnworth, Bell, with Bailey (VA) finishing third).

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pippidekok wrote: 9:39am March 10, 2013

@RandyOlson. The reason California doesn't produce a lot of MX riders these days has more to do with demographics than anything else. Half of Mexico moved there and MX isn't a big sport south of the border. They prefer 4 wheel as a means of outrunning the feds. LOL.

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fred wrote: 9:41am March 10, 2013

Tickle and James should of "Let Dave Bye".Then we would of had a tie in the points lead.

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jeramey wrote: 10:03am March 10, 2013

Umm excuse me but with all the bullshit I've been reading all week long from the Stewart nuthuggers they deserve a little of it back I'm sick of hearing his bullshit excuses, you lost period dont say anything else if you can battle for the fastest practice lap and win your heat race your "settings" were just fine it's always the same old story with him last year it was the same crap on that blue bike that did not seem to work right come main event time. Something's not working right come main event but its not the bike

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Angier wrote: 10:07am March 10, 2013

fell asleep during the 450 main due to pure boredom but I was really upset because I lost count on how many times RC said "that's right." I counted 17 times before my eyes closed.

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Open_Class wrote: 10:18am March 10, 2013

In the Main:
6 - Suzuki
5 - KTM
4 - Honda
3 - Yamaha
2 - Kawasaki

What alternate universe are we living in?

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B-KR wrote: 10:20am March 10, 2013

Hey, the Stewart fans had it coming. The RacerX poll had Daytona favoring James by a pretty healthy margin, which is just about as ridiculous as it gets. I thought he would do much better than he did, but saying it actually favors him over RV or Dungey? James has won Daytona twice I think in how many years of trying, and one was a mud run. Not sure where reality and fantasy intersect for some, but it is way out of whack.

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pippidekok wrote: 10:22am March 10, 2013

On the subject of RC, what was that dumbass comment all about which he made about Tickle? "If he goes any slower he'll fall over". I lost a lot of respect for him right there. You don't diss your own rider on TV. I hope his sponsors pull him up for it.

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MJRydsFast wrote: 10:23am March 10, 2013

RV's found his groove and he's well on his way to the championship now. The difference between him and Davi, or a guy like RC or an '04 Stewart, is that when he falls down, it doesn't matter 'where' or 'how many' places he lost. He finds a way to the podium and often wins despite the fall. Lesser guys fall, pass a few people back that they'd normally have passed, then settle in and take the points. RV passes back the guys he normally would be in front of and then STILL goes after the guys who are capable of beating him, forcing them into mistakes at times. That's the difference in a champion. As for Mr. Dungey... (cue "Jaws" theme music for the leaders!).

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Open_Class wrote: 10:29am March 10, 2013

Just my .02 on the JS thing. I'm not a fan. I understand the industry is trying to open the market up to new demographics and there is a master plan and all, but that said..I have never cared for his the person. I will refrain from making this a about him however.

I feel bad for Yamaha who singlehandedly invested and proved that the 4-stroke would not only be viable, but superior as a race bike.

Look what a season of JS7 crashing on it has done to public perception when in fact he has hit the dirt as much if not more on the Suzuki.

Millsaps took second in the points last year on the Yamaha, and is having his best season ever and will likely take third on the Suzuki. What does that say? I don't know, but....

Is the Yamaha really flawed? likely not and for the average rider you will never ever know. The top pros are particular about set up and confidence needs to be absolute at the speeds that they ride.

I for one would like to put this back on the rider and take it off the bike. The data points support this. same if not higher crash percentage on the suzuki. This should remove the bike from the equation.

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B-KR wrote: 10:33am March 10, 2013

Are you kidding about " dissing your own rider" on TV? I thought it was funny, oh and by the way, TRUE! I think that is just RC, no worries about political correctness, or whose panties will get all bunched up over it. I think if you are laying out a bunch of cash to own a team, you can speak your mind.......without worrying if a fan watching will lose respect for you. Maybe he could have said "wow, look at Tickle, man....tearing it up out there!"

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pippidekok wrote: 10:55am March 10, 2013

B-KR I'm not sure Tickle will be tickled pink by the remark. It probably blew his self confidence and self esteem to hell and back, having his boss say something like that on national television, which in the long run will be bad for RC.
Of course a team owner can speak his mind, but to negatively critisize your own rider on national TV? Come on.

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therapture wrote: 10:58am March 10, 2013

Yeah, I am gonna be "that guy" with the hard-on for grammar mistakes. I understand occasional slips and errors, such as leaving out a letter, punctuation, etc. BUT, this sentence:

"The track was rough and gnarly and breeded mistakes ..."

BREEDED? Now we are inventing new words on the fly? :-) Just having fun, please, no flames.

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yamyblues wrote: 11:01am March 10, 2013

@..open class you hit it on the mark with you point and backed it up... I was saying same thing for last 3 years.. If it was such a bad bike why could he qual fastest then win the heat on it nearly every time... He's on the Suzuki and same thing .. A win here or there but mainly just confusion.. I went to milestone for the YZ demo days and a few in the camp said this... It may take years for Yamaha to recover from signing JS7..a lot of people view it same way starting with me.. I love my new YZ I'm a 40 plus int rider and love it.. I've ridden a 2011 CRF a 2012 KX and a 2012 RMZ.. All great bikes but fall short in power to my YZ.. They feel like 300s when I first get on them ... Bottom line I think I go good on them until I get back on my YZ and I notice I'm home sweet home

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B-KR wrote: 11:10am March 10, 2013

Like I said, RC could have just said nothing, or better yet, lied about how Tickle looked at that point. RC was a commentator and his job there is to comment. I personally have MORE respect for RC for speaking his mind and not allowing personal relationships interfere with that. Imagine if Bob Hannah was team owner watching his guy visibly whipped out on the track. Think he'd sugarcoat it, or even be joking about it the way RC was?

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endoman38 wrote: 11:16am March 10, 2013

I just wonder why RV keeps saying he can't thank his sponsors, then he goes ahead and mentions them, anyway. I figured he'd catch Millsaps in points, but I didn't think it'd happen in a span of 2 races. In his qualilfier, why did Alessi turn his bike sideways in the track after killing the motor? Did he think it may stop people from passing him?

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Stantdm wrote: 11:22am March 10, 2013

Therapture got it right. RC has a poor command of the language and likely thinks those words are correct at the time he uses them. He is ill preparated for being a broadcaster.

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Claxton wrote: 11:24am March 10, 2013

RC certainly knows more about his rider then any of you do and he thought he was sluffing off. I agree with RC Tickle was on the verge of tipping over in the corners he was going so slow. These guys need a kick in the pants or else get into a new line of work. RV could start backwards and beat Tickle. Anyone wanna bet on Tickle being with RC next year? LOL

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therealmofo wrote: 11:24am March 10, 2013

Well I hate to get anything started, but a few "fan" where trying to call me out last week so I can call them out I guess.. Where in the world is SuperSXFanMan and preston?? They tried calling me out when all the "dumb " stuff was going on with RV, so I can all them out now I guess after RV totally dominated this race..

And I have no clue what happened to Millsaps, he was putting around. And I LOVED what RC said about Tickle.. If Tickle wants to run with the big boys he better pick it up.. I wasnt sure if he was talking about Tickle or Stewart myself, but I think it was funny..

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BD25 wrote: 11:30am March 10, 2013

The RC designed track at Daytona did not disappoint! It demanded a riders full attention and would bite him if he lost focus for an instant. It rewarded strength and fitness more than flow and style. The Ryan's and Tomac, who was catching Barcia until he had not lost the front end, bear this out. The exception to that was KTM's Marvin Musquin who seemed to float around the track as he took the 1st 250sx win.
Each heat had good racing, with the best battle of the night coming in the LCQ. Peick and Kinnery showed America what racing is all about, helmets off to both!!
Also, props to young Martin, Bucky has been telling us he is special and he showed some great skills, smarts and toughness in collecting his first podium of the year.

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Claxton wrote: 11:46am March 10, 2013

What the track rewarded was the guys that got on the gas and made things happen. I did not see any style in guys laying up and riding enduro style. The fact is everyone is fast for a few laps when riding over their heads but then arm pump happens do to the fear factor. RV and RD ride consistently fast for long durations which spells defeat for the others. That is not a matter of being in shape its a measure of how fast you are. When you are one second a lap faster even on the early laps guess who will win in 25 minutes? When you can pass anyone no matter how fast they are riding in a corner guess who the man is?

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Maico25 wrote: 11:57am March 10, 2013

Don't know where my long rant went but prob will show up somewhere where it should not.
As I have said about 3 times in the last 6 weeks: RV by at least 20, RD second, DM third. Everyone on track has known this since 2nd race. Who has been able to run consistently with the Ryans in the last 3 or 4 years when 1 or both are in the race, even, if racing through injuries. That is just how the talent and mind set is at this time. (I think Chad sees 3rd and prob will get it).
Can someone come,up with the stats (past 3 years) on heat race wins translating into race wins for JS7. Heat race LOSSES for RV2/1 that translated into race wins. The stats are probably real close on that one. Would be interesting to compare heat wins to race wins on the top 5 or 6.
I love RC and JE in booth these days, they have put away their jabs at each other and are a lot more natural with each other. I love the instant (and I mean very instant and unrehearsed) reactions to screw ups on the track. Of course Shagneen has got to be reeling from being upstaged and regulated to the bottom of the feeding trough. If he has any pull at Speed I am guessing he is in negotiations to get rid of both of them and replacing them with the new pit reporter for MX (Georgia) that can't speak American and thinks she is talking about motor cross.

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davidl wrote: 12:00pm March 10, 2013

WOW ! I love Daytona and kudos to a fantastic track ! I hope dean didn't get another concussion slapping his bars on the missed triple, figured he had the race until MM got the most perfect jump on the gate I have ever seen and rode perfect. I really like MM and glad he got one. I still feel it will be a Hahn and Wilson show from here on out with MM passing Wharton for 3rd. Jeremy Martin has really impressed especially on a long tough track like this , usually the rookies really fade- but WOW he has to have confidence now ! He could even end up being a spoiler- this series is getting better every race from the expected yawner.

In the 450's I about had a heart attack when Canard almost looped out-talk about a o-shit moment and glad there wasn't traffic coming the other way. Come on TC! NO injuries this year- I think its great, TC and CR have been neck and neck all season- I expect both of them to finish out in top 5 from now til Vegas. Cr's wreck was great because I don't want him hurt and he got going quick, I felt like he would have been showing RD a wheel if not for that- he was having fun.
Barcia was on it and faded less than I expected, he has really matured the last 2 years.
I cannot believe MA turning his bike sidewards in the middle of the track and then starting it, oh yea JS was passed so lets continue to block everyone else. I have little use for his actions.
I am bummed for Milsaps - I have been proud of a guy doing so well and his starts have been superb til now. Besides his starts-no one can say he hasn't rode well this year and here's to getting over his dings and remaining part of the "elite" class now.
Funny about Tickle-my opinion of him is he is simply too nice a guy and not enough blood lust to win too move to the next level, RC come on man you can't tell the truth on live TV !!!
what happened to Brayton ? I thought he was going to be better this year.
I remember a certain RV dis liker stating on here you would be an Idiot to think that RV or anyone could go on a streak this year and win 3 in a row, hmmm.
This season has been great and hope it keeps bringing more suprises !

Did I mention I liked Daytona ??

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uneasy_rider wrote: 12:05pm March 10, 2013

Best race of the year by far, super stoked for Musquin. Glad to see RV get lucky again since his main competitor is still "injured"! I did expect more out of Deano though, ran out of steam in a big way last night.

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MNfan wrote: 12:07pm March 10, 2013

After the ATL race, Matthes used his podcast to go on a 5-min rant belittling J. Martin. This was in response to being called out by Alex Martin concerning Steves criticism of his brother. He carried on about JM DNQing his first SX ever and only getting 5th in the worst field in years in his second.

Does anyone think that Matthes is man enough to give those same 5-mins to congratulating Jeremy on his steady progress each week? Do you think he will acknowledge that JM worked his boy-toy (Deano)? I didn't think so.

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rickamatuzio wrote: 12:13pm March 10, 2013

Man I love listening to Emig and Carmicharl. Ricky makes fun of himself about Emig stealing his words. Ricky has come a LONG way like Emig in his speech and is becoming a fantastic announcer. Very impressed... They make me enjoy watching an otherwise boring race.

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davidl wrote: 12:16pm March 10, 2013

Forgot - Peick and Kinnery was what we all need to see more of those guys were giving it their all - thanks guys I love racing ! !

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rickamatuzio wrote: 12:30pm March 10, 2013

Mnfan, I was concerned about Martin too. He hasn't made wise racing decisions on the track, but it's so easy for us to sit and see it on tv from a distance. He will figure it out and was very impressive last night. I think JM can win one before the season is over and rest assured, this summer in the outdoors Martin will prove the speed he has. SX takes time to adjust... And he obviously is doing it. I don't think Mathes said anything negative, they just point out the obvious. It's good journalism.

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rickamatuzio wrote: 12:37pm March 10, 2013

Two things: davidl, how tall are you? Can you side straddle a bike up the face of a hole and start it? Do you race?? It's a pretty common thing to turn your bike perpendicular to flat ground so you can start it with your feet touching. Your made at Alessi for this? Buy him and electric start then.

2. Stanton 4%?? Hmm.. MX fans must have a historical knowledge of ZERO. Reminds me of Obama voters..no idea WHAT they are voting for. Stanton won 4 in a ROW. He should be tied with RC, he was more dominant than RC at Daytona. Unreal..

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fred wrote: 12:38pm March 10, 2013

I think they should of just let both Peick and Kinnery into the main.There 22 gates on the line.If you have a call that close where the transponder says one won and a human says another call.Then just let both riders in the main.

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MNfan wrote: 1:01pm March 10, 2013

@rickamatuzio. I agree with what you are saying with the exception of your Matthes comment. It is not good journalism to belittle a rookie two races into his career. The only reason he did it is because he was called out by Alex. Unfortunately RacerX provides him the soapbox to push his arrogant agenda.

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meankx wrote: 1:12pm March 10, 2013

@ rickamatuzio

I got one for you!!!

One
Big
Arse
Mistake
America

Lol

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codjh9 wrote: 1:36pm March 10, 2013

rickamatuzio & Obama: YOU have no idea what you're talking about.
Weege: The track 'breeded' mistakes, huh? Hah!

I don't know who was responsible for keeping Hahn on w/Geico Honda during his injuries, but I'm glad they did (and I'm sure THEY are happy as hell too). And of course it's not just SX now - he did really well in 250 MX last year too.

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ElsinoreRacer wrote: 1:41pm March 10, 2013

@ rickamatuzio Agree on Stanton. Where was 3-time (in a row) winner Kiedrowski? Was silly nonsense.

Should night-time wins count as much? Nobody who was there for the day races would think so.

My 1st Daytona SX: 1977, Hannah. And it was 428 degrees. Centigrade.

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SpeedShifter wrote: 1:44pm March 10, 2013

All is right with the world.

As for the Teflon Con, the only gambling involved was done by his sponsors, and they're losing their shorts. Don't blame the bike. You've got about as much credibility as the guy who blames Bush for all his failures. It just doesn't fly, and nobody believes it.

Notice that his front end merely washed out and he wasn't aggressive after that. In other words, he quit. He's got a lot of quitter in him!

Meanwhile, Reed crashed a lot harder, yet dug deep and re-passed Stewart.

Looks like RV owns 'em now. Remember how far back in points he was a mere eight days ago? Now he's in the lead.

Motosport won't have to give discounts any more since Millsaps isn't leading the series. It would be exciting if Millsaps could fight back and lead it once more!

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ElsinoreRacer wrote: 1:51pm March 10, 2013

@ rickamatuzio, you are wasting your time re the Obama stuff. It's futile.

The thing about low-information voters is that, by definition, they don't know they are low-information voters. It's ontological.

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davidl wrote: 2:04pm March 10, 2013

Fred- I thought the same thing- they both deserved it

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davidl wrote: 2:05pm March 10, 2013

A tie should get them both in especially on this track

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davidl wrote: 2:10pm March 10, 2013

Rickamatuzio, ok I am 6' tall and I do race, but com-on man it wasn't a sharp valley just back it straight up kick and go.

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yamaha317 wrote: 2:11pm March 10, 2013

Anybody that can read through all of this crap should not have a boredom problem with watching the SX mains

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Welker wrote: 2:15pm March 10, 2013

@ all enjoyed the post's, the Good the Bad and the Ugly! Yes I liked al of Clints Spagattii western's!
@ Yamaha--- I really feel bad for the problems and I myself think tey have to be in everyones head? Yes the only bikes I bought myself were Yamaha's. I could always make them work. I think Yamaha will get out of this slump, I hope so!
@BD25 one of your shortest posts but still a good one!
@ Fred- Yes I think you are correct they should have called it a tie!

Yes The Iron Man Stanton did own Datona even when it was ran in the daytime, Me thinks we would all like to see a rematch of Hannah,Stanton and RC in their Prime, oh we should put RJ there also! McGrath was great but never had what it took other than Supercross He did win one Datona I think? and at real Supercross he was the best!

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whatever wrote: 2:15pm March 10, 2013

I just want to say THANK YOU to every-single-one-of-you who constantly bring up, rail on, b i t c h about, make fun of, praise, worship, despise, "ride the fence on", couldn't care less about, mancrush on, love, and/or hate James Stewart!!! Regardless which side you are on, you keep him in the news, keep him talked about and keep him "relevant" in the sport!! So, go ahead and love him and gush over him, or hate him and badmouth him......JUST KEEP TALKING ABOUT HIM!! LOL. Hang in there Bubba, let's see if you can pull out another win along the way here, just have fun with it!!

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Cranky wrote: 2:17pm March 10, 2013

ElsinoreRacer. Your point would have been more powerful had to stuck with standard US units of temperature. 428 Centigrade is approximately 802 degrees Fahrenheit. But you knew that.

It is great that you have a dictionary. Step 2 is to use it properly. "oncological"??

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Cranky wrote: 2:20pm March 10, 2013

Sorry, "ontological" . My point remains the same.

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Welker wrote: 2:21pm March 10, 2013

Ok, OK I admit for some reason I am not an RV fan? Part of it is because I never liked Kawi's but yes I liked Wardy? Also of lot of the othe Kawi riders. Maybe it is because I dont like green?
I know it makes no sense, I was all for RC, MCGrath and the others that won mmultiple titles and I have never even met RV but why I dont like him I dont know?
I just want someone else to win the title this year! Go Chad Reed! No I am not a Honda fan either.

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jeramey wrote: 2:27pm March 10, 2013

@welker you are not alone there are countless people who don't like RV and can't give one solid reason for it

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jeramey wrote: 2:27pm March 10, 2013

@welker you are not alone there are countless people who don't like RV and can't give one solid reason for it

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mit12 wrote: 2:28pm March 10, 2013

I am not an Alessi fan but he did the right thing by turning the bike sideways. He was in the middle if a section filled with big rollers and he wanted to make sure that the riders could see that he was stopped.

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wetto107 wrote: 2:31pm March 10, 2013

KTM had the bikes set up perfect..the bikes looked the best out there suspension wise. very good track indeed. too bad the kid wasnt totally prepared for it.

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xxktm wrote: 2:35pm March 10, 2013

Marvins holeshot was insane! Alessi is going to be looking at that tape to see how he did it!! It looked like he had a bike length within ten feet of the gate. Pretty freakin cool and way to hold on till the end! kudos to Jeremy Martin too, that was an awesome ride!

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Welker wrote: 2:36pm March 10, 2013

@ Whatever--- Yes I think James Stewart can win again at any time! His problem is and this is only a speculative guess it that he never learned enough to know how to tell the tech's what he needs done to the bike? That home Schooling is quite the thing? Carmichcel is a good example at least he is getting better at his new job.
"if he goes any slower he will fall over" that was a good one!
Also I dont think we need to get on the people for bad gramar on this site, just let it go. Yes I think I will call Websters Dicktionary and have then add "Breeded" to our new vocabulary! Yes my dog breeded some new pups.

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B-KR wrote: 2:49pm March 10, 2013

Musquin's start was a fine line between perfect and stupid if he ended up stuck in the gate. Sometimes gambles pay off though and that's what makes it fun. I think those who saw Musquin float around the track need to remember the 450 guys put another 28 minutes of gnarl on it. Every bump, rut, and hole was that much bigger and brutal after that amount of time.

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B-KR wrote: 2:51pm March 10, 2013

Grammar shmammar. Emig is still getting on RC about preperate! All good.

Plus I think some of this is due to the wonderful iPad changing words on us as we type.

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CR500AF wrote: 2:57pm March 10, 2013

@Cranky - Elsinore's use of ontological is correct. Look it up. lol

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Cranky wrote: 3:03pm March 10, 2013

@Welker. I agree that there are no teachers grading these posts and some minor spelling and grammar errors are no big deal; my writing skills are terrible. You do have to remember that people are still judging you by what you say and the way that you express yourself. The anonymity of these posts shouldn't be treated as a license to write crap. Do you take a poster serious if his comments sounds like it is coming from an 8 yr old?

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Cranky wrote: 3:05pm March 10, 2013

@CR500AF. I had no idea what it meant so I did look it up. How is that applicable in the context that he used it?

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ElsinoreRacer wrote: 3:09pm March 10, 2013

Cranky, I toyed with using Kelvin. Centigrade was (I thought) an amusing flourish on the obvious exaggeration of 428F. I am guessing you were kidding back?

I meant and stand by the use of ontological. . Refers to holding the property of being. The use I made of it could be re-phrased: It is inherent in the concept of being stupid that a person may not know they are stupid. Because being stupid entails not knowing things. It's hardly an original thought. There is the rather (OK, very) Latin rough equivalent in use in US and English law: Res ipsa loquitur. Most basically: it is what it is.

As for the dictionary, I suppose we will take that as a compliment. I did have to check on the "loquitur" part, though.

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ElsinoreRacer wrote: 3:15pm March 10, 2013

CR500AF and Cranky, lets drink pitchers of beer. We would have fun. I will start the BS: true or false. all things considered, the De Havilland Mosquito was the best all round aircraft of WW2? 1st round is on me. Bar has to serve pitchers, though, or I will be cranky and go on all night about how REAL bars serve pitchers. It's a problem, but I am too old to fix it.

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ElsinoreRacer wrote: 3:18pm March 10, 2013

I transposed Latin and rough. Makes sense now, I hope.

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B-KR wrote: 3:24pm March 10, 2013

Whatever-

I understand and appreciate that anything possible must be used to defend your rider and "get back" at those picking on him. It is hardly a feather in anyone's cap though, to think that mentions in a forum somehow is an extreme honor. I can see it now, at the AMA awards banquet they present the winner with the championship award. Then they turn to James and provide him with the very prestigious "most mentions in an Internet forum award". James is relevant as a potential SX winner not because someone brings him up here. Lastly, you should realize that he only is mentioned by non-fans due to the over zealous mentions by his fans.

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SuperSXFanMan wrote: 3:49pm March 10, 2013

I'm right here. Unlike some folks, when my guy sucks I have the ballz to admit it. JS7 said he blew it, and he did. It happens. RV rocked the house, as he has done several times this season and it's not going to be the last. He's that good. I picked JS7 because he's my favorite rider. On a good day, he can beat RV. Yesterday was not a good day. lol I can't be called out on anything. I didn't say he was going to win, I said I was picking him to win. Y'all anti-JS7 guys act like YOU won. lol Really.

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SuperSXFanMan wrote: 3:52pm March 10, 2013

And if you want to see something funny, Google "therealmofo" and look at over two years of posts - EVERY ONE mentions Stewart. Now THAT is an obsession. LOL

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SuperSXFanMan wrote: 4:06pm March 10, 2013

@ElsinoreRacer said: "Because being stupid entails not knowing things." That's incorrect. Not knowing things is ignorance. Choosing not to know things is stupid. Stupid can also described many other behaviors, such as purposefully talking above your audience for the sole purpose of sounding "smart". It has the opposite effect.

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Red54m wrote: 4:08pm March 10, 2013

@B-KR so true, one could make the same comment about RV. I want to share a STRAIGHT UP!!! With all the James fans that grossly overuse that phrase.

I am pretty sure that RV put 40+ seconds on the yellow 7. This Daytona track separated the MEN from the boys. The 4 guys you saw occupy the top four spots are going to be the same 4 you see running at the front outdoors this summer.

DAYTONA=MANS TRACK!!!!!

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Red54m wrote: 4:08pm March 10, 2013

@B-KR so true, one could make the same comment about RV. I want to share a STRAIGHT UP!!! With all the James fans that grossly overuse that phrase.

I am pretty sure that RV put 40+ seconds on the yellow 7. This Daytona track separated the MEN from the boys. The 4 guys you saw occupy the top four spots are going to be the same 4 you see running at the front outdoors this summer.

DAYTONA=MANS TRACK!!!!!

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Red54m wrote: 4:15pm March 10, 2013

Sorry for dbl post, and RC was dead on using the " if he goes any slower he'll tip over " mostly because his name is associated with that team and rider. By all accounts RC has a great personality and loves to kid and take shots whenever he can. My guess is he has that relationship with Tickle ( who was catching James I think? )

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therealmofo wrote: 4:23pm March 10, 2013

@SuperSXFanman--Dont jump on your high horse.. You did the same when Stewart got his win.. You gloated all week long.. I dont know what happened to Stew, he looked fine in his heat, but really struggled in the main.. But so did lots of guys.. I still think it was funny what RC said about Tickle, dont know why some guys got so upset by it.. It was funny..

@SuperSXFan,, do you REALLY want to know what is obsession, YOU Googling my Name.. That is kinda weird.. I have a stalker..

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whatever wrote: 4:23pm March 10, 2013

Oh "B-KR".......seriously?? Only you would actually find fault with my post!! I'm not trying to "defend" JS big guy, what the hell do I have to defend anyway?? That's right....Nothing. I personally just still like watching the guy ride a motorcycle, even if he isn't winning, I'm in no way all butt hurt by how his year is going, so give that up! Reading comprehension STILL a problem for you?? haha. Dude, I give everybody a thank you for their inability to refrain from mentioning the guy....both the over the top "pro" JS guys and the over the top "anti" JS crowd!! Are you really gonna argue that fact?? I appreciate your attempt to diminish my point, but it was futile, I don't believe I said that this petty little congregation of internet psycho-babble experts we are ALL a part of is somehow worthy of having an award named after it.....DID I?? Nope, I didn't!! BUT, there are those who say he "can't win" again and that he has lost "it" and they wonder why he gets sponsorships these days, and I guess there is a connection between his obvious ongoing popularity AND the fact that even in this small little cyber-space world he still gets lots of attention.....good and bad.....but it is still attention!! I'm not being a JS fanatic with it buddy, I was simply stating a fact....no big deal!! I love that the little itty-bitty part of you that, ahem...doesn't care for JS (or his "fans") still has to get his digs in!! Oh, and will you PLEASE stop blaming his "fans" for being the reason he is talked about so much, that's weak!!

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Cranky wrote: 4:24pm March 10, 2013

ElsinoreRacer. You made your point that "low-information" (?) people don't understand that they are "low-information" people. By referencing ontology, you are bringing into question whether "low-information" people truly exist. I still don't get it?

I guess the humor in emphasizing the numerically smaller centigrade scale to exaggerate the temperature was lost on me.

I'll stick to commenting on the posts of us "less-information" people...That is...if we truly exist.

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Warren579 wrote: 4:45pm March 10, 2013

Kiniry was robbed,why have a transponder if your not gonna go by it?The last couple of weeks the AMA is acting like NASCAR changing the rules as it goes along .the racing was really good though ,a rough track with long lap times separates the riders that are prepared !

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Warren579 wrote: 4:45pm March 10, 2013

Kiniry was robbed,why have a transponder if your not gonna go by it?The last couple of weeks the AMA is acting like NASCAR changing the rules as it goes along .the racing was really good though ,a rough track with long lap times separates the riders that are prepared !

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davidl wrote: 4:59pm March 10, 2013

Warren 579 I agree, it is stupid to me to have transponders and not place the detector on the finish line. It is also stupid to not at the very least call that one a tie- I stopped the replay of them - BOTH their front tires looked DEAD EVEN going through the posts

Next week its more of the same SX tracks, lets all hope we get tacky dirt with roomy 180 corners so the cream has a chance to rise to the top

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Uncle Charlie Birmingham, AL wrote: 5:24pm March 10, 2013

Welker you are correct never was a RV fan personally but he can motor..... Is it he has red hair, short man thing KAW Who knows.. I have a neighbor that moved in and has his own lil click of friends. The guy will not look twice at me . I would wave and be friendly or neighborly but doesnt even ACKNOWLEDGE my exsitance.. Who cares........I have other fish to fry than worried what people think... It's called age under your belt and maturity................ As far as grammer most people that bring up all that BS are usually punks that just want to pick a fight or Internet bullies,that hide behind the keyboard that couldnt chew gum and walk at the same time because of there under developed body and mind of having Mom & Dad do everything for them while they are on permanent time out.......Playing videos all day..... LOL ! Leave the real world to the real men...

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Uncle Charlie Birmingham, AL wrote: 5:27pm March 10, 2013

@ BD25 RACE was a good one !

Mr-Mx and friends say HELLO and wish you could of been there .. I'm busy for a while but hope to make Houston or Minneapolis

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rickamatuzio wrote: 5:38pm March 10, 2013

Are you guys smoking pot again? Transponders are for recording lap times for consistency, not determining finishes.

The trip for the laptime is thru the first turn, what is one person went thru it 1 sec before the other? the second person could finish the race .5 faster and not beat the person ahead of him.

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LastBikeRM250 wrote: 5:40pm March 10, 2013

@Cranky: I agree with you about ElsinoreRacer's comments. "Ontological" is misused.

Also, the implication by ElsinoreRacer and rickamatuzio that low-information voting is affiliated with a particular party or political persuasion, is ludicrous.

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LastBikeRM250 wrote: 5:42pm March 10, 2013

@rickamatuzio: you're definitely right on about the transponder issue. Race finish position must be determined at the finish line, by visual means.

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Welker wrote: 5:44pm March 10, 2013

@ --Uncle Charlie? If you are from Iowa and as old as me you might have raced me. Do you remember the shop in Keokuk Iowa called B & J Motorcycles? I races all over the midwest. from 72 till 77 and some in 78. one of the toughest tracks in that day was Cole Valley ILL though. I raced at the Iowa City MX a lot and also the Annual Cross country. The first person from Iowa to get a National nbr was Dewane Bonnet. Ya he was kinda good? I remember Foy and Muson also, Spaw was just getting good when I moved to TX.
PS: joke time and no offense IOWA stands for Idiots Out Wandering Around, That is a joke I have known for 40 years.

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Welker wrote: 5:46pm March 10, 2013

PS: There were a lot of fast guys from the Tri-State area!

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Welker wrote: 5:56pm March 10, 2013

PPS: @ Uncle Charlie Tipton Iowa had a really good track also, Quite a few memories from that place.

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motonerd wrote: 6:24pm March 10, 2013

Cangratulation Marvin Musquin! A 1st win is a momentous occasion and to do it at Daytona is awesome!
Best/worst day for CR He really does look like his old self again.
Finally a tough track! This was the 1st race of the year where I was glued to the seat.
Why all the harsh words for RC in the announcing booth lately? I love how unpolished he sounds and that occasionally he blurts things out that he probably shouldn't. It's real. I value everything he has to say about the racing, bikes, and tracks more than I could value what anyone else has to say and miss him when he's not there.

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BD25 wrote: 6:31pm March 10, 2013

Uncle Charlie Yes, it was great racing!! Daytona proved to be so exciting, I didn't even miss the Monster girls!! Speed did a great job for those of us who were stuck at home. I have a wedding to attend the day of Minneapolis (4/13) and will be racing the next day at rd 2 of the state series.. I will see how work goes, it might allow me to hit Houston. I do look forward to hanging with the Crew and enjoying a race in the near future...

Welker I split my post up between here and the Saturday night story in an effort to keep them shorter..I realize I can be a bit long winded and that I need to leave room on here for everyone else to express their views .lol..Thanks for all the kind words, glad you enjoy the posts...

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Not4show wrote: 6:50pm March 10, 2013

What RC said about tickle was AWESOME, it was so on the money.

And then the fact that Milsaps still couldn't catch and pass tickle was pretty funny.

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Not4show wrote: 6:51pm March 10, 2013

What will KTM do with MM and KR next year? WIll one or the other move up to the big bike class or have them on little bikes 1 more time?

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mx437 wrote: 6:53pm March 10, 2013

Ok, I am really late on signing on, but this is what I want to watch as far as supercross is concerned. 1 .5 min lap times is what I want for my money. Great racing, oogles of line choices and warm weather shots of Erin. This is by "FAR" the best supercross of the year. Feld are you paying attention. I will never go to another supercross sponsored by feld. Sick and tired of watered down motocross racing. This should be the "Standard" of all supercross.

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Not4show wrote: 7:00pm March 10, 2013

Warren579-- I can't remember if it was early this year or last yeaer, where they had the same problem where the rider over the transponder loop 1st didn't cross the finish last first. It was Peick who got the short end of the stick on that one.

Transponders are for lap times and the fans, and are not official, They still have scorers taking numbers evry lap of every race

They should changerule to, For LCQ 2nd place only, if the riders change position between transponder loop and finish line, then both riders will be sent to the main.

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therealmofo wrote: 7:09pm March 10, 2013

@There is the racist preston himself.. When have I ever cut down a rider?? Never, just the Stewtards like yourself.. You call people fat redneck racist and all.. and you say others cut people down.. And yes, have raced and have been involved with dirtbikes my entire life.. My kids both raced also, my youngest still does..

Its just me that you dont like, funny, because you come on and cut down ANYONE who isnt a Stewart fan, so it doesnt sound like you are a "fan" just a fantard.. Considering you act like if somebody isnt a Stew fan they must be racist.. Just figured since you tried calling me out on one of your crying rants about RV passing under a yellow flag I would call you out this time.. And I got some riding in in the mud Saturday, got some more in today.. since I can ride on my own land, I work for a living..

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chromob wrote: 7:23pm March 10, 2013

Did Vince friese get penalized for switching bikes in the middle of a heat race? He didn't fool Ralph, but by the time the camera caught him again he was back on a Honda. It's ludicrous , preposterous , egregious ... He needs to be dealt with.

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theysaidwhat wrote: 7:42pm March 10, 2013

I guess I called it right on the "Practice Report" page when I said I felt that JS would finish off the box in Daytona, not sure what it was, but I just had a feeling!! Sometimes I hate being right!! Ha

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rickamatuzio wrote: 7:52pm March 10, 2013

David "too tall" L, your one of the lucky guys that can sit flat footed on a bike and reach down with your hand and throw a rock off the track!! Luck man. Guys like Alessi and I have to get off the back and hold it with one arm while reach down because we are 5'8".

The first lap isnt recorded because the transponder is at the finish.. Thus if davidL gets the holeshot and I fall in the first turn, and I catch davidL on the last lap and finish tied with him by photograph, I can actually have a much faster overall time by a big margin but still tie davidL, reason being the transponder doesn't start until after the 1st lap.

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RCRDDW wrote: 8:02pm March 10, 2013

RV: "We're not worthy, we're not worthy..." I didn't think there was ANYBODY who could pull 3 in a row this year. To win 2 straight this year is amazing-but 3? I don't even know if RC could've pulled that off against this competition.

RD: You are still my dawg! Go out, grab a hole shot next week and win the darn thing. This thing still aint over...

Mathes: You bug dummy, Do you still think "James Stewart is the best Super Cross Racer ever"? And lay off JM! You sir, should not have the forum you have been given to espouse your bias.

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B-KR wrote: 8:36pm March 10, 2013

Whatever-
Just felt like giving you something productive to do today. After years of ignoring you, got a little nostalgic. If you haven't paid attention, I've had nothing but praise for James this year and (gasp) have rooted for him several times. So yeah, it is the fans that are the irritant. RV fans are an irritant too. It just seems the majority of other fans base in reality. If RV sucks for 3 years, his fans won't continue calling him the best and talk about how he is just getting ready to whoop Tomac's ass (see what I did there?)

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B-KR wrote: 8:45pm March 10, 2013

For example.....Preston giving James the credit for everyone "getting up to his speed". No other fan is ever going to claim their guy did more than go fast and win races. With James he has revolutionized the sport, is responsible for attendance, and now is responsible for others being good. RV already has more titles and that's the end of what anyone's going to give him credit for. The rest is just nonsense.

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davidl wrote: 9:02pm March 10, 2013

Rickamatuzio, its you damn short guys that are always kicking our butts so don't complain, its a rare 6' dude that can compete with you fast little bas###s, lol

Thats one of the reasons KW and DM are so unusual they are big and kick butt, I have a hard time keeping up with my buds (all smaller) but at least I compete

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davidl wrote: 9:07pm March 10, 2013

BD25, if you do Houston bring your bike and a RV a bunch of us camp at 3 palms on sat and ride our butts off on Sunday,

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yz692 wrote: 9:58pm March 10, 2013

I'm lookin any time for the "the suzuki is a p.o.s.bike" comments to start!! Some people just can't believe that JS7 knows he can't beat RV !! He sucked this weekend!! The only ones still racing after halfway was Reed and Dungey!! I am wanting Millsaps to get back on the gas more than anyone--but after this weekend I think RV has sent a message------a strong one!!!!!!!

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therealmofo wrote: 11:05pm March 10, 2013

@yz692 I agree about more excuses coming.. And dont forget.. Millsaps took a hard shot from Canard in the arm last week.. I'm sure on a track like Daytona that played a strong factor..

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SpeedShifter wrote: 11:53pm March 10, 2013

@supersxfanman, nice try at revisionist history with regard to the definition of the word "stupid." Here's the real definition, including important synonyms that can be used when describing JS, a.k.a. the Teflon Con. 1stu·pid adjective \ˈstü-pəd, ˈstyü-\ Definition of STUPID 1 a: slow of mind : obtuse b: given to unintelligent decisions or acts : acting in an unintelligent or careless manner c: lacking intelligence or reason : brutish 2 : dulled in feeling or sensation : torpid 3 : marked by or resulting from unreasoned thinking or acting : senseless 4 a: lacking interest or point b: vexatious, exasperating . Now that you know, you can provide the proper definition of the word "stupid."

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Uncle Charlie Birmingham, AL wrote: 12:11am March 11, 2013

@ Welker I know what you are talking about...I'm in the AG business.. Mr-Mx I talked and hung out a lot down there.. Small world I knew his dad and him he just turned 49 on the 20th and I just turned 54, we actually met in the 70's and some of the others like D. Despain.A.Eckman,L.Maiers, Huffman,MC,Bud man, and others ..

Great time .. I own a lot of land in a lot of states.......I own land by the old Wendy Oaks MX Springville, IA Held Yamaha Nat in 1974 and tipton is about 40 miles away .. I saw Mr-Mx in 1985 race a LL Qualifier there in the A class with LaRocco Bowen,Donny Schmit in the day .....LeGrand in Marshalltown, IA Had a big bus as a land mark off the Highway in the day..... Petersburg was one so was Sandy Oaks Keithsburg, IL Omaha Moto Park Herman, NE .. Got to go got an early flight out ...................talk soon ...............Great talken!

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rickamatuzio wrote: 12:16am March 11, 2013

You guys never stop...
On Stewart's best day he can beat RV. On RVs best day he can beat Stewart. It's like the NFL, on any given Sunday.

Stewart consistently has better lap time ability than RV, which means he is more capable of sheer speed comfortably. RV has better fitness and resolve..
James is on a NEW bike that he hasn't ridden long, RV is on the same bike the last 10 years.
James is hurt and not 100%.
James is also quite a bit older..
I would say they are pretty equal.. Stewart sure as heck isn't going to ride the edge to win when he isn't in title contention.

Anyone that doesn't realize Stewart's ability is biased like this
http://global3.memecdn.com/obama---banana_o_1061945.jpg

Stewart will win just as many races as RV this summer if he is healthy. However is Stewart has become ni$$er rich and lazy, unwilling to train, he will not beat RV.
James is a class act and I have nothing but respect for him, I used to hate him.. But he earned my respect this year. I want him to win.. And I love watching RV just as much. I want 17 different winners

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GasCan wrote: 12:35am March 11, 2013

Maico25 : Did you really just try to rip on RC in the booth then say a possible new guy cant speak American? Thats not a language.
RC keep it real that thats refreshing. We all can learn something from him. Nobody wants a polished ESPN type analyst in there. And furthermore, I laughed my ass off when he said that about Tickle. Thats how it should be, as it is in any sport. The boss tells you what he expects and that either lights a fire or moves you on. This is a mans sport. No sugarcoating. Its about results and hard work to keep your factory ride.

RV has skills above the rest and hes proved that. Hes so quick to pass, the guy in front dosent know how to react. No other guy can get a bad start and charge through all the top 5 in the pack like he does. Hes had a couple off nights, he's human, but not one guy out there can challenge him when he brings his A game. I like most of the top 5, Im just going off what I see, not nut hugging.

Stewart- Its got to be mental at this point. Or maybe a new front tires fault. Wow, you switch tires after a heat win to ones you did not test in practice? See what I mean, it's mental.That reality show and fame messed up a great talent.

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rickamatuzio wrote: 12:36am March 11, 2013

I just watched James post race video on MXA. He has grown up so much, he blamed himself. He missed the setup, it was his decision and he said he sucked. Very humble, very honest. Setup at this level is worth 1sec lap no problem... This new found mentality is going to earn James good karma eventually. Look at tiger woods... Same situation.

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GasCan wrote: 12:53am March 11, 2013

Maico25 : Did you really just try to rip on RC in the booth then say a possible new guy cant speak American? Thats not a language.
RC keep it real that thats refreshing. We all can learn something from him. Nobody wants a polished ESPN type analyst in there. And furthermore, I laughed my ass off when he said that about Tickle. Thats how it should be, as it is in any sport. The boss tells you what he expects and that either lights a fire or moves you on. This is a mans sport. No sugarcoating. Its about results and hard work to keep your factory ride.

RV has skills above the rest and hes proved that. Hes so quick to pass, the guy in front dosent know how to react. No other guy can get a bad start and charge through all the top 5 in the pack like he does. Hes had a couple off nights, he's human, but not one guy out there can challenge him when he brings his A game. I like most of the top 5, Im just going off what I see, not nut hugging.

Stewart- Its got to be mental at this point. Or maybe a new front tires fault. Wow, you switch tires after a heat win to ones you did not test in practice? See what I mean, it's mental.That reality show and fame messed up a great talent.

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persona wrote: 3:35am March 11, 2013

@@@rickamatuzio

You Stewart fans just keep getting dumber and dumber. It's sad that you guys are making up stats for him this year.

RV has won more races and had faster lap times in main events (not practice main events, you know the races that actually matter and people care about) then anyone else the last few years, yes that's right, years.

James is nowhere near RV.

RV is racing to win a championship. James isn't. RV is winning multiple races, James isn't. RV has a red plate on his bike, which means points leader, James doesn't and hasn't since 2009.. :)

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pippidekok wrote: 4:18am March 11, 2013

@rickamatuzio That pic of Obongo and his mate is so wrong. I know for a fact he'd much prefer a nice big juicy bucket of KFC with a wattymelon for desert. LOL.

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Maico25 wrote: 9:40am March 11, 2013

@gascan,
Naw man, I was trying to say all good things about RC that you are. I love how he and fro have been flowing together the last few races. I was actually laughing the whole moto. I think Shaneen has lost the battle at jabbing them into cutting each other down. I havembeen to 21 different countries and 49 states with the Military. I know American is not an official language but you listen to all the news broadcasters and dj's compared to English spoken in London. Also there have been several studies that have concluded that the accent's TV personalities, people of the south and the mid-west have changed what was the english language that, can best described as American.
The dig at Shaneen was meant that he is getting drafted by the knowledge, personalities, and spontaneous actions of RC and Fro.
Georgia is the lady that MX Sports replaced Ewin with last year in MX that seems not to know exactly what they do with those horns (cow) on the bikes. She also talks like she is competing in a speed speaking contest in heavy English (England English). If Ralph kicks Out the real talent her, he might become relevant again. Have been huge RC fan since he racing amateurs. Followed all his 4 wheel racing.

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therealmofo wrote: 11:29am March 11, 2013

@persona-- I agree, Stew has been humbled the last few years.. When RC retired and he finally got a few titles.. He grew a gigantic ego.. Terrible ego.. That is waht first turned me off.. He has grown some since he hasnt been winning.. got rid of the dumb tv show.. And has tried to become a racer again.. that is great.. But I dont believe nothing that RICK wrote about STew being faster, he said Stew has consistantly faster lap times than RV??? WHAT??? Look at the lap times chart every week.. I never see Stew on top except for Atlanta.. Thats the only one I remember.. RV is the two time defending champ, and it looks like he will get his third this year.. Something only done a few times ever, by a couple of the best riders ever..And him saying Stew is faster and the only reason RV wins is fitness is WRONG.. Like I said before look at the lap times.. Racing times.. NOT PRACTICE....The race is when you are actually racing....RV is as fast or faster than Stew, every week.. He showed his "Sheer Speed" Saturday in Daytona.. A bad setup and wrong front tire doesnt make a guy faster than RV get 8th place..Stew himself has said his knee is not a problem anymore, since San Diego.. RV said his suspension is the same supercross stuff, just s few clicker changes.. So how did Stew mess up his suspension all of a sudden.. Even MXMOFO says he isnt buying the excuses from Stewart... I am not bagging on Stew, just proving a point that he isnt faster than RV like Rickamatuzio says.. I picked Stew to finish 1-2 with RV..

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McMoto wrote: 12:34pm March 11, 2013

I have asked this question in the past, Does anyone else have trouble hearing the voices of the commentators? ( I'm not really complaining , just cuorious). The roar of the crowd and the bike motors always drown out the commentery by so much that I have to come to these comments posts to hear what interesting thing R.C. said this weekend. I've always assumed it was the Audio feed from the Networks involved but maybe its Direct TV ? It effects ALL my T.V 's (3) so it must be the feed. It was a great race in Florida though, I always enjoy the Daytona SX and TV coverage of our awesome sport has come ALONG way.

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GasCan wrote: 6:59pm March 11, 2013

Maico25- Thanks, I get it. I just wonder if the marketing guys are thinking of replacing Windham in the booth for RC?

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