What brand will Ryan Villopoto be riding in 2013?
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PrintWhat brand will Ryan Villopoto be riding in 2013?
Kawasaki 7777 votes - 64.2%
Honda 3816 votes - 31.5%
Other 523 votes - 4.3%
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He going to HUSKY
KTM Super team.
RV will be riding the mean green pickle machine with Mandingo Pickles as the title sponsor. I know Steve Matthes has invested a lot of money in Mandingo Pickles!!! Yes, thats a fat joke
FYI: I have no inside knowledge to back my claim, Justsaying
anything but Honda!!! please
I would think anything but Yamaha would make more sense, but I believe he will stay green.
Word on the Streets is Two Two
I've got a friend who's friends with RV. Going to Two Two
Thats all great but how is he paying for that !!!!
Monster I would assume
I think he would do well on green or red, can't see him on orange,yellow or blue. The kawi is a great base to start from. Honda hopefully will have the bugs worked out with the 13's
RV going to factory Hodaka for 2013!
Wow! 30% of the votes are showing themselves to be delusional :-) Every last one of them is likely a Honda FanBoy. Like that would happen.
Sheesh.
Go orange!! The best bikes, the best team manager, the most progressive philosophy, best atmosphere, the best sponsor Red Bull and more money than most
retired-promxer, in many ways i agree...not to mention that KTM is still improving on their 2 stroke....THe Japan companies seem to be greedy with only selling 4 strokes,...
And the stock 2 stroke yamaha apparently hasn't been improved much over the years...
i don't know about the best sponsor, lol, they may have money to burn but their product is garbage!!!!
Hodaka all the way . They just came out with a works water cooler. Even Payton Pro Circuit and Team Geiko have been looking hard at the new bikes. Like KTM they have been biding their time and are trying to lure Decoster to the Mighty H .. The chrome tank will blind them . Even the office employees cannot believe how cold the water is with the new cooler. It is that fast.
I cannot believe Abraham Lincoln said "You cannot believe everything you read on the inernet" This info cam from an insider.
I would seriously look at the TM BIKE THESE THINGS ARE SWEET. A LOCAL I KNOW HAS ONE ITS QUICK AND GREAT LOOKS
http://www.ppsmoto.com/models/motocross/
IT blows my mind how guys just can"t wrap their mind around the fact that the two stroke is never coming back! period te only reason they make them are for you die hards to slap your ugly bark busters on there and ride around in the woods someone asked reed what he thought about his old 250 vs his 450 4stroke and he said there wasnt even a comparison so get over it 4 strokes are better its not a conspiracy it is what it is
jeramey, what if having 2 strokes means the whole family can ride? And what about direct injection for 2 strokes? Apparently it will be more efficient and cleaner than the 4 stroke!!!! Marine engines have direct injection on 2 stroke motors....They still make 2 stroke engines for snow mobiles....
Not everyone is CHAD REED with tons of money to burn and a whole team of people behind him to keep him riding....
thats fine but quit talking as if one day the factories are gonna go backwards and start racing them again its not gonna happen or more of them would hav kept them in their lineup i have no problem with them i went from a cr250 to a crf450 and trust me when i say i would never go back dont care how much cheaper it would be people just fear what they dont know four strokes are easy to work on as well
and im not sure why but every two stroke ive ever seen blow they had to replace the cylinder or send it to a machine shop ive rebuilt the top end on both of my 450's and the cylinders were fine all it cost me was the piston and gasket set which you can get for under $250
i see what you mean, , i just want the 2 strokes for me, not for racing,, i don't care what they race!!! YOu must be mechanicaly inclined to be able to work a 4 stroke engine!! NOt for everyone!!!
Could i rebuld a 4 stroke engine with the manual and some U-tube videos??????
And i don't care what Villipoto rides , but hope it's not yamaha!!!
honestly thats what i used you tube and my clymer its really not that bad but i know my honda its a unicam so i only have one cam to worry about were the yamahas have dual but think there is this stigma out there that 4 strokes are insanely expensive to fix but the fact is there isnt anything cheap about motocross
Canadianmxfan i agee 100%, Jeramey dont confuse an AMA rule for four stroke superiority. Think about this, 2013 KTM 250SX two stroke..50 hp, 216 lbs, can be re-built for lunch money, your avrage 250 four stroke 35 hp 234 lbs, how much to re-build? What would a modern day 450 two stroke weigh and how much power would it have, who knows, but it would blow a 450f of the map. Motocross needs two strokes more than ever, it used to be easy to race and buy a new bike year
@CZRider, I agrree Hodaka would be a great choice!!! Another good choice would be to ride the Electric bike from ZERO, heard they worked out all of the suspension problems, now as good as the YZ monoshock that Hannah hated...
I'm not sure what this has to do Ryans ride for next year, just having some fun, peace
You all are right guys, good points for sure!! thanks for chatting about my rant!!
THe only reason i would like to see Villopoto on a yamaha is because ,,, if he does bad then we know FOR SURE the bike SUCKS!@!!
my friend is friends with rv and he says He's going to team hurricane but no one is supposed to know. Rick Melon is going to Maico, Judy McCormick is going to KTM and Rick Ross is going to TWO TWO. and Rick Romney is riding for Bultaco
no way will any of the top 5 touch the yamaha atleast until 2014 when they supposedly have a whole new bie coming out you know things are bad over there if davi milsaps is leaving but the way they fed him the scraps last years from stewart I certainly dont blame him
With confirmation of Canard to Honda today. That pretty much says it all right there. Honda has pulled out of the bidding war for Poto, on whateva team they were wanting to support.
EDIT: new bike
could be, but not sure the money was gonna come from factory honda as its reeds team that was trying to get him so reed as his sponsors have to come up with the money honda just supplies the bikes
In Australia, they race the 250 2stroke against 250f's. In the nationals this week, a rider got a 2nd place in one of the moto's. I think it is pretty impressive. We also have a development class where alot of the riders are on these 250 2 strokes. Townley commented along the lines of these guys working in the wrong direction for their futures.
I heard he signed a 4 year deal with Rocketa out of China. My 3rd cousins best friends sister told me so.
as a honda guy i would love to see RV on a honda but even i voted kawi I just dont see him leaving unless they absolutely lowball the shit out of him but they would be slitting their throats by letting him go because weimers not gonna carry that team they let stewart go but they had RV not the same case hear, and also i just dont see reed being able to afford him he lost bel ray which was his biggest sponsor ...............but regardless from what i hear monster is the hold up and im sure they will go ahead and sponsor him exclusivly like red bull does with stewart , im sure RV would rather not be racing his boss every weekend lol
I think RV could make a Suzuki win some titles, I mean MA800 won a moto an a stock one. LOL
who the hell is reed to determine if 4strokes are better, a 2 stroke would of done a lot less damage the last time he took a dirt sample damn, leg, knee, back. no one ever thougt 2 strokes would dominate back in the day when 4 strokes were popular look how many years it took to bring those broken down piece of crap bikes back. GNCC still use 2 strokes, freestyle still use 2 strokes your 50s, 65s, 85s, and then most kids would go to 125 at least my son will, its no longer a sport were a kid can pick up a cheap bike go race and be competative, its turning into a richmans sport, i started in 1979 i have 2 boys that race know and in the last 5 yrs i can see a huge decline in riders and attendance, i could remember when they had to split classes up last tuesday night pratice my sons 50cc class had 5 kids, and my son and one other were the only 2 the did the last practice, 4 strokes are no better, no faster, just more expensive and harder to work on, when the last time you spent 1000.00 for a pipe from pro circuit for a 2 stroke, of course there going to hype 4 strokes look at the money there making for those who can afford it.
I have both a 4 stroke and a 2 stroke and love them both.. but all you guys calling 2st lovers dinosaurs gotta give your head a shake. The 4 stroke is only faster because of the rules.
Lets KTM or Yamaha make a 450 two stroke and see whats faster? It would definitely be lighter, less moving parts, easier to turn and handle and far less expensive to maintain! You tell me which is better?
the only reason 4 strokes are better is cause its a 450 4 stroke vs a 250 2 stroke. a 250 2 stoke will smoke a 250 4 stroke. and word from Yamaha is, why we havnt seen a 150 4 stroke is cause they are working on a 85cc 2 stroke fuel and oil injected with outboard technology, they say it will revolutionize 2 stroke technology and comply with all the Californian EPA laws (which is the only reason 2 strokes were fazed out) and be the way of the future.
Guys, it WAS NOT REED that said four strokes are better than two strokes, it was Stewart. Stewart rode a Yamaha 250 two-stroke on video (you can search for it). At the end he complained about arm pump (not in shape?) and said if someone gets passed by a two stroke they should quit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWQQoPemqPU
I really don't think it's fair to compare 20 minutes of riding a two stroke to 5 years of riding a four stroke either. You have to ride different lines, have different throttle control, etc.
And Jeramy, you got lucky rebuilding your four stroke... I've got stung by $2500 rebuilds twice.
since this turned into a 4 stoke discussion I will weigh in. I think yamaha got it right with their yzf400 in 97- still an overall much better powerband than a 250 2 stroke but closer in speed to the 250, the 450 is clearly faster.
they should have had a 200 4stroke for the 125 class, not 250 and they would all be closer in overall power and speed.
One thing is very clear the four strokes would still be the weapon of choice for most. But the 125 and 250 2strokes could still compete if a racer would rather use them.
PS if CR got RV on his team there would be no real competitionbetween them, RV would be consistantly faster and that would only be good for both of them
I say put him on a Briggs & Stratton or maybe a Greeves. This should help even the playing field some.
RV is going to Team Tote Goat.
Two Strokes are awesome but so are 4 strokes. I have a 2007 YZ250 that is awesome in the woods and since most tracks these days are built for 4 strokes, the smokers really are not as competitive on a track anymore.
I love my 4 strokes (we have 4 or them) but I also love the 2 strokes (we have 3 of them) but each for different reasons.
good point davidl maybe the 4stroke would be the weapon of choice, but the word would be choice, make the displacement rule so that a 2stroke would still be competitive, the whole point is to keep motocross what we love alive, with gas prices, unemployment, familys walking away from there homes its going to get to were theres more people watching than racing, exp. nascar.
I used to flip burgers, and raced a tricked out two stroke. Now I'm a brain surgeon, and I cant even afford to race a four stroke. It really $uckk$ too.
250 2-stroke vs 250 4-stroke,I'll take the the pre-mixer all day long
and comply with all the Californian EPA laws (which is the only reason 2 strokes were fazed out) Not True!!!!! If so then why are Yamaha & KTM selling 2-stroke bikes (along with Honda, Suzuki, & Kawasaki....65's & 85's) in CA?? Plus, the 2-strokes we all know & love are EPA Exempt (aka Closed Course Only). California had nothing to do with it. Btw, the EPA in a Government agency, not a Calif agency. The AMA is to blame by allowing the 4-strokes to have such an unfair displacement advantage over 2-strokes, plain & simple.
i might be wrong when i say "Californian EPA laws" but it is to do with the emissions. but anyway that comes from someone high up in Yamaha in Australia. and its not the AMAs fault, its like that all over the world although its changing here in AUS, lites class is anything under 250 2 or 4 stroke, and opens is anything above 250. the 2 strokes are killing it here,even the 150 ktms.
JS7 n RV team Suzuki 2013! That would be ugly!!
Quentin_aus...you are right to a degree...the colaborative efforts between the FIM and AMA spelled doom for the two stroke (also throw in a liberal mixing of lobbyists from the manufacturers.)
BUT BELIEVE ME WHEN I TELL YOU the AMA has done far more harm than good when it comes to racing here in the US...how could they not? An organization of mostly non-racers dictating how races should be run?
Yes and the EPA rulings were a scapegoat for the AMA and FIM to change the then current rules allowing the four stroke to gain footing
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And jeramey...if you consider a piston and gasket a rebuild on a four stroke you are an endo and a broken neck away from reality my friend.
Brilliant.
Starplaya4life
The ugly part would be Suzuki running out of parts because of JS crashing all the time. Have a little fun guys, not a JS hater.
I'm not a Yamaha fan or JS hater but RV on a Yamaha would be sweet!
If Reed ever signed RV it would mean Reed isn't racing. There is no way he would be out there and not be the top guy on his team. He talked about 2012 being his last year but after getting injured he reconcsidered going out like that. Since RV will be back on a Kawasaki though, it is a moot point. We might find out that Mitch takes over the whole Kawasaki 450 program. Then Monster has one team to sponsor, Kawasaki still has a "factory" 450 team out there, and Mitch just picks up where he is now with a 450 out there already. Or maybe Kawasaki fields a 450 team one more year with the Monster deal, and then Pro Ciruit takes it over in 2014. I think it is inevitable that there is no more Kawasaki factory team and it becomes Payton's at some point ala Yamaha and Suzuki.
Am I missing something? Can someone tell me where it is written that the EPA favors 4-strokes over 2-strokes when we're talking closed course motorcycles? These motorcycles are EXEMPT from any EPA standards. Anyone??
CA has the toughest emission restrictions and that is why some models of bikes are labelled "California Green Sticker Legal". Not saying that CA isn't a messed up place cuz it is!!! For the longest time many manufacturers were building 2 models of bikes: one for the California eco nazis, and one for the rest of us.
I live in So Cal & I understand the Red/Green sticker thing but again the EPA has never affected closed coarse bikes. The factories have NEVER built one model of motocross bikes for Ca & a different one for the other 49 states. You are talking about the enduro models, XR's WR's, CRFX's, DR's, KLX's etc. Again, these models HAVE to comply with the EPA standards unlike their motocross cousins. The EPA has affected these models completely but they have never affected closed course models (motocross bikes). In Ca if your bike is Red Stickered it is considered closed course & EPA exempt and Green stickered bikes are in compliance with EPA standards & come with lean jetting, spark arrestors & in some cases (Yamaha WR's) throttle stops.But, California does consider ALL off-road bikes built 2002 & older as Green Sticker legal. But again, the EPA does not affect motocross at all, never has. Btw...you're right, Ca is a screwed up place!