30 Day Countdown to A1: #6 Chad Reed
Sunday, December 30, 2012 | 12:00 PM
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PrintWelcome to another day of ranking the top 30 supercross racers who ever lived and another argument for you people below in the comments section. Thanks to Monster Energy for sponsoring this thing and I suppose for all the friendships ruined due to the slotting process we went through here at Racer X.
Right from the start the Kurri, Kurri Australia-born Chad Reed didn't want to race 250SX (then called 125) in America. Nope, he had his eye on the premier class despite not showing any real supercross speed anywhere where American team managers watched. Reed, fresh off the not-exactly-supercross Grand Prix circuit was, and still is, confident that he could run with the big boys inside but we all didn’t believe him.
If running top five in the 450SX (then 250SX) class when the supercross series started on the west coast didn’t make a few people change their minds then the fact he went six for seven in the east coast 250SX series and walked away with the title about sealed it. Reed was for real and his supercross skills were on point.
Reed has won two supercross titles during his career.
Simon Cudby photo
The next year he was a full factory Yamaha rider and won the season opener. Boom. He was here and he hasn’t stopped winning since. Reed’s two supercross titles, 42 main event wins and, are you ready for this, EIGHTY percent podium average indicate that indeed, Reed’s the best ever foreigner to race supercross and one of the very best of all-time.
Reed won eight races that rookie year but lost a close title bout to Ricky Carmichael. But the next year, the championship was his. It should be noted that Carmichael missed that 2004 season with a knee injury. In 2005 Reed was again second, and in 2006 Reed lost another title by mere points to, yup, RC. In 2008 he captured his second supercross title and in that season managed to win five races. 2009 saw him again finish second by only a few points. All told, Reed’s finished second in the series three times by thirteen points combined which makes for an average loss of four points. He’s that close to being a five-time supercross champion.
But yes, if ifs and buts were candies and nuts we’d all have a lot more candy and nuts, right? The point is, Reed’s been either a champion or right in the mix for a title every single year he’s raced save for 2010 when he was hurt or last season when he wrecked his knee. But he was still in contention for the championship with five podiums in the seasons first six races.
With an aggressive style and yet a ton of precision, Reed’s got a great head on his shoulders to go along with the skills. If the wins not there, he takes what he can get and regroups for that next race. It’s impossible to get into his head and at this point in his career, with a couple more years left -- maybe three -- Reed’s at a comfortable place in his career.
He’s also fourth all-time in supercross wins, first in career podium percentage and for us, the sixth best supercross racer of all-time.
Reed sits fourth in all-time career supercross wins.
Simon Cudby photo
The 30 Best Supercross Racers of All Time Tracker:
#8 Jeff Stanton
#9 Jeff Ward
#10 Jean Michel Bayle
#11 Damon Bradshaw
#12 Mark Barnett
#13 Kevin Windham
#14 David Bailey
#15 Ryan Dungey
#16 Mike Bell
#17 Jeff Emig
#18 Johnny O’Mara
#19 Doug Henry
#20 Jimmy Ellis
#21 Mike LaRocco
#22 Ezra Lusk
#23 Broc Glover
#24 Ron Lechien
#25 Jimmy Weinert
#26 David Vuillemin
#27 Donnie Hansen
#28 Larry Ward
#29 Mike Kiedrowski
#30 Marty Tripes
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Hate to ruin it, but McGrath will be #1.
Top 5 should be
McGrath
RC
RJ
JS
BH
Sorry, here's where I disagree with the rankings (#19 notwithstanding). You said it yourself, 13 points from being a 5 time champ, started his own team and remained competitive, which I know MC did too, but not in the independent way Reedy has, and the dude has been counted out by everyone on a yearly basis for the last few years, and continues to prove the naysayers wrong. Hate this post all you want, but please tell me why he shouldn't be higher.
i always counted reed out,, but hes a great rider
Reed 6th ??? Someone is eating to many dounuts a
@jimmyc261--I agree but I would switch Stewie and Hannah--Hannah has more titles is the reason I would switch it.. But I feel they are actually pretty equal.. When the tracks started to get technical Hannah struggled more.. But Stewie has 2 titles in 8 seasons, not a really high percentage compared to the guys higher on the list..So Hannah gets the nod by a slight margin..
USMCMer the only reason he isn't higher up in the rankings is because is career is still in tact. In 5 or six years when he's done he will be higher up in the ranking as will RV. As RC has said many times you can never count him out. And every one on site who has never raced agianst Chad Reed really doesn't have a valid opinion myself included. Someone else post about constants Chad Reed is a constant.
@USMCmxer--You dont think Reed should be were Mcgrath is do you?? Mcgrath has 7 titles dude.. Reed has 2....While Reed was and still is a great rider, he is not near Mcgrath, who didnt lose his title until he was 29 years old.. And lost it to none other than Carmichael, who retired at 27.
bd200 I don't think anyone would put him #1 but top 4 at some point.
I think a very interesting discussion is what this looks like at the end of this year. Lets assume either RV, JS, CR or RD will win the championship this year. My opinion: If either RV, JS or CR, they hop to #3. If RD, he hops up to...? In front of RV, JS and CR?
@bd200, definitely don't think he is better than MC, nobody is/was! Just made the team ownership comparo, and used Mc's team, which was owned by Dave Damron first, managed by LB, then kind of morphed into Mc's team with the Bud Light support, I believe? I was just alluding to the fact that Reed started a team, and stayed competitive, in an era where that is not the norm. He deserves some kudos for that, is all I was getting at.
What was failed to be mentioned was that not only did RC miss the 2004 supercross season due to a knee problem but also Stewart had to prematurely back out of the 2008 supercross season due to a knee problem. JS won the 2008 Phoenix supercross with a bad knee over Reed. He let the knee heal just like Carmichael did for 2004. And guess what? Both of them came back for the outdoors those years and had perfect seasons!
Top 15 all time largest wind bag Douche, bags of 2012 !!!!!!!!!!
1 a Chad Reed
1.b rickamatuzio
2. MxBob
3. Scub-This
4. Welker
5. Buckey 394
6 .Mr-Mx
7. MotoXscript
8.Preston
9. CR500AF
10. Bd 25
11. Fred
12. SpottedMarley
13. KilloMoto
14. texag
15. Jesus
16. bd200
17. biker143
18. endoman38
19.CZ MARK
20. USMCMXer
Awwww DickyDick I want to be on your list too! And how did your little dick get so dirty anyways? Maybe we'll put you in as the fourth segment, with your lips sewed to Osama Bin Ladens butthole, you wont have so much to say anymore.
Without a doubt Reed has faced the Sultans of SX in their prime..........something I dont think MC or RC can say
JimM
Pala374
@Dick; You keep forgetting someone. Must you be so obtuse?
I learned that from the, Shawshank Redemption. Ha, Ha, Ha!
PS Congrats to Reed for making well deserved place on the list of All Timers.
He is one of the great warriors in my book!
Reed never won a championship with RC or Bubba healthy he won't
Be in the hunt for this year either.
He stared his own team because no one wanted to pay him cuz he's a
Double deushe.
i agree with joel never beat the best to win a title never beat js7 on a 125 bubba was the best hands down on a 125 watch those races he was awsome
@joel347...
Let's all take a minute to review you statement.
Reed has been a threat to win the title ever since he came to the states, but like you said he never won a title against RC or Bubba, which is true. Loosing to them by mear points in all those years. Now if you want to discredit his titles in 2004,and 2008, well then you might as well throw Mr. JS7 in the bunch for not winning titles against "elite company".
With that said, JS won in 2007 and 2009, but he only beat a horrible rider by the name of Chad Reed. So we can all now say that James Stewart never won a title against great competition, unless you beleive Timmy Ferry was "elite". Sorry Stevo!
Anyone that discredits a rider because he minamized the damage is a complete idiot. Reed and Stewart are two of the best SX riders ever. It is great to see numerous people count Reed out this year, I personly wish there were more becasue it only motivates the 6th best supercross rider of all time .
Oh and it is spelled "Double Douche"...sport!
@porcupinetree...
Still agree with Joel? Or are you bright enough to see the big picture, keep grasping on to those 125 days.
Exactly where I would place Reed on this list. Sure he has more wins than both Hannah and RJ but both of them where unquestionably the best for a 3 to 4 year period. You can't say that about Reed.
The meds must have ran out early this month for some of you. Or mommy and daddy are gone this weekend.
2011-2012, nobody was counting Reed for the title but he was on it even last year he was on RV until that crash in dallas, he even held the red plate once which james didn't, so i'm not counting him out for this one
stupid Americans!! If he was born in the USA he'd be number 3 or 4, most career podiums, 4th all time wins, wankers!!!!!
br411 this was supercross im just saying js was awesome on a125. js beat cr in supercross
Oh by the way, have you seen the supercross DVD "Four Legends"? Didn't have Bob Hannah or Rick Johnson on it. Wankers
He was great on the 125, but to agree with Joel is implying Reed is a slouch...
To determine who is better all time. CR or JS. Would of been tough.
Both equal championships
Both almost equal wins
James on any given day is the fastest man in the world.
Chad has been more consistent and been in the hunt for more championships. (you know what I mean).
I believe the tie breaker is James having 1 or 2 more wins. However you cant argue, although complete oposites. These two are almost equal in supercross history.
Here is the big question. 2010 both riders should wipe that year. 2011 Reed was runner up by 4 points. JS7 was 4th losing by 37 points and by all acounts ate shit the most we have ever seen. 2012 Reed was looking to be competitive again, with JS7 having an off year.
If the next/last 3 years of their careers are similar, who will be the greater all time supercross rider?
Went from not liking the guy to a big fan the last couple years and when he got back on the bike after the sub-orbital I won't count him out ever again....Admire him doing it on his own and always enjoy his battles with Havoc7. @hey peachwanker ....crikie mate go suck a wallaby sack....Reed has probably spent more time in the states than OZ...and Bob Hannah and Rick Johnson HE AIN'T......
Thanks for including me in the debate guys ok Reed is a good rider
But I still think he's lame and there is a reason he doesn't have a factory contract do you think it's his riding
Or personality? Or something else?
You do realize he does have a factory contract with factory Honda under his own team! Get a clue.
@ caseypons YOU JUST MADE IT IN AT 21 A....Okay barley breath !
Sucks to see Reed coming in behind Bubba. Bubba may have him handled on pure speed but has had nowhere near the career of CR so the answer to my question before is popularity over longevity. Not the way I would go but alas this is not my list.
P.S. I have been watching old supercross races on Youtube lately and while the speed these days is insane those last few years of 250 2 strokes where so much more fun to watch. Thanks to those who have posted the videos and the AMA for not having them pulled down.
P.P.S. Thanks RacerX for this great list. It's been my favorite series of articles in a long time.
The more I read and think of a lot of these great points- I am leaning toward giving CR the edge just barley over JS because of consistancy and an overall better finishing stats than JS. if JS had finished ahead of reed the last two years I would call him better. the down side for cr is he took ten years to do what JS has done in 8 years. They are so close its hard to give either the nod
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The guys at Racerx have a severe man crush...I mean, boy crush on little James Stewart. Always have, always will. I guarantee RV and CR are insulted to be farther down on the list than him. RV, CR..I apologize.
IMO, If Dungey is 15th, Villopoto should not be 7th.....or vice versa.
If Reed sees this he will definitely be burned on being listed behind Stewart. Sounds about right to me. You have to be in it to win the championships but still the only reason he won was because RC was out in 2004 and JS in 2008. Same with his only outdoor title where Villopoto and Alessi dropped out. Both years in SX Windham was a lot closers to him in point than he probably should have been.
Can't argue with 42 wins though and all those podiums. I think Stewart has 43 or 44 wins in SX and a winning percentage close to 50%. Both have 2 championships.
80% podium adverage? 2 titles?? 42 wins??? Starts his own privateer team and still is competitive?? And he comes in at 6?? You cant be serious!! Reed is surely top 3.
As with any list, whether it be RacerX's or DirtyDickClarks, there are many variables that can effect the outcome. From length of season, strength of competition, to motorcycles ridden, to long or short career. Trying to place riders, who never raced each other and from different decades, in an order, is to say the least, very subjective and can only be derived from opinion. Making a definitive list then becomes impossible. Every fan will have a differing idea, as to how or why a rider should be ranked. In the RacerX's list, the only thing for certain is MC should be ranked #1, due to his unparalleled career, most wins, most titles, longest win streak and so on. Who ever came up with the idea for this list was genius. For the RX staff, it created an collaborative, fun, easy, non-time consuming filler for the long off season and it gave us all something to think about and bench race about, as we passed the time awaiting the start of the much anticipated 2013 supercross season. So really, regardless of whether we agree or disagree with where a rider was ranked, the objective of the list was reached and this time next week we will all be posting on the outcome of A1...
Now for DDC's list....As with RX's list, we do not know on what criteria the list was based upon. Was it amount of posts, length of posts, content of posts or some thing else that seemed to annoy DDC. I am flattered to have made the top 10 and to be in such good company, as there are so many quality posters on this site! Hopefully with ramblings, such as this post, I will move up a few spots in the next list and make the top 5 for 2013!!
I hope Magoo is somewhere in the Top 5
JimboMX374: Really?? I thought RC raced against MC, CR and JS all while they were winning races. MC was still flying when the GOAT knocked him off his throne and he knew it was time to get out. CR never won a championship against him-never. And JS had 3 chances in his prime but couldn't get it done at a time when Ricky was distracted with 4 wheel dreams. Don't tell me RC wouldn't have won many more races and more championships had he raced until he was 29 or 30. Had the GOAT started as many races and raced as many seasons as MC, everyone would know what some of us already do: Ricky Carmichael is the baddest dude to ever throw a leg over a motorcycle!
@BD25, lmao! Your take on DirtyDick's list puts this whole thing in perfect perspective. And Matthes, I love your poke at us posters.
As I said before, some of these posters act as though this list is taking something from their pockets!
HA! "DirtyDick Clark" is the greatest name, ever!
Alot of crybabies on here.. Especially Peachy--because he is Australian of course--and no bias there.. What a tool.. A guy with only two titles should NEVER be over a guy with 3 or more.. So in my opinion Stewart should be next on the list.. Because he only has two titles, and the only TOP guy he beat was Reed.. That is the Stewtards arguement as to why Reeds titles arent as big.. But Stewart never knocked off RC for his title.. At least RC took down Mcgrath.. And also won his titles against Reed and Stewart..
@Peaches--or whatever your name is.. Your first move is to insult an entire nation?? Really?? It shows you are an idiot and a tool.. Reed being a Non-American has nothing to do with anything.. He has a ton of fans here, and is well respected by most real moto fans.. So grow up and go away..
@HJ Banks, you said they failed to mention 2004 rc had his knee surgery, and in 2008 Stewart has his knee fixed... Why would they mention those two when the article is about Reed???
LOL, knew this was coming. Being an Aussie I am super proud of everything CR has done & if he can beat JS7 straight up this year maybe he could be 5th? I mean up until last year JS7 was in his head & I think 6th is right. I might give him 5th because he had to do all this away from home. Super proud of Reedy & like all the other current riders, his position is still pending. Great countdown, loving it!
@ filthyanimal
With my name your prowess both our SX-MX skills we could be on the podium @ A-1 of coarse we would have BD-25 do the build up to and follow up after the race to promote us for the rest of the west coast swing !
I don't know how he was 6th on this list ..total EMO pick list for sure ...mostly accurate but Emig 16th and reed 6 th was robbery ...these 2 parallel careers too ..both had to ride with a dominant era rider next to him his whole career ..yet reed has 2 titles and has been in the fight for much more ....2006 and 2011 he was in it to the last lap of the season...and he could get one more and reach 50 wins ...Hannah and RJ dominated a era but are far off the win total and Reed should be 4th or tied for 3rd with stewart....IMO
RJ deserves to be ahead of JS and CR based on the competition he faced winning those 2 titles. I thought 2013 was stacked beyond compare, but check out the top 10 in the mid 80's. Go do some research in The Vault and look at the names from '85 to '88. In my mind the only way they can jump ahead of RJ is to get a third title this season.
reedy should be top 4 without a doubt. same amount of titles in 450sx as js7 , more 2nds and more 3rds........80% podiums in 12 years of sx......someones passing the pipe around while the voting here..........
Chad Reed is awesome.. He used to be a 1 dimensional rider, but managed to rise to the occasional and round out his career. I thought he was finished twice, but he found speed and crawled back to the front.. He deserves anything inside the top 10.
The only ridiculous comment I have seen was that McGrath never faced tough competition until 2000. The competition was better in the 80s and 90s.. Deeper fields with previous champions, closer competition, and better tracks..
How can bob Hannah be considered better than anyone of these Guys at supercross? Outdoors he was a rockstar.. But sx?? People put him on a pedestal for some reason.. I don't see it at all. So who all was fast In 76?
@rickama....fast in 76..........anyone with fork or rear shock dampening and anyone that could ride without it.......DirtyDC just another name for a turd thats already been crapped.......
@ tonewall Eat a burrito and die !
Steve Twinkie Matthes hates Twinkies. It looks like Hostess closing It's doors didn't affect his appetite. We can now all rest knowing his decision was not based on a dingdong overload! He is sensitive on his Twitter account.
Never thought I would agree with @tonewall but he is on point.
@dirtydc...you sure put your big boy pants on for that last post!
Heres how I see it,
JS. Should do well if he stays upright,Fast because he is mildly reckless.Will do well if he eases into it,if he goes all out straight away, he will crash big time.Needs to use his head.Not sure about bike setup and team/rider dynamics.
RD. Will be as consistent as ever and will fight tooth and nail for the title.Well sorted bike and team has big bonus points throughout the season.Will be super fast straight up.
RV. Big lay off riding due knee injury,will have to be careful in first few races
,will not be as fast as where he left off straight away,Tried to match previous pace in MEC but crashed uncharacteristically.
CR. Extra long lay off due knee injury etc,Will take a few races to get wound up and race fit,once he does reach his peak he should be the most consistent rider out there.CR is my odds on favourite because he uses his head and does not get caught up in the moment,He is an all round pro, not just a punk who holds it on and doesn't think of the consequences. Hopefully some of the others guys don't get too far ahead in the points early on?
Should be one of the best years of all time,bring it on............
@DirtyDickLicClark WTF 11th.Thats all you gave me.Shit you didn't even put Tonewall in the top 20
@ricka
I usually agree with you but the mid to late 90s were pretty thin. JMB was gone. Bradshaw wasn't his old self. Stanton was on his way out. Don't trust your memory. Look it up in The Vault like I had to (I'm just old enough not to remember much). In his first championship in 93 he beat Mike K, Stanton, and Bradshaw, but look at 94-99. MC faced solid riders but not many past or future champions. Nothing like the 80s, early 90s, or 2013.
Instead of critiquing RacerX, perhaps one (or more) of you could enthrall us with your acumen and predict the final five?
I think reed should have been higher. Obviously mcgrath is gonna win, i see rc 2nd, i would've put reed third. I'm guessing ricky johnson and bob hannah are gonna be in there, but ahead of reed, not so sure about that
RACER X
This is a rivsed list of weiners for 2012
Top 20 all time largest Wind bag, Douche, bags of 2012 !!!!!!!!!!
1 Tonewall Burritto breath
2. Jesus
3. rickamatuzio
4. Welker
5. Buckey 394
6 .Mr-Mx
7. MotoXscript
8.Preston
9. CR500AF
10.Scub-This
11.Mx Bob
12. SpottedMarley
13. KilloMoto
14. texag
15. Fred
16. bd200
17. biker143
18. endoman38
19.CZ MARK
20. Yitzhak_Rabin
Looks like Tonewall is the lil chalupa of the year !
2003 2nd (-7 points)
2004 1st (+34 points)
2005 2nd (-25 points)
2006 3rd (-2 points)
2007 2nd (-51 points)
2008 1st (+13 points)
2009 2nd (-4 points)
2010 17th (-290 points)
2011 2nd (-4 points)
2012 12th (-195 points)
I think Reed should have been higher.
1. McGrath
2. RC
3. Stewart
4. Reed
5. RJ
I will look at old tapes but my memory says: Larry ward, mike Larocco, Greg albertyn, mike kiedrowski, Doug Henry, Jeff Emig, Damon Bradshaw, Damon Huffman, Ezra lusk, Ryan Hughes.. These are all some big names! They all have 125 titles, some made this 30 best list.. That's tough competition, deeper top 12 than today. It didn't look so bad because McGrath made it look easy..
I don't buy that it was low on talent then, I think we are low on talent today outside the top 5. Not digging on the riders, I only say low talent based off RV. Still all great riders
CR 22 has been a regular here in the US all these years. Has had some "UPS" and downs for sure. But he keeps coming back and seems to have made a ton of fans. Between the "Chadapult" at Spring Creek, to having his own team (which IMO he would keep vs. going back to a factory ride) Heck, it is a good set up obviuosly, and doing it half way around the world from his home,is amazing, considering the amount of sucess he has had...Now for the "other" list. When I first saw that I was #5, I was like allright, recognition! But then, when I realized my name was spelled wrong, I didn't feel so "special". Upon further thought, I was like-Wait a minute, I'm on a list that was made by a guy that is a selfproclaimed "Dirty Dick". Not so sure that is a good thing! LOL Oh well, prolly not the first time I have been on someones' list. Or the last. But, like BD 25 said, I am happy to be on a list with a bunch of good guys. Keep it up DDC, you are starting to become entertaining! PS- you are far from the first one to come here and act like this. So don't let yourself feel like you are some sort of an original. If that is what you think, you are wrong. But I will give you props for trying. Now MOVE ME UP THAT LIST! lol
I got moved down and I didn't even say anything
I was sure Tyler Evans would be #6. #5 will be Brian Deegan for sure!
If a SX racer can create on-going /continual debate about how good he is not, then I guess that should be an honor, or an admission of positive recognition. Hardly anbody comments on racers not in the front of the pack. My point is??????????? I don't know what my point is. Anyway, a big shout out to my fellow race fans. Have fun (and be safe) partying tonight for NYE. Next week should give us lots to talk about after A1; especially when Reed gets 3rd place finish.
Ah ha fred, your sliding backwards on DirtyDC brownlips list!
Don't feel so bad Rick, neither did I.
If you count how many times Reed has been 2nd place, you'd have to think that he should be ranked higher overall.
Wow I am really PUMPED I can stil place in the top 5 of something!!! I gotta put this on my Resume' I wanna thank the people that helped Firs and formost is Fred and his Tard pills Wanna thank my eye doc for not getting my inserts to match when he er um fixed my catarcts?? Then I also need to thank my sponsors Bob Hannah and Mikkola , Oh dont wanna forget CZmark and his comments and mmy factory support from MD 20/20 The fine wine with the twist off cap! If I forgot to mention anyone it is because my cue card holder just fell over!
Dont forget Dirty dick for taking all of the time to make the list!
PS: Also to the D.C and all of the Racer X staff for the fine work they have done to keep us psted on the world of racing and all of the stuff that goes with it!! (You may all take a bow now) Much applause... I also want to thank all of the people that post here for making our day or maybe just giving us a laugh!
HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL! AND TO ALL MY YOUR DREAMS COME TRUE!
@dirty, I didn't make the list????
Welker well done! MD20/20 are so proud to have you wearing thier logo.
@ CZmark you are just gonna have to go faster next year! Thanks for the chat doood!
@BD25 You always write a good post and I like em, keep up the good work.
All things considered, Reed is an "all-time" great. Where he lands on anyone's list is debatable.
A point mentioned earlier is important to me (too lazy to look back / re-read posts, sorry).
Hannah lined up against MANY present & future National & SX champs while the same cannot be said for some of the others. Does this make him better than a McGrath who was easily the class of his field?
The strength of a victory is determined by the competition. That is my point. Does this help the decision making process or not make any difference at all?
They're really waiting for the #5 pick today. Whether it's Stewart or not Stewart, people are going to go off.
They got Reed right where he belongs (presently). #6 all time is an honorable position. No way can you make an argument he finishes ahead of the 5 in front of him (again, presently).
@Ricka
Tapes? I have tapes but can't find a VCR.
In the late 90s Lusk (#22 on this list) was second fiddle to MC. Solid rider but only 1 east coast sx title. Nothing else indoors or out. Winning any title is great but I equate those Sx seasons with JS' perfect season outdoors. Ferry was solid but not an elite champion. 2013 will see 3 of the top 10 riders on this list going head to head.
Had to laugh at an MC interview where he said his frieds laught at RC being called The Greatest Of All Time. Dude, what do you think your friends are going to say to your face. Truth is he is the GOAT, not some litle cherry picking SX only dainty.
DirtyDick Clark, you are quite an entertainer!
There is no perfect rating system.No doubt RC and CR faced stiffer competition than MC and DV,Yogi and KW had the misfortune of lining up in the wrong era or would have title(s) and rank higher.But IMO the top 5 are;1.MC 2.RC 3.CR 4.JS 5.(tie)RJ and BH
I didn't even make the 2nd list.
(Sniffle).
And I am as "large of a Wind bag, Douche, bags" as anybody on here. I swear.
Shit @Road to Witchata now you bumped me to 15th.@CZmark I'm not sure how to reply to that.
The only reason I would place Reed in this spot is because he either has less SX titles or less Sx wins. Other than that he is fourth in total Sx wins right behind Stewart and Reed and Stewart are I belive3 wins apart all time. One fact is Reed never grew up racing any of these guys in the Mini O's and Lorettas, came and started winning right off the bat. Also he was not given a ride in the then 250SX for one year instead having to ride for Yamaha of Troy 125 east so he may of racked up 1 years more wins but that last part is only a speculation.
Ricky Carmichael was right when he said "Nobody remembers race wins only championships." You are all too quick to say Chad Reed only won because Ricky Carmichael wasn't there. That's part of the game. But you forget that Chad Reed won more races that Ricky Carmichael in 2003. Was he faster? Race wins say yes. Was he as consistent? No as he didn't win the title. But I remember watching as he completed a race with no seat after it came off mid race. Would he have without bad luck. Indeed. But that's racing. The guy is a champion, and the record books say so too. He deserves to be at least 4th on the list if not 3rd.
dany175 and 8450 are right on the money