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Bench Racing Ammo: Winning Immediately

Wednesday, January 16, 2013 | 11:30 AM

After just two starts in the premier class of AMA Supercross, Justin Barcia has a win. Where does that efficiency rank in supercross history compared to how soon other well-known riders won their first main? Have a look:

-- Davi Millsaps won the sixteenth supercross race of his career in the premier class.

-- Jean-Michel Bayle won the thirteenth 250 Supercross he ever raced.

-- Trey Canard needed twelve races before he won for the first time on his 450, at Houston in 2011.

-- Josh Hill needed eleven races before he won in 2008 on his YZ450.

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It took Trey Canard twelve races before his first 450SX win in Houston in 2011.
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-- Larry Ward won his eleventh race in the class, after running a few off-coast 250 rounds in 1989 and then the Seattle Supercross in his rookie year, 1990.

-- Ryan Villopoto also needed just eleven races before notching his first 450 Supercross win, which came in Seattle in 2009.

-- Ron Lechien took ten mains before he won the '83 Orlando SX, which was a few less than Ricky Carmichael needed in 1999-'00 before winning at Daytona '00.

-- Kevin Windham needed nine races to do the trick for the first time, in 1997 at Charlotte. K-Dub was still a full-time 125 SX rider who would moonlight in the 250 class on the East, which made him the first rider we can think of that ever won a 250 SX while racing the 125 class full on the opposite coast.

-- Mark Barnett needed nine races before he broke through at the Los Angeles Coliseum in 1979. Nine is the same amount Jeremy McGrath needed, as he rode six events in '92 before winning the third race in '93, his first full rookie season.

-- The Cobra, David Vuillemin, won his eighth-ever start in AMA Supercross, the 2000 San Diego SX.

-- Ryan Dungey needed five mains on his RM-Z450 before he won in Phoenix in 2010, which he won again in 2012 on a KTM.

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Ryan Villopoto needed eleven races before his first win in Seattle.
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-- Chad Reed did four races in the premier class early in 2002, but focused on 125 East and took that title on a YZ250F. He then started the next year by winning the Anaheim '03 opener, his first start as a full-time big-bike rider and fifth race ever in the AMA Supercross class.

-- James Stewart needed three main events before he won the '05 Dallas SX, four if you count him crashing in practice at the second round of the series in Phoenix and breaking his arm.

-- Sebastien Tortelli won his second AMA Supercross ever, the '98 Los Angeles SX opener, but he was already a world champion on the GP circuit, and had a full year of 250GP experience under his belt.

-- In 1989 Damon Bradshaw rode one race in the premier division -- San Diego -- and finished third, then stayed on the East Coast and won that 125 class title. However, Damon was planning on racing a few more 250 races in '89, but he jacked his back in a heat race crash at Anaheim and had to drop from the race -- so he was racing, he just didn't make the main. At the start of the next season, the Anaheim opener, Bradshaw won his second 250 SX main event start ever.

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Josh Grant won his first race in only his second career 450SX start.
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--Many would think Josh Grant is first all-time on this list, since he won Anaheim 1 at the start of his first 450 season in 2009. But JG actually rode one 450 race in 2008 as a member of the GEICO Honda team -- where he finished a quiet sixth in Seattle. That one 450SX start might have given JG a tiny bit of experience, but had he skipped that one, he'd be the only rider to ever win the very first premier-class SX ever. That's a record that would be impossible to break!

-- Justin Barcia did the same this weekend when he stormed to the win in only his second-ever 450 main event, held seven days after his first race in the class, which on the calendar, is the shortest time ever!

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endoman38 wrote: 11:36am January 16, 2013

I know he rode the outdoors on the 450, but I don't remember him in sx on the 450. Of course, there's lots of things I don't remember.

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cbr17 wrote: 11:46am January 16, 2013

I would count the Monster Cup for this list because almost all of the legitimate race winners were there and Barcia won the overall. Definitely not a true supercross format and technically it was the 2nd moto of the night that he won but still.... Maybe I'm reaching a little bit like Matthes and Weigandt like to do.

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UPSMAN16 wrote: 11:49am January 16, 2013

He likely rode a 450 at Bercy but no home turf stuff except for MEC as stated and outdoors. GO JB51 silence the haters!!!!

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pizzacorner wrote: 11:56am January 16, 2013

Speaking of AMMO, our Communist Leader Obama is taking more of our rights away at 11:55pm today.

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davidl wrote: 12:03pm January 16, 2013

Justin- really I am a big fan but could you clean up a little ?? you look cheeesy. All that goes away when you ride with such talant and heart- you go MAN !!!

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Rich1 wrote: 12:10pm January 16, 2013

Marty Tripes won his first ever supercross race (the first ever supercross race as a matter of fact) and he had just turned 16.

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meankx wrote: 12:15pm January 16, 2013

Great thing he accomplished! Wonder if Tomac can get a W in first try

@ pizzacorner

What that commie-headed f$)(k is up to??? Don't follow news

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Maico25 wrote: 12:15pm January 16, 2013

I love Barcia, have pulled for him from the start. Villo is still the man I pull for though but if he can't make it happen I like to see some of the newbees do good. I think things are going to reset very soon. I'm thinking Barcia can't hardly believe how easy that was last week and that he might be that much better than the rest, but I think he is going to be surprised and his confidence might get him in trouble as soon as some of the others get a couple of clicks on their suspension and hook up out of the gate.

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Uncle Charlie Birmingham, AL wrote: 12:19pm January 16, 2013

Grants last stand !!!

ONE-HIT WONDERS & WHAT THEY WON WHEN THEY WON THE ONE THEY WON

SUPERCROSS
Ricky Ryan (1987 Daytona 250)
Doug Dubach (1991 San Jose 250)
Josh Hill (2008 Minneapolis 450)

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MustardDog wrote: 12:26pm January 16, 2013

Martin Tripes- top o' list

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Uncle Charlie Birmingham, AL wrote: 12:28pm January 16, 2013

The revised track map looks a lot better .. I sure hope who ever did the first addition will sit his butt on the sofa with his bag of dorittos and take notes! Let that be a valued lesson to learn from messin with the racer x crowd !

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mxmofo1 wrote: 12:30pm January 16, 2013

@meankx,, He's putting more restrictions on guns...

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BD25 wrote: 12:30pm January 16, 2013

Honda has been grooming Justin Barcia for many years. They even built an ad campaign around him, when they launched the CRF 150. Since that time, Justin has been the rider Honda hoped would bring the brand back into championship dominance, something they had not experienced, since the departure of McGrath and Carmichael.

Undaunted by the presssure and the naysayers, who thought he was to wild to succeed, Justin Barcia delivered that success in the 250sx, winning two titles. Justin never was able to capture the 250 outdoor crown, some began to doubt him, but Honda never lost faith. They moved him up, mid way through the 2011 250 outdoor series, after poor results, to fill in on a 450. Barcia doubters were quickly quieted, when Justin showed promising results on the 450, able to run up front with the leaders immediately.

Barcia winning on the biggest stage indoors, this early, may be a surprise to a lot of us, but it is what Honda has been pinning its hopes on for along time. Honda knows he has only won 1 race so far in the premier division, but they are quietly confident, it will lead to a championship, if not his year, in the very near future. Justin Barcia is no longer the boy Honda hoped would return them to glory, Justin Barcia is the man Honda knows will take them back to the promised land..

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therealmofo wrote: 12:32pm January 16, 2013

Please dont address pizza-idiot and lets keep this about moto, he has no real life anyway..

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Rocket76 wrote: 12:34pm January 16, 2013

Big Barcia fan since his Hangtown holeshot...Love that race Grant hole shot the feild there in his 1st outdoorsMX, then fell as Barcia did too... Tomac rode the whole moto won it 1st time out so Watch out when Eli hits the 450's I could see him rocket to the front and not lose his head. Big time cudos for Barcia not screwing up and staying on the pipe to win it. Canard is looking great , just hopes he calms down at the end. The vets might be sweating if these intruders keep running the show.
Pizzacorner hmmm seems you need to stay in your pizza box your no good for this world with your narrow minded ideas. Do you need a big clip to make up for something else? You come off as a loser cheering a loser cause enough said this is MX not your politics but couldn't help saying
Looking forward to A 2 ride on

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Chilllmatic wrote: 12:40pm January 16, 2013

Pretty sure Dungey won round 2 in 2010. Two mains, not 5.

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Blackjack wrote: 12:46pm January 16, 2013

Pierre Karsmakers won first supercross on the books. I guess by default he can be the one that did it in his first attempt.

I consulted the vault. Memory not my strong suit. haha

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JonR145 wrote: 12:48pm January 16, 2013

@Chilllmatic, you are correct. I was there. Great race with lots of unfortunate carnage.

As to Barcia, I am warming up to his shaggy look. I think there may be a "Samson" thing going on here. As such, do not cut the hair and stay away from women with scissors whose first names start with a "D".

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SeventiesRacer wrote: 12:50pm January 16, 2013

Hmmmmmm....reports in the news say that the number of ER visits by "Energy Drink Users" has spiked, and that Energy Drinks are a new health hazard for our youth and teens........

Whether we believe it or not, the "media" have picked up on it and are brainwashing the sheeple to believe it.

This has a potential to NOT BE GOOD for our sport.

To be fore-warned, is to be fore-armed..........

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wiles715 wrote: 12:53pm January 16, 2013

ahahha pizza corner u better stay in your pizza box

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cbr17 wrote: 12:54pm January 16, 2013

I'm thinkin if Honda will give two two another bike, Reedy needs to sign Tomac if Geico doesn't re-sign and put him on a 450. If KDub doesn't turn it on midway or near the end of the season (He usually does and I think he will) we'll probably be seeing him hang his helmet up and Geico may want to keep a 450 and Tomac at the races, I sure would. They've been running a big bike since the beginning of their existence. Off topic but something to think about.

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CZmark wrote: 12:57pm January 16, 2013

@JohnR145- I think you hit the nail on the head "Shaggy". Its those Scooby snacks that make him go so fast. But you are right, cutting those locks could be his downfall.

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BD25 wrote: 1:08pm January 16, 2013

Chillmatic Suzuki allowed Ryan to race 3 times in the 450 class in 08. Indianapolis, Daytona and in Minneapolis where he finished 2nd to Hill...That is why they called it 5...mmmm wins his 5th supercross, runs the #5, sure it is a coincidence...

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chromob wrote: 1:14pm January 16, 2013

On the night josh hill won his one ( and only ) it was Ryan dungey that finished second. He raced a few east coast rounds on the 450 making Phoenix in fact his 5th start. He didn't ride a 450 in 09 apparently to concentrate on the west coast title.

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chromob wrote: 1:18pm January 16, 2013

BD25 with the holeshot on that one. Damnit.

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FenderFreddy wrote: 1:21pm January 16, 2013

Several replies point out how the "statistics" used in the "article" are technically flawed. And this makes the claim invalid. Oops!

Who says the motocross/supercross fans are mentally challenged? Because it is apparent that RacerX has some critical readers!

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suzuki211 wrote: 1:23pm January 16, 2013

As long as # 51 is doing his job, I don't think anyone should mind a little "Shaggy". It gives Justin some character off the bike, under the helmet, doesn't matter. Think Hannah days. Oh well!

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Uncle Charlie Birmingham, AL wrote: 1:30pm January 16, 2013

PORN stach !

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Rich1 wrote: 1:34pm January 16, 2013

@blackjack

The supercross name was not used until 1974, however, the first supercross (motocross inside a stadium) is widely considered to be the 1972 super bowl of motocross in the LA coliseum which Marty Tripes won. It was not yet referred to as Supercross so that is why he is not listed as the first one in the vault.

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NikolaTesla wrote: 1:43pm January 16, 2013

Finding out that energy drinks are bad for you will hurt our sport? A: anyone who didn't already know that cramming a ton of sugar and caffeine and God knows what else into your body is bad for you, was probably a pretty dumb individual anyway. B: our sport survived when we stopped using alcohol and cigarettes as sponsors. We will survive if we lose energy drink sponsors.

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laecutter wrote: 2:08pm January 16, 2013

Rich beat me to the first turn which is not hard to do now days, but will add it was Tripes first legal ama pro race. Wonder what the history books would look like if Tripes had just attended the Joel Robert school of riding and passed on the Joel Robert school of off track training. Regardless two motocross immortals.

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rickamatuzio wrote: 2:08pm January 16, 2013

If I said Obama plans to remove all rights to race Supercross, because its a dangerous and environmentally damaging sport, would anyone care then??

It's a shame, the reason this country is going down the toilet... Because nobody cares about the important stuff. Unbelieveable..

When dirt bikes are outlawed, maybe you guys can talk about how great it WAS.. Because its the direction we are headed.

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tonewall wrote: 2:20pm January 16, 2013

"rut ro...shaggy can ride"...signed Scooby...AWESOME.. better 'clean up' or Davidl won't let you on the corporate golf course....I like the " I slept in my gear look " its AWESOME...and all people mostly see is his back anyway....go RV go 51 and 41. AWESOME racing......

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ryanwagopoto wrote: 2:26pm January 16, 2013

May I use one of Barcia's preferred response "lines"???___"YEAH, FOR SURE", he's fast and will continually be a threat as one of the elite racers. I just wonder if he is still going to cry and pout when he does not get a win, or when things don't go his way? Tomac coming up is going to get well-deserved attention also. I don't see anybody on a 250F surpassing, or continually equaling his pace. Sure Roczen, may get a win, or two, but Tomac's looking (another Barcia word) "AWESOME"!

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Retardcross wrote: 2:28pm January 16, 2013

@ rick.....Firearms and supercross aren't comparable. Pathetically lax control in supercross isn't killing innocent bystanders and children in masses once per month like firearms are. Rights come with responsibilities and it's time for you Americans to wake up, step to the plate, and try to curb all the sensless gun violence in your country. Beating your chests about the 2nd amendment and patriotism clearly isn't cutting it along with the attitude of universal healthcare being some socialist evil. You don't want gun control, you don't want healthcare available to the people who need it most, so the bodies of innocent people will continue to pile up. Obama is the best thing you guys have had since Clinton.

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laecutter wrote: 2:34pm January 16, 2013

rick, I think the country answered your second question in the last election are we going to put someone in office (Con. Sen. Pres.) that will help the poor and middle-class and stick it to the rich, or do we put someone in that is going help the rich and stick it to the poor and middle class?? Guess what happen both the poor and rich won and the middle-class paid.
Remember not too long ago the government was trying to outlaw mini bikes because of all the kids chewing on them and getting lead poisoning LOL. But I digress this is about Supercross/Motocross and we all need to keep that mind-set and have a place to escape the political world even if for a brief moment.

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Misoheye wrote: 2:41pm January 16, 2013

Always someone with another wait until..... made up scenario in their heads. When he ran the 450 in MX was top 3 right off, got a moto win. Was the best rider we had at the MXoN. Won the MEC. Won his first SX heat race. Should have won first race, won the 2nd. Undefeated in heats and is close to winning practice(haha). Keep making up scenarios boys, this kid has all the pieces. Sure the other guys will improve. Do you think this is his peak? Granted there are 15 more races, it's hard to argue the fact that unless somebody steps up(RV), he won't have to ride balls out. I believe RV knows that this year will be hard and next year will be worse.

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Misoheye wrote: 2:53pm January 16, 2013

Obama clearly said it is up to the PEOPLE to tell their congressmen how to vote. America will decide. Dimwits! While you guys are all fired up at the "commi/muslim" saying it is time for the citizens to make a choice, here in NY our governor(white christian guy) has already passed into law gun control measures with no input from the public. Thinking Obama is going to take your guns is almost as stupid as thinking these controls will work. A little education goes a long way.

@retardcross...As a canadian your input is not needed nor is it welcome.

Barcia goes 2 in a row next week. DOUBLE STAMP with the POPE"S and NRA'S blessing!!!

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McMoto wrote: 2:57pm January 16, 2013

I could care less what someone looks like under their helmet, we all looked like that when this sport was getting off the ground in the early days.

@Pizza, RickyM I got your 6:00 on this one.

Retard, You come from some country that doesn't approve of Armed citizens ? If it wasn't for USA having that right we'd still be waving that friggin'; Union Jack.

Sorry about the rant Moto Brothers, back to bikes now.

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therealmofo wrote: 3:26pm January 16, 2013

@Mosoheye--Now I guess we are bigots to others?? Retardcross has an opinion and he is allowed and welcome to say it, because we are a free Nation right?? Or is if his opinion differs from yours then it suddendly isnt welcome??

I agree with you on your first post about the Gov. of NY and how prophets of doom are already saying we will lose every right and all. But dont jump all over a guy for his opinion, just because he isnt from the US.. That just makes us ugly Americans..

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tonewall wrote: 3:27pm January 16, 2013

Go to some political site and talk about that stupid garbage you can fix with your opinion ALL YOU WANT....I have to hear and read about that stuff all day on radio and tv...some of us come here to ESCAPE IT. aholes.

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NikolaTesla wrote: 3:34pm January 16, 2013

@tonewall AMEN!!!!!

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adamact1 wrote: 3:43pm January 16, 2013

I feel very sad and disgusted by what happened to those children. I would love to see something positive done to protect children in the future. The direction that the governments are headed with this is not the right one to help the children. Reduction in clip size? I can drop an emply clip and place a full one in a firearm in under 1.5 seconds. How is reducing clip size saving anyone? How is registering a firearm helping anyone either? All that helps is for us to identify if the gun was the shooters after the event. Please help the children, not take rights away that will have no affect under the banner of helping these children. Arm the guards or something that will work.

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Misoheye wrote: 3:48pm January 16, 2013

@realmofo...I just don't believe someone that does not live here should say things like that about our constitution. If he can say his opinion I can say mine. I just live here so it might be more valid.

Sorry to every one else. I got pulled into this mess and will end it there.

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wiles715 wrote: 3:55pm January 16, 2013

good weather, hott chicks .supercross and motocross is the only thing america is good for anyway

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Uncle Charlie Birmingham, AL wrote: 3:59pm January 16, 2013

adamact1

Yes we al know what happened was horriable ! But my local new had a story about someone local that was doing something for that town which is over 1000 miles away.. What about that local person doing something for there own less fortunate LOCALLY !! I thought it was a bit much.. She was making pies here to ship to the towns people were the shooting was !!!!!!!!!!! Really bake a pie for our homeless here !

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Retardcross wrote: 4:05pm January 16, 2013

@ Misoheye....Whether you approve or not doesn't matter...

"Retard, You come from some country that doesn't approve of Armed citizens ? If it wasn't for USA having that right we'd still be waving that friggin'; Union Jack."

@ McMoto....And if that was the case you'd be a lot less violent of a country ;) . We don't generally approve of or encourage people walking around strapped because it just isn't necessary (more guns, more gun problems, basic logic and numbers game) and we encourage strict control over weapons because along with the right to own is also a lot of responsibility and there is no denying that. I think it's great that it's difficult for us to obtain weapons that only have the purpose of killing people (semi-auto assault style rifles, handguns) because it keeps the numbers low and mainly in the hands of people who pass extensive screening. It's a matter of control vs. free-for-all like you guys have, not banning. Your gun policies/loopholes for purchasing are ultra slack and it's way too easy for the wrong people to get a hold of them, bottom line. Actions speak louder than words, if Americans care about the safety of the public and eachother we will see changes occur although I highly doubt it. I've always struggled to understand how having a strapped society with guards at all public centres is "freedom", sounds more like a police state to me. Hopefully the USA can find some peace and stop shooting itself up in the name of the 2nd amendment. I feel like us Canadians are more impacted about your repeatedmass shootings than you guys are, because any attempt to try and curb the situation down there is shot down with disapproval. Hopeless or not, gotta try something because the status quo ain't cuttin it and doing nothing is not right.

End of political rants for me lol...

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Fubar117 wrote: 5:01pm January 16, 2013

@Sloan Don't forget Chicken at Las Vegas in '90!! His only win also & Mike Craig in his brief stint with Factory Yamaha (forgot the year)

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wiles715 wrote: 5:04pm January 16, 2013

@fubar..it was 1994...maybe 95

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UPSMAN16 wrote: 5:12pm January 16, 2013

The sad part is the people who want the strict gun control laws that do nothing are the same people who hate anything with a motor, that they feel we dont need, especially 2 strokes, lest we not forget that our own king of supercross had to fight for the right to ride on his own property? Liberalism is a mental disorder which makes people thinks the government knows best, they want cradle to grave nanny state all controlled by the power hungry narcacists.

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jeramey wrote: 6:00pm January 16, 2013

as a honda guy I'm loving the succes that these guys are having I'm a little torn as RV and JB are two of my favorite guys. But as a fan of racing in general as long as the best guy won I'm happy with that.

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snopro35x wrote: 6:02pm January 16, 2013

Barcia is a modern day Bob Hannah, ragged hair, ragged riding style!

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jeramey wrote: 6:05pm January 16, 2013

barcia is looking good though if you think about the fact that hes won 3 out of 4 races he's been in counting the heats since A1. with milsaps next in line with 2 out of 4

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meankx wrote: 6:12pm January 16, 2013

@ UPSMAN

You got that right!

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haul77 wrote: 7:25pm January 16, 2013

not a free country anymore. loosing rights everyday. cant afford that bike, put it on credit. your kids would be happy to pay for it. that new bike wont help you anyhow. I will clean you stupid liberal a$hes on the track. I am ashamed that you dont care. Moto lovers? should love the freedom we enjoy , not just believe the media. Sorry you got me started

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Acejas wrote: 7:31pm January 16, 2013

I think its kinda dumb to count the rider's part time stints when they're still fully commited to 125's/250f's. I mean they're pretty much just testing then and not fully commited especially for wins. If you only count races in there 1st FULLTIME season, then it's Bradshaw 1st, Reed 2nd, Grant 3rd, then Barcia 4th after Dungey.

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RedPlatesForEveryone wrote: 8:54pm January 16, 2013

The article didn't tell us how many races it took RC to win his first, all it says is:

"Ron Lechien took ten mains before he won the '83 Orlando SX, which was a few less than Ricky Carmichael needed in 1999-'00 before winning at Daytona '00."


How many more than Dogger did RC take?, or is it ten and I'm just reading this wrong?

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yz692 wrote: 9:14pm January 16, 2013

RETARDcross-------what rock did you come out from under???? Wake up!!!! Are you serious? What are you going to do when the tree huggers take away your rights to having off-road fun?? I know one don't have much to do with the other(bikes and guns) but it's still our right to enjoy!! I'll keep my AR-15--I'll keep my Glocks----and I'll keep my rights--thank you very much and you can put up your Gun-free zone sign right in you front yard if you want too!!!

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rickamatuzio wrote: 10:32pm January 16, 2013

Sure wasn't hard to get the political talk going.. I just had to watch it happen!! Too funny.

Banning guns won't do dick. People can drive a car thru a playground and kill just as many, plus 10x as many people die EVERYDAY from knives and bats.
Documented fact.

Stick up for your rights, like your right to ride. We have lost 30% of our tracks in mn from govt legislation, more to come. Slippery slope..

Let me dumb this down to the blog level.. Albertson will win this title!! After all, quite a few on here think he is faster than Dungey (lcq).
Any government restrictions on Alternating Current yet Nikola Tesla?

Dont stop Misoheye, I enjoy listening to people that make sense.

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rickamatuzio wrote: 10:45pm January 16, 2013

By the way, every state.. that has approved `conceal and carry has a lowered crime rate. Google it. If every kindergarden teacher had a revolver under her skirt, or his garters.. who the hell would dare attack a school?

Deterrents work amazingly well.. if your caught riding a dirt bike in Saudi Arabia, they chop your throttle hand off at the wrist. Nobody rides...

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JonR145 wrote: 10:54pm January 16, 2013

@rickamatuzio, how did MN lose 30% of its tracks due to government legislation?

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JonR145 wrote: 11:26pm January 16, 2013

@rickamatuzio, the reason I ask is Gov. Pawlenty signed into law Minnesota Statute 116.07, subd. 2a which specifically protected race facilities from any noise regulation at all. Racing facilities petitioned the legislature for this law and once passed, it gave a green light to every motocross track or other racing facility in existence prior to 1997 to be free from any governmental regulation (other than sales or property tax and general cleanliness standards). Since noise has been the primary lethal weapon to shut down motor racing facilities, I was under the impression MN was ahead of the curve in its protection of MX tracks and other racing facilities.

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mikeo wrote: 11:33pm January 16, 2013

the criminals already have the guns and high round mags,,,if they dont well they will steal them,,the local news papers listing the registered gun owners is wrong,its telling the scumbags where to go to steal them,i agree this is a moto site but,take away one thing they dont like the next will come easier

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FenderFreddy wrote: 11:45pm January 16, 2013

An "article" implying that the two current Team Honda riders will take over the 450 class seems unsubstantiated as well as premature .... Bad writing as usual!

No wonder the gearheads talked about guns throughout THE CONVERSATION.

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NikolaTesla wrote: 9:19am January 17, 2013

@ Rickmatuzio how did i get involved in your gun debate? Seventiesracer decided to use a motocross website as a pulpit to get his panties in a bunch because someone on the news had the nerve to point out that drinking a crap load of sugar and caffeine is bad for you. That automatically becomes some kind of conspiracy. Do we not need to know if something if bad for us? I am opposed to any govt intervention on this, as a parent I'll keep energy drinks out of my kids hands. If the AMA (or whoever makes the decisions in motocross) decide they don't want to associate with energy drinks anymore, like they did with cigarettes and beer, the sport will survive. I didn't mention govt regulation of anything once. I am a gun owner who is embarrassed by the way a lot of gun owners are acting in light of recent events. The liberals want laws that make no sense and the conservatives have arguments that are just dumb. Number one on my list of dumb actions by gun rights activists is coming on a motocross website to argue gun control.

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rickamatuzio wrote: 9:40am January 17, 2013

Just trying to get some blood boiling!! I missed the torpedoes people were throwing during the top 30 list. That was fun..

I like your name tho.. Nikolas Tesla was an amazing engineer and pioneer for electricity.

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rickamatuzio wrote: 9:54am January 17, 2013

Deer River, St. Croix falls, and I can't remember the other track because it was before my time.. But from my understanding were removed for a few reasons. EPA was concerned about "pollution" near wetlands, and afraid that fuel and oil being so close was a hazard. They were also concerned about noise.. Not only were people complaining, but they protested by do-gooders for wildlife! I will find out that other track my buddy used to race it, I believe it was within a few miles of a tree farm.

I am all for being environmentally conscience, don't get me wrong. I also understand the noise issue.. But if environmentalist ALWAYS got their way, we could never ride. We need to share.. We developed snowmobile/motorcycle trails here in Duluth, paid for by our association. Now the sled doggers, and hikers are trying to take it over and don't want ATVs on it because they make ruts and are noisey. However they were made for us to begin with! Doesn't seem fair.

Tim Pawlenty was the best thing that happened to MN, these tracks were gone before he arrived.

We are trying to open a track near Moose Lake Mn, where another track was forced to shut down 20 years ago.. We are battling the people complaining we are being a nuisance to wild life!! We are trying compromise by riding once a week but they won't even give on that.

All I can say is I don't complain when these people done bathe, shave or use deodorant, and I find that annoying. Maybe I should start protesting them for being a hazard

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NikolaTesla wrote: 9:55am January 17, 2013

He also invented the radio, the speedometer, the electric motor, remote control, and numerous other things we use daily........but that's for another website.

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rickamatuzio wrote: 10:02am January 17, 2013

By the way, I was addicted to sugar free red bull for 2 years. I drank 3 cans a day and it was very expensive habit. It's almost like once you start, if you don't get your fix you feel like crap!! I had to find a natural caffeine replacement made by Advocare called SPARK. My fitness guru Chris and PMA got me on it and I feel much better. He said the aspartame is what's really hurting our society.. He knows his health stuff. If I would have had him helping me as a kid, I would have made it as a pro instead of drinking Mountain Dew and eating pizza before trying to qualify for a national.

Energy drinks=bad!

@jonr I wished more riders in minnesota were like you. Our sport is dying up here..

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Misoheye wrote: 10:45am January 17, 2013

@rick....Oh yeah that aspartame is bad news. It turns to formaldehyde in your brain,leads to tumors. Some types of orange soda if left somewhere like a hot car also make formaldehyde. Not to mention the stuff that leaches out of the plastic bottles. Lots of studies. Check it out it scares me on so many levels. Mt.dew,sun drop and alike are being linked to kidney stones in kids, especially down south. Dr.'s there often refer to it as sun drop disease. The EPA started out as a good idea but, has turned into typical red tape bs.

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Retardcross wrote: 11:03am January 17, 2013

I don't understand the mentality of "everyone is out to get me and steal my rights and freedoms so I have guns to defend myself from everything" and that seems to be the trend with the pro guns for everyone crowd. Stop living in fear and paranoia of everyone and anything with different interests than you, it's a much more relaxing way to live.

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rickamatuzio wrote: 11:41am January 17, 2013

Sounds good in theory but the squeaky wheel gets the grease. And activists are always out there worried about what your doing.. That's why they are winning and we are losing rights fast. Unfortunately nobody says anything UNTIL it affects them.

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britisharmpump wrote: 1:00pm January 17, 2013

hmm JB51 i expected him 2 win afew mains think i posted so last yr...

thing is this yr has started strange...all the top dogs are having out of sorts races..except mayb CR22 and TC41...these 2 are doing what i thought they would do...

its got to be said RV1 is the fastest guy on track but almost trying 2 hard..and his starts are not helping matters....im not so shore on the fork rumours...i think his starts are puting him in the pack and his over riding trying to get to the front...if he holeshots i think he will win or just starts top3...

RD5 now this for me is the weird 1...always smooth steady consistent and fast at the end....not so this yr....i thought with a yr of racing r&d on that ktm he would be really in this....he looks more out of it than last yr when the bike was new!!

JS7 hmm same old number u colours...whats changed??? nothing

JB51 devo has the speed and starts but its way 2 early 2 say changing of the guard!! his gona crash alot...whan the top dogs are biteing at his heels...then we will see whos whos and what is what....

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yz692 wrote: 8:55pm January 17, 2013

Retardcross--sorry for biting back on your comment,but after reading the papers and watching the news telling of all the lame B.S.laws someone wants just makes me want to puke!!! BUT ANYWAY----Barcia is the future-RV looks fustrated--JS7 is..... -Canard is FOR REAL !!!! --Reed will win again--Millsaps looks great on the RM and I would love to see him take it all !!! Maybe the old KW shows up and spanks the kids this weekend------that would be SO COOL!!!!! Go KW14 !!

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