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Dungey is the favorite for the MXoN MX1 ride. Who would you pick for the MX3 ride?

Monday, July 16, 2012 | 12:40 PM

Ryan Dungey is the favorite for the MXoN MX1 ride. Who would you pick, right now, for the MX3 ride?

James Stewart 2366 votes - 24.3%

Ryan Villopoto 1417 votes - 14.6%

Mike Alessi 2387 votes - 24.5%

Justin Barcia 2619 votes - 26.9%

Justin Brayton 109 votes - 1.1%

Jake Weimer 699 votes - 7.2%

Andrew Short 140 votes - 1.4%

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BillC wrote: 12:54pm July 16, 2012

Barcia if JS is not back to full speed. RV if he is back but thats a long shot.he will only be back on the bike for a month...Could be enough time but don't think he will get picked.

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SeventiesRacer wrote: 1:00pm July 16, 2012

RV cannot be considered, period. He will be coming off a serious knee injury and should focus his recovery for 2013.

JS, maybe, but lets see his comeback at Southwick. He is a question mark with his wrist(?) and isn't my favorite.

Alessi......hmmmm, this is tough, but I think not with the MotoConcepts ride.

That leaves BamBam. He is probably the best selection as he has already shown that he can race a 450 very fast, and he has tamed his wild riding from last year. Again, Southwick will be the telling race because Lommel will be a serious challenge to Team USA.

My choice is Dungey (MX1) Blazin'Blake (MX2) BamBam (MX3). These riders (as of now) will provide Team USA the best chance of a win at a very difficult track.

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9lives-Mr-Mx wrote: 1:02pm July 16, 2012

It a shame that Windham is not out there my vote would be for him.I dont know if he is still nursing or what maybe just in preservation mode to get to the SX

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two250 wrote: 1:10pm July 16, 2012

Sand track.... Barcia for sure! Remember he won a moto a Southwick on the 450. I feel like James is too risky. He may win his first moto by a long shot, but crash his brains out in the second one...

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sef154 wrote: 1:11pm July 16, 2012

This choice has a lot of ifs and buts right now...

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PartyBoy wrote: 1:25pm July 16, 2012

Barcia is the best choice. He rocks in the sand, he's tamed his riding down, and we all know how well he can ride a 450. Dungey, Barcia, and Baggett. Hands down.

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mainevent71 wrote: 1:25pm July 16, 2012

Sand + Factory Honda + Jeff Stanton Guidance for the MXdN = Barcia in MX3

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SKD937 wrote: 1:32pm July 16, 2012

Stewart should not even be on the list!

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SeventiesRacer wrote: 1:41pm July 16, 2012

Any of you notice that Dungey, Baggett, and Barcia, at the end of a "balls to the wall" sprint, from drop of the gate, to the checkered flag, and they are not even breathing hard?????? This is the stamina and strength it will take to do 35+2 X 2 in the deep sand of Lommel.

I don't think that there are too many Euro teams (all three racers) that have that talent, conditioning and speed to be victorious, HOWEVER, that does not mean that they should be taken lightly either.....

2 more months to go!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Open_Class wrote: 1:42pm July 16, 2012

RV over JS. If RV commits to it, you get 100%. JS stubs a toe and you get the whole "I have to thing about the rest of my life, career, yada yada BS.

If they follow their own rules it will have to be Alessi or Weimer which ever is in second place at the end of the year.

If they choose to break the rules then...If RV is back, says he is ready, then you take him period!



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cgraham46 wrote: 1:42pm July 16, 2012

I say R.J, Ward and either Lechien or the O'Show!!! Don't we wish huh?
Seriously- I totally agree with the prior posts: Dungy, Chupacobra, Bam Bam! We will dominate!
And I'm a Stewart fan- just think he might not be there with the focus and drive like the younger guns.

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VetMXer wrote: 1:51pm July 16, 2012



Dungey hands down team captain Barcia for sure in the MX 3
RV will just not be ready Stewie is looking great and fast this year
If not for the wrist he would have had my vote; Just too iffy and not enought race time
Baggett I love this kid he's a damn freight train! if they had 45 min motos again
nobody would ever beat him. But being he went 2 years ago and kinda gagged the ride; He makes me nervous. And we need some serious heavy hitters on this team if we are going to pull this win off...

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LastBikeRM250 wrote: 2:09pm July 16, 2012

If Stewart finishes out the season well from Southwick onwards, then I say go with him. Otherwise, I would pick Barcia. Like others note, he rode the 450 really well at the end of last year's MX.

As for the MX1/MX2, Dungey and Bagget of course. I would consider Tomac the backup for Baggett if he fades seriously this season, or gets hurt.

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dgizzy1 wrote: 2:11pm July 16, 2012

Stewart is gonna go 1-1 southwick so that he can complain if he is not chosen. Anyways Barcia is good but he has not been riding the 450. JS7 is too risky but it could pay off. Mike Alessi deserves it. He is sitting second in points. I know pple might disagree but look at it this way Tedesco wasnt much better than Alessi and he was chosen. Neither is shorty.So I say Alessi deserves it like him or hate him. He has paid the price to be there.

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Bad_Billy_Robinson wrote: 2:29pm July 16, 2012

I dont think there should be any hesitation in sending BAM BAM on a 450. No, we cant say for sure, but I would like to think that he would probably be in 2nd in points if was racing a 450 this year. Dungey rode MX1 as captain in 2009 right after comming off the 250s, so i think it is a fair choice. there are some really fast guys moving up next year.

If Bubba is 100% then ,yes, send him. But he has to be 100%. I dont want him quitting in the middle looking out for his 2013 year.

I have really started to like MA800 this year after not having a very favorable opinion in the past, however, i think it is smart to send a factory supported rider. Alessi is really trying hard to show consistancy, just dont know about MXDN???

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RacerMX264 wrote: 3:00pm July 16, 2012

@SeventiesRacer

You nailed it - Dungey, Baggett and Bam Bam for the reasons you just stated. If JS was healthy and consistent, he would have been my choice, but the question is making the choice right now, based on current circumstances.

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Alexjaro268 wrote: 3:03pm July 16, 2012

I say Barcia, he rips in the sand, hasn't been yet and has been in it every weekend...

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stewh8ter wrote: 3:15pm July 16, 2012

Why is everyone talking about RV and JS, why wouldn't we take MA or JB. These two guys are proving that they are better than JS this year and RV is out injured and did not race, I remember JS miss out because of an injury and see no reason that RV should be considered. We should select by outdoor finish. If you are injured enough to miss races then sorry about your luck try again next year. Look at what so called "B" teams have done to the Euro's before.

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Green-59 wrote: 3:15pm July 16, 2012

Dungey/Bagget for sure. To be honest it will be a little risky with bam bam on 450, no doubt he can ride though. If stewart comes back strong than stewart or even alessi.

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Knobbywan_Kawnobi wrote: 3:15pm July 16, 2012

Ya know, I think we could give Dungey a nice vacation and send Baggett, Barcia, and Tomac. I think they'd still kick butt!

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endoman38 wrote: 3:15pm July 16, 2012

Who's the people that have been voting for Alessi? Was there a worse looking rider in Millville's sand whoops? And the MXdN track is sand! And I'm still pushing for Zach Osborne in MX2, but that's been falling on deaf ears.

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Green-59 wrote: 3:15pm July 16, 2012

Not saying that i wouldnt want to see bam bam on the 450, just be risky.

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Magical1 wrote: 3:19pm July 16, 2012

Why isn't Bagget a choice on that list?

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9lives-Mr-Mx wrote: 3:33pm July 16, 2012

It would be foulish if Reed did the race......For many reasons...... Yeah I know he's a racer and racers want to race, but you have to use your head also. 2013 comes to mind unless he just throws caution to the wind,and really doesnt care how he retires.. I guess fighting for your country in that respect aint all bad.. Just saying.

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FroLives wrote: 3:44pm July 16, 2012

Whoever gets second...Easy as that.

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Bad_Billy_Robinson wrote: 3:52pm July 16, 2012

I would normally follow the whoever gets second rule, but what if the second place 250 rider is faster more consistant and has more support (factory team) than the second place 450 rider

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fred wrote: 4:10pm July 16, 2012

Hell no to the second 450 guy. Barcia will blow the doors off of whoever that is.The only way Alessi goes is if Baggett or Barcia is hurt.I would send Tomac before Alessi.

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rjstreets wrote: 4:16pm July 16, 2012

Barcia as the MX3 guy then Tomac and Stewart as backups/fill ins. Unless Stewart gives a poor showing at Southwick, then it's between Alessi and Wiemer, in my opinion. Is that why Stewart took off all these weeks to get into shape for Southwick so he can try to qualify for the MXdN ?

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fred wrote: 4:17pm July 16, 2012

Reed is about to start riding again.Maybe he'll be ready and we can let him ride the MX3 for the USA.If he'll do it.

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rdub934 wrote: 4:35pm July 16, 2012

I don't believe their are any published "rules" for selecting team USA. That is just something that gets assumed b/c typically you want the top 2 American 450 guys, and the top 250. However, in this case, I choose Barcia over Alessi, Weimer, or anyone else in the 450 class. No one has proven consistenetly second best in a weakened field. Barcia is a sand guy. Barcia has some 450 experience. And Barcia is faster on his 250 than Alessi and Weimer are on their 450.

99.9% Baggett for the 250s. Unless Tomac catches fire through the rest of the season and looks fantastic. But Tomac just seems too big for a 250. Blake is a really small guy so he has a more favorable power to wieght ratio than Eli. Added bonus for Baggett is that he has been before.

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KTMike wrote: 4:40pm July 16, 2012

I don't mean to change the subject, but I'm was wondering if Decoster is heading up the USA team?, and if so how does that work with Kenny & Marvin?

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carlsbad wrote: 4:55pm July 16, 2012

I am fine with Alessi in the MX3 spot. He's a great starter and in the MXdN field, that is critically important.

Problem being, DeCoster is the team manager and I just don't see them co-existing in this universe anymore.

Without being controversial, I will just say that neither JS nor RV are "officially" eligible because of the racing that they missed to qualify for the spot in the first place.

Trust in "The Man". DeCoster will make the right choices.

By points, the team is: MX1 = Dungey, MX2 = Baggett, MX3 = Alessi.
By my intuition, it's: MX1 = Dungey, MX2 = Baggett, MX3 = Barcia.

We need to be clear on the process for eligibility for the team. Coming off injuries and putting in half seasons doesn't qualify you in my book. Furthermore, if a racer has ever turned down a spot on Team U.S.A. don't EVER think they'll be asked again.

Maybe Racer X could post the documents that define the process and we'll discuss that. That ought to be an interesting comment section.

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SeventiesRacer wrote: 5:00pm July 16, 2012

@KTMike.....yes, RD will head the US assault as usual. As far as KR & MM, it makes no difference whatsoever......they will race for their countries (Germany, France) if they are selected.

@Endoman38.....if ZO338 had not been injured this year, and, proved himself to be a top 3 racer, then I agree he should be considered. But, alas, he has been injured and does not have his speed and stamina when compared to the US racers. maybe next year???

@dgizzy1....really dude????? Your post is fiction. Whats it like in your world????

I wasn't aware that there was an official pecking order for selection to the team? I always thought that it was whoever was the best racers at the time of selection by "the man".....correct me if I am wrong tho.

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carlsbad wrote: 5:02pm July 16, 2012

@ KTMike, Roczen & Musquin will have their own team managers for Teams' Germany & France, respectively. My guess is Rolf Diffenbach for Germany and Jacky Vimond for France.

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carlsbad wrote: 5:07pm July 16, 2012

@ RXO, as SeventiesRacer posted, some people aren't even aware of the Team Choosing process.

Posting the info would be a big help.

Thank you.

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LooseDIRT wrote: 5:08pm July 16, 2012

Alessi already has experience in Europe.
He's riding good and always in the front.
Baggett for sure.

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rulingtheroost wrote: 5:25pm July 16, 2012

Reed is an Aussy can't run the stars in stripes at mxdn. I normally am right when I vote on these things and today I was again,go bam bam!

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atc110 wrote: 5:39pm July 16, 2012

Good news for the JS7 haters is Decoster is one

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KTMike wrote: 5:42pm July 16, 2012

I realize Kenny will ride for team Germany, and Marvin team France. I guess I was wondering more about the bikes/semi/mechanics and Red Bull KTM since Roger ran things for the 3 of them here.

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stewh8ter wrote: 6:04pm July 16, 2012

"The Man" is a hater because he knows that JS is not Champoinship material? I know I am a hater because a couple of posters on here said so. Then again I gues JS is the greatest ever then, ha ha what a joke. JS makes sure he is in the spot light no matter what he has done. We do not want unhappy bubbles on our team for MSDN, pick someone else that has been working hard to get where they are, put JT$ on the team and we will still win.

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oldktmdude wrote: 6:45pm July 16, 2012

Notably absent from the list... sand specialist John Dowd! He could still beat 90% of the guys going to MXofN at age 122 or whatever he is.

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SeventiesRacer wrote: 6:46pm July 16, 2012

@KTMike.....it seems to me (guessing) that the European KTM contigent would supply "works" KTM's for KR and MM. Maybe their U.S. suspension would be transported also, or, the knowledge from their respective mechanics, for the provided suspension from KTM Europe, as their mechanics will invaribly travel to Europe for the MXdN.

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davidl wrote: 7:18pm July 16, 2012

I'm going to say what most of us think, MA has cheated and rode dirty too many time for me to be comfortable to send him to represent us as late as this year (starting crooked when told to straighten up and was fined for it) every time I start to think he is growing up he does it again.
That being said I think Barcia starts as well and is faster and will fade less.
I am for RD, BB, JB for the USA

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stewh8ter wrote: 7:34pm July 16, 2012

WOW! this really shows how narrow sighted fans are, you want JB because he is such an outstanding guy? Well we have had and issues this year and how about Bercey? SImply having the name Bam Bam because of his "aggressive style". I know we can't have a team of Ryan Dungey's as there is only one, but to dis MA saying that JB is a poster child for America. Ha Ha Ha Might as well have JS on the team.

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Claxton wrote: 8:40pm July 16, 2012

RD
BB
JB

Mike could not beat my dad on his Penton in the sand.

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endoman38 wrote: 8:47pm July 16, 2012

Read my lips! Alessi can not ride sand! The MXdN is a sand track this year. And his post-race interviews seem to aimlessly ramble on. And the Europeans will think all Americans are like his dad. Did I mention he can't ride sand?!?!?!?!

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skycooper wrote: 9:38pm July 16, 2012

MX3? Is that the lights? or 250 class? Or the middle supercross/open/450? Or the top heavy, 450 division?

I'm confused!

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uneasy_rider wrote: 9:41pm July 16, 2012

If you were an employer and you had to give an employee a promotion, would you give the guy who has missed work for 2 out of seven days, and did a halfway decent job? Or would you give it to a guy who shows up for work everyday and gives his best effort everytime with no excuses?

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fred wrote: 9:45pm July 16, 2012

Reed has a US citizenship.That means he can ride for the USA.

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9lives-Mr-Mx wrote: 9:55pm July 16, 2012

@ uneasy_rider remember who you are talking to !!!!!!!! LOL

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uneasy_rider wrote: 9:58pm July 16, 2012

I know that I should not even come here and read these comments!

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Please don't hate us. wrote: 11:07pm July 16, 2012

Windham! Haha, why not just say Pastrana. RC has a bike for LL, he would be a better pick than KW.

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motorhead620 wrote: 11:54pm July 16, 2012

As someone else stated above the privledge of being chosen to represent your country in the MXON is something that is earned the hard way.
NOT by sparadic participation off and on over the years when it suits your work portfolio and or public perception.
And not when you've squandered three different factory rides (One with same manufacter twice!) with amatuer mistakes and bad decisions,and now you must ride like you really mean it to save what little chance you have left of getting back on the gravy boat.
As also stated above it's relatively easy to see whom has put forth the effort by their finishes at the end of the day
MX1 Dungey
MX2 Baggett
MX3 Barcia

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Danster wrote: 12:47am July 17, 2012

MX3 Matt Goerke
One of the fastest riders in the sand!

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carlsbad wrote: 1:35am July 17, 2012

@ motodog1977, thank you.

Fact is, when Team U.S.A. needed him, he wouldn't go. Does it matter his reasons? Not to me. Not to the people who believe this little "Motorcycle Olympics" thing to be "kind of important".

He needs the MXdN spot for his own ends (media mileage), not for the team, not for the fans. Problem is, Team U.S.A. no longer has a need for him. Funny how that works.

Before I damn JS to hell completely, let's not forget that GOAT turned down a spot on the team as well. Fans of the sport remember stuff like that.


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Modz wrote: 2:48am July 17, 2012

US needs to win so I am going for Dungey, JS7 and BB. JS7 owned the first 4 motos and would of most likely continuing to do so till the incident with the mid race track crosser.

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ajv26 wrote: 5:12am July 17, 2012

you people have no ideia as Lommel is... IS HELL! you must be smooth, very smooth!
Bam is agressive, but in Lommel I think that is not good!

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MX_MOBSTER wrote: 5:52am July 17, 2012

@ajv26

barcia was aggressive, duno what racing you'v been watchn this year because his style has defintly changed!

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buckeyeracer104 wrote: 7:32am July 17, 2012

@ Modz.. Oh lord here we go again no he wouldn't have and he wasn't owning anyone. Owning is what happened to him at Red Bud when he rode his ass off the first lap and couldn't hang and started screwing up. The track worker didn't cause that wreck if that is all it took to break his concentration he should look for a new sport. BTW I remember watching Budds Creek this year and someone crossed the track in front of him in the section before the finish line didn't seem to effect him. Enough with the excuses from you Stewart homers the dude was getting pushed just like he was when RC was riding and the same thing happend that happend back then he crashed.

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buckeyeracer104 wrote: 7:47am July 17, 2012

I apologize for my Stewart rants, I am just getting really annoyed with the Stewar apologists. I don't even hate the guy and actually think he is a hell of a talent on a motorcycle. I just don't think he is this unbeatable force and it has shown this year. Give it a rest, he was being pushed and made a mistake and crashed like he has been known to do when he is pushed.

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MotoSquirrel wrote: 9:40am July 17, 2012

JB 20 for mx 3 all the way...wait til Southwick...he will erase any doubts on who should be representing the USA in the sand...people think Baggett has this championship wrapped up...far from it...things are get real exciting when the series comes back east...it gonna be good!!!!

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rjstreets wrote: 9:51am July 17, 2012

Quick explaination of MXdN classes for the newer fans.
MX1-450's
MX2-250's
MX3- run what ya brung, 450 or 250, even a two stroke. It's like riding the extra class.

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BillC wrote: 10:51am July 17, 2012

Hmmmmm I would say K-Dub and Saps know a bit more than the keyboard racers.

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uneasy_rider wrote: 11:52am July 17, 2012

Bottom line is, you have to EARN the spot! It cannot be based on what you did a couple of years ago, or what you did for 2 races early in the season, but a collective effort on the racer's behalf. Look at where Stewert has been for the last 2 years. I am not hating on the guy, look at his overall performance rather than a awesome ride, than out for a few races, then a couple mediocre races and out again. A couple of guys on here (and you know who you are, as you will pounce on this shortly) talk about how anti JS7 some people are, but all you guys seem to talk about is how great the guy is and he just isn't producing the results. Not hatred, just realism. How can you call DeCoster bias by not picking a guy who is a ticking time bomb?

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whatever wrote: 12:38pm July 17, 2012

This shit cracks me up!! One guy bags on JS and says he shouldn't go because he hasn't "earned" it this year, and yet some people (CARLSBAD) are still bagging on him for NOT going the year he DIDN'T EVEN CONTEST the outdoors!!! That was as much decision from "THE MAN" as it was any Stewart decision!! Roger will make the right choice when the time comes, period!!! Hey "buckeyeracer104", some of us are equally as tired of negative JS posting like yours as well buddy!!! It goes both ways!! Also, for you to say that James went down because he was being "pushed" is just plain wrong dude!! He had started behind Dungey and PASSED Dungey and had put a couple seconds on Dungey when he went down!! Truth is had the wrist not been injured and he was able to remount and finish we would have a whole different series going on!! I say if he comes back and rides well the remainder of the year, he goes.....Barcia would not be a bad choice at all either. I just can't get on board with MA going for some reason, and i still like the kid, just don't think it would go well!! Time will tell!!

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buckeyeracer104 wrote: 2:01pm July 17, 2012

@whatever First of all, not negative towards JS7 realistic. Tell me when did he beat RC for the outdoor championship? Also since I see a lot of people mention the 24-0 who was he racing against? The same people that tout the 24-0 are the same people bagging Dungey for winning it in 2010 and on his way this year. As I said I respect his abilities but the excuses are getting old.

Yes he did pass Dungey but that was his typical first lap sprint to get out in front. If you haven't been watching and apparently didn't watch the other races he did the same thing the first 2 rounds made quick passes and got out front. When he used to do that he would be all by himself this year though, he had someone breathing down his neck and even at Freestone small mistakes were starting to show. Maybe he had a couple seconds on Dungey at that point but that was just because RD had just then moved to second and JS had looked back as he was doing. Sorry maybe if Stewart didn't have a past history of doing this I might buy that RD wasn't in is head but go back and watch outdoors vs RC there would be times he would pass him only to plant himelf a couple turns later. He rides over his head and sometimes can do that and get way out in front but when he cant gap the guy behind him he makes mistakes. Same at Red Bud Dungey got out to the lead and when his pace was seriously pushing JS7 then he made mistakes. Notice he didn't push RD into mistakes. I have watched him for a long time and it's always been the same thing, this wasn't the first year we have heard we are seeing a more mature JS7.

Again I am not hating on the guy but he is the "overdog" every year and as soon as people criticize him people like yourself come out and get all huffy over it. It's just funny how these injuries seem to flare up as soon as he gets spanked. Happened in supercross this year and happened @ Red Bud. And maybe if people would give the guys that are beating him some credit other than making excuses for him there would be less negativity about him.

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thetoothperry116 wrote: 2:10pm July 17, 2012

People who think Stewart hasnt done anything for the sport are retarded. Seriously? He gets publicity for the dumbest reasons. Yet he puts himself out there and organizes to interract with fans at events. He is a great candidate if he can get healthy. RD pressured him the first two races and there was no mistakes. IT had NOTHING to do with Dungey being in his head. Its sad to see "fans" talk crap when he doesnt win. Just because they KNOW he should be winning. Haha i respect anyone whos a pro. Im not there. But to constantly find reasons to talk crap about someone is just stupid. MxoN spot should not go to Alessi, he spends too much time looking whos going to pass him next and not looking ahead. Barcia over Alessi.

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uneasy_rider wrote: 2:15pm July 17, 2012

@ Preston

I feel that it should be an honor tp represent our country at the MXoN and not just about winning (although that is a major reason). Plain and simple, I don't think JS has earned the right. My opinion. I know the emphatic JS7 fans will say he should, but he has not been a proven entity the last couple of years. That is a fact, not opinion. Look at his results for the entire season (not just a couple of select races). Not hating on him. Just stating my opinion.

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buckeyeracer104 wrote: 2:27pm July 17, 2012

@thetoothperry116 No mistakes really? He didn't fall if that's what you mean but the mistakes were starting to show at Texas, not huge ones just small ones. Those are signs that you're starting to think about what is behind you and not what is ahead of you.

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BillC wrote: 3:01pm July 17, 2012

buckeyeracer104 I saw RD maske a mistake last weekend!!!! Does that mean he was thinking about Alessi 40 sec behind him?? Was Alessi "in his head" ??

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buckeyeracer104 wrote: 3:13pm July 17, 2012

Bill C I get your point but RD doesn't have a history of it. Do I need to flash you back to all the times JS7 has? Do people really just think about things that literally?

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buckeyeracer104 wrote: 3:19pm July 17, 2012

It is funny how touchy some people are on this subject. Again JS7 is fast no doubt about it he does things on a bike I could only dream of but when the competition is tougher he is prone to mistakes. Everyone makes mistakes, Dungey has, RC certainly did, RV has, CR has but the one thing I haven't seen out of any of them consistantly is this on again off again thing. Where their injury is all healed and talk about how they are ready to go then go race lose and out the week after. Why don't any of you think of that? Dungey hurt his shoulder in supercross. The race he came back he fell and I think maybe finished 5th or something. He had no chance at winning the championship and only a slim chance of making it to second in the points but he still came back and didn't make all these lame excuses. We didn't even hear about it how do none of you look at those things and think it's not fishy?

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Maico25 wrote: 3:27pm July 17, 2012

I have a question. May be dumb question for someone that raced and followed it for 40 years but here goes. Someone please answer.
What is the difference, if any, between the bikes and, or rules between MX1 and MX3?

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rjstreets wrote: 3:32pm July 17, 2012

The MX1 class is 450 only and the MX3 class you can ride a 450 or 250 or even a two stroke.

Time to settle the argument once and for all. The three fastest average lap times at Southwick by American riders is our MXdN team. Ok ? Let's go with that until Southwick and when they pick the team.

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squid292 wrote: 6:43pm July 17, 2012

lol. I hit Alessi by accident. I say bam bam on a 450. He smoked alessi when he rode last year and his times are faster on a 250 week in an out than alessi on a 450.If dungee beats him by 30 every week think about how many sand specialist euro's can be in between him and Dungee.Add his speed in the sand and its a no brainer. I think people seeing alessi getting 2nd every week are blinded by results and not the fact that the 450 field is week. if canard reed js7 and rv were there he'd be fighting for 6th. Just look at the lap times and consider on fast tracks bam bam is 200cc's less! JS7 can ride as fast as anyone but in a pressure situation he goes down a notch.The MXD is the most stressful race of the year. Seen him fold like an envelope when he's on top of his game. Not the right race for him.

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whatever wrote: 7:28pm July 17, 2012

Hey "buckeyeracer104"...you get a big WHATEVER dude!! First, why in the hell would you bring up RC here?? What in the hell does he have to do with any of it?? As long as you did, and you mention JS not beating "anyone" for his 24-0, i will ask you who RC beat for his?? He didn't have any equal caliber rider out there against him either fella! Fact remains that going 24-0 is amazing in it's own right. Period!! (RC twice)!! Your next stupid comment was this one "it's funny how these injuries seem to flare up as soon as he gets spanked"........REALLY?? let's see, two races in and he was perfect so far, he had passed RD and was LEADING when he went down and suffered the injury, so how can you say the injury flared up AFTER he got "spanked"?? Completely invalid statement!! I don't care if people don't like him or not, just respond when nonsense is spoken!! I love me some RD too, and we were getting set for some seriously good racing between those two but injuries can put a damper on those things!! You are entitled to your opinion as far as RD being in JS head....but i'm saying in no way was RD in his head!! James rode for 3 of the first motos with RD ON HIS ASS and held him off, and it was evident that RD was extremely frustrated after those races, James looked cool, and not at all tired. RD was not in his head at all when the gate dropped at Thunder Valley....James just made a mistake and unfortunately was injured in the process, Dungey had nothing to do with what happened there!! We don't know if the injury lingers or not, only JS does, but i will give you one thing, that i do wonder at times if James lost a little of his drive when the moment came that he would not have a chance any longer at winning the title!! I do wonder about that, but still give him the benefit of the doubt that he is just not 100% yet!!

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bd200 wrote: 7:38pm July 17, 2012

If I have to pick right now, its Barcia, easy choice if I have to pick NOW!! Stewie is hurt or out of shape or something.. RV1 is hurt, cant pick him if he is going to only be on the bike a month, not enough time. Barcia kills in the sand, so does Stewie but he isnt healthy and he hasnt really commited to outdoors since 2008, including this year, he misses too much time to depend on him.

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Please don't hate us. wrote: 10:16pm July 17, 2012

Bill C - Why does Windham or Sapps know more on this matter? Maybe they are just being PC about JS. Maybe someone like Jeff Ward who has a lot of heart would say something completely different.

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buckeyeracer104 wrote: 7:58am July 18, 2012

whatever, you are totally missing my point, I am not saying he was out there worried because Dungey was breathing down his neck he was in his head by the prior 2 races he wasn't able to just walk away like he used to when he would get the early lead (i.e 2008 championship). There is why I bring up RC, the last person he wasn't able to just leave when he would blitz out in front early on. Look back at the Mt. Morris race when he was racing RC, he passed him only to just plant himself in the step down a short time later. My point is when someone is able to run his pace he tries to push himself to hard to get away, he tries to demoralize them but with riders like RC and Dungey (dont forget RV and CR too) it doesn't work that way.

It's a ltitle funny that you bring up RC's competition when the person who finished second to Stewart in 2008 (Tim Ferry) finished 4th in 2003 and then 10th in 2004 both of RC's perfect seasons. RC had Windham (when he was riding pretty damn good and Reed following him in 2nd and 3rd respectivley.

How is my injury comment stupid? Because you misunderstood what I was saying apparently? He got spanked at Red Bud SPANKED. He was saying the whole week before that he was ready to ride the wrist was feeling great and all that. Then couldn't hold pace the first moto and pushed himself to make mistakes (luckily not huge ones and just resulted in tipping over). He gets interviewed and said he needs to grow a sack but never mentioned his wrist bothering him? You don't find that odd? Because I do.

I don't know where you think RD was frustrated because he said the same things after the first races that he has all the races he has won. RD doesn't get frustrated, not about getting beat anyways. I know that's what you want to believe but it's just not true. See the thing is JS7, as I said before, has a past history of making mistakes when he has someone there who is able to keep pace. That is why RC was brought up as I said before.

Look I know that JS7 could come out at Southwick and win. I am an RD fan but it won't make me mad at all because I love watching the racing. I also know that RD will only go and work harder to find ways to win. RD isn't exactly a slouch at Southwick either, he won the first moto ad despite starting 3/4 a lap down placed 7th for a 3rd overall last year (made me even bigger fan of him). It should be a good race to watch and I am ready for it. We're probably not going to agree on this so we should probably just agree to disagree on it.

On the subject I am not against picking JS7 for the Des Nations. We need a 3rd guy with speed and he undoubtedly has it and I want to keep the streak going especially on their turf!

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uneasy_rider wrote: 9:49am July 18, 2012

@Preston

I have a tremendous amount of respect for K-dub and do value his opinion, but in the big picture, who has more experience and knowledge of a riders ability than DeCoster? Every team he goes to, he picks good riders and turns it into a force to be reckoned with. And no, he has not earned my respect.......yet. He has shown some maturity on a few occasions this year, but has a ways to go. He has a sense of entitlement that is unfounded and alot of his fans feel the same way. Convince me that he has earned the spot on his performance the last year, hell, last couple of years and I will acknowledge it, but not even close right now.

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davidl wrote: 10:42am July 18, 2012

MXA has the coolest article on their midweek report with Roger Decoster. He is thinking excatly like me with RD and BB, and ET or JB for the team at this point and clearly isnt considering MA.

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Please don't hate us. wrote: 10:56am July 18, 2012

MXDN's is different than any other race. Windham used to turn it down because he didn't want to fly over there. Expierence at them goes a long ways. Maybe RV will be ready for it?

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LastBikeRM250 wrote: 8:45pm July 18, 2012

The MXA interview with DeCoster is good. He leaves the door open for JS (and even RV!). I think JS would have to prove he is recovered from the injury by either beating Dungey, or at least hanging on to his rear wheel. But it is clear he is leaning toward Barcia in addition to Dungey and Baggett. Makes sense at this point.

As much as I respect what MA is doing this MX season, I don't think he should buy any plane tix yet.

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whatever wrote: 1:10am July 19, 2012

Whatever dude!! Your long winded reply does nothing to change my mind, or in my opinion, prove you right!! You think what you think!! Yours is just an opinion like mine is and i totally disagree with you!! I swear to god some of you dudes must beat off while you say things like he got SPANKED...whatever gets you there i guess!!

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call-it wrote: 1:17am July 19, 2012

Say what you want, but i think Roger "THE MAN" does not like Stewart, never has......its bullshit!! When asked who he thought might give Dungey a run for his money he says, Villopoto was the only guy he thought would challenge him....um, what about the guy he beat him 4 straight motos "THE MAN"?? Stewart could come back and win a few races and Decoster is still not going to put him on the team......he's always been an ass about Stewart!! Lets see how well your golden boy does when RV and Reed and Trey Canard get back!!

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SeventiesRacer wrote: 2:08am July 19, 2012

@call-it...."The Man" did not mention JS being comp for RD because he knows of the lawndart moniker, plain and simple. That in of itself is reason not to choose JS for the MXdN this year. JS is at the twilight of his racing career because of the type, and amount, of crashes he has had. I wouldn't be surprised if he has some concussion damage later in life as has happened to many NFL players and the such.

Not a JS hater at all, but am realistic about his past abilities verses his current abilities / inabilities.

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buckeyeracer104 wrote: 6:59am July 19, 2012

Whatever, LOL. I don't get off on him getting spanked I am just saying what happend and you can't even deny it. You also couldn't refute the fact that he said his wrist was fine leading up to Red Bud. You also must have missed where I said we will just have to agree to disagree because our minds are already made up.

You must have also missed where I said JS7 is a hell of a talent and fast as hell on a bike. I have all the respect for his ability but his talent / style may be fun to watch, it may be good for putting down record lap times and stringing together a few moto wins. It's just not good for winning championships when someone is able to hold pace with him. Whine and cry about that statement all you want but tell me I am wrong otherwise and do that by showing me where he has done so.

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boshi190 wrote: 8:55pm August 5, 2012

rd,brapppoholic,and tomac!

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