Monday Conversation: Tony Cairoli
Monday, October 1, 2012 | 11:40 AM
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PrintYou can't argue that Italy's Tony Cairoli has been the best rider in Europe for the last several years, but his Motocross of Nations results didn't reflect that much at all. Tons of crashes--often in the first turn, beyond his control--had cost Super Tony a chance to show what he could do in the biggest race of the year. But finally this weekend, at Lommel, things went his way, and his 1-1 overall finishes made him the top individual rider of the event. Matthes caught up with the six-time World Champion after the race.
Racer X: 1-1. What a job today. You’ve got to be pumped.
Tony Cairoli: Yeah, I’m really happy. For me personally, I did my best. I knew that only [Jeffrey] Herlings could come close to me on sand tracks like this, but then, with Italy, I was a little bit disappointed with the second race, while I was leading, they told me that the other rider was crashing and that he had dropped to 17 or 18. I just slowed down a little bit because I was losing motivation. Then I noticed Herlings was in the second position and he was coming really fast, so I had to step it up really quickly. I made one big mistake and almost came off the track. He came really close to me, but I knew I could fight with him for the victory. That was my only goal after Italy was out for the overall.
Yeah, team Italy was out. [Alessandro] Lupino hurt himself?
Yeah, he hurt himself on a stupid go-kart race on Friday! Some other rider took him out and he broke his ligament from the thumb. His racing already with that injury, and his bike is not the best on the sand. There is not so much power. So he struggled a lot, but [Davide] Guarneri did a good job on the first race with fifth, so we were still pumping. But I knew Lupino was not in good shape with the thumb.
Cairoli (#46) won both of his motos in impressive fashion at the MXoN at Lommel.
Ray Archer photo
Yeah, Guarneri surprised me. I didn’t know he was this good. I think he rode really good today.
His racing always at the Motocross des Nations is really fast and, also, last year in France he was really impressive. Saturday, he would fight for the lead with [Gautier] Paulin. I would pull in and he finished second or third in the Open Class. He’s good. In the Motocross des Nations, he always steps it up a little bit.
You haven’t had the best luck at Motocross des Nations, mostly crashes, over the years. You’ve got to be pretty pumped that you have finally shown "Hey, I’m just as fast as these guys."
Yeah, for sure. The first time I came to America, Budds Creek, there were a lot of boards making fun of me, "Where was Cairoli" and stuff like this. I never talk bad about America. I think America has the best overall riders. It’s also the biggest country, so if Barcia is injured or Stewart is injured, they can pick another one that is almost just as good. In Italy, with Phillipheart’s injury, we don’t have so much choice. I think it was good. A fifth overall for Italy, it’s okay. I think we could have finished third. Maybe next year, we’ll have more luck.
How does this rank for you? There were the world’s best riders and you worked them. How does this rank?
Yeah, I’m really happy, like I said.
[Laughs] You don’t seem that happy though!
I’m happy! I am really happy! I think it’s history. To win Motocross des Nations, at least overall, it’s something really special that will stay in the book forever. I’m really happy. We showed all the world that we can do it. It’s just a matter of a mix of things and to have a good strong group is also really strong motivation. Maybe a lot of people don’t know, but if you start on Friday and you come to the race and you don’t have the group to win, you’re not so focused and pumped to make it better. Those guys like America or France or Belgium, they have such a big group of good riders that they come in really pumped.
Jeffrey Herlings (left) embraces Cairoli (right) after their battle in third moto.
Ray Archer photo
I’m guessing you did not want Herlings to get by you. I’m assuming that’s a pretty big rivalry. You’ve got to be pretty stoked that you held him off.
Yeah, like I said, I know that he was really fast. I was surprised that he wasn’t there already the first three or four laps. I just did my rhythm, I didn’t really push as much as I can. At the end, my mechanics showed me a little late that he was in second and he was ten seconds from me, so that was a mistake a little bit for them. I tried to step it up and I made a mistake and he was pretty close, so he was coming really close. But I could fight back.
Were you pretty confident when you were coming in that you could do this? You said earlier that it was going to be either you or Herlings. Obviously, you respect Ryan Dungey, but you thought you could win.
Yeah, for sure I thought I could win. But it’s also not my country. I learned sand riding. Where I came from, in Italy, it’s hard pack. It’s not like I'm Belgian or Dutch that I learn on the sand growing up. It’s good. I think the USA did good, but I think they should [have been] better. Justin Barcia surprised me. I think if he calmed down a little bit, he’d have the speed. I saw him in a few corners and a few pieces of the track where it was really rough and he was really impressive. The other two guys struggled a little bit too much. I didn’t expect it to be so much like this.
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I know we lost but what can you say ? Hes got my respect for sure, that guy is very fast in the sand.
im glad barcia is getting the respect from the right people a lot of people are talking shit about him and its ridiculous and FRO with his b.s comentating last night barcia had nothing to do with dungey crashing they both hit kickers at almost the same time i had friends texting me saying barcia took dungey out! just plain stupid barcia was our strongest rider yesterday he would have went 3-3 if his front wheel had not locked up and here we have it even cairolli was impressed and we are all impressed by you as well mr. cairolli same goes for herlings as well
There you have it guys Barcia was the best rider we had for sand so cant be too bummed for not choosing Alessi. It really sucks coming in knowing that your team isnt really the strongest so good job on Cairolli for staying focused.
Congrats to Tony! Good to see him get some redemption. He seems like a good dude. Now will you come over here and race a full season with us?
Why didn't you ask him why he never trys to come over and race a couple of nationals here in the US ?
hell if they were gonna throw out tradition anyways they should have just took barcia,tomac,bagget lol dungey may be okay in the sand but he's got a long way to go on his bike setup when he hit a kicker his ass end was swapping like 2ft left or right something was way off , maybe they know something about the 350 that we dont in the sand anyways
now that our guys have seen that beast they should have boot camp over there in the off season , theres definately an art to that and if you can master that than there shouldnt be anything you cant ride
-Fred- steve has aked tony this question before - look it up on the BTO sports racer x podcast archive - he interviewed him there.
I am as American as you but it seems as if people just don't get it. The world is growing and we are not center stage anymore. Where riders once fawned over coming here there is just not that big a draw anymore...
Spend some time in Europe (especially Switzerland) and you'll have a renaisance of sorts...I used to bag on Euros that didn't want to come here to compete but my view has changed...and as evidenced by Cairoli, Herlings and Roczens dominant rides - maybe some of our guys should consider going over there for a while?
This focus on SX that we are seeing here at home is weakening the core of our sport (MX) how is a rider supposed to get strong for MX when they sit out months healing from SX injuries?
And why is the trend in our MX series moving towards running the 450 motos' first? When the track is not as rough - brilliant idea that one...
I have a new respect for AC....Seems like a nice humble guy...I'm glad he finally got rid of the MXdN Curse...
@jeramey
Let's just swap the champions each year! that'd be fun! :-D
Awesome rider, he came from a small city of the farthest Italian region with no money,nothing, just pure talent that exploded when he was finally signed by a good team, having Jeremy McGrath as personal idol.
I totally respect how hard our guys tried in the litterbox ....but I wonder how RV Havoc and tomac might have fared..would have also been a nice team..maybe another day......like him or not Havoc can flat lay it down it the sand.......It was a good lesson and I do hope the Euros come over to show us how its done on a 'normal' track (i'm not of fan of what are tracks are becoming by the way..the rutted one lined cookie cutter type anyway) ...as for Cairoli...i like the guy ,and he has been around the block and i'm sure his overall skills are proven and for real...Hearlings .looks fast but..would have to see him in action on dirt to tell......guess we'll see down the road....maybe a sand section should be mandatory from here on....maybe there should be more to it than just jumps and ruts....
Cairoli is a good dude! Always admire his riding style. As for not racing here in US, ktm was never supportive of that idea. They didn't want to risk GP title. Would love to see him here for a few rounds though
Hopefully after this race the Americans can start treating each other with respect I cannot believe the amount of hating that goes on between the riders themselves not to mention some of their so called fans(at a barbeque held for the riders the American journalists could'nt believe the top Euros where playing a game soccer against each other in the garden) -also PLEASE make them stop with the retarded sponsor marketing on the podiums!
Congratulations Germany and the other Euros you where simply awsome!
@tonewall
agreed.... Rv, havoc and tomac ride the back of their bikes a lot, also standing a lot... that's the way to ride deep sand. Barcia s style worked good opposed to blake and ryan. They tend to stay neutral on the bike. None the less, great job by our boys! You gave it all and that's what counts! Thank you
jeramey, it wasn't just Fro who thought that Barcia's pass-swap-veer towards Dungey-save move triggered Dungey's crash. Watch it in HD and slow-mo it. On the live the Euro commentators thought so, and watching it so did I. Dungey had to close the throttle in deep sand and try to move right, tucked the front and the rear came around. Dungey won't say it, but Barcia effed him up.
And Barcia wasn't unfortuantate to have the wheel come apart. He made a total spaz move behind De Dyker and ruined his front wheel. A sportsman would be glad that the Belgian's bike wasn't also damaged.
Keep Barcia out of De Dykers rear wheel and clear of Dungey and maybe we win this thing. The wheel thing cost him 5 spots, and the Dungey deal took Dungey from what, 3rd to 11th at the time?
Before we are "dissapointed" in Dungey, let's look at Barcia's help getting him there.
Not trying to be nice or mean to eigther of them, just accurate. For those who saw Barcia in the Sat qualifying race, this or something just like this was your worst fear.
For the Monster RC has added a seperate sand lane next to the track that each rider must ride through at least once during the race to try and teach the US riders to race in the sand its supposed to add 5 seconds to the lap time more than likely 20 seconds - hopefully he doesnt add a jump otherwise most of the riders would DNF ..........and he's called it the "joker lane"
It appears that TC will be challenged by JH. Watch out TC!
As far as the results, a person who actually knows something about MX was aware of what would happen. AKA, not that complicated ....
Where are the Euro fans? It is possible that Team USA is going to be after some payback next year.
sounds biased to me dungey was 5-6 place guy on the track barcia was 3rd dungey's pace would have got them both passed so think what you want even cairolli said barcia was fast the other two were not so fast
and the problem with stewart is once he crashes his race is over he tucks tail and walks off you will never see stewart fight to get his bike out from under a fence and than do a seat bounce super man back over it just to get back in the race and nevermind the fact that it was just qualifying barcia is a real racer he lays it all on the line and gets so much hate for it its ridiculous
I am curious though If Herlings and Cairoli can go that fast in deep sand like that, then hard pack tracks would be like freeway driving for them. I don't think those two would have any issues over here.
Ryan Dungey was in 2010 the AMA 450 SX & AMA 450 MX Champion
Tony Cairoli Interview on MXLarge, the biggest MX site in Europe
Wednesday 08th September 2010
By Geoff Meyer
Tony Cairoli manipulated by Geoff Meyer
Geoff Meyer: "Ryan Dungey is really riding well in America, but can you understand that the American press keep saying he is the best in the World?"
Cairoli: "That is what they say, but how can they say those things. I think he is one of the fastest guys, but for sure I don’t think he is THE fastest, in MX2 there are a lot of guys better than him I think. I don’t think the Motocross class in America is at a good level. Before they talk (about who is best in the World) they need to compare and you can’t know from not racing each other."
few weeks later Ryan Dungey dominated the MXoN (1-1)
Cairoli today: "The first time I came to America, Budds Creek, there were a lot of boards making fun of me, "Where was Cairoli" and stuff like this. I never talk bad about America"
They make fun of you because of your interview before Budds Creek
So, Cairoli don't be like your fans, an idiot, a liar, and a hypocrit
@dinosaurmedia and @ElsinoreRacer - those comments were spot on. I cannot add one thing, other than a class interview by Cairoli. From a business perspective, there is no incentive for KTM to bring Cairoli to the US to compete against Dungey. Heck, even I am feeling the urge to switch from a lifetime of red to orange.
Carioli would beat Dungey straightup on any track right now! Dungeys riding has suffered this season with all the supercross injuries to his competitors you can actually see by his lap times compared to the 250 class - i mean come on! his only competitor was Alessi................. give me break!
well im not gonna argue with dungey fan boys but I will tell you this get used to seeing him behind barcia, its gonna happen a lot
@VooDoo
Bring it on for 2013 - Germany and his fans will be ready! :-D
But until then we are reigning champions for a just that year!
I'll be at Teutschenthal 2013 (it's only 150mls away) - any US visitors highly welcomed! We germans gladly school you on german beer drinking in the fans area too - hahahaha
Ill come for october fest or "beer fest" haha
Hardly a Dungey fanboy. I think he is consistent and very fortunate re other riders and their injuries. jeramey, diff between us is that I watched race without Barcia-goggles. He effed up and effed up Dungey. Me; I'm into reality.
@Not American but GO USA/Rene/Whoeveryouare
Erm, you know that the Budds Creek MXdN was held in 2007 and the interview you quoted from was 2010 right? You do make yourself look pretty damn stupid at times. In fact, you make yourself look pretty damn stupid... ALL of the time.
Do us all a favour and crawl back in your rat hole.
Switching the AMA races to one day on Saturday was a mistake IMO. And riders doing SX only like Windham and Bubba.. the heart of the sport is outdoors. Anyway, as far as sand riders too bad Dowdy wasn't a little bit younger! I bet he would have had some good lines out there.
I always defended Cairoli on this board whenever I had the chance and always thought he was a great rider and very humble. I'm glad he went 1-1 to show his true talents.
@ElsinoreRacer,, If Barcia screwed up Dungey, then maybe Dungey should have not been following him?
they were in two completely different lines people are just making excuses for dungey he was the veteran on the team if he gets scared by somebody coming past him he may want to seek different employment you dindt see barcia freak out and go over the bars when bagget made the craziest sketchiest pass in history in the sand whoops this year did you?
AND I QUOTE- " they told me that the other rider was crashing and that he had dropped to 17 or 18. I just slowed down a little bit because I was losing motivation."
Boy that was WEAK!
This is typical non-American attitude, and the reason they cannot come over here and win Championships. They have to hold the MXoN in a craptastic sand pit that normal people try to avoid, just to have a false sense of greatness.
dinosaurmedia,
I AGREE, AND WANT TO ADD THOSE STUPID SX ONLY CONTRACTS, are stakes in the heart of American MX!
The 450's running first is the LAMEST move the AMA could have done to hurt the sport of MX.
I still don't understand why the purse money for the Nationals are still so small. There not much bigger than back in the 80's and its 2012!
I say they come together and do away with SX and run the GP circuit in place and our guys go over there race there circuit than in the summer they come race the u.s circuit give motocross its own channel so everybody can watch it live who cant be there . SX is cool but nothing compares to the outdoors
@starplaya4life,, I couldnt agree more, and if memory serves me right, Jeremy McGrath was one who started the "SX only" contract.
The American MX scene is dominated by jumps, rythem sections and man-made tracks. Euro MX is more like the sport was when it started. As we continue to make MX more and more "video game like" we drift away from the heart of the sport which is tracks like Lommel. The Euros will kick our butts every time if the MXDN is at Lommel. Why don't we have some beach sand tracks here in the states? I used to ride some back in the day. They were called sand pits, in old strip mines. Stay on the throttle, away from the front brake and keep your weight back. I'm sure Roger was telling them that but they just needed more practice.
Cairoli and Herlings deserve credit. Both looked amazing and in control. I wish I could say the same for Team USA. It just didn't come together this year but I'm still proud of their efforts in not giving up.
My opinion is Barcia did not contribute to Dungey's fall other than possibly serving as a distraction. I saw no contact.
It sure was nice to be able to see it last night on TV. Better luck next year! Go Team USA!
When the GP was at Glenn Helen Mike Alessi went out there and raced against them when all the other top guys stayed home. That's why I want to see him on a Team USA.
The Saturday races and 450's racing first was catering to the era of "superstars" like Bubba, Reed & Carmichael.
I think the sport has evolved (again) and the "superstar" egos, contracts and behavior won't be accepted in the new economy of motocross.
It's a shame we changed everything around (format-wise) to suit this and now, when the economy dictated that their gravy-train is over, we're still stuck with the fallout of their regime.
Even though I have come to like the Saturday races and DVR'ing has largely made it a moot point, going back to Sunday races would open a lot of doors TV-wise and isn't that the promised-land where the promoters were trying to take us (themselves) anyways?
The article is about A.C. and I wanted to express my congratulations to him.
Great performance A.C.!
RESPECT.
Now, let's take a look inside that "350"......................
Just My Two Cents
There are problems with our motocross program as many of you have pointed out. Over the years, we have made some good changes and gone in the wrong direction with others. Here are just a couple of ideas of how to remedy the situation we find our selves in ..
The Outdoor tracks have suffered from to much of the supercross influence. Some one thought, we needed more jumps and rhythm sections, so that our sport looks better on TV. So instead of natural terrain, that chops up and gets rough, we now have 150' jumps and whoop sections and in between motos we manicure the track so that it stays pretty. Motocross should go back to its roots, let the track form, get rough and nasty, that will separate the good from the best and be safer than the what it is now.
Next, go back to the 450's being the last of the two moto's, if that is going to be our premier class, then they should compete on the roughest track. I heard it to was changed to enhance TV viewership, that is just back asswards, it seems to me, you would want to save the best for last to hold the audience, keep them wanting to see the big names of the sport..
Increase the number of nationals to 14 rather than 12. In doing so, find a couple sand tracks in Florida, Alabama or Georgia to help us with our sand skills. We should not have been at such a disadvantage when showing up at Lommel, we have sand here. Also, bring back Glen Helen, it gets rough, has huge elevation changes, name recognition and tradition. All the things that our Nationals should have to continue making our Great Outdoors better....
@ starplaya4life, even if the pie is bigger, that doesn't mean I will cut you a bigger slice. I hope that puts it into perspective for you.
As long as the "managment" is in charge, you will get what they see fit. No changes will be made that are not dictated upon them.
Individual racers' agents do not have the ability to negotiate for the racers as a whole and they wouldn't want to anyways, that would take from their "slice".
A riders union has been talked about for years and the powers-that-be do not want it to happen on their watch. That ought to tell you something right there.
There are a lot of ins & outs to this deal (to quote the big Lebowski) BUT, one of the lynchpins is the TALENT themselves. They control a significant portion of the end result, they are just too young, busy with their racecraft, self-indulged, financially unable or otherwise disenchanted to participate in such an endeavor.
Would you still go to A1 if the "fast five" or the top ten in (the previous years') points didn't show up and they said why? Problem is, the "fast five" don't care about Ricky Renner (to pull a name out of a hat) because they already had their agent secure a lucrative deal (and thus motivation) for themselves.
There is the tip to that Iceberg.
@ BD25, good stuff, as usual.
WTG Tony you not only race fantastic but you know your competitors well by acknowledging Bam an his prowess. Barcia did not cause Dungey to crash he was out there trail riding looking pathetic, if Bam had stayed behind him they both would have finished 8th and 9th. Dungey better wake up to the fact next year he gets his butt kicked big time by more then one rider, his lucky days are over.
Great Job AC!!!!! A well earned title and a long time coming, your bad luck at the MXdN has finally run its course.
The only guys who would have been able to keep up(I'm not saying beat) with AC are desert racers. those are the guys used to every turn being different and riding were only quads and stuff with 4wheels go.
There are tons of places to ride the sand in the US, especially Utah and West. Its just that these aren't your groomed MX tracks and are out of the way spots where they get little traffic. These places are awesome, only a few respectufl riders and all the room you need.
I love how so many top pros hate Southwick. Sometimes I like watching NESC races better than Nationals. A good A or B class going at it hard is just as good to me. It's cost less and I can get right up close to the action.
pizzacorner,
First off considering AC is Italian and ESL-or 3rd language who knows. Not everything he says or thinks is going to translate in english exactly how he means it.
2nd, Why would he push harder? he was Leading the race, riding his race and had a huge gap, what would hammering it have gotten him, a crash? Move up to 1st...oh wait he already was in 1st with nobody close to him.
When herlings finally caught up, he dropped the hammer and went off to the Victory.
Just go back with the rest to fthe guys whining because our guys caught beat this year.
Because if it wasn't for AC's stranglehold on the GP circuit KTM would have never committed so much money into building a US program. They have all these talented guys signed and need to put them somewhere.
I've heard enough of people saying Cairoli and Herlings are fast in the sand......How about just saying they are fast!.....and leave it at that!
@ Elsinoreracer, I am there with you bud. I like Dungey and Barcia. In Barcias first race I actually yelled out loud " Idiot " when he went down. He had to know taking the inside on that corner was going to cause contact. The guys are turning left in a mine field not a rutted groove to follow. When you watch it again you could predict the rider in front slowing down and the rider in the back diving to the inside and coming faster, making contact.
As I said, I like Barcia and was bummed because I thought had he been more patient, he could have gotten around and avoided contact. The same exact scenario with Dungey, We were running 2nd and 3rd. A little more patience on the pass by Barcia and we would have still been running 2nd and 3rd. Herlings was going by no matter what but we may have taken 3rd and 4th. Dungey made a panic evasive nove when Barcia swapped and it put him off the track.
Just look at Barcia's eyes in the picture when he is shaking Dungey's hand, those eyes say sorry dude, I f'd up.
RED54M, Well said
@dinosaur I agree but USA is still the best place to be. I have traveled alot and I can tell you our country offers alot. Not being ignorant on other places but the main difference is there are just more resources here. Even the sand track at lommel we have worse here. Just go to Indiana dunes.
Okay now I am totally bummed. Before I say this let me again say congrats to AC, Herlings and Roczen, all rode amazing.
For those of us who have talked about the Barcia contact and mad swap in front of Dungey. Do the math on the team totals if Dungey finishes 4th instead of 9th and if Barcia finishes 4th or 5th instead of 14th in the BROKEN WHEEL RACE.
Thats right, USA ties or wins? Could Barcia have been our fastest guy there but his wild side (which I love) cost us the top spot???
Something to think about
@euro%uckhead10
I'm into my bungalow near a wonderfull beach, white sand, nice view on the lagoon, the sun is shining, the sea is calm, slight wind! and you where you are %uckhead? into a little stinky appartment in a %ucking place in europe? or still into the crappy sand for rats of lommel?
AND NOW I open my second FRESH BEER ... !
Excelent! Perfect! Wonderful!
oh yeah and I make a error about the location of the 2010 MXoN, I admit, but it's a detail, the fact are the same ... Cheers %uckhead!
Posters please- 1 race we don't win in years and we have all these major problems? Give me a break and wait till next year girls
Did Adam Cianciarulo race MXON? Why is everyone congratulating AC?
@mustarddog some have a point about how our guys may be a little spoiled with the track conditions here we thought some of our tracks get ruff our guys all struggled this year at unidilla because of the track conditions and those guys thrive in the ruff stuff me personnaly the only ruts i want are in corners haha guess im just a fat lazy american lmao
@ Jeramey, I guess u didn't watch Stewart at Daytona when he had a nasty endo while leading, came from last to inside the top 10 i beleive in the mud, get ur facts straight before you bash somebody!
you need to get your facts staight the mud was this year not the year he cartwheeled over the step over he didnt crash at all this year but he did walk off the track like a child leave his bike on the track and walked out on his contract all in the same night in houston do you want to talk facts? because I assure you I am well versed on all things stewart
"I just slowed down a little bit because I was losing motivation. " - AC
Really strange thing to say.
I dont even understand how stewart could even be mentioned on this track he would have went over the bars so many times read what roger said you have to lean back and ride with your rear wheel well yeah stewart just so happens to ride on his front forks and let alone has the worst suspension set up in history if there were a chance to prove it id bet everything i had that what i just said was right
What a bullsh*t statement, you guys didnt see that?
HE WAS SLOWING DOWN BECAUSE HE LOST MOTIVATION?
Cairoli has been trying to prove to the world that he is the fastest for years, with ZERO success so far (in the MXoN). Herlings was 4sec a lap faster than Cairoli in practice.. I would have been more impressed if Antonio said "Herlings was obviously faster than me, and was catching me (with broken ribs).. I was lucky to have the strength to hold him off for the win". That would have earned more respect.
I'm not saying Herlings could beat Antonio anywhere else, but Herlings was obviously a LEAGUE ABOVE any other rider this weekend. Cairoli included.
By the way, Stanton was right.. Barcia would beat Dungey on a big bike in a matter of time.
Becausa ANTONIO CAIROLI has been around for more than 10 years longer than Adam Cincur.......
Has anyone seen video footage of Barcia's Pass on Dungey that ElsinoreRacer claims caused Dungey to crash?
For that matter, last year someone posted all 3 MXdN motos on YouTube. Has anyone seen links for this year's MXdN motos?
@dinosaurmedia I'm a little late getting back to you and you probably will not see this but I have to dissagree.Haven't something like the last 5 250 world champs come here to race.They all want to come except for the one(AC222). They don't even get purse money for winning overthere.Thinks for the info and I will check out that interview.
@Not4show Just a little sarcasm
@CR500AF I watched it on CBS Sports last night. I don't think JB was close enough to RD to cause the crash. That doesn't mean RD didn't react to JB, but it didn't force him to go down. They looked to be a few feet apart. Kinda like JS and the camera guy. JS reacted to the camera guy but he was no where close to hitting him. Of course I'm not a fanboy looking for excuses. RD wouldn't have gotten passed in the first place if he was going faster than JB.
Funniest comment in all these forums goes to Claxton!!
" Dungey out there trail riding"
Lol
Dungey would crush Carioli anywhere else in the WORLD...he knows it , I know and you know it...and we ain't even talking a good day badass Villapoto.or Havoc7 (on 2 wheels)....alot of crap will get said after this win but to think that its anymore than talk is BS....till they get on even ground we will never know I guess...........come to the Monster cup euros and get that easy MILLIoN ready for the takin......your "world champs" , seems like RED BULL would help you do it or is there a problem with cherry picken a million from those inferior 'just national' riders.........we all said good ride and congrats...and now unless top 5 US riders are lining up at GP's (we ain't)or there top 5 are comin here (we saw how they won everything.....oh wait ..they did'nt)) ....the rest is just TALK....Elsinoreracer ...why does Barcia have to watch out for anyone ...especially someone BEHIND him...f'ing ridiculous...no one is to blame and there doesn't need to be any excuses made. Woulda coulda shoulda....didn't line up or race...
You know what, I take back what i was going to say about this guy. He's one classy dude. Congrats to him!
That being said, I think it would've been a lot different if Villopoto would've been heathly and there. Woulda, Coulda, Shoulda. Oh well. Congrats Germany
@tonewall, Monster cup is a glorified supercross race. It will be one lined and narrow. It was boring to watch last year, and will be boring to watch this year. The B class and superminis were the only excitement last year.
Congrats Tony Cairoli. Great riding. Not all Americans are disrespectful. Some of us just enjoy motocross and appreciate talent, regardless of where it comes from.
Also, Barcia is fun to watch. Period.
I'm a Dungey fan, and not big on Barcia, but you can't Blame Barcia for Dungey swapping out. That track was multilined and you could pass in any straight or corner.
Dungeys bike was stiff and he was riding over the front wheel, He probably needed to do a little offroad riding to learn that sand stuff.
@not an american rene ronnie fktard,
Your eric cartman demeanor leads me to believe that you type from the confines of a dark basement under small lamp , while mom brings you your cheesy poofs and warm milk.
im surprised between all the ghey midget porn and farm animal videos, you have time to grace us with your wisdom.
Not only did you not know where the MXDN was held, you got where KTMs are made wrong, and know you spelled the type of your home wrong. Its spelled DOUBLE WIDE TRAILER not bungalow.
Hey PIZZACORNER if you don'l like the sand pit stay at home nobody forces anybody to come to race.
I also think Barcia rode great you saw he was trying hard and was full of motivation I like his style and attitude ... even so I am a Roczen fan.
It is a one weekend event ... maybe a week later it would look totally different with somebody else crashing or so.
I hope there will be a lot of Americans coming to Germany next year. You all have a good one.
Without ruffling too many feathers, it wouldn't have mattered to the overall if Villopoto was there.
The only difference would've been a different American having their psyche damaged.
Euros rode great, Herlings, Carioli and Roczen were unbeatable by any American racer on that day, on that track. That is really all there is to it.
@spike1911
Thank you for the offer. But if the USA puts together a strong team next year, you are probably going to be the one who needs the beer. Ha!
villopoto would not have made a dif. if not for bike problems dungey would have beat him twice at southwick. If everyone wants to put asterisks next to dungeys championships why not add a few to others. stewarts* tim ferry main competition, reed* was getting beat by alessi till he got hurt, villopoto* if not for running out of fuel while LEADING would have been dungeys. but oh ya according to most of you retards dungeys are worth less
When Stew is riding like he can, and we all no how fast that is, no one in the world can touch him. No doubt in my mind. This fool will be scrubbin on clowns from euro.
Renì from Iraq: you're just a retard escaped from Saddam's mental prisons.
Your brain is so small, just judging from your different nicks: "Not American but go USA". How stupid are you? Get back into your hole and keep eating radish loser.
I applaud those who are man enough to acknowledge what went down and are able to pay their respects to the likes of AC and Herlings without including a 'but...'
But man I see a LOT of sour grapes here!
Rene, you're still just an incompetent, babbling idiot with an pathetic agenda Im afraid. When I saw Herlings lap Baggett on Sunday I thought of people like you and smiled.
JAMMA10: I remember when I went to Franciacorta in 2009 to see the Des Nations. Most of the fans were there to see the Americans and of course Cairoli. All the fans in Europe and in the rest of Europe have always paid lots of respect to the US riders, then there are some retards like this Renè from Iraq who thinks to be a genious by posting a stupid interview to put some crap on a rider who made some history last Sunday, a rider who has always paid respect to the US riders. I have read so many interviews of Tony on the Italian magazines and on Italian web sites over the years and it's really weird that he has never said that crap about the US riders that somebody wants people to believe he really said.
Renè, do a favour to all of us: just push the button of your bomb belt and erase yourself from the face of earth.
Remember when Everts said Americans were afraid to come race the GP at Budds creek and Windham got all fired up and went out there and schooled him? I'm tired of people saying American MX fans are disrectfull and blah blah blah. The crap that has been pulled at the MXDNs to try to beat team USA is a long list. RC used to get fired up for these races for a reason. His motivation was to leave no doubt.
@Crossup
By 'schooled' you mean Windham just edged him for the overall with a 3-1 moto score compared to Everts 1-3 right?
I love the way Americans like to sensationalise even the narrowest of victories. The term 'Schooled' should be reserved for total annihilation, the likes of which we saw in Lommel at the weekend.
http://youtu.be/wTKC2RI7wX4 please check out a video i made yesterday and let me know what you guys think!
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Tony, Tony, Tony...
It is about time you got a break (no pun intended) during the MXdN events of recent memory. As Matthes mentioned, Budds Creek was a disaster, I never saw Colorado, last year at Saint Jean d' Angeley in France was also a disaster and a broken wrist/hand. But this year the Moto Gods left you alone to do what you have been doing for 6 years during the regular GP races. It's great to see you get what you deserve as top individual MX1 rider. You always seem to be the humble gentleman and never speak a bad word of anybody. That (in my opinion) shows "Real Class" in and of itself. In all aspects, you are a true Champion, and have earned every World Championship through hard work, talent, knowledge of your craft and above all, character. Congratulations Tony on a fantastic 2012 GP Season and 2012 MXdN honors that will provide great dreams for you the rest of your life.
You make your Mama proud, Tony!!!
@Crossup Thank you for clarifying my point.
Caseypons: good words dude, thanks! You're a real sport man
Kevin wasn't going to race the GP and was taking time off, but Everts shot his mouth off calling American "cowards". At the last minute the week of the race KDub got a bike and went out there and took home the 1 st place prize. He was faster than Everts all day. KW schooled Everts on the American riders not racing because they were "cowards".
"Caseypons" said it perfectly in his last post!! Congrats to Tony Cairoli on an incredible day of riding!! People need to stop talking trash about the guy...he is always respectful, and humble with his words!!
Cairoli has a heck of a ride. Awesome job. That sand looked tough!
Amazing to see all the leg humping for Barcia. The guy couldnt get out of his own way during the motocross season. Only wins in SX because he knocks others off the track. Almost took out dungy because he has no patience. Wrecked his front wheel again - because he has no patience. At least he shaved his ball tickler 'stash.
mrs. dungey is that you? ^
There once was a rider named Tony,
Some over here called his titles phoney,
While playing in the Lommel sand,
We saw that his talent was grand,
He put all those rumors to rest,
For on this day he was the Best!!!
Tony finally got his day in the sun, to shine brilliantly over the other riders of motocross. He is a true champion of this sport, deserving of all the accolades laid upon him!! Over here we don't hear a lot about him or see him ride, so we were not able to appreciate his talent, that is until this past Sunday, at the Nations race.
Europe has always been the origin of motocross and its roots have remained deep and true. It has not been tempted by the evil step sister supercross, no articical jumps needed, as motocross is man and machine against the toughness and roughness provided by doing battle on mother earth....
@ BD25 Give it a break think MEC That was weak ..........You are getting old .
Peabodybill.... Just giving Tony his due..... probably should have left out the poem...lol..sorry
Hard for me to get to jazzed about the MEC, I am not a big supercross guy, it is entertaining and I will probably get into it once the season starts, but I like the outdoors better, I miss it already, to me Motocross is King..
Yes, I am getting old, have been for quite a while, hair is greying or falling out, but prefer it to the alternative...
Great post I guess poems and long essays make me tired..........Going to bed say hi to all the old times like welker Mx Bob and others for me havent been on the site for about 2 years.........Keep up the great work as always
Peabodybill... I have only been on here for about a year now, glad you found your way back!!! I can be a bit long winded, for that I apologize, Good night...