MXoN Qualifying Overall - MX1
Saturday, September 29, 2012 | 9:15 AMMX1 Qualifying Overall
- A. Cairoli
- M. Nagl
- C. Desalle
- G. Paulin
- E. Bobryshev
- R. Dugney
- M.de Reuver
- R. Goncalves
- J. Coppins
- T. Searle
- M. Barr
- N. Hansen
- G. Krestinov
- F. Neugebauer
- L. Soderberg
- K. Lindstrom
- M. Irt
- L. Bopping
- K. Jarva
- M. Ogata
- D. Ivanovs
- M. Schogler
- R. Westhuizen
- J. Cros
- P. Kouzis
- G. Gentil
- N. Rustela
- C. Badiali
- M. Szoke
- V. Gudbergsso
- G. Aponte
- K. Boonate
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So what was that about Dungey wiping the track with the euros?
Calm down there fella. Anyone who said that and believed it didn't have much knowledge of the sport. Lommel something neither 3 Americans have ever rode before and will probably struggle with. On top of that it is only qualifying if you didn't notice. Plus Dungey lost his goggles mid way through the race. No excuses the Euros will be good on the track just pointing some things out for ya.
Dungey didnt even have the fastest qualifying times here in the U.S., then went on to destroy the field week in and week out. Dont worry, he'll wick it up a notch in the actual race.
I thought Barcia was racing MX1??? Any word on him?
Barcia is racing MX3
thanks bro
Not hard to think this would be the moronic comments. As has played out in SX and MX time and again.......winning practice and qualifying is where it's at, right?
No doubt Team USA wants to show their hands as well as risk injury when the idea is to QUALIFY for the necessary races tomorrow. I recall Dungey being 5th fastest in qualifying at Nationals this year. I also recall Baggett kicking serious ass in his qualifiers at the MXoN last year and then pulling 17-17 scores. Never pay attention to anything but the actual races.
@Klepto: 2 things...
1)who said Dunge would "wipe the field"? he's too classy to say that. he'll just do it on race day.
2)quit stealing stuff!
ps- whenever i think about dunge career i think about that go nowhere JLaw. remember him? i think i saw him begging for change at an exit ramp. lol
Good racing but the commentating on mx-life is horrible. I was expecting good commentating out of the euros... but nope more of the usual boys club chatting while there is good racing going on in the background.
How long are the qualifying races?
@ 731Chopper
The commentator is Paul Malin. He is really good come race day.
20 min + 2 laps MotoMTBR33, Our boys are still warming up!!
ok... stupid question, but what is different about MX1 and MX3?
I tried to google it but could not find a recent post about it..
MX1 is the 450s. I think MX3 is open. So run what ya brung I believe. But you will probably see mostly 450s I am guessing. Although I think Herlings runs the 350? Anyone else correct me if I am wrong
Guys, I'm USA but I am not buying that are guys were laying-up (not showing their hand) and saving it for tomorrow. Think about how many qualification races our boys won in MXoN races past???
The track is a great equalizer this year and our guys will need excellent starts and the best of luck to pull a moto win against the locals!
Mx3 is open class...450, 350 or 250. Most countries would run 450. Some will do 250 or 350
yes, MX3 is the old 500 class, now called open and they almost always run a 450.
It's not really MX3, it's an open class, that means 250cc 4 strokes +
I am pretty sure that the MX3 class doesn't allow the Ktm 350.
If you check the standings there is an open class, not an mx3 class.
@ OldGrey I hope you are wrong but I agree with you. This track is just something they haven't seen before. Look no further than Ken Roczen going 3 secs a lap faster than Bagget. Again it is qualifying and winning the practice race doesn't always translate into a win in the race but we will see tomorrow. That is a lot of time to make up.
Welp, I'm betting E. Bobryshev will be AMA Supercross and Motocross champion in 2013. Based on these results.
Now I see, make the US guys take their goggles off to even things out! Are you kidding me, no goggles on a sand track?!
anyone see why Dungey lost his goggles? Crash? lose tearoffs?
Roczen was 3 seconds faster on an early lap, pay attention to the later laps and when Baggett's fast lap was......it was several seconds faster than the guys ahead of him......including Roczen.....add another 10 minutes and...... Remember how many times Roczen lead AMA races this year before falling back at the end? Remember what Baggett does in the last 15 minutes.
They said he pulled tear off the first time and they all started flapping and hanging off.
Little bird told me JLaw is over there racing a Husky for team Iceland.
Hmmmm, I've seen that 'Dugney' guy in an article on this side of the Atlantic too. :^)
Im pretty sure we are going to be just fine if dungey the most solid consistent guy on the team appeared to be the weak link we'll be fine barcia made a mistake but was only 2 sec off herlings on their best lap
lmao they said herlings would lap barcia when barcia had his bike wedge under the fence for what seemed like an eternity and herlings still didnt even come close to lapping him
Please people! Like BillC said, our guys are still warming up. If you don't think the Dunge will be 3 seconds a lap faster tomorrow then you are a novice. And he'll have tear offs also. And as others have already mentioned, wait until about 20 minutes in to the main and see what Baggett starts doing tomorrow. He has a valuable year of experience behind him now too. I will admit that Barcia is like flipping a coin though...
B-KR wrote: Never pay attention to anything but the actual races.
Wow, you yanks certainly change your tune, don´t you? I distinctly recall last year when your guys won the quali races you were crowing like good old barn yard roosters on Saturday evening.
Anyway, your guys did about how I expected. Dungey rode really well and was only about a minute behind the Champ. Trust me, for his first time at Lommel, that is more than respectable.
Blake was what I expected as well. He´s the best sand rider on the team and is a joy to watch, smooth and in control. I expect him to be team USA´s best tomorrow.
Barcia is a clown.A fast clown, but a clown nevertheless. A second place behind JH would have put the US right up there, but he battles him instead, even when the guy was pulling away, and sticks it into the boardings. Technically, he should be disqualified for breaking two rules, receiving outside assistence (from a member of team USA as it happens) and also for not rejoining the track where he left it. Nothing will be done though as this is team USA after all. You know, we are all equal, only, some are more equal than others. LOL.
Anyway yanks team Germany were the business today, so I will sleep well, confident in our ability to get the job done tomorrow if all goes well. And my team Europe was, well, I won´t rub it in. Good nite. See you in the morning.
Barcia was disqualified for receiving outside assistance from Chuck Sun getting him out of the fence. Barcia's official qualification was last place. :-(
USA overall qualification was 6th place. :-(
My opinion is Baggett and Barcia looked great and fast enough to get 2nds in their class but I am more then concerned about Dungey, he got waxed even before his goggles came off. Sure he was in 4th but 35 seconds off the pace. I don't care what the surface is no way should a USA rider be getting scarfed on like that, you know RV would not. Dunge was in second but let others go right on by him off the start whereas Barcia and Baggett kept the hammers down. I hope I am wrong on this but Dungey just might be our downfall this year. All we need to win is 2nds and 3rds nothing else. So kudos to Bam and BB and get well soon to RD.
they only keep the two best scores anyways so it didnt matter anyways because dungey got 6th as well
So basically what Euromike was saying is that they have to race every race at a track Lommel so the Euros have a shot at beating USA? Did I get that right? And that he doesn't care who wins as long as it's not team USA LOL just talking some smack.
Seriously though the track is going to be tough for us. They don't ride on that kind of terrain here. At least not on any national tracks so it will be tough for them. Hopefully they can improve between now and tomorrow. Barcia needs to keep the rubber side down and not ride over his head. Dungey lost his goggles, it's a lot to ask of anyone on a sandy track. Even with them I don't know if he catches AC or nagi. Well it's still fun to watch them ride on a a different type of track with some of the best riders in the world.
i agree claxton but if dungey is our weak link that can be a good thing if barcia and baggett dont have any meltdowns tomorrow besides the crash barcia looked solid
If anyone here didn't get to watch these races, they have some footage posted over at VURBMOTO.
Claxton, I have confidence in Dungey, I feel strongly he will hold up his end of the deal tomorrow. That last 10-mins. Dunge will get-r-done for a good scoring finish (I didn't say a win)! Like I mentioned yesterday, Barcia has me worried. I sure hope the team can keep him thinking..., "TEAM"???
We shall all see soon enough!
Time for some sleep now. :-)
@Claxton You may be right but his lap times were increasing up until his goggle came off. You look at it and it's not really suprising he always takes a little while for him to get going but he usually improves as the race goes on.
This is all crap talking, races are tomorrow and the track will be much different so everything can happen.
barcia was just being barcia no worries everytime he got passed this year he tried to run with them for a bit (as any racer should) before realizing the big picture he'll do fine tomorrow
lol at that guy euromike, he doesnt know what he's talking about! Everyone knows that Baggett, Dungey and Barcia will pull it off tomorrow! Yeah euro's may have home advantage on that track cause of the nasty sand but team usa only needs a couple of good scores to get another trophy while the euros stuggle to at least have two good rides, said that team usa are the best riders in the world hands down! Dungey showing Cairolli what it was all about a couple of years ago and Baggett and Barcia destroying Musquin and Roczen this past year! btw im not for the USA just to let you know
So be a fan of your country, easy to be a fan of team USA because they always win
I can see why Dugney lost his googles, he was in the roost all the time.... Because he wasn't fast enough... He is used to race slower guys.
Can't believe someone said this Paul Malin is a good commentator. He is the only person that could make me goto sleep watching des nations. Also watching MX3, his comments to Barcia getting outside assitance. errrr Good work trying to get him Disqualified :/
Ollie.....does yur mum know yur on her computer?
Ollie.....trying to remember how long it took yur 'wurld champs' musk&rocz; to podium over here amongst our 'slow guys'....
USA still wins no matter what u guys say. Like we said earlier we may lose individual races but the2012 trophy is still ours. YOU could STAMP that. By the way this is only qualifying and Dungey beat Marc dereuver who is from Netherlands where they have sand all the time. GO DUNGEY!!! we will get em tomorrow.
@euromike Ollie and the rest of you premature ejaculosers....its qualifing...Dungeys slow Baggett will get tired and Barcia....well Barcia will be Barcia.....keep dreamin.........its a LONG way from the 15th round....no excuses are needed or will be unecessary..i'll .remember we don't have a chance and will probably get lapped......and you remember this ...you ain't seen shit ...YET..
dgizzy1 word!
Dungey had a poor start, and had moved up to fourth and was right on top of 3rd when he finally ditched his goggles,
All dungey needs is a better start. Which for the races that count tomorrow he will do. Still 2nd to Cairoli, but will be good for the title.
Baggett had nothing for Roczen, but he will come home a solid 3rd-4th which will be good for the title. I think he learned from last year, and Rozen beat him straight last year in france also.
Barcia is still my concern, I don't think he knows what it means to be a TEAM player, and to take 2nd to herlings and bring home the title
Hey tonewall....i bet none of those tossers will be posting anything tomorrow lol !! #USAalltheway
Barcia was wild card
He knew if he didn't get better than 6th it didn't matter
So hang it out and see.
Roger has these guys all knowed up on how to 'team'
Barcia and Dugney wouldn't crack top 5 in a sand GP.
Lommel is a track unlike these guys have never seen before. European old style deep pure sand track. There is no track stateside to compare it to. 18 year old Jeff Herlings will be the fastest rider on the track. He will win going away. Cairoli and Roczen will also be very fast. Dungey will be top 5.
DPR57 wrote:
Barcia was wild card
He knew if he didn't get better than 6th it didn't matter
Wrong. If he had settled for 2nd, team USA would have dropped Dungey´s 6th and would have qualified 2nd. Barcia is just stupid.
Not4show wrote:
Dungey had a poor start, and had moved up to fourth and was right on top of 3rd when he finally ditched his goggles.
BS. Dungey was 2nd into the first turn and 4th out. Take those rose colored glasses off.
I really think Baggett will beat Roczen tomorrow and I also think both of them will be well into the top 10 overall in their motos.
All the talk is just that, talk.....and talk is cheap. We heard all the same talk on Saturday last year after qualifying and none of it resembled what happened in the races very much at all. Baggett looked unstoppable in qualifying then laid an egg in the races. We all watched Baggett whip Roczen's hiney countless times over this summer and now Roczen will do the whipping? Roczen surely should have gine 1-1 at Southwick if the issue is sand.....even though Southwick is SOOOOO much different than the track here. Yet, Roczen didn't even win a moto at the Wick. Will be good racing tomorrow and I wouldn't count on anything other than Cairoli and Herlings will be fast and all 3 US riders will be in the thick of it.
@Euromike
You know this is only qualifing right? We are used to seeing Dungey tip-toe around during qualifying only to come out during the race and run laptimes that no Euro rider would ever come close to. Ever hear of Ryan Vilipoto? How about James Stewart? Chad Reed? Yea... those guys..... have all been beaten by Dungey..... and they could and would crush anyone on the other side of the pond.
(I put Reed in there because he is basicly an american rider now, he has been here for 10 years.. i think he has earned his place.)
I love all these comments, like the old saying opinions are just like butts, everyone has one and they pretty much stink. No one knows what is going to happen, we all wish for a certain result but at the end of the day that is why they race and anything can happen, the track is going to be tough hope it is a great race.
Go US.
I don't like all the fighting between American fans and Euro/Other fans from all nations....can't we just appreciate good riding and racing!? I've been to (3) MXdN's (US x2 / England x1) and all were the most spectacular, most amazing racing experiences I have ever been at! I've seen so many great races and riders-- Caroli, DeSalle, Stewart, Everts, Villopoto, etc. And i've appreciated everyone of those races as well and RESPECTED everyone and gave props where props were due. Period. This is the most amazing and biggest event of OUR Sport-- let's not ruin with lude, crude and disrespectful comments-- it's BS to do so. Long Live MXdN! And cant wait until 2015!
P.S. And, when I was in England, I was lucky enough to be able to bench race with equally respectful avid fans....and it was so much more fun talking and having fun than getting mad at each other!
Yes, Dugney can crack top five tomorrow. If the rest of the riders race without googles...
yeah they only make sand in Europe....we have a place called the mojave ...its 47 THOUSAND square miles....maybe theres some sand there....call in monday after the RACES ...we could give a giant crap about qualifying.....we know how Dungey works.....let the best man win ...you win ..good for you congrats ...we win...nothing really new there.lol...and MXP Rudi....c'mon dude its a multi-nation race...lets just hold hands and chant...you don't know much about most Americans do you....to us its part of the fun ...no harm meant and ain't NOBODY losin no sleep over Euromikey or Oliver..trust me....Go JB....now its on to the REAL bizness...were behind you 100%.....Ollie once every ten years or so on a track like this guys like you shoot off your mouth.... ...talk to us monday maybe you'll have something to brag about for another ten years....Maybe NOT.....just remember we were kind enough to not send RV on a 250.....
always the same trash talk. I think Villopoto said before a sand GP this year when he got the question if Team USA would be ready for this gnarly sand track. Answer: The riders that will be picked are pros and will be ready for the task. Home track advantage? Well, the US have 3 factory riggs with them. trained on sandtracks for quite some time. No excuses, they must win. It`s like saying that Musquin and Roczen are going to win in next year, because they have never ridden the tracks. It`s there job to race, no matter what the surface.
I think we (euros) make these comments because americans ALLWAYS think they are the best in every race all the time. I think GP riders and AMA riders are about the same speed. The difference are the tracks and type off racing. I lived in the US and loved it, but I don't like the thinking "nothing but the US".
Hahahah this forum makes for funny reading!! Sucks there is no footage uploaded yet. Ah whilst typing found this!! Yes yes..thank me please :-)))
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-19tR8Opus
Hummm. If we don't beat EuroMike's dream team tomorrow and yet we still win the MXDN then it means nothing to me.All I care about is beating the dream team period.
hey euromike, you really exemplify the attitude of overseas people towards the usa people, maybe if we write a big fat check to u, you might like us for a little while? I hate to get ugly on this thread, but damn dude, you make it out to be like a war. It's just racing. We're alright riding a track that favors you guys. If you go, please don't be one of the bholes to throw sh*t at the yanks...let them decide on the track. No matter if AC wins or not, he's one ugly dude and nothing will change that. I do like our chances as a team on any track in the world and you can bet if we lose, Dungey for one will give credit to the winners for being better than us on that day. I hope you would view us differently and let go of the tension that may lead to a stroke or heart failure. We are the goods guys that just like this great sport of MX.
OLLIE, PICK YOUR BEST GUY AND GIVE ONE OF OUR RIDERS JUST 30 DAYS TO PRACTICE ON YOUR SOIL AND THEY WILL CRUSH THEM
Please........anyone but chomper....
JimM
Pala374
@dash. I stopped reading your trash when I read your distasteful comment about the world champion. I´ve never seen you dude, but even so, I already know Tony is beautiful compared to you. Saying something personal and disrespectful like that about one of the greatest our sport has ever seen shows me you aren´t really a MX fan, just an ar$ehole.
@EuroMike--You have alot of gall calling someone out.. You are the most disrespectful guy out there.. The only reason you get on this site is to bag on Americans, you have said some pretty distasteful things, so you of all people have no right to call out anyone on that.. You want to see an ugly person, look in the mirror..