by Adam Wheeler
Open Mic: Team USA Post Race Reaction
Sunday, September 30, 2012 | 4:15 PM
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PrintFirst post-race reactions from Team USA after finish third in the 66th Motocross of Nations with Ryan Dungey fifth in MX1, Blake Baggett second in MX2 and Justin Barcia fourth in MX Open
Ryan Dungey: Obviously there is a little bit of disappointment… you know we come here to win. Third overall is not bad and we did our best. We came over here early to prepare for the sand and it ended up being a good eye-opener for how I can improve. These guys [Europeans] ride it really well and they did good today so congratulations to Germany and Belgium. I made a few mistakes and you cannot be doing that. I know the next time we come to this track and if I’m on the team then I will be more ready.
On sand riding…
There is a certain technique that over more and more time you can develop. I’m not making excuses…there were things that other riders were doing better. It is a track condition I need to spend more time in and I think that will improve areas of my program. We wanna' win and that’s Team USA and unfortunately it didn’t happen today but we gave it all of our heart, so I cannot be too mad.
On Europeans in the sand…
They are talented guys but from what I hear they are in their backyard. If they came around near where we lived it would be a similar deal. They have very impressive talent and technique that is beautiful to watch and I’ll try and pick-up on some of that and learn.
This is the first time I have been on the team and lost but the number on your plate when you turn up to the next Des Nations is only a number really. The goal never changes when you come to this race. This is a first-time experience and overall it will benefit my career moving forward.
Blake Baggett: We came over here a bit early to try and prepare for the sand because over in the USA we don’t really have anything like this…other than on public beaches and definitely no riding there! We are the best of the best selected to come here for Team USA and I felt we had a good team. We did what we could but this track is like something from my worst nightmare; it was gnarly! Hands down to Cairoli, Germany and Belgium and Herlings…you guys are animals man.
On being the champs and the ‘targets’…
We’ve got some work to do. When we come here it kinda' seems like all the countries are gunning for us but the another side of that means you are doing something right.
On being lapped by Herlings and company....
We knew these guys were fast. You only have to switch on Youtube to see that those guys are gnarly in the sand. It would be the same thing as them turning up at Anaheim 1 and riding Supercross after three days. Hands down to them, they are bad dudes. They have that technique mastered. It’s a skill and we can learn from that.
Justin Barcia (On his first moto collision with Ken De Dycker that led to a broken front wheel and fourteenth position): It was a big mistake on my part because it took out a load of spokes and my front wheel eventually locked up and it was pretty much over from there. Ken kinda came in a bit slower and from the outside. I was on the inside and we met up and that’s what happened; definitely ‘racing’ and those things can happen.
On his rookie Nations showing…
It has been a great experience being on Team USA and we had a great team this year. It is very disappointing not to have won. The track was definitely something I have not ridden in my life before. Nothing can compare to this. It is never-ending; the huge bumps and crazy sand. And I thought it was hard back home! The guys over here are so talented and we tried our best to keep up with them and race them; that’s how it goes down.
Roger DeCoster, Team Manager: Of course we came here to win but first I want to congratulate Team Germany. What they did was very impressive; they stayed out of trouble and didn’t seem to make any mistakes. We were hoping they would do something wrong in that final moto but it never happened. We always expected it would be Holland and Belgium to be the toughest on the sand but we didn’t really count on Germany enough. I have to thank Tony and Jeffrey for the riding lessons; you guys were unbelievable.
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There you have it in black 'n ' white: Herlings and Cairoli are animals in the sand.
No excuses, and humble honesty from the team..., that's character! I applaud our guys for their effort, and conduct as representatives for our country!
Great job Team USA, I for one thank you!
To be fair, Team USA rode with a lot of heart today and never gave up. On a side note, I thought Tanel Leok rode brilliantly today.
Hard day to be JB I suppose, and not to pile on, but De Dycker had nothing to do with JB trying a nutball move from 20 feet back. That move was never there and it's fortunate he didn't cripple De Dycker's race as well.
Would also liked to have heard Dungey's version of his wreck out of 2nd (3rd??) just as JB tries to pass him on the outside (sideways, feet flying, looking like he was about to crash Dungey's way). No contact, but if that photographer made James Stewart crash, then....
This experience will only make these guys that much faster, stronger, and better in the future.... these are the best we have and this was something different than what they have ridden before. They will take this to the bank, all awesome riders and now even better.
Here here ped26, Tanel's efforts were outstanding. I think it says a lot about our sport that we all love, and no matter what side of the pond you come from, ALL of those guys riding today are heroes and deserve the world of respect. It also shows that the level of the riders is equal between AMA and GPs. The two series are two completely different beasts and require a lot of getting used to. In the past however, riders have shown that, whilst being very very difficult, travelling to the other side and winning a championship is possible. I look forward to next year's pre-race banter, and the same high drama that only the des nations can offer! Congrats to Germany once again. The dumb founded expressions they were wearing in the winners circle, when moto 3 had just finished was PRICELESS!!!! What?? Did we really win????
Class act post race comments guys! And thank you for the music Cairoli, Herlings and Roczen, it was a beauty to watch dance in the sand!!
Where are the people that thought USA will do it easily in the european sand?
BTW i am proud as hell that my "local" boys did and won the Des Nations for GERMANY! That's legendary for us - there won't be a Ken Roczen or Max Nagl or Markus Schiffer for years to come as far as i see our young riders pool! But then - who knows!
About team USA - they did well but had trouble as i would have expected!
EVERY SINGLE hard pack rider needs hundreds of hours in those kind of sand.
We do training in that grevenbroich pit every winter almost every weekend - my boy literally wanted to cry almost when we were there (85cc 12 yrs by then) and know he loves riding in the sand and got good doing it.
And just plain simple a repetition of what i posted some days ago the somewhat "arrogant" posters here:
Arrogance comes before the falls - and then still after winning 7 consecutive wins you just had to have to loose eventually ;-)
And yes - your riders are (one of) the best in the world - but the rest of the world is neither dumb or idiots or f...ts (did i spell it right!?) or incompetent but just different and often as talented, focused and good at things that you americans do very well too!
Wake up the (motocross) world is wonderful - NOT ONLY in the U.S.!
And a tip of mine to the AMA - add one or two REAL SAND TRACKS to the series - something like Lommel 2012 would then never happen again.
And now - book your flights - see you all in Teutschenthal 2012 as proud, friendly and open hosts for the MXON - and German will have the plates 1,2,3 at home - wake me up- am i dreaming!
thats' all folks! :-D
I've said it before....Stop grooming the american tracks smooth!!! IT's all they are used to....
So the only way the americans can win is if they get a nice smooth freshly groomed track before the race!!!! what , they can't win on a rough true motocross track????????????????????????
So a smooth track is what alll the american fans are wishing for!!! '' PLease please come to glen helen and race out freshly groomed ,hardpack track so we can beat you!!''
"It was a sand track, it ain't fair, that is not real MX, etc." I would like to point out that the origins of motocross itself began in and around today's race. Sand tracks have always been a staple of European MX which is where all MX comes from.
To say that today's track was weird or unfair is not have any knowledge of the what the sport is or where it came from. Deep-sand MX tracks have always been part of MX. How is this news to anyone?
If we want to talk about an oddball event that is definitely NOT MX, lets talk Supercross. And then some pound on exGP riders for not winning their 1st SX.
Such genius.
I didn't think i would see Germany win that race ever...but when i woke up this morning, i told my friend,.that we can bring it home today... it was just one of those feelings. I really had to hold up my tears at the winning ceremonies. Thanks Ken,Max and Marcus. But you Americans took it like real men.Thanks for that. This Motocross and we are a big family. Thanks for this day in Lommel and Jeffrey, you are just crazy.... Good boy;-)
After the final race Herlings went to the Hospital because they thought he had a broken rib....so resume, crash at the start, from last to almost first with a bruised rib.........i think you can call that a riding lesson.
USA had/has nothing for him, he is the best by far....and only 18 years old !
Cairoli was so lucky because of Herlings misfortune in the final race.
Yes, Cairoli was lucky, whatever dude..., I know Herlings is faster on sand but Cairoli is right behind him and sometimes he can beat Jeffrey.
Kudos to Barcia, he's a real warrior and the only one who put some magic on this 19th century racetrack, and kudos to the mx nationalmannschaft (especially the limited Schiffer who makes the race of his life)
Yes guaneri was laped and you see that he came to he inside too stop herlings for tje 2 points for itali, what he get tony easly. Herlings on deep sand lap everybody
Sorry about my bad englische hahaha
Keep your dumb talking inside your borders loser
@ manes
Herlings is the faster sand rider and that is the first time Herlings and Cairoli have raced each other professionally. If Herlings had a better start he would have been gone. I'm also hearing Herlings broke a rib, not sure how though.
kudos to team USA ... none of them moaning and all being top riders
hope they have enjoyed the whole experience and get a chance to watch the races and see a specialist at work in Herrlings, the kid is pure poetry to watch in the sand and i know anyone who rides would respect his technique irrelevant of the country he rides for
Bam Bam is class ... the guy rides awesome and leaves everything on the track top geezer :-).... i wish they would all race Weston in a few weeks !!!
theped26: I think I said that Herlings is faster on sand, did you notice it? I have no problem in saying that, but Cairoli could keep the same lap times if he wanted to and he also took it easy for a bit, that's what he said. I am sure that during the first moto he rode at the 80% of his potential.
Then there are some retards like this "Not American...", formerly Renè from Iraq, who are blaming the track ( a 19th century track, yeah I remember a race held here in 1860) and other crap like that. I am wondering how the countries of these "I know it all" placed in the final standings to have an idea about how they even dare to write a line. I think my country, Italy, did pretty good, with just two riders, since the MX2 rider was not even able to break into the top 20.
"USA had/has nothing for him, he is the best by far....and only 18 years old !"
hahaha! poor loser and also poor winner and with stupid statement please!
Actually here the rankings of the fastest 250 MX guys in 2012
1. Baggett
2. Barcia
3. Tomac
4. Wilson
5. Roczen
6. Musquin
7. Herlings
8. Searle
and in 250 SX it's obvious that Herlings is not into the top-30!
well done to carolli and herlings on showing the usa the way to win in sand !!
would love to see them in the ama outdoor next year to see what they can do - defo top 5 overall - what do you think all ????
Not American but GO USA : hey Rene, how did Iraq place in the final standing?
Shut up loser, we are talking about the MXDN and you post what? What's that?
Here is a topic about MXDN retard
Blake Bagget had a tough day and was battling all day. Huge props to him for being so generous in defeat. last year when he was trading licks with Dean Wilson I coudnt see anything good about him, but this year he has walked the walk and seems to be a top geezer. Come over and race the GPs Blake that would be fun. Barcia also impressed with his last race, really got to grips withthe track, which ive ridden and is a nightmare. Thankfully next year the de nations is at a mainly hardpack track with elevation; so the mittleeuropen /ktm juggernaught hopefully will come unstuck. Team USA , you made the event by being there, its no fun with out you and apart from Dungey who disapointed I think you did all you could given the nature of the track. What the hell happened to to team GB, may as well not have come, I know its not Tommys thing, but Anstie never seems to be in the right place at the end of the race despite his talent . I raced against his Dad and Uncle and beat then both a couple of times, but hey thats another rather boring story.Well done Germany I suppose, your anthem always worries me....
The USA team got their asses whipped big time, whahahaha, they thought the Euro's are slow, they all got (almost) lapped by a 18 year old child, you better remember this name: Jeffrey Herlings the fastest motocrosser in the world...he comes from a poor family, they had to beg for money to keep Jeffrey on a bike till a couple of years ago, so no fancy private tracks, big expensive trucks and millions here and there, this is real motocross....when he comes to the States it's game over for all wannabe superstars over there.
Wiseguy: Jeffrey is really impressive, also I know his story and he fully deserves his success, he can only improve from now on. Also last year he did well with his bike stuck in 3rd gear, he is great.
Only missing the ox and the plow around that lommel track ...
What's up Renè? KTM won 3 motos, are you happy about that?
Absolutely!, it's about the MXoN here, not about anti-americanism or european false propaganda ... or about Cairoli teeth or Herlings eyebrows ...
The europeans live for Americans, that's why they are here on RacerX and not into their boring euro websites ...
Enjoy it euro's, that will be the last time you see that trophy for the next 30 years, it comes back home next year where it belongs, and i wouldn't even show up in 2015 at the Glen, bye bye now.
I say keep our tracks just like they are. I don't want to watch that crap all the time. We won't have to worry about Lommel again-at least for many years. I love our American tracks. Our tracks are what I consider to be actual MX tracks. I hope we don't start building tracks like that. They can have that ugly sand crap.
Good effort boys. Keep your head up. You just got beat on the ONLY track in the world you could get beat on. Get home safe and prepare for some REAL racing!!!
I watched all three motos early today (thanks Bill C) Did'nt realize I could watch it free on Mxlife because they shafted me on my t-shirt from last years MXON's. I must say I was impressed by all the European riders. I expected Dungy and Baggett to go to the front after mediocre starts, but they did'nt. That track was nothing like us Americans have ever seen or ridden on,, unbelieveable! No excuses though, the American men did well and like Dungy said afterwards, he'll learn from this race and improve himself, again, no excuses.
Congratulations to Team Germany and Team Belgium and Team USA and to all the other brave racers hanging it out there today.
Ryan Dungey said all there needs to be said
"They are talented guys but from what I hear they are in their backyard. If they came around near where we lived it would be a similar deal".
Glen Helen will be USA Dominance!!
I would like to say thank you to RD, BB, JB and the rest of the US team you represented the USA well. Congrats to Germany and Belgium great job.
Dungey riding for KTM, says he is a good sand rider, can't hang in the sand. Sand requires lots of power. KTM is in Germany, Germans win Hmmm? Euro economy very bad. Money talks, everything else walks. Hmmm? In this day when corruption seems to appear everywhere, would not surprise me at all.
Gifted, you are a retard. KTM is not German or in germany.
Rene-Ronnie-NOT AN AMERICAN-------- Three things..... L O L
Not just beat...... LAPPED you AK-NAAAD INFIDEL LOVING MAN MATTRESS
1. Jeffrey Herlings......Hol
2. Tanel Leok..............Est
3. Ken DeDycker........Bel
4. Ken Roczen............Ger
5. David Guarneri........Ita
6. Blake Baggett.........USA
7. Marcus Schiffer.......Ger
8. Todd Waters............Oz
9. Max Anstie..............GB
10. Xavier Boog...........Fra
11. Marvin Musquin.....Fra
13. Luis Correia...........Por
14. Justin Barcia..........USA
15. Priit Ratsep............Est
NONE OF THIS PROVES ANYTHING ABOUT THE GP AND AMERICAN RIDERS BEING ON THE SAME LEVEL THEY ARENT EVEN CLOOSEE!!!. IT JUST PROVES EUROPEANS CAN RIDE BEACH SAND EXTREMELY WELL. ID RATHER BE DECENT IN THE BEACH SAND THAT ID ONLY HAVE TO RIDE ONCE IN A CAREER AND BE BADASS ON EVERYTHING ELSE THAN BE A BADASS SAND ONLY RIDER
Pretty sure we'd have won, IF we had the factory Hodakas. Congrads to Germany , well done. I like the Roczen kid, he's gonna do well in supercross as well.
We should have sent the 1981 team those guys could ride Lommel sand, hey mate.
Saw "auto racing" on CBS sports at 9 central. Tuned in and it's MXON!
The track is very interesting. I normally like traditional moto layouts but it's even a little too vanilla for me. Varying size sand whoops and rollers, a double, and one big tabletop. I know nothing about that part of the world but I was expecting some elevation change and a little bit more air time. Team USA should've just found some beach over here to ride up and down fpr practice until it got whooped out, and then rode some more...and more.
Hey, they run a beach race here in south Jersey not far from Atlantic city,i believe, it was even mentioned in one of"racer heads". Would be a perfect practice for lommel. even better, do a national here so we wouldn't have to drive 4 hours to unadilla or buds creek:)
Going into this I was reading all of the comments on here shaking my head at a lot of the over confidence by my fellow Americans. I knew this race was going to be very difficult for us. canadianMXfan... Not sure what you are talking about but they don't groom the tracks anymore during the nationals. It wasn't about it being "rough", it was about technique in carrying momentum in the deep sand, which those guys do very well. Congrats to Germany for their first, they had a magical day today. Also congrats to Carroli for finally getting the MXdN monkey off his back, that has to feel good. Herrings as expected is amazing in sand, would love to see exactly where he makes up so much time. As for the "Herlings is the best rider in the world comments", give me a break. One race in the deep sand is a little early to start thinking that. He will be over in the US in a year or two and we will see how well he does. It's not as easy, as Musquin and Roczen can attest.
And finally congrats to ouor guys, they gave it their best. Made just a few too many mistakes to take home the trophy. Also realize the pressure that they have on their shoulders. Every country for the most part is coming on looking for a podium, while USA is expected to win any is looked at that anything but a win is a failure. Glad everyone was safe and that's what really matters.
OUR team should have rode at the INDIANA dunes. They would have been more prepared. The dunes is the gnarliest sand I have seen in my life. i couldnt even ride my 2 stroke there. I pulled out my ATC 110 3 wheeler and still got stuck
I thought the commentators were hilarious especially when Bagget was being lapped. Hats off to Herlings had 20 plus mins behind Cairolli and closed up to 1 sec. Cairolli can claim victory but Herlings is still king of sand.
I thought Baggett rode pretty good. Considering I thought he wasn't much of a sand rider. You could tell him and Kroc were spent at the end of that 2nd moto. Barcia rode great, just not smart.
Dungey..... Poor guy. He just wasn't that great on that track. He has been an American hero when it comes to Des nations. Always rising to the occasion (much like Kroc). However not this time. It happens though. Next year.
As I am an Aussie. Was good to see Todd Waters do well. The fact he grew up only 30mins from me helps too :-P
WOW funny how we have won it more then any country and will continue to win it more then any country, but were now slow sissy's who ride girly groomed tracks but weve won it many many many times on Euro tracks. Dumb**ses
QUOTE: from some euro guy name Stefan Everts "RC is the fastest person I have ever seen ride a motorcycle" Quote from RC on Stefan " I have never ridden so hard in my life to pass someone" Amazing those two nobodys can give each other props but some 125 beginner keyboard commando has to bash .
Europeans are hell of techincal riders, they kick our a**es off-road year in and year out David Knight, Taddy B. Antonio Meo, Juha, etc those dudes are crazy insane talented!!!
Holy Mother of Ass,
I have not gotten by that photo of Barcia, Dungey and the emotion captured in a single image.
Caption completely un-necessary. I haven't read one single word of Adam Wheelers always thought provoking writing, All I need is to take in the drama that a moment limage ocked in time for infinity can portray!
Time waits for no one...
Hep Me Lord!
RCRDDW, are you serious..get ready for some real racing????
From what i have seen with the ama it's usually one guy out front with no one near him and hardly any passing...all the tracks are the same mostly smooth tracks with some short rough section ...Everybody is spead out settling into their own pace...Ya, real racing!!! lol
Props to GPMX
Sure not the KROC we see here....
Never would have thought BB could get lapped......
Who was that on Dungeys bike ?
It happens but ouch
JimM
Pala374
I was at the mxon in budds creek some years ago and there we europeans got about the same riding lesson from your guy Villopoto. I remember he pulled some 15 seconds on the first lap. We were all stunned with his skills on that track. We left the states humbled and happy that we had been there to see it live. It came as no surprise to me the opposite thing happened in Lommel this year. Sand riding is a skill that takes a long time to get good at. I am a pretty good rider myself but when I visit the sand tracks in Sweden I look like an amateur. Your guys did not look like amateur even though they have not ridden in these conditions before. They were fast as hell and beat most of the GP riders. Congrats to AC, JH, Germany, Belgium and all the others. It was a great show yesterday.
@ElsinoreRacer There was no contact made between Dungey and Barcia. Barcia was in front of Dungey in the first place. When they came over the jump, Barcia got loose and Dungey did the Exact thing only Dungey's front wheel started sliding out from under him sending him off the track, hitting the fence and thus for causing him to falling down.
Fall* not falling.
4 Renè the Iraqi loser: I think you should dig a big hole and stuck your dirty face in it for good, so that your filthy mouth will be shut forever, incompetent. Your ugly face could scare even a dead man.
You are always looking for excuses, that's what a piece of crap of the society does to try to survive.
Swede2 - thanks for legit comments ...
TeamUSA - the same
So the US loses it's 1st MXDON since Matthes a Candian wrenched TFerry in 2003 and suddently the US guys are soft - one loss ..... - How many victories?
Glad to see the American team admit flat out defeat and most of the American fans also being good losers. Just dont like Dungey's comment about a similar thing happening in the American backyard. yes the Euro's will lose in that case but not as badly as the americans at lommel
We've seen great motocross in one of the last decent tracks that remains in the Gp calendar...
Germany was great, Roczen and Nagl being where we expected them to, and Schiffer having in best MXdN result in race 2. Somehow, he was maybe the real german hero in Lommel.
Belgium where good, consistant, but theu didn't produce anything special and that's how they lost to Germany.
USA got troubles in a new environnement for them, but they never gave up, and being able to save a pot on the podium is not so bad.
Cairoli and Herlings where E.T, but that was our expectation as well.
Paulin was great as well, he is the man for France when it comes to the Nations. On the other hand, we can start to wonder what has happened to Musquin in the last 2 years, as he clearly lost the speed he had in 2009 and 2010...
Leok, Waters, Guarneri produced nice performances.
Team GB never existed (Searle is not so good in deep sand, as we could see in Lierop).
Teutschenthal being one of the most boring race in the GP calendar, hope you all enjoyed Lommel 2012, cause it's gonna be a different show next year.
Americans,Germans,Belgians..... EVERYBODY can be proud of their work and their flag!
Beautifull day for our sport under the sun. And not a word about it on any European's TV sportnews;
Is it the same on US TV ??
(Th. from Belgium)
American slang "We got our ass's handed to us",......Nobody said that yet. Much as it hurts to loose, its sorta refreshing to see someone else win once in a while. Nobody topped Johnny O's ride yet.
After watching the race live in Lommel and having seen the replay of the race on tv these are my conclusions:
First time in years the mxon is on a rough track and USA barely makes it on the podium
No matter what happens at the next mxon comming years, the top GP guys won't get lapped like Barci and Bagget.
Antoni Cairoli can hang with Dungey on a fast racetrack, but is way faster on a rough or sand track. This makes him the most complete racer of outdoor tracks
If US riders come over to race a GP season they won't win because they can't handle a rough racetrack, so stop saying that Cairoli or Herlings have to come over to prove themselves... why not bring some top us riders over here??? same thing.
Herlings fell on the first lap of the last race and climbed up to second place and was a minute in front of Barcia! No one will be a minute in front of Herlings in the next mxon...so you can all you want about next year this or that...but the GP guys will be much closer to the front!
Even if the US win all three races next year at the mxon, the will not be minute in front or lap the top GP riders...
This makes 2 years in a row that RD got passed by our MX3 guy. RD fell and rode in 11th place for the hole race!!! Picked up one spot when the Rusky crashed and not sure how he got the other spot to finish 9th but either way unless he was hurt from the crash that wan NOT a good ride at all. He also crashed in his other moto. Over all I was a little let down by how he did. Barcia pulled a VERY stupid move in his first moto whitch came back to bit him on the last lap an cost us 9 points but his second moto was GREAT. Baggett had a bad firts moto because of a bad start and two crashes but he aswell put in a GREAT 2nd moto ride. The way I see it if JB had stayed in 4th in his firts moto and not made the stupid move and if RD had not crashed in moto 3 and got 4th or 5th we would have won it. so over all we had a shot whitch is more than most thought over there. If the race was run again next weekend I would bet on team USA again!! (not that it matters cuz it is run once and we got beat) But I just don't see RD crashing twice again next week and he once again could not make a pass!! I really thought RD would have done better, that and him crashing both moto's was the biggest surpise to me.
Does that pic at the top of JB and RD with Keho tell us anything?? Did JB cause RD to crash?? Hmmmmmmmmmm if so how will this play out next year with them two?? RD already not a Fan of JB after Unadilla last year.
wiseguy we heard the same thing about Roczen last year.
Oh yeak and MM the year before
BillC with all the tears that must drip on your keyboard I can't believe it has not shorted out, do you really need to bash our riders just because your boy was unable to make it? Wait with all those spelling errors maybe it is dying!!!
Me_Gusta, if you look, I said "no contact."
But yes, I think Barcia's swapping while trying to pass Dungey caused Dungey's crash. RD had to back off as it looked like JB was wrecking towards him. Both commentators in the original live contrast thought that, as well as Emig and whoever the other guy was on the US broadcast.
Not pullin this outta thin air, mate.
Anybody who tries to make excuses for our team is being foolish!! That was a straight up ass-whoopin we got over there, i love our team i was pulling for our team, but to try and spin it any other way is just ridiculous!! Also, to say "well, just wait until they come over here, or "sand tracks are stupid" (which some have) is ridiculous also. THAT was a gnarly form of motocross fellas....GNARLY.....and our guys struggled badly with it!! THEY KNOW IT TOO!! A humbling experience i'm sure, but some of "us" USA fans needed to be humbled a little bit!! Get 'em next year fellas!!
Can someone tell me if Dungey was allowed to cut the track like he did after his little crash?
Barcia did not cause Dungey to crash he was on the other side of the track. Dungey crashed because he was trail riding that big inside hole and his front tucked under. WTH was he doing getting smoked by Bam anyway since he is the fast team captain? I have new found respect for Barcia and his back to back motos proved he is in shape and he let it all hang out.
I don't recall any team from US getting all riders lapped in history, and yes Dungey gets counted because he was only 15 seconds from it in last moto. We know Herlings would have without that horrible start.
I am not disappointed they lost it happens but it is apparent we need rougher tracks because our previous teams never got scarfed on like this. Hey we won at Lommel in 1981 and how did those guys learn to ride the sand so well? On any type rough European track they would kick our butts every time. Hangtown was once a very rough track but not anymore, like all our tracks they hauled in tons of new soil to take the water better. Oh yes, and don't forget all the grading all day long to keep the ruts out, you know like those in Lommel.
As for the picture above I see Dungey saying "how did you get so fast on a 450 so quick Bam. Barcia rolls his eyes and says, "look what you have to look forward to from now on Ryan".
Interesting how many fare-weather fans we have in the sport. Hey Bill C, Maybe we should send you over next year on the MX1 bike so you can show Dungey how it's done. It seems funny that you'll take any opportunity to knock him down - What, a guy is not allowed to have a bad race from time to time. He's still the best we had including the guy on the green bike who you love so much. The smell of your so called expert commentary on this board has grown some serious stench from your arrogance. So get off your high horse and give these guys some props. Sure were all disappointed they lost but get off the bash wagon already. I like RV but I hope Dungey waxes him just to shut you up.
LOL your a sad sack rrmriding!!! I said I would bet on them if they raced again this weekend!! I think your a little sensitive, Little sand in the vag maybe?? How did I knock him down?? Tell me one thing I posted that is not a fact. If there is something that is a fact it is not putting someone down in my book.
and Hoping RV gets beat shows what type of person you are. I hope for people to do well and NEVER hope anyone does bad.
It seems there was some need for JS7! To all of you idiots that put him down F_ck you! We'll see who gonna hold it down for 2013, you biatches!
I read some of the most stupidest comments ever about JS7 being on the MXnD team, his riding style, his character, and his heart now you see why he could have represented the USA team as good as anyone. Crashes are apart of racing, nothing tp hold against a rider for trying 100%. Like the idiots that wright there stupid comments about JS7.
In your face, they all crash!
We sent the best we had over to the MXON and got third. I am proud of our team and they should be proud of themselves.
@ starplaya4life............get a room with JS7. He's not out there becuase he
can't even make 2 weekends in a row without getting hurt. He didn't deserve to go,
because he didn't ride the whole year and others deserved it more. My God,
are you just a little wanna be. Stewarts great indoors (when he rides without taking out others), but outdoors Ain't no mo.........hommo... (I'm sorry, Momie)
Everybody don't forget Team USA can still reload our guns. We still have JS7 and RV! So next year will be a shoot out on a whole different level!
We're PISSED now MXnD! Bring it ON!!
Oooh the old sand in the vag trick, how appropriate given the race location, OUCH.
LOL JS7... cant believe somebody actually brought him up. Delusional in defeat comes to mind.... Great job Euros! Stoked for Germany, my Oma actually smiled about something today. I'll drink quite a few to Germany! Crappy to see the USA lose but is good to lose once in a while. Will make us stronger.
Give credit to Cairoli, Herling and the German team for getting it done. Credit should also go to our riders for never giving up and telling it the way it is.
We can and will rise to the occassion. This should be a wake up call. Thanks for the effort Team USA!
Barster.......
Yes we got schooled and props to GPMX for that but........
Check the last 5 - 10 - 15 - or 20 years scoreboard and get back to me with our wins in your back yard.
JimM
Pala374
Herlings and Cairoli were amazing. How about Herlings giving up the better gate pick to his teammate and then going from 28th place to the front! Great job for USA to get on the podium. I agree the pic above says all that needs to be said whether JB was a factor in RD's crash. Yes RD was already having a moment but he couldn't try to pull out of it because JB was having his own moment and braking right in front of him.
@ElsinoreRacer I watched the whole thing, jackass. I was simply explaining what took place. Quick to get your balls twisted aren't we?
I rode at the Wildwood, NJ beach race this spring, it was the coolest thing ever! Quads kind of ruined it so it wasn't that rough, but I wish they had more races like it. Now they have canceled the Fall race and who knows if we'll ever be able to race on a public beach again here in the US. Just saying, a pro national on a public beach... wow that would be awesome to race and even cooler to spectate - someone get on that please, wishful thinking
Me_Gusta, my angry little man friend; name calling is juvenile. We disagree on what we both saw. I and both commentators from two different broadcasts saw it one way. You saw it another. I am fine with that. What I am not fine with is your interest in the state of my gonads.
ElsinoreRacer, They way in which the response to me was written was in a Jackass 'Tone'. Sorry for calling it like I see it. That said, I have no interest in your gonads. What you do with them is all up to you. And Barcia had already made the pass on Dungey and had a 1 1/2-2 Bike length on him when the Incident happened. But like you said, We disagree and that's life. Time to get a beer and move on.
I think USA fares better at any track that isn't sand regardless of how rough it is. The key was the sand. Ask Roczen or Musquin...
1st pitcher is on me. Cheers.