Reed in Trouble over his Florida Track
Thursday, February 7, 2013 | 12:40 PM
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Hmmm, Reed is pissin' more people off... What a shocker!!!
I have some experience with conditional use permits and the standard for their revocation, which usually requires a Court order. I will say violating the terms is a big problem. If you cannot run on certain days and you then violate those days repeatedly, you face loss of the permit if you have not gone through the formal process to expand the days and have a proper hearing on the expansion.
I have been to Dade City MX and it is a nice area pretty remote from Tampa, though there are still neighbors. Reed’s track is just a bit SE of Dade City MX so clearly MX is common in that area. The lesson is to do anything to appease the neighbors. I give dining gift certificates to the couple farmsteads surrounding our private track. Works wonders.
tsk tsk tsk.......Reed is doing what every rich person does....whatever he wants. lol
I know if I had huge acreage and an even bigger bank balance....my neighbors could learn to ride and join me or move! haha
This is what happens when the manufacturers, the AMA and the FIM demand that everyone ride FOUR STROKES.
There is no more disgusting sound than a four stroke, and the sound carries like a fart during a math test.
Conversely, the sound of a two stroke is akin to a Mozart concerto, and can be used to arouse females or to soothe babies to sleep. It's a cure-all that relieves symptoms of gout, consumption and rheumatoid arthritis, not to mention the common cold.
"He's an absolute, arrogant, unashamed scofflaw,"
And to make statements about him not being a gentlemen. He's not, he;s a motocrosser. Unfortunately he resides next to some uppity old people with money. He needs to move further away and rent his house out to some halfway house group who will fill it with transients and junkies and maybe Jlaw and Hanson too! that would make me happy
Much as I like 2-strokes, I wouldn't say the sound of a few 110db Cobras riding around a small mini track could be compared to Mozart, Motorhead, or even an American Idol early cut.
Hard to know just how loud it is. I thought it was strange that someone said they could hear the tires squealing. If the motors were loud, you'd think that would drown out the tire noise.
"He's an absolute, arrogant, unashamed scofflaw,"
WOW....tell us how you really feel Mr. Man .....
So a possible end game if Reed continues to piss folks off is bye bye go-kart track.....Doesnt sound like he pulled any permits to install a paved race track and if they really want to be pr*cks, they can fine they hell out of him and order it be demolished.....doubt that will happen, but doesnt sound like Reed is being very cooperative.....
The show "Chad Reed - My Way" sounds appropriate all of the sudden..
These are the same type of people that if electricity just came out they would say poles are dangerous to drivers. The noise is the easiest thing to complain about. Noise can be considered a pollutant by affecting one's mental health.
Before anybody starts with the "bleeding heart liberal" crap, commissioner Mulieri is a Republican. Imagine that.
This is really a shame. You would think he would be smart enough to realize that his business indirectly relies on supportive neighbors. I just don't understand why he would be so blatantly disrespectful of his community and the law. Foolishness on the Reed's part.
Reed is riding his track like he should. The neighbors and you hypocrites saying he's not cooperating? He's practicing .working!. Pays taxes on that land . Those neighbors prolly don't even have jobs cause they are always at home . Boom.lol
70 decibels is not loud at all. Most noise ordinances where I live draw the line at 85 decibels before you can be cited. I believe a normal conversation is about 65. A lawn mower is about 85. If I were Reed I would stand at my property line with a decibel meter while my neighbor cut the grass on Saturday and file a complaint.
This is just depressing on so many levels but the biggest one is the fight against private property owner rights.
Sure I want Reed to stand up for the power-sports industry but in my eyes this is a bit bigger than that. Thankfully I live in a small town, full of farming and industry so the sound of dirt bikes is welcome. Not sure how bad I would react if a neighbor tried to tell me I can't ride my dirt bike on my own land.
So go get them Reed, you have my full support in this!
@SpeedShifter
I could not agree more
What a bunch of crap.
This is about people wanting more laws, regulations, and government control. The hoops you have to go through just to ride a dirtbike....come on people!!! Wake the F up! Laws, regulations, permits....if you believe in this garbage then the public school system has worked in the government's favor. They should do this, they should do that.... Reed gets pushed over on this, the rest will go as well. Stand on solid ground or start grabbing your ankles...I'm with Reed. I'm with motocross.
Pretty messed up you can't do with your land what you want when you live pretty much in the middle of nowhere. I've been to Dade City, it's the boonies and it's a really rural area.
Here's one to think about:
Not 100% sure but, Chad is most likely not a US citizen(his kid is?). If that is the case, an immigrant is pissing off US tax paying citizens.
I say farck the neighbors either way. Build a Monster truck!
you think Reed has it bad?
Obama appoints CEO of REI to head public lands mgnt
Didn't McGrath go through something like this years ago?
Guys, that noise would get old,, just like a dog barking constantly..
Reed offically became US Citizen last year during the Nats I believe.
@DungeyPoto, yes but different issue. McGrath dealt with an eminent domain issue. McGrath’s track was built in the middle of nowhere. As the residential area continued to expand, the track was gobbled up as part of the expansion of homes and development. Happens to motocross tracks, farms, all kinds of properties inconsistent with the new zoning expansion.
Keep in mind, you need a permit/license to drive, operate a commercial vehicle, dump waste, bury nuclear fuel, buy a handgun, start building a home, hunt, panhandle, get married, be a doctor, etc, etc. I volunteer over 100 hours a year to “right to ride” issues for motocross tracks. When articles appear in the paper about a local motocross guy blatantly violating rules (allegedly), it makes the sport look bad and that hurts everyone, even the tracks following the rules.
Unlike most people who have to try fighting something like this, Reed can afford to have good lawyers fight for him. If he loses, that would be bad sign.
You never hear about something like this in Oklahoma. I'm surprised more rider don't set up shop there.
Washougal had a problem a few years ago. I don't know if they resolved it. I think the tire noise was the carts sliding.
I had a neighbor awhile ago that raised coon hounds, that sucked. I just thought about when a dozen of us were riding on sundays how he felt. Nobody is open to compromising any more. I'm sure the noise is not as bad or often as they say and I'm sure Chad and friends ride/drive at times that they agreed they would not. I speculate that the go-karts with the crf250 engines in them do sound annoying after a few hours and those are probably the offenders with what was said in the article.
This isn't a property rights issue, so don't try to make it into one. Do you own the sound waves? Maybe when they are on your property, but once they leave they are entering your neighbors property or public property and you are then subject to laws governing them. Since when is respect (or lack thereof) for your neighbors and fellow countrymen a political issue?
I realize some neighbors can be real jerks in situations like this, but it seems like Reed is provoking it. I might have some sympathy for him if he had followed the ordinances.
I have an acquaintance that lives about 2 miles from Cahuilla Creek MX park. The subject of MX came up and he was telling me he was bewildered. When he first moved there they hardly ever heard anything, but now it is a constant. It's not loud enough to bother him, but imagines it does those who live closer. We finally came to the conclusion that the sound became noticeable with the change from 2 to 4 strokes. I guess the deeper sound carries farther.
I love watching motorcycle racing, and the sound of it is all part of that. But who wants that noise 7 days a week? I live on a residential street that recently had three different guys moved into the neighborhood with uncorked road bikes. It is a nightmare. I have a sound meter and have measured over 105 dB at my window when they do their usual full throttle drive-bys. It is jaw chattering loud. My young son is routinely jolted out of sleep by this at 2:30 am. This is obviously different than a more distant practice session, but I think it illustrates how it sucks to have your home assaulted by noise.
As annoying as Chad thinks Florida may be, he needs to remember how unrestricted and free it really is compared to just about anywhere in Australia. Just came back from oz on a holiday and those aussies are burdened with so many laws that it is almost bankrupting most of them. Reed should play the game and work with everyone instead of butting heads, but that is sometimes hard if you have jealous neighbors.
@texag is right id do the same thing. everytime they start their cars and mowers make sure it's in the correct sound check and hire people to hide in the bushes to make sure they're not breaking sound rules.
I hope Reed is attemting to be nice to the neighbors.
NOW the question begs to be asked- are his neighbors trying to be nice and respect him? I understand he owns over 15 acres and pays income tax, pays property taxes, brings money into and spends it in the local area. He should be able to ride on his own property in pursueing his own career. He should be able to ride carts on his own property for fun. If he is doing it for a commercail business thats one thing but if he is playing in his own yard- he should have that freedom.
Its a sad day when you really don't own what you paid for, and can't do what you want.
If I was CR I would be as nice as possible to the neighbors give them nice tickets for the closest supercross and buy them dinner. I would also put on the quietest mufflers possible and switch the carts to quiet 2-strokes. He needs to ride and have fun and I can totally relate to his side- but he should know that he can win more with honey than salt. If he spent considerable effort trying to be nice and get along with them he might help the whole perception of all of us riders and the industry, I love riding and have my own track and have compromised to help with my neighbors- it has gone a long way.
I love 4-strokes am 49 years old and grew up on 2-strokes- its a pity the sound carries more. my 450 helps my riding style (i'm sloppy) and helps to smooth me out.
MXBob I hate to say, it but it does happen in Oklahoma. Brett Cue's dad Ronnie moved out in the country, built a nice practice track for Brett and a neighbor over a mile away took legal action. The neighbor was a elderly man, who is an "artist" and his wife, a lawyer. Over the course of time Brett was limited on when he could ride, how many could ride and couple years later, the track is no more. Brett is now forced to find other places to ride... Guy Cooper even had trouble when he started Cooperland Raceway. Legal action was threatened, as the neighbors were worried about the noise, pollution and the effect on wild life. Guy was able to overcome and open the facility, but he had to get attorneys involved. So it is a nation wide problem...
You gotta be kidding me, the neighbors sound like real jerks about the whole thing and also the county. Reed is trying to make a living and with his profession you have to ride as much as possible but his neighbors dont seem to respect that, how would they feel if reed started interfering with there trying to make a living. I can guarantee they wouldnt like it.
15 acres is not as much land as you think if you've got multiple tracks and buildings on there. Pastrana went through his headaches over this as well. I know our town has used google satelite images to see what you built and when.
It would seem that the time to make nice with the neighbors is long gone. Could it be that Reed is not planning on staying there much longer anyway and is telling them to screw?
It is called being a whiny ass Liberal. Our current President was ranked the most Liberal member of Congress in 2007, think about that.... more Liberal than Bernie Sanders?? Why are people so stupid, you idiots wait until companies 2014 budgets when Obamacare kicks in? I hope all Obama supporters lose their jobs and they starve along with their children.
Can someone tell me the last time Obama past a budget? Anyone?
Liberals Suck.
@mxchampion,, OK then, I will buy some property next to you and build a hog confinement.. Sound good? I'd be just trying to "make a living."
It's been mentioned here a few times that CR only owns 15 acres. If that's true then it's easy to see why the neighbors are po'ed as 15 acres is nothing in terms of space for a SX and cart track.
The articles written as if all this happened yesterday. Reed's been in California for a month or more.
What pizzacorner said.
Mike Metzger told me a funny story about his neighbors pissing him off, he did some funny things to pay them back, like painting his house black, painting all the large boulders on his land black, then painting crazy skulls and things all over everything to run off anybody who considered buying a house in the area, LOL
@pizzacorner: I'll ignore your usual political drivel (other than to note: presidents don't pass budgets, and it seems neither does a gridlocked congress), but I can tell you one thing: The noise complaints for several of the MX parks in my region are not coming from "Whiny Liberal" communities or individuals. Noise, and complaining about it, is rather politically neutral.
THIS JUST IN:
Earplugs are on sale at Home Depot!
Makes a great gift for any occasion.....
Screw the neighbors!
Screw Obama!
Get rid of the carts!
@LastBikeRM250,, You're right, Presidents don't pass budgets, but they can at least come up with one.....
@misoheye.........just because a politician is registered as a "republican" doent mean he isnt a liberal ! truth is 90% of our government( from the fed all the way down to your neighbourhood home owners associations ) is well "left" of our constitution! you may as well get used to seeing more of these stories, thanks to the american citizens voting in communist leaning politicians
NIMBY, lol
Pizzacorner is an idiot who has no life--President do not pass bidgets, and MXMOFO he has presented several budgets, the Republicans automatically throw them out because he is a Dem.. its called "obstructionist" its what they have done since 2008..
And if I remember right..Reeds property buts against a garden center.. So those folks are there all day every day and into the evenings.. And Reeds track runs right to the property line.. So they and their customers get to here the noise all day and evening every day.. Sorry people but that would get real old fast.. This is a free country, but also free for his neighbors to not have to hear the noise and it hurting their business and way of life.. Sorry Pizzacorner, but I'll bet that the business owner is a Republican..
@motoguzzi--get real, Communist?? typical fear mongering..your guy lost get over it..And this story is STATE related,not Federal. and my parent live in Tampa, it is all Conservative...
sadly , the best thing chad can do is move. maybe Texas, Arkansas, or Louisiana..........some place where its a little more "backward " as some would say...... i think that would be the opposite of "progressive" , anyway some place where they say its your land and you can do what the hell you want on it, and someone said DO YOU OWN THE SOUND WAVES? these are the GD geniuses we are dealing with
yes......communist
It's worth noting that the woman that's spearheading this lost the bid for that property to Chad Reed, so she definitely has an ax to grind.
and i said from the fed all the way down...........private property rights are being taken away ........... eroded over time.
republican........ democrat , whats the diff? really is the same in my book.
@mxmofo1: Yep, this year's is late. But contrary to what is often stated, the President has submitted a budget (which is just a starting point for congress) to congress each of his years as president. It is congress that has failed to pass budgets.
i have a freind who lost his property(50acres) because he refused to sale to the developers, the developers went end around to the city had him annexed ( cow pasture and corn fields) then they imminent domain'd his azz and took his property. he was compensated to the tune of 30% less than what the developers offer . then the city sold it to the developers. communist........? not yet, but we are splitting hairs , lets say fascism..........ok?
harry reed is the man holding the budget from being voted on
AGENDA 21.................bitchez ! we wont see it in our lifetime, but we are sliding that way little by little
I see, @motoguzzi, your stand is that a property owner can do absolutely whatever they choose to do within the confines of their own property without limit, and without regard to the affect on surrounding properties. Brilliant. And good luck with that argument in even the most conservative court of law.
@motoguzzi: I agree what happened to your friend is bad. But that was all about cheating someone for financial gain. That's far from communism or fascism, just plain old dirty dealing.
@ motoguzzi - It's called "corporate crony capitalism". Basically, capitalism for anyone with money and/or connections while everyone else who plays by the rules gets the shaft. Politicians on both sides are playing everyone. I'm sure once they get behind closed doors they all have a laugh and plot out the next thing they'll argue about. Politics = WWE.
I love how casually Americans throw the words communist, fascist, and socialist around. If only you guys had a clue what that really means and what it would actually be like to live in a communist or fascist country. Unfortunately for the republicans western society is progressing as it should and turning away from the gun toting, me first, every man for himself, let the less fortunate rot attitude.
I agree 15 acres is not a large parcel of land for bikes. 70dcb is also not overly loud but if it was constant all day it would certainly annoy the neighbours. By the sounds it's only 1 neighbour that has a problem but this person might be the month for the wider community. CR needs to get an a Acoustic Engineer involved to accurately assess the noice levels along his property boundaries (mainly the complaining neighbour) and construct an acoustic barrier to minimise noise mitigation from his property. You'd be amazed how good an earth mound around 6-8 feet high planted with heavy vegetation will act as an acoustic barrier.
what is it then when the government takes your property by force? fascism to me is......... Fascism advocates a state-controlled and regulated mixed economy; the principal economic goal of fascism is to achieve autarky to secure national self-sufficiency and independence, through protectionist and interventionist economic policies.[13] It promotes regulated private enterprise and private property contingent whenever beneficial to the nation and state enterprise and state property whenever necessary to protect its interests.[13]
@mxmofo. do it.
I guarantee people all over this country living near airports and freeways put up with more than 70 decibels. If there is only 70 decibels at their property line they can't hear it inside their house. As long as he is not riding between 10p and 7a it shouldn't be a problem.
He needs more room. Not enough illegal aliens living near by also...
Next doors neighbors line is only 70 yards away............Plus 2 strokes dont sound like a bunch of Harleys out there.......... I have 100 acers and people b*tch all the time..Plus there are people who tresspass and tell my security who are armed to get the F OUT...You talk about Brazin...I just dozed it all down ..I created the Monster ..I destroyed the Monster... So all of you that were my friends where are you now....Just what I thought you Scum Belly Sap Suckers...Next time you build something on your property, tell them to BEET it !!!!!! if they dont TAKE THEM DOWN ! LOL !
u know "do what ever the hell you want on your land" was an obvious overstatement, and to take it to the extreme as you did is misleading. at least "where you can ride your dirtbike on your own property if you want..........or mb cut down a tree or dig sum dirt> my experience with this kinda story is, the neighbor will use the local government to shut down someone who is slightly annoying to them.
No wonder your name is retardcross.
"Unfortunately for the republicans western society is progressing as it should and turning away from the gun toting, me first, every man for himself, let the less fortunate rot attitude."
Every bit of that sentence spells Socialism!! I work for myself, not to support you dude.. Yes, I worry about me, my right, my family, and I am a gun toting tax paying citizen with constitutional rights set by our forefathers. I suppose we should just progress and erase all that?? Become a country of homo loving fruitcakes that out law stupid shi$ like using red pens.
Whatever..
Reed needs to doze that track, so the birds have a place to land from the long flights.
Reedy is probably thinking of hanging up his racing boots, so of course he's gonna get even with them b!tches.
I am sorry, @motoguzzi, but one sleazy developer and corrupt city council does not make a fascist state.
@texag: People who live near airports and freeways typically know before choosing to live there what they are getting into (although it doesn't stop some from complaining). Take me, I live on a busy residential street and learned to live with the traffic noise which rarely exceeds 65 dB with closed windows. I can live with the occasional loud vehicle too, it just goes with the territory. But now I have a few neighbors with illegal bikes that read over 100 dB, in my house -- that has crossed the line.
retardcross....... , the republicans spend just as much money on the "poor" as the dems do. we have had a "war on poverty "for 45yrs ".........and the poverty #'s continues to grow..........? the problem is not rep or dem........ its rep & dems. the constitution is the answer
it is not an isolated incident..........it has happened often in the US , especially during the bubble. so tell me........when they come for your property how will you feel?
and who the fu#k knows the db level of traffic inside the GD house? holy shit............ we are in two different worlds man.
Unfortunately NOISE is now the biggest enemy for dirt bikes ever since the movement to 4-strokes.. Some idiots think it is cool to get the loudest aftermarket exhaust out there... That is what it Reeds problem, noise, and is a big problem in public riding areas.. Keep screaming those 4-strokes are great guys, noise is a big problem out there..
If you want to own guns for the sole purpose of killing somebody in case "you have too".. and you dont want your tax money going to help the less fortunate--and you are bigoted towards somebody because they dont live their lifestyle like you think they should...fine great.. just quit saying you belong to a political party with "Christian Values" because that way of thinking is very Un-Christian"
@lastbikeRM250 if i were your neighbor I wouldnt let you ride on my track! you probably be the one calling the GD local gvt on me anyways! your name says it all.....LASTBIKE..... i wont have a "lastbike" until im dead........
@texag--the people Reed is having problems with lived their and had their business there long before Reed moved their and put his track there..
who the fu#ck said anything about GD christian values? i said "THE CONSTITUTION" !
@speedshifter you obviously aren't much of a fan of motocross huh? Because if you loved the sport you would want progression of the sport and i love 2-strokes too! i have both. but you cant go around saying 4 strokes are horrible and suck.
Note to Chad Reed:
I used to have a friend way back....his motto was: "there is no problem that can't be solved with violence"
Let me know if you want me to track him down
LOL
if reed was riding twostrokes he would have the same problem. if he as riding stock crf100's..... then the neighbors maybe wouldnt mind. do we all want to ride stockcrf100's? these people are his problem, and he will lose in the end and spend a schit load of money to do so.(the lawyers will make quid) his best intrest is to move away from these people who want to control what he can and cant do on his own property. or buy them out...........
GOD DAMN AMERICA ! a quote from our presidents spiritual mentor ,,,,,,,,,,, juss sayin
@motoguzzi: my last bike was a 1976 RM 250. Do the math, I am too old to ride things that include falling off. And I never cared for street riding. But I am a very tolerant guy, and I doubt I would be turning you in if we were neighbors -- unless you think it's okay to go WFO with a straight piped harley down a residential street dozens of times a day and night.
"i have no problem with gas being 5 or 6 dollars a gallon" guess who said that.........hint , it wasnt Exxon !
lastbike...........we are from two different worlds, but i think a tolerant man would not know the db level of traffic inside his house - i see tolerate and tolerant very very differently
at least for now.........you are free to move off that damned noisy street! im picturing a "pet cemetery" type incident as a distinct possibility !
Batboy sighted!
ok, shutting down the generator and going down into the bunker now.
I live over a half mile from small college in the midwest. Every Saturday that there is home football game. I can hear the name of the runner while trying to make the play over the public address system. Whether it is 1st down or 3rd down I can hear it . And heaven forbid a touchdown. You hear a constant roar for a good 30 seconds. All of this goes on for as long as 3 to 4 hours. The cops never show. Here I am on a Saturday evening and I cannot even hear my steak, I mean hamburger burning.
So somebody else help me out . This is within city limits, not out in the country. So maybe some of the same legislaters can have the football games banned on Friday evenings and on Saturday and Sundays. Yeah Right.
What is the difference between the bark of a PA system or the bark of CR?
Oh I forgot to mention the terrible traffic snarl after the game.
Do as I say , not as I do .
We are seeing one side of the arguement by reading this article so keep that in mind... BUT... Reed has apparently pissed off some neighbors and local officials and that is NOT GOOD for MX because like it or not, he represents all of US! He is a multi time MX Champ and he is looked up to and his actions carry a lot more weight than any of ours and this noise problem is affecting motorcycling in a big way, on road and off road whether you like it or not.
I read about this on another forum a while back and a guy commented and said he was a sheriff in that county and said that the one neighbor the lady was trying to buy that property and reed bought it out from under her so shes had it out for him ever since
I say with all his money he build some sort of noise barrier wall
Move in with JS7 up the street, no complaints coming from that compound. The sign coming into the city has another sign on the bottom; Home to James Stewart Motocross Champion. There, I threw in a JS7 comment into a CR22 story.
I thought you could do anything you want in florida!
AGMAN
PUNK FLAMMER ! LOL !
trblcumn
I seen you today driven a BEEMER ! LOL !
I'm sure that community has it out for him. I remember reading about an airport that was going to start allowing small jets to land and take off and there was a public outcry about the potential noise. The airport officials were going to have some test landing and take offs on a specific date that was announced to the public to see if everything would go without any problems. There was a flood of calls complaining about the noise from the jets. The problem was that there were no jets flying in or out of the airport that day; it had been postponed. Point being, even if Reed did everything these people asked and they couldn't hear him anymore (if they really even can now), they would still want him gone. When people think of dirt bikes, they think of freestyle punks and are immediately against anything to do with them.
@motoguzzi, stick it where your boyfriend sticks it. You showed your stupidity when you said something about Texas, Arkansas and Louisiana being backwards. The people in those states tower above you in class, intelligence and sophistication. Don't pick on them. They're good people.
Pretty sure I read about this on MXA weeks ago. What does he expect when he runs carts after the specified hours with geriatric neighbors??? Of course they're annoyed and are after him.
@motoguzzi: You make it seem like I went out and bought a dB meter so I could sit around and spy on people. I used to do audio engineering and happen to still have the meter I used for calibrations. It still works and this is the first time I've used it on traffic noise. If it was legal noise, or even within reason of legal noise, bothering me, I would agree it would be up to me to move or deal with it. But it's not even close, so I have more options.
Anyone familiar with the demographic of Florida knows that his neighbors are 65+ year old northern folks who complain about everything from youngsters (50 and below), grandkids, anything with a gasoline engine (99% of the developments are golf cart communities). So it is not all that it appears. HOA's are policed by the aforementioned seniors who have nothing to do than to harass all the young whipper snappers!
I'm sorry but no one has the right to total silence especially during the day. When I'm at the track I can sit in my truck with the doors closed and barely hear the bikes and have no trouble sleeping. What about construction noise? mowing? a chain saw? These people are just looking for a reason to complain.
@husky: That noise barrier would do wonders to Reeds piece of mind instead of the headache of battling neighbors all day long.
The real problem is theres too many people in florida nowdays for motocross track owners to live in peace. I remember back when it was basicly just isolated swamp land. In the past 30 years its developed too much, one big tourist attraction.
"He's an absolute, arrogant, unashamed scofflaw..." So they took the time to get to know him. Awesome. Lock him up!
take some of that win bonus money and buy some barriers and some quiet exhaust pipes........oh, say what????? ....awwwwwww....never mindddddd.
Shut it off, shut it off buddy now I shut you down
Man, there are some real hicks on here!! Dumbasses spouting their paranoid fear bull s h i t about "socialism" and "communism", and "fascism".......I really feel sorry for some of you blind fools who live in a constant state of paranoia!!
Put a bigger custom-built Pro Circuit silencer on your CRF250 Shifter Kart. I called PC to see if they would build a system my YZ125 shifter. They basically told me to FO, but Reed, he gets them for free. That 4t kart of his looks wicked and is a guaranteed kick in the arse.
Ohhh how stupid Liberals are..and what ever BD200 is...unemployed gay midget?
The President, in accordance with to the Budget and Accounting Act of 1921, must submit a budget to Congress each year. He has not submitted one on time in the last 4 out of 5 yrs...4 days ago being just another missed deadline by the loser.
NOW I ASK BD200...WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME OBAMA SUBMITTED A BUDGET, AND HOW MANY DEMOCRATS VOTED FOR THAT BUDGET? hint asswipe...Obama's 2012 budget failed 97 to 0 last May.
Then come back and tell me about "obstructionist"
I honestly do not know why the idiots on here reply to me...you always look like idiots when I choose to reply to your ignorance.
Liberals Suck
speedshift u are an idiot, read what i said.......... "some people would say were backward" > hell man i live in one of the states i mentioned ! what i think is right, a lot of people, so called civilized people, would think my thoughts are "backward". schit man learn to fu#king read
WOW!! I agree with Rick Matuzio and Pizzacorner at the same time!! It was December the world was to end right??? Liberalism is a mental disorder most often untreatable.
Honestly guys, I can see both sides of this. It's chad reeds property, he feels he should be able to do what he wants.. However, it would suck to be his neighbor and annoying. It will become a huge battle because both sides want to win for principal, and pride. It's bad exposure for Moto unfortunately.
Funny how on the other blog when I complained about my liberal city banning ATV use on private property, I got bi$ch slapped! I can fart louder than my ATV, but some people on here told me to go buy a house in the country. Those same people came to Reeds rescue here, thanks a lot.
The reality here, is that liberals get upset about other people enjoying life and became haters. They don't like motorcycles and use noise as an excuse. They don't like SUVs. They don't like snowmobiles. They don't like oil. They don't like a Christian cross. The don't like the Ten Commandments. They don't like Christmas. They don't like Halloween. If fact,Minnesota is labeled the state where NOTHING IS ALLOWED.
I'm so pumped up today, I have the sawzall in my hand, I'm cutting the muffler off my pickup today.
Seriously tho. How are Harley's legal?? I get muffler tickets all the time in my car, and I have the most expensive high quality mufflers I can get on it. It rumbles deeply, sounds cool. Yet Harley's crack and pop on obnoxiously ten times louder!! Plus the Harley's sit in front of the bar all night up here, I don't get it.
Mofo- people don't own guns to kill someone. It's a right.. It's mentally insane people that are the problem, not the guns. If a person wants to slam their car in drive, and plow thru a crowd of people what's to stop him? Should we then outlaw cars as deadly weapons? It doesn't make any sense to me. But what do I know..
I am Christian, republican, and American. I just want to be left alone by the government, I can find my way. I also want to keep the money I earn, every Friday there are hoards of welfare people in front of THE LAST PLACE ON EARTH in Duluth waiting to buy synthetic marijuana with their welfare check. Google it..I don't want to pay for that crap
http://minnesota.publicradio.org/display/web/2012/12/18/regional/last-place-on-earth-federal-indictments
The artical says sound levels were meassured at 70dbs. Ladies and gentlemen a law mower is around 81dbs. who in the hell is riding at his property on Saturdays and Sundays, it aint him hes at the races. With that much property spread out like it is there just shouldn't be any problems. Nieghbors are probably libs..
Reed has 63 acres. 24 acres of it are tracks. The neighbors run an organic nursery. Considering the AMA sound test is what, 94 decibels at 2 feet? 70 decibels at the property line is pretty bad. Reed would have no problem if he lived next to other MX riders. The words "organic nursery" don't bode well for him though. Time to move maybe.
http://www2.tbo.com/news/pasco/2010/aug/27/motocross-enthusiasts-flock-to-
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http://www2.tbo.com/news/pasco/2010/aug/27/motocross-enthusiasts-flock-to-dade-city-ar-35972/
I believe Reed and his neighbor have equal property rights and equal rights to enjoy their property. The neighbor should not be allowed to shut Reed down and Reed should not be allowed to ride 24/7.
When someone gets a conditional use permit, there is a hearing and a “compromise” is reached with certain hours and neighbors are good with everything and the rider rides. Unfortunately, when a person gets a permit, suddenly they go from a guy riding within the prescribed hours to 30 people riding at all hours. Happened at our private track.
At our private track, the neighbor called to let us know some people he did not know were riding. Went out and found a group of motocross riders who just tore up our freshly prepped track, were riding without permission or signing a release, were smoking pot, and drinking beer post-ride all the while throwing the empties on the ground. When we asked what they were doing, they told us: “Go F yourself. It is a free country.” I agree with 99% of what you say @Rick, but some people use “freedom” as the basis to trample on the absolute rights of others with no remorse.
Husky`s earth mound or a hedge row idea should be enough, speaking from experience [for firing cannon] once you get on their sh!t list its best ride below the radar for a while
@ SpeedShifter
Those eloquent & well-placed words actually brought a tear to my eye. I foresee a Pulitzer in your near future!
Unfortunately, this story is not unlike numerous other Riding areas & tracks across the Country. As the old adage goes..."know your neighbors".
I'm a big Reed fan and have been for a while now...however, he's hurting all of us common dirtbikers. Jesus, Reed you're a rich guy with access to all the best muffler technology from ProCircuit, FMF, or whatever. PUT A DAMN SILENCER ON YOUR SHIT! Sick of idoit dirtbikers and atv riders losing my places to ride because theyre too dumb to silence their bikes!! Reed should act like an ambassador not a spoiled brat.
Rich prick neighbors looking for controversy because they are pissed off someone else is enjoying life... surprise, surprise
I still have some stickers/Decals from the early 70' that say"Less sound = More Ground) That says it all we have been batlling this for over 40 years! I would say to those people just be glad you can hear it! Because I went deaf, Not because of racing but because they dont know why? Ya have the neibors put some foam int thier ears and be glad they can hear!
Your average lawn mower consistently puts out more than 70 decibels at those distances.
I agree Jon, I also agree that Reed should purchase some big ass mufflers. He is worth 60$ million as of late I guess.
The other option is put a large fence up with sound dampeners around his track, and paint the side facing the neighbors blaze orange.
This is total bs (as most everyone has agreed) I just tested my dryer running it is 62 db and it is not that loud I shut the utility door and cannot hear it. I think Reed shoud take the silencer off and ride a couple of laps. I had a neighbor complain about riding a 125 and I showed him what loud was, never hear from him again. This is the frickin USA I bought the land I can do what I want! I don't like it when my dumb ass neighbor screws his sheep. Do I complaine? no I turn and look the other way.
The interior noise level of the average car at 70 mph is around 70 dB. Do these people get offended driving down the highway? The fact they own an organic nursery speaks volumes. Anything louder than a butterfly probably rattles their Birkenstocks.
Everyone should call and complain to that author, completely one sided story to demonize Reed...
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Bd200 says"Pizzacorner is an idiot who has no life--President do not pass bidgets, and MXMOFO he has presented several budgets, the Republicans automatically throw them out because he is a Dem.. its called "obstructionist" its what they have done since 2008.."
.Ummmm oBama's budget proposal got shot down by the DEM'S in the Sen 99-0 and the house 400+ no vote's , So get your facts stairght insted of bashing the Rep's
4 strokes- slowly killing our sport. If Davey and Honda want to believe otherwise that's up to them but the reality is there's almost nowhere left to ride. The bikes all make plenty of power now, dropping the db requirement to 90 is not unreasonable at all. Supercross used to be loud in the Kingdom but you didn't need ear plugs. Now, in an open air stadium with 4 strokes, you have to have ear plugs or not be able to hear for a day or two.
Jody at MXA has written a couple of great articles about the differences in sound waves etc., they are worth reading.
I've left her 14 messages, she won't call back
Another really important thing that many on this post don't seem to realize- The AMA tests for 94db at 2 feet- but at only 4K RPM! Wide open, current bikes make around 115db.
That's loud by any standard, really loud. Certainly loud enough that your neighbor isn't going to want to hear it all day.
Remember, sound increases logarithmically. It takes a HUGE increase in noise to make another 10 decible, or its 10 times more intense
20 decibles is 100 times louder, an increase of 30 decibles is 1000 times louder
It would be nice to hear Reed's side of the story. He's usually pretty open with his opinions, but his lawyers are probably telling him to keep quiet. I just don't get it. I don't know why he would seemingly have such blatant disregard for the law. And is this the greatest hunk of land in Florida or something? If you have pissy neighbors, buy some land where your dirt bike isn't within earshot of your neighbors.
reed shouldnt be allowed to pollute the air with his noise ! he should be jailed and beaten until unconscious for disturbing the pristine nature of a not-for-profit organic nursery.
are the bikes louder today than they were in the early '70's? i have heard a gate full of 1976 125cc twostrokes with stingers, and they were very loud. so what is different from then to now? assuming the noise is close to being the same. there were more bikes sold in the 70s than are being sold now, so there must have been more people riding then thus more opportunity to annoy more people. what has changed now? are the bikes louder? are are people less tolerant of the noise? do the people have more power now to force a person to conform?
@una-bleeping-dilla: The difference now is just population, there are more people living in a given area than 30 years ago. Urban sprawl, suburban sprawl, you name it. Many tracks across North America have become extinct due to people moving into the area.
@Unadilla--YES, the bikes are alot louder than they have ever been.. 4-Stroke sound travels farther and louder than 2-stroke sound.. Its not population, its how far the sound of the 4-strokes carry..
Reed should have done some homework before building what he built and where he built it.. Those peoples business has been than for years.. And his track goes right up to the property line.. As much as I love to ride, that would be hard to take day in and day out for a business owner..
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Remember kiddies dont work hard for anything in life, cuz there will always be some stuck up jackoff to tell you why you shouldnt have it....
in my lifestyle, those who have a problem with a little noise I make, , hear ONE LAST LOUD NOISE,,,, then ''their'' problem has been solved !!! rick chew says !!!
Soooooooo, Did Chad purchase the property before neighbors lived there?
I believe first come...first serve....However, noise and neighbors rarely get along. I wish him the best and PLEASE be somewhat considerate to your neighbors. We have alot of "Open riding" areas getting shut down. Having your own property to ride on is kinda like a "Privlidge". I know, you do own it...but we have to get along or its time to move to a more secluded...perhaps desolate place to build, ride and live.