by Aaron Hansel
Racer X Race Report: Oakland
Sunday, January 27, 2013 | 6:40 AM
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PrintIf you haven’t programmed your DVR to record the Oakland Supercross tomorrow, stop what you’re doing and go do it now. Go ahead, we’ll wait, you’re going to want to see this. All set? Great. Now let’s get into the action from the fourth round of Monster Energy Supercross in Oakland, California.
Coming into round four, the big questions were if Ryan Villopoto would take another W and start a win streak, and if Eli Tomac would be able to extend his own streak to four in a row. Both questions were answered in a big way, albeit with completely opposite results.
The opening lap of the 450 class was simply crazy. Ryan Villopoto holeshot this race, but behind him there was absolute chaos in the form of a massive pileup. The crash involved TwoTwo Motorsports Honda’s Chad Reed and JGR Yamaha’s Josh Grant at first, but a ton of riders were cleaned out in the melee, including Yoshimura Suzuki’s James Stewart, and Muscle Milk Honda’s Justin Barcia. Plus, Barcia’s teammate Trey Canard and Red Bull KTM’s Ryan Dungey were held up. [Note: we earlier reported that Grant and Reed had gotten together first, with some blame going Grant's way, but further review shows that's clearly not the case. JG was an innocent victim]. The crash sequence is bound to be one of the most watched, rewound and watched again bits of racing all year as fans try to figure out exactly what set the incident off to begin with.
Check out the first turn behind Villopoto.
Photo: Simon Cudby
Photo: Simon Cudby
Barcia got the worst of it. He went down hard and didn’t get up right away. Fortunately he was able to get up and walk off under his own power, but he can’t be happy with two consecutive DNFs. Initial reports say he was winded and that he’s not injured, and we’ll keep you updated as we find out more. Stewart also failed to finish the race, but reports say that is due to a bike problem.
Up front Villopoto was absolutely dominating, and he would go on to win by a massive margin. Points leader Davi Millsaps was all by himself in second on his Rockstar Energy Racing bike, and Justin Brayton ran third on his JGR Toyota Yamaha. Eventually Dungey, who started the race outside of the top ten due to getting caught in that early mess, caught Brayton, and then went inside of him in a corner, leaving Brayton on the ground. He would finish tenth. After the race Brayton was quick to point out that it was nothing more than a racing incident and that he hold any ill-will toward Dungey.
Elsewhere, Canard was riding great coming through the pack, but a small crash exiting a rhythm lane ruined any chances he had at catching Dungey. He took fourth, and Mike Alessi put in a great effort to finish fifth. Andrew Short took sixth on a production Honda. Speaking of great efforts, both Vince Friese and Matt Goerke had outstanding performances tonight. Friese held down fifth place for the first six laps of the race, eventually finishing in ninth, and Goerke ended up in seventh. Reed, by the way, charged back up to twelfth after the second-turn pileup.
Looking at the bigger picture, Davi Millsaps holds onto the red plate for yet another week with Canard seven points back, and Villopoto eight back in third.
The red plate will remain on Millsaps' RM-Z450 for A3.
Photo: Simon Cudby
In the 250s, two streaks were broken. First, JDR J-Star KTM’s Joey Savatgy rounded turn one in first, ending the stranglehold on main event holeshots held by the Lucas Oil Troy Lee Designs Honda team. But, it wasn’t long before one of the TLD riders—Cole Seely—was in the lead anyway, as he and Ken Roczen had motored past the rookie Savatgy. It looked like Roczen was going to make a run at Seely right away, but a bobble over the finish line jump gave Seely some room to breathe for a few laps. But Roczen had been fast all day and was riding exceptionally well, so it was obvious he was going to reload and put together another attack on Seely. The assault came once the race was past the halfway point, and on lap twelve, Seely’s defenses could no longer hold up and Roczen got by in a corner. After moving into the lead, Roczen quickly built up a big lead and maintained it all the way to the checkers, taking his first win of the year. Seely held on for second.
Elsewhere, Jason Anderson rode to a very lonely third in what was a great podium effort, followed by Martin Davalos, who was also pretty much by himself out there. Behind them however, a battle was raging for fifth. The rookie Savatgy was fending off the likes of Zach Osborne, Malcolm Stewart, and Kyle Cunningham. The man on the move in this pack was Cunningham, who had crossed the finish line in sixteenth after one lap. Cunningham eventually got on Savatgy’s tail, and for a brief period the pass seemed inevitable, but fatigue started to set in and Cunningham, who is coming off of a nasty case of the flu, started making mistakes. The errors culminated when Cunningham swapped hard in the whoops leading into the triple, coming about as close to crashing as one can without actually going down. In fact, it was such a crazy swap that Malcolm Stewart went out of his way after the race to find Cunningham and tell him that he couldn’t believe he had managed to keep the bike upright. Stewart benefitted from it and was able to get around Cunningham, and he would then pass his JDR KTM teammate Savatgy with just a few turns to go to round out the top five. Savatgy and Cunningham came through next.
And what about the reigning champ? Eli Tomac’s night couldn’t have gone much worse. After crashing early in the race and starting from way back, Tomac went down again in the first set of whoops and DNF’d the race. At first he sat on the edge of the track holding his leg, but he was eventually able to limp off the track under his own power. After the race GEICO Honda team manager Mike LaRocco said that the team is going to get Tomac checked out to be sure, but as of now, they believe the only injury he sustained was a bruise to his leg and knee. “He’s more mad at himself than anything,” LaRocco said.
After his DNF in Oakland, Tomac now sits in third for the championship.
Photo: Simon Cudby
With that, Roczen suddenly finds himself holding the 250SX points lead. Tomac, who was leading the series by nine points, is now in third, trailing Seely by four points and Roczen by fifteen. Tomac gave up a ton of points last year when he crashed in the whoops in San Diego, and he still went on to win the title, so the championship is far from over for him, but he definitely made things harder on himself tonight, though. Also worth mentioning is Anderson’s third place, which put him back in the top five just a few weeks after not even qualifying for the main event in Phoenix.
Be sure to check Racer X Online often throughout the week for interviews and analysis of the crazy Oakland action.
RV is now up to third in the points standings.
Photo: Simon Cudby
250SX Results
1. Ken Roczen
2. Cole Seely
3. Jason Anderson
4. Martin Davalos
5. Malcolm Stewart
6. Joey Savatgy
7. Kyle Cunningham
8. Austin Politelli
9. Christian Craig
10. Zach Osborne
11. Tyla Rattray
12. Travis Baker
13. Jessy Nelson
14. Chris Plouffe
15. Jean Ramos
16. Josh Cachia
17. Kade Mosig
18. Killian Rusk
19. Jake Canada
20. Eli Tomac
450SX Results
1. Ryan Villopoto
2. Davi Millsaps
3. Ryan Dungey
4. Trey Canard
5. Mike Alessi
6. Andrew Short
7. Matthew Goerke
8. Broc Tickle
9. Vince Friese
10. Justin Brayton
11. Jimmy Albertson
12. Chad Reed
13. Kyle Chisholm
14. Les Smith
15. Bobby Kiniry
16. Josh Grant
17. Cedric Soubeyras
18. Matt Lemoine
19. James Stewart
20. Justin Barcia
250SX Points
1. Ken Roczen – 91
2. Cole Seely – 80
3. Eli Tomac – 76
4. Zach Osborne – 58
5. Jason Anderson – 52
6. Kyle Cunningham – 49
7. Martin Davalos – 48
8. Christian Craig – 47
9. Malcolm Stewart – 45
10. Tyla Rattray – 45
11. Jessy Nelson – 38
12. Joey Savatgy – 38
13. Ryan Sipes – 31
14. Austin Politelli – 26
15. Max Anstie – 26
16. Travis Baker – 23
17. Jake Canada – 21
18. Michael Leib – 16
19. Josh Cachia – 12
20. Jean Ramos – 10
450SX Points
1. Davi Millsaps – 85
2. Trey Canard – 78
3. Ryan Villopoto – 77
4. Ryan Dungey – 68
5. Chad Reed – 65
6. Andrew Short – 56
7. Jake Weimer – 47
8. Justin Brayton – 42
9. Justin Barcia – 41
10. Matthew Goerke – 39
11. James Stewart – 38
12. Josh Grant – 37
13. Broc Tickle – 35
14. Kyle Chisholm – 30
15. Mike Alessi – 25
16. Vince Friese – 24
17. Weston Peick – 22
18. Kevin Windham – 21
19. Matt Lemoine – 16
20. Jimmy Albertson – 12
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RV1 again, love it. Ken Roczen went from 2nd to 15 points ahead of Eli in one night!!! what a night of racing.
At the end of the series Stewart will be helping Hansen drive around the country in the Oscar Myer Hot dog Weiner Mobile for a living !
Someone Give Shorty a ride for crying out loud! 6th on a stock honda??? Come on... TDL.. heres your chance for a 450 rider who can get top 10's all season!
cant wait to see the reed-o torpeed-o!!! and the tomac-kroc battle from snoozer to doozer in 1 race, NICE!!!
First of all congd's to RV for winning again as we know the start can mean the race. What I am a wondering if since it was the first lap and it looks like at least 2/3rds of the classs went down and more were held up by the crash, iin some cases a restart might have been the correct thing to do. from both the riders and spectatorsrs point of view. I guess everyon was off the track before RV came around? I could be wrong but I think I remember a Supercross restart before the TV times were involved? I know I would have been upset if they had called a restart if I was in front of the melee! Yes its racing and the points are all mmoving around so it is still a good year and I am glad nobody got hurt.
The massive pileup was cause by poor track design , all these 180* turns have NO inside option, just a berm, very stupid , so everyone shoots for the outside to get a drive and thats what happens .
Real deal Davi.
Real deal Davi.
Congrats to RV....Sapps has to hear that storm building in his points rearview mirror. "The beast is out der and he's hungry" (Platoon). If it weren't for bad luck Stewart wouldn't have any. Kind of shocking watching him move off the stage season by season. At least we have practices to still enjoy his riding. BamBam been boo booed a bunch bunch lately. Needs to focus on just finishing races for the rest of this season since he's out of it. Tough luck to Tomac, Roxzen is deserving though. WHAT A SEASON!!!
When Reed got hurt racing with RV last year, that was the fastest I've seen 2 guys race for the lead in a long time prior to Chad going down. RV is 101% of that speed. Whether Reed or anyone can step it up to that speed and race with RV is the question. I think the starts need to be made a little safer, buffer them down a bit, the most dangerous part of the race. Bottom line the series sucks when the fast guys are all hurt. Remember 2012 lol. Still stoked for DM18 & TC41. Sorry for Eli but thats the risk when you are racing at "legends" speed. I'm talking Hannah, RJ, Fro, RC speed, he's had it this year.
I'm glad that Dungey finally got aggressive enough to stuff somebody. It's about time.
Nice Job KR94 ! Hope ELI is OK . Boy I sure hope someone foots the Bill for the JDR Gang........Awful lot of Orange in the Results......RD5 keeps chugging along now leave the Damm shock alone ......Chad did great as Well....and Bamm Bamm you have to get to the finish hope he;s OK as well
RV rode great! Millsaps keeps the red plate... Dungey looked much better..Canard salvaged his night..Alessi held on for 5th...Only to 450's to dip into the 54's were the Ryan's...R5 had a 54.86 in his heat and R2 had a 54.99 on lap 2 of the main...
Roczen would have been hard to beat tonight even if Tomac would have keep it up right....hope all is well with him the 250 sx championship just got a lot more interesting
RV is just too on it. 2 holeshots and run away wins. Yeah, the 1st turn pileup easily could have collected him if he was back there, but it didn't. Then he pulled 3 fast laps (a 54 and 2 55's) and was gone. Laptimes looked like he just cruised from lap 4 out and maintained the gap. Any time Millsaps gained a few tenths, he would just level it back out to that 10 second range the next lap. As we know, anything can happen in terms of bad luck at any point from now until Vegas, but he is dialed in......bike and rider. Great to see Dungey make strides in speed too. Was getting worried about him!
The bad luck just continues to follow JS, whether it is self-inflicted or not, it is just bad luck!! BUT, ya gotta be able to get a start to better your chances of avoiding the bad luck sometimes, and he has yet to pull a decent start this year!!! I just want at least one chance to see the guy in the top five and see what he actually does have.....not sure it is going to happen though!! Nice to see RD5 finally get back on the box, Millsaps hanging tough, and ya, look out for the red head boys, he's coming after you!! I was really wanting to see Roczen get a win, but I am bummed for Eli for sure!! Crazy stuff!
^^^^^^
711stretch, had a buddy there, a Josh Grant fan (well, more of a JGR supporter), and he said Josh caused the whole thing. Guess we will see in the nxt half hour.
i became a reed fan last year for the first time , and now what an idiot he is . A shitty attitude , and will not win again . and then he does this stupid move that takes them all out . He needs to go back home , and honda needs to give short a bike..
If tomac and roczen finish 1-2 like they did in the first 3 rounds for the rest of the season they will be tied in points after the last round. This could get interesting :)
Looked like Reed going for inside angle for the turn, didn't know JG there. Pretty routine race incident if they didn't end up in the middle of the corner.
Ya, I don't really see how that is anybodies else's fault but skippy's!!! Way to go C.R.!! What really sucks about the whole thing is that you caused it but you were still able to finish the race!! I'd have much rather seen your retirement than Windham's!!
Hummmm,Let me tell you who started the big crash incident,That would be ol TURD GRANT.Great job Turd you have been trying to take out Stewart for the past three races.You finally got him.Good job Turd.Keep it up.You just keep methodically taking out the top ten riders each race.By the end of the year you might make the top five.
Lets not bash Reedy! Booba did the same thing in 2011 to him. I bet Booba feels the taste of retaliation pills! Lol
They taste like crap!!! Ha ha ha
Bummer for Weimer though. Not being able to race sucks! He was doing good. I hope no one is seriously hurt from that pile up. Great season so far
Grant clealry had nothing to do with the crash other than being the first guy Reed swapped into. Really a crap job of reporting giving him the blame (whether another rider said it or not). I was all set to give Grant what-for only to realize it wasn't his fault. I still don't like the guy but he doesn't need to be blamed for someone else's actions. That was all Reedy last night.
James knee is now done with the wat he came down on it. Didn't look good for Barcia either. They got a nice highlight reel for future SX commercials though....hooray! Unbelievable.
Being able to watch things in slow-motion from different angles is a much better way to analyze a situation than being there in the stands or even being the guy that sees Grant crash into someone. Reed swapped WAY over into Grant (who was on his inside) before Grant ever contacted anyone else.
I dont know why they have to continually use a super tight corner for turn 2 also!Maybe they could have a softer right or left hander followeded by a another softer corner,and then have the track inside of that.Might help to sort things a little more.It is still racing though,and do not know if there really is a for sure combo .But, sure is making the start the most important part of the race...I think that sucks!!!
GD........... welker you are a f "n moron. restart the race because..........why? no one was injured and every one was off the track when the leader came around. this is racing, it aint a movie with a script. some races are good, some are great..... and some are boring. you cant have great races if you dont have some snoozers to relate to.
OOPP's I typed 2/3rds I meant 1/3 of the class and from that pic above it sure looks like a mess.. I still think no matter who's fault the pileup was caused by I feel since it was on the first lap the race should have been Red Flagged and started orer with the people that could still race. I know, I know RV, BillC and a lot of othther would be mad! Yes I have been in the lead and had the race stopped and yes I was pissed also so I can understand it all. Yes they have stopped the race when I was crashed out and lying on the track also so it goes both ways I guess.
MXfloridummy, I'm sure Hanny will be able to repo the Oscar Myer Weiner from your dum a_ _ since you are to retarded to make a living with it, and breaking NEWS Dummy when Stewi does retire he will have enough money not to work if he chooses!
Awesome race for Kenny Boy and comes away with the points lead, love that Joey Savatgy he is going to be a contender. Great back it up win for Villo, stoked Davi still has the red plate. A-3 should be epic.
It absolutely boggles my mind how Tickle and Hill are riding on factory Suzukis and Millsaps isn't. Every time he's on the podium there is no mention of Suzuki because they won't support him. Even Alessi has been finishing better than Tickle. Sometimes I think Suzuki is trying to run their brand into the ground. Truly ridiculous.
Glad to see Kenny get his first win and a bummer for Eli. So Kenny only has to cruise afew 2nd's and the title could be his. I like that Davi once again show what he is made of, good job Davi. Congrat to Poto, expected nothing less from him. Looks like Dungey is starting to find his groove. Kinda of a bummer for the other guys caught up in that melee. I guess that us racing!
As parity between the competitors increases, the design of the track becomes very crucial, if you are to avoid the championship being decided by first lap pile-ups. Something that may have been forgotten after a couple decades of 1-4 riders dominating the series.
MX 40 I agree 100% and Im glad you used the term "riding" and not "racing" for Tickle and Hill cause they sure as hell arent racing. And you forgot to mention how Millsaps has also finished better than the only truly "Factory" Suzuki rider out there. Im sure the whole RCH thing will be over in a year and Cary Hart will find someone else to drop a bunch of money on his circus, I mean race team.
And what was up with a whoop section right after the first turn?? Couldnt they see this one coming?? Way to go Feld, you managed to make your series a little more boring for the rest of the year.
I replayed the second turn crash from the 450 main over, and over again, I did not see any initial contact from JG33 into Reed (there sure could have been). After moving to his left, Reed appeared to be getting control of his bike and getting back on his original line to his right, as they approached the corner it appeared to me Grant pushed hard and ran Reed high into the corner taking everyone else out with him. Every week incidents seem happen near and around him(JG33). For a veteran rider he does not show much for professionalism. Am I the only one seeing this? Retaliation will certainly come.
Bam Bam on the wrong end of the Bam again.
Some interesting points on how a guy excels well on a non factory bike in supercross and another in the outdoors last year. Yet all the resources are spent on non performing individuals in their factory efforts. I guess we could spend the rest of the year scratching our heads on this one. Maybe a couple of these guys are in the best place possible as long as funding continues.
@LBC24 You should watch that replay a few more times.. Reed started swapping all on his own. Swaps to his left in front of JS7.. back too his right, in front of Grant, drops the front and swaps even more collecting Grant as they enter the corner.. Reed came in way too hot because he was swapping everywhere and couldn't slow down exiting the whoops. And when Grant got collected by Reed, same thing happened to him, he couldn't get slowed down quick enough.
They are only going to restart a race if a guy is lying in the track with serious injuries, ala Canard and Morais last year. Almost every race has some sort of incident that takes guys out.
Not sure how anyone watches that and still finds Grant as the problem. It just happens in racing, not blaming Reed either. I will blame a dumb track design though. No whoops right after the first turn please. Every year we hear all the complaints about riders dropping like flies and then we get track designs like that? Won't be surprised to find out Stewart is all done for the year, and maybe Barcia too. Let's hope not, but it would be nice to not have to be wondering if someone is injured today.
How does a track make you crash? Riding/Racing for over 40 years, crashed plenty of times and never ever had a track make me crash.
Would you guys go watch the replay in slow motion and stop blaming riders. Blame the track builders, you don't need a set of whoops right after the start, what did they expect.
Stewart and Reed came together, they actually were ok, Millsaps came way left and clipped Reeds back tire which sent him in front of Grant. Grant couldn't slow up and slammed Reed up the berm. Stewart just happened to be right there and had no where to go. No oes fault, it was a race incident, just like how Dungey checked up in the whoops and Barcia slammed into the back of him because he had no where to go. Give it up and move on, everyones pissed about how JS is done now, he was never in it. The knee was already torn, that just tore the ACL all the way.
br411: I agree with most of your post, but where have you learned that, "JS is done now, he was never in it. The knee was already torn, that just tore the ACL all the way." -- can you post a reference?
His post-race update video only mentions that the wreck tweaked his knee, but broke his throttle.
@Preston--I have seen you post on two different threads here, and all you have dont is tell somebody they are an AS$HOLE or stupid, its all you have contributed.. And both times has been over Stewart....Really dude?? That is sad, and you wonder why some posters are called Stewtards, no other rider means anything to you but Stewart, and if somebody slams him you attack...get a life dude..
@br411-- I agree, how dumb is it to put a set of whoops right after the start.. While all the riders are bunched up still... Reed, Grant . nobody did anything wrong or dirty.. It happens when everyone is bunched in the whoops like that.. One guy gets out of shape and its carnage.. Stupid design there....
@JS is done now?? He was already when the season started, for a title shot anyway... he was never a title threat......
Lastbike...
I only mention that because I have experianced two ACL surgerys. The first was a partial at the Mesquite NV track, it hurt like hell for about 5 minutes. But after that is was ice for a day and back to work on Monday with a slight limp. A year later I smashed it into a berm and that was all she wrote, having it now fully torn is completely different than a partially blown ACL. The way he was limping after the crash shows that it could be gone now. As for not being in it, I think its fair to say that it was going to be very hard for him to break the top 5 this year. That is no discredit to his talent or speed, but when you have an injury like that it holds you back, like we all saw the first three rounds.
I blame Stewart for the 2nd turn carnage.
PROPS TO YOU JS7 FOR BEING A BADASS AND TRYING TO WALK IT OFF
sorry to hear about your throttle man
I'd say the track was to blame. Funneling 20 riders into a tight 180, straight to whoops, into a second 180, and again into whoops was poor design. The track definitely didn't seem as wide this week, either.
I KNOW EVERYTHING.
Iets see, we have a stacked class with many potential winners. How can we make the race more exciting...l know lets put a whoop section right after the start and hurt half of the guys!! Brilliant!!
ok.........no whoops after the start,,,,,,,,, last year it was a triple after the start that canard got smashed........ no 180 turns after the start,,,,,,,,,, christ, you guys want to see a flat track race! WTF? and the track looked as wide as any other sx track ive seen. markymark said it best...........the track never makes a rider crash, the track is only as dangerous as the rider is willing to make it. dueds , grow some balls
@ MX40, CZMark & ronniebarnhardt, I'm glad to hear someone besides me beating that dead horse. Who the he** in this company's racing division can put their big boy pants on and make a command decision? "All-time" worst play calling. Stupid suck-zuki. Like a father to his son, I'm most disapointed in their wasted potential.
@ everybody else that thought the track was hazardous, I'm with you!
Feld, join suck-zuki on the "all-time" worst play calling list for building a dangerous race course in on round #4. You just took half your clowns out of the show due to injuries (and how many more shows following this performance?), is that good business practice in the circus?
@therealmofo
Stewtards will always be stewtards! Lol. Very smart, educated people Lol
@ Preston
If you can't figure it out, my above statement is true!
Lol
It was Bush's fault.
Agree with all the posters here who correctly pointed out that the track design pretty much guaranteed carnage off the start. C'mon guys - 180, whoops, 180?
I love it when Stewart moaned about Reed "Being out of control" in the whoops and then hitting him. NEVER in the history of mankind has there been a truer example of the pot calling the kettle black.
I think they should have put in an over/under bridge.
And hired the Canadian MX announcers!
The crash was definitely Reed's fault. He lost it and was completely out of control before JG made contact.
It was really a bonehead move to put a whoop section in following the first turn. 20 riders in a confined space blitzing whoops. How did they think that would go?
Looks like RV is taking control, but as we saw with Tomac anything can happen. It would've been nice to have JS and JB in the points chase but a four way battle isn't bad.
JS should get the knee fixed now, and prepare for the outdoors..
gracious......... that was a RACIAL statement!!!! ............. i think ? haha
its funny how people just bash the riders mostly js7 like he should get a hot dog stand he has done more than any of the you bashers self made millionaire what have you done
I forgot to mention, way to go Shorty! It's not all about the bike.
obviously its not about the bike..........or the rider, but its all about the track builders! haha you guys are morons........
Bummer, CBS and/or Comcast didn't post consistent scheduling times for the 450 Class, and I recorded Golf (again). Sounds like I missed a freeway pile-up that took out a bunch of contenders.
Does anybody know where a guy might find a re-run of the 450 Class event.
Wow 2 DNF's in a row for the Child of Wild is a tough one to swallow for the lad.
I can't believe Millsaps and Canard are still holding down the top two positions. Not that they are worthy, by any means, it's just nice to see lady luck paying them their dues of reaping some bad luck for so long. And I no it's not all luck, but a lot of hard work, and discipline which is paying off. Good on those two lads.
Speaking of hard work and discipline, I am so glad to see young Ken Roczen shed a monkey and make it to the top box finally, as he has deserved it after knocking on the door of consistency with 3 consecutive 2nd place finishes in a row.
Consistency can be your friend in this unpredictable circus of attrition known as SX... Just say'n!
Whoops Not that they (aren't) worthy. Know (not) No. My Bad!!!
For all you belly akin clowns the race is finnishing up on fuel It is also on tommorrow last round then this round from 6 am thru 8 am ..
BoN apitete !
@ carlsbad
Feld is in the Entertainment biz I, Barnium Baily circus ie, SX , ie, Disney
@therealmofo I'm with you on Preston, anyone who says anything negative about JS7 he jumps down their throat and starts calling them names like a school boy! He has serious tunnel vision for Stewart as a fan. My guess is he still thinks Magic Johnson is going to win a few more NBA titles. To be that dedicated of a fan must be tough since JS7 has done nothing but dissapoint since mid 2009.
@caseypons- you need to set your recorder to record all motorcyling events, this way you wont miss anything. The downside of this is taking a few minutes to delete all unwanted programs that is recorded.
I am just happy Dungey did not have his ears tucked into his hat during his interview. I hate that.
@CZmark; That sounds good on paper, but as I checked this morning after programming the DVR before I left, the 450 race was scheduled at 3:00PM.Then when I returned at 5:00PM, I found I had recorded golf. The only way I could have saved the ship, is if I was here to reset the DVR, but I wasn't....
Hats off to Shorty and Millsaps!
@motoguzzi - Yes, genius, the track didn't give Chad Reed whiskey throttle, but it did throw twenty riders into the same whoops section at the same time. Since you seem to be a bit dim and are probably not a very good rider, I'll tell you what everyone but you already knows. Changing speed or direction while skimming through whoops is very difficult. Your tires aren't in contact with the ground for more than a fraction of a second and you can't turn the front wheel or lean without risking a crash. If you slow down, you risk dropping your front end and going over the bars. You're committed. So when the TRACK DESIGN puts every rider bar-to-bar and tire-to-tire in that situation and a rider in front of everyone crashes, guess what happens to everyone behind that rider? They can't get out of the way, or change direction easily and they crash. So, to sum up, did the track cause Reed to crash? No, and no one said that. That was rider error. Did the way the track was laid out encourage a train wreck to follow? Yes, it did. It's a simple concept, try to keep up.
therealmofo.......posting like the one-track-minded d-bag he always is on here!!LOL
@factory1~The pile up was caused by CR getting out of control in the whoops. It had nothing to do with the 180 turns.
And to all of you RV fans, yes he rode great but it is easy to ride great when you are unchallenged. I think RD had something for RV tonight but never got the chance to prove it so I look to see Dungey putting it to the champ next week. I think TC was the most impressive being that he got caught up in the 2nd turn thing and then crashed while passing Goerke. TC came around first lap in 16th and finished a strong 4th and not too far behind RD. BTW, RD had the fastest lap of the night which was under 55 seconds and it was in his heat race. Great season so far and still early so anything can still happen...well almost anything. JS definitely will not win the championship this year :)
@MX40, that is a very sound perspective..
It's definitely true, that putting 20 Riders on the same whoop section, I guess you are at the mercy of the guy in front and at your back.
And to the guys sayings it's Reedy's fault seems to be watching a different race...
It wasn't anybody's fault... It isn't JG33 neither..
Looking at the replays over and over again, I though reed was able to saved it, until grant clipped his rear wheel. As explained by MX40, it would be very difficult for grant to pull down the throttle, other risked himself of going over the bars, and so torpedoed reeds rear wheel, slamming reedy, reedy slamming to JS ans so forth...
mx40 you are exactly right, i am not a very good rider, only a past top 20 national ride and only earned a top 100 number twice............about 25yrs ago. race sx in the mid 80's on tracks that were way gnarly than tracks now. but the one thing i aint is a whining azzed moron
"GraciousOne wrote: about 12 hours ago
I love it when Stewart moaned about Reed "Being out of control" in the whoops and then hitting him. NEVER in the history of mankind has there been a truer example of the pot calling the kettle black."
Haha no kidding! I recall Reed getting torpedoed down onto the concrete with his bike on his back by a certain someone a lot more out of control in a whoop section in 2011.
On another note, that first turn pile up was just a racing incident why is everyone looking for someone to crucify? To me ultimately the blame lies on Reed, who just happens to be one of the most consistent, experienced, smooth, smart riders on the gate. It's racing, sh*t happens!
Ahhhhh you are all such keyboard thumping, whining, b*tcheeessss!!
1. RV is on it
2. ET is on it... just had some bad luck. Glad to see Kroc get a good ride, but Eli will be back.
3. The first turn crash sucked. But all you guys crying about who caused it are PATHETIC. Like these guys TRIED to wreck everyone!?!? Are you kidding me? These are the fastest riders in the world, and you people are bashing them.
* Note - None of the camera angles showed the crash early enough to see the very beginning. From what you can see, Reed clearly was out of control and faded right into Grant, then back left... by that time Grant was out of control and slammed into Reed, which caused the rest. I feel like you guys are blind, or just plain stupid if you dont think so....
This winter is dragging, or everyone has become more of a self proclaimed critic. Everyone needs to get out and smell some premix because you sure all just whine and complain a lot on here when nobody can go half as fast as these guys you complain about...
@preston dont you have to go hate somewhere else for a while.....
Everything I saw was just racing. Millsaps and Reed were both driving through the whoops and BOTH merged into the same line. Reed got the crap end of it. As he pushed Grant toward the tough blocks - I was actually impressed with Grant's ability to keep it on two wheels. But all that effort left him unable to turn - bam.
Dungey and Barcia appeared to be somewhat unrelated. It looked like Dungey just flat out took Barcias line from him. Not sure if Barcia couldn't check up or refused, but he didn't handle it well.
I'm also amazed that of all 20 dudes, how often Reed and JBS can find each other.
I love how people blame the track. SX is all about a good start. RV was the fastest at A1 but having to pass 15 guys put him in bad places.RD takes less chances and rises to the top in the standings. Its all about approach. Make sx 20min plus 2 laps and things will change. Fastest guys taking less chances early. The other option is to take out the woops and jumps on the first lap so everyone's favorite doesn't get taken out.(sic) LOL Bring on the outdoors.Real racing less carnage. SX season wipes out half the top ten ends more careers.
short gets 6th weather he rides factory equipment or not.
second turn pile-up is caused by track design.