This sucks!! with JS out it made it a bore!! Even RD looked like "OH crap here we go again everyone will say I only won cuz the other fast guys are out"

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Got to stay in it to win it as they say. Everyone's been hurt this
year, so if RD stays healthy he deserves it. Sure can't say Bubba
ran away with any wins in the outdoor's......

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Doesnt matter who the "fast guys" are. If they cant stay healthy the whole season and Dungey wins the title. HE BEAT THEM!

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He wasn't on the injury report, did I miss something, what happened to Davalos?

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If every moto went down to the wire and say stewart won by 2 inchs every time YET he STILL WON, sorry suckers............lol lo lo lol No one remembers 2nd place.........

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@unforgiven: suckers? the only thing that went down was JS7. your if/then statement is just rhetoric.

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Hey, all I got to say is that Dungey has won 2 races and Stewart has won 4, yet Dungey has the points lead. Fact, he is beating Stewart! If this, and If that doesnt win a championship. You have to be there every race. Dungey finished both races this weekend and Stewart didn't, HE GOT BEAT BY DUNGEY! You don't get more straight up than that, they were both on the same starting line right? Quit making excuses!

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The 450 class needs an infusion of speed other then Dungey and Stewart they look like local pros trying to keep from being lapped. The only time some of them race is the first two laps or when the blue flag is out.

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Yes, if Ryan wins the championship, their will be some who discredit his accomplishment! All Ryan can do is race those 39 guys who line upon the gate. Ryan has shown over and over he has the speed to run with any one and his stamina is unquestioned. He gets the most flack for being patient and calculating, willing to take a 2nd or 3rd rather than risk a fall. Some precieve this as a weakness instead of strength. Yes the racing would be closer if every one was healthy and on the track, but this is motocross and it takes more than just raw speed to win a Championship.
It is the ' if and or buts' that give us fans something to bench race about on here. So to all those on the injured list, get well soon! To those battleing out on the track we appreciate all the hard work you put int to entertain us during the Great Outdoors!

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@ Mr-Mx and @BD25, completely agree. In fact, there are 12 rounds of MX, 17 rounds of SX, and the Monster Cup. That is 30 weekends of racing each year out of 52 weekends. Take out the Holidays and these guys race pretty much all year long.

Dungey has figured out the importance of consistency and staying healthy. Though there are a lot of people that will claim everyone else is out this MX season, same thing was true of Villopoto for the SX Title. I do not see RV giving back that 2012 SX trophy because everyone else was out.

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Old adage: To finish first, first you must finish. Stewart wasn't the only rider to go down in that section. Just the only one who was leading the race.

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Its funny how JS7 doesnt say anything about the incident publicly, but all the non-JS7 fans jump right on the excuse band wagon....If you watch HIS interview, he doesnt doesnt imply that the guy on the track was 100% to blame....he saw the dude, changed his line, cross rutted and went down....If Dungey, RV or Reed had the same situation happen, you know they would mention the doosh on the track....coming over a jump 3rd gear only to see some dude standing in the middle of the track is a distraction to anyone.....not making excuses (as Dungey would say), however I can see how that could lead to a lapse in jundgement..... For the guys who said James didnt crash for 200 ft.....he was actually cross rutted and sliding out the moment he entered that section..almost saved it....hope he isnt hurt...a replay of 2010 will be BORING!!!!

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A link to JS7 page below for his thoughts.... Like I have said before, people will take what they want from what a person, James in this case and make their own opinion...its a 50/50 for me....As a former racer, I can see how this "may" have assisted in James going down,,,,not 100% the cause for sure....He took his eyes off the track and it cost him.....if the dude wasnt on the track, we probably wouldnt have had this occurance....so hope James is good to go....is it the same wrist as before??

.I liked Reeds repsonse " why do they make a 4th gear downhill a mud hole"....


http://js7.com/news/

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No one is argueing the fact tha RD has the points lead and you have to be in it to win it. BUT it leaves a bit of a hollow feeling if you can't win till someone gets hurt.

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Mr-Mx, very impressive attendance record! You have got to see some great battles over the years! To be nosey, how do you get to see so many races? Are you in the industry? Thanks for the race day shout outs and track commentary, appreciate it.

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JonR290 the difference in SX is that RV was WINNING, 4 of the first 7 races, he was beating EVERYONE before anyone got hurt. RD had yet to prove he could beat JS.

.Again don't call me a hater, I am not. But don't tell me RD deep down does not feel it a little. Hell he did not look to happy and neither would I. Would you?? Yes I would be happy to be winning but deep down it would bug the hell out of me. And I am not saying RD would not have won anyway, I said it last week to the guys who said it is all over, I said NO RD will be winning some of these.

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How about this, If RD gets hurt, Weimer gets hurt, Mike gets hurt and so on..How far down the line do you go before ya say..Yes he is winning "BUT"??

.Hell there were guys saying JS was only winning because RV was not there.... Its going to happen

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C'mon the guy was completely off the track before JS7 landed, watch the video! JS7 did not change lines to miss the guy, Give it up!

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In non-JS7 news:

Davalos had a practice crash late in the week and did not start at Thunder Valley. Source: RacerX Twitter feed.

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BillC, I always enjoy your posts and I understand what you are saying. I doubt though Ryan has a hollow feeling. I am sure he feels he can beat anyone on any given day! Racing JS this year and Villopoto last season, he has shown he has the speed. As you know,when two riders are equal in speed it takes a mistake to pass. Where Villopoto or Stewart will try and force the issue, Dungey is patient and will wait, not as exciting, but it works for him..
Ryans live to fight another day attitude is not as fan friendly to some. As I stated above, some see it as a weakness.To me, that is what I like about him. In life you dont win every day, some days are struggles or things out of you control sneek up and bite you. To accept that, get up and give the next day 100% effort is a very comendable trait in my eyes.
That is the great thing about being a fan, we can pick a rider who exemplifies the traits that impress us and cheer for his success!

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@BillC, I seem to recall you bashing on Dungey for his 2010 SX Title because RV went out in St. Louis. Dungey had the lead and never relinquished the lead all 2010 season but you diminished Dungey’s Title that year. Yet, you flip-flop on your argument when defending RV’s 2012 Title.

You are a Dungey basher and always have been. Your arguments always conflict when you are supporting RV and then the position switches when you go and bash RD. I think every guy that wins a Title deserves it. If someone is hurt and can’t race you can’t expect a guy to just quit and go home. The guy holding the Title is not responsible for the other riders and their inability to race due to injury. When you diminish the guy holding the Title, regardless of who was there, it just sounds stupid.

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Ryan Dungey's (supposed) weakness becomes his strength as he motors by the #7, #1, #41 & #22 yard sales.......go figure.

By the way, there will be no asterisk on the bonus check a certain 450 racer will be cashing........or the trophy girls he's kissing.

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Looks like Carioli won the battle of France to return the favor of C.P. winning on his home-turf. Could this be the re-emergence of C. Pourcel? 39 points is not insourmountable at this stage of the G.P. season......

It's going to take a concerted effort from the competition to keep KTM from sweeping the entire MX WORLD this season.......that would be quite an accomplishment.

Trivia question: Has this accomplishment (entire sweep of the G.P. & AMA C'ships) ever been achievied? When?

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I think credit has to be directed towards Aldon Baker for his role in B.B.'s conditioning. That kid has come from (some) mediocre starts to put himself in great position at race's end. The lap times show he's not going any faster, just AS fast for longer...........whatever he's making these guys do, it's working.

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Mr-Mx
Very interesting, I have heard of the DeBartolo family, I believe they built Remington Park here in Oklahoma. Also was a Cowboy fan in the late 80's when the 49ers won a couple titles. Thanks for the info, you have done alot of the things I always wanted to do. Having a famous name can be a good thing or a hassle, as I am a Disney, with a brother named Walt.. no nort that one...we are the poor side of the family...lol

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Dusty Klatt on a LEM??? Is that a typo or am I way out of the Canadian MX loop.

Dungey's style and game plan is paying out bigtime. As for the *, thats a never ending game of speculation. If Windham didn't break his leg in 01 he would have destroyed RC and so on and so on...

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Yes I have been down there its about 70 miles away. Robert just revalved my suspension. I was a Kawa dealer in 94 and Robbie and Robert came up and did a days testing here at my house. Was amazing, Robbie would make a few laps, come in get drink and Robert would have the cyl changed out, must have tried 6-7 cyl and few differant pistons....at the end of the day it started to rain, thats when Robbie put in his best times...Cooper and Palmer used to come up to ride some also when they were buds.

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Mr-Mx
Walt was born the year Disneyland opened, so my dad named him after the Walt....story goes he sent Walt a birth annoucement and Mr Disney sent him $10 and a thank you note for naming his son after him...Growing up my brother made the best of his name, it actually opened a few doors for him. .Best part was ...No one ever forgot his name! My oldest brothers name was Donald, and we had a Mickey in the family...All true so help me Joel Robert

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Yes, I had read it. Great times and very good memories! Wish I could have been there for that. I really liked Brain, thought he was going to take over the 125 class until he got sick, shame as he was so smooth. I dont remember what was wrong with him, something that took his endurance I think. I was rideing a 78 RM250C2 then in 79 bought the RM 400. Had to cut the pipe open and cut 5mm out of the back pressure washer to make it run stronger then added a Tera Flex rear tire to get traction, great bike! Thanks for sharing, maybe some day we can sit down, have a cold one and reminess! Oh yeah my claim to fame in RacerX, besides my posts, lol, is my pic of Stanton and Cooper in the top right hand corner of the Cigerettes Blue Jeans and Big Hair story.

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@BD & MrMX, Interesting stuff today, guys. I have no trouble believing the deer stories, Mr MX, as I have an apple tree in my yard and they come and eat the apples and I can stand on my deck and talk to them, as they are only 20 feet or so away. They seem to know I'm O K. Feed them ear corn in the winter. They can be domesticated. A friend of mine had a practice track over near Rochester, MN. A lot of the pro's would come over and ride there. And that is soooo cool. I had Eric Kehoe come up to me and introduce himself, and ask how to get to the track from the yard. "Hi, I'm Eric Kehoe." I'm like "Yeah, I know who you are." Anyways shout out to you two today for the interesting topics. @BillC-I don't recall you bashing RD. You call it like you see it. I, called you out for bashing RD way back, and you explained yourself and since then I don't see it. You are a RV and JS fan first, and there is nothing wrong with that. Sometimes people post but don't really follow what they are posting. Perhaps people need to know more about many posts verses commenting on a single comment. IDK whatever, I guess.

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Mr-Mx and Bucky...We are very lucky to live where deer, turkey and other wild animals roam freely. I sit and listen to them almost every evening. The sound of the coyotes yapping piercing the thru the silence of dusk is so much more relaxing than the car horns and traffic that city dwellers must listen to. Plus we have mx tracks in out back yards, we are truely blessed!

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Mr-Mx..yes there are trade offs where ever you live, as I have a 20 mile drive one way to buy groceries and can not have a pizza delivered. I feel your on pain on the heat, last year we had 23 days over 100 to go along with a draught that caused the pond dry up and with a warm winter it did nothing to kill off the ticks chiggers and misquitoes... Well off to work, every one try and have a great day, where ever you live ...moto on

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JonR290... 2010 is a dif thing again, RV was NOT a champ or expected to win that year, JS and CR were the "big dogs" that year and BOTH were gone by round #2 so not the same. I stand by the fact that RD won it that year but the big names were out...His afult...NO..But it is what it is. You call me a RD hater but i am NOT. If RV could not pass guys I would say the other guy is better. Just like now JS was Better then RD, not by a lot but he was better and now he is out. If RD was beating him before he went out dif story but RD had yet do beat him. Not a bash on RD just the way i look at it. sorry if you don't like it.

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Just read what you said Bucky, Thanks!!

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BillC We all look at things differantly, to me it was to early to say who was better. I think JS and RD are evenly matched. If you fall on the first lap you get passed by alot of people and make your job harder, JS will take that chance RD wont, JS wants to get away quick, RD wants to be patient. The show they put on in Texas was great!! 32 laps timed, RD was faster 16 of them JS the other 16. James got a little gap each moto by passing quickly, only to have Ryan close up each time. Even. JS did win because he did not falter under pressure that day. Between the two of them it will be the one who makes the least mistakes. Both great riders, I think JS or RV make RD better! Next year should be epic in the Great Outdoors

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Yes BD25, But how can't you give the edge to JS?? Even a little?? He did the job so have to say he was better right? They can't be even when JS wins 4 and RD 0.

.But thanks for not bashing and just talking about it!!

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BillC After the first two races, the edge does go to James. Props to James, glad to see him show so many his speed is still there..I never doubted that.. I doubted his stamina because of his showing in Unidilla..He had the fastest QT yet fell back during the race...James has an amazing talent when it comes to riding a dirt bike! Glad he seems to have matured, just like RC and Reedy, he now is seeing the bigger picture, its about the sport not themselves. James also brings credance to what I say about the CC's ,Comfort and Confidence. To go the speed they do, those two things are a must, as its the mental game that seperates the good from the greats. Now for the bashing, it is a shame that some on here can not debate with out hate, the only way to learn is to listen and some on here dont want to do that...I appreciate your input on these forums, I may disagree with you at times, but thats OK we are just giving our opinions and every one is entitled to theres. I just learned not reply to the bashers, it just seems to fuel them, I just laugh and go on. A closed mind cannot be enlightened no matter how much light you shed on a subject...with that ...lets moto on!

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MOTO RESULTS MX 1 & MX2 ;why is it that only the overall is shown

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