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The Moment: Hangtown
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After James Stewart led every lap of moto one at Hangtown, fans were hoping to see a better battle in the second 450 moto. With Ryan Dungey getting a much-improved start and Mike Alessi putting in a much-improved ride, there was indeed a better race brewing. Stewart had to work his way past both Dungey and Alessi to get the lead, and then Dungey hung with him for most of the moto, potentially setting up a fight to the finish.
Dungey stayed within about two seconds of Stewart, but any chances of launching an attack ended when he caught lapped traffic. Stewart sliced right past a battling Les Smith and Jason Thomas, but Dungey caught them in a bad spot—in a tight ess-turn section—and couldn’t get past them.
“He [Stewart] got around them and I did the best I could,” says Dungey. “It’s one of those things where sometimes it works out well for you and sometimes it works out bad for you. I think sometimes they need to pay more attention that there is a race coming to them from behind.”
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Dungey (rear) gets caught behind lapper Jason Thomas (near) as he tries to chase down Stewart in moto 2.
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The damage was done, as Dungey logged a 2:10.6 on lap 13, while Stewart went 2:08.1.
Dungey was going to have to hustle to catch back up, and he logged a 2:07.0 the next time around. But, to Stewart’s credit, he knew the storm was coming and countered with an incredible 2.06.4 to make sure Dungey couldn’t close in. From there, the win was on ice.
No doubt the lapped rider incident changed the race strategy for both Stewart and Dungey. But did it change the outcome? Probably not, considering the pace Stewart had. Still, Dungey surely wishes he could have that lap back to let see if things would have played out differently.
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Dealing with lappers is part of racing......Dungey should have made a move before the lappers were even a factor..After re-watrching the race, while Dungey was dealing with Alessi, James looked like a cat ready to pounce...He was waiting for Dungey to pass Alessi, at which point we all know once ALessi gets passed by one guy, the others just fly by...Dungey couldnt seal the deal, so James said the hell with it and went by both..Only then did Dungey say "crap, I really need to pass this Alessi clown"...and then sealed the deal and was right on James rear wheel....Prior to the lappers, Dungey had inched up on James, only to watch James pull back out a few seconds.....Dungey would close up a little and then James would pull back out....Dungey appeared to be pushing while James was just controlling the pace...
round 1 of 12...lots of good racing to go....But for me, I would say the "moment" was when James passed Dungey and Alessi within 3 turns and pretty much cruised....
All part of racing, lappers are racing too ...didnt see any blue flags on the tv coverage ...just racing luck ....as a Dungey fan I am glad James came out doors...just as racing RV did it will make Ryan faster in the long run...he has a long career ahead of him ..if he does not win this year ..next year ..he and KTM will be better...and with the return of the Wounded and the rookies comin up he will need all the speed he can get.....
Killomoto, thanks for stating the obvious. lol
Killomoto: you stole my thoughts, burned my gas, and probably wrestled with my old lady. Please put my motorcycle back in the garage where you found it, and don't kiss my wife goodbye when you finish with her.
Mind Reader.
Sorry but the 'Moment' was when Stewart first through his leg over the saddle of the Zook! When he took his first ride no-one will know but he seems pretty comfy on it.
Killomoto said it
Also like RD said it works both ways
Wasn't it Salt Lake SX that Davi Millslop led all 19 laps only to get messed up by lappers on the last lap and RD went by. Part of racing, kinda sucks
the Dunge is a great rider, but until he gets the aggression to quickly pass riders he is clearly faster than, others will continue to finish ahead of him. He consistently takes too long to get by
Lappers will always exist, it is a race to the finish. Figure it out or shut up.
Thats what I said to a few that blaimed it on the lappers, RD did not have the speed to do it any way on that day.
hey if your a lap down you suck.like rc says, there's a race going on and your not in it.
@ BillC Dungey certainly did have the speed to beat Stewart since he was right on his tail the whole moto.
@ Killmoto Maybe you could go out there and show Dungey how to ride.
@ hawk529 Maybe you and Killmoto could give Dungey lessons since you two have obviously done so well in motocross. Lappers are a part of the deal and sometimes lappers get in the way unintentionally. It was OBVIOUS that when Stewart came up on them he was in a better place to pass them whereas when Dungey was there they moved into tighter sections. I have heard just about every top rider (including Reed and RV) say something about lappers getting in the way.
Stewart dose not f around with lappers,he gets by as soon as he can. Dungey is always slow when it comes to getting around lappers.
@coolhand,, thats not true,, the lappers are racing also...
mxmo....the only ones that know there is a race going on in what 30th place is their friends and family. do you watch them? thats what i thought.
I know JT is a respected guy in MX but I call BS on him bigtime... He didn't have a problem getting out of the way for Stewart when the blue flags were waving everywhere so why did he for Dungey? I don't think he intentionally tried to hang Dungey up but he spaced out and messed up by not moving over. This basically won the race for Bubba.
All facts no speculation. Dungey pros: He's fast and consistent. Knows how to keep ir on 2 wheels. Cons; Lacks aggression. Not as fast as his top competotors over the course of a race. Stays behind riders too long. JS7 pros: He's on a zook. He's fast, his lap times are really consistent over the course of a race. He passes quickly. he adapts to tracks quickly. He can turn up the heat if he needs to. Cons: He rode for yamaha after 2009, He sometimes makes poor decisions that involve other riders. he's crashed alot over the last 2 years. I don't think i missed anything. personally i dont care about the guy who wins champioships because he played it safe and as ok with 2nd place. i'll root for the guy who will crash trying to win, who will drap his footpegs up the face of a jump to make up time and is fun to watch. Dungey is great but he's not fun to watch at all. I dont care if james ever wins another championship. I just want him to win
@coolhand,,, Oh, I see, if your not in the top 30, you might as well quit ?? Good thinking Einstein.. 40 riders line up, so 40 riders are in the race... Simple as that...
@@coolhand,, yes, they should move out of the way, but that just isnt going to happen every single time..
this is simple. all dungey has to do is land on JT$ a few times and he will move out the way faster....lol. worked for bubba.
J-sloan tomktm...not only are they lappers ..their fast racers..(don't think there not fast.. their at a national..everyone thats makes the program is faster than you think) and they have every right to use the whole track while racing for position. Dungey has a problem with passing quickly...not putting him down ,just facts..hes tentative ..Havoc is not..and if he RD did have the speed to beat Havoc..HE WOULD HAVE. Catching him is one thing , PASSING him is another....it DID NOT happen....its early in the season ,don't get your panties in a bunch...Dungey will win some races ....the lappers did'nt cost him this one ..the Suzuki did.
I have never seen ANYONE go thru lappers the way Stewart does. It's almost like he ignores them or tells himself to pretend they aren't there or something. He just goes thru .... Good luck to the guy who's chasing him.
MX4lyfe nailed it for me.....while I respect everyone that lines up I tune in to watch the guys who are racing for wins not podiums! That's why I like RV so much and why I enjoy watching JS too......they don't take a whole lap to pass someone.....in fact more often than not they pass more than one guy in the same section......Don't know what RD's deal is.....he has as much talent or more than anyone......but he will no longer win championships riding conservatively! Not unless he gets a lot of help... JMO
when he seen js pass him his head should of been on a swivel looking to see who was next. jt has been racing long enough he should know better. way to mess up a good race for the fans.
Dungey has always complained about lappers. How theres a real race coming on them. How can people complain about Stewart when Dungey always has to blame lappers. Sorry Ryan but its just your lack in ability to pass people faster than a lap.
Like killomoto said, "The Moment" was when Stewart blew by 2 riders in 3 turns and then checked out. He was cruising and being patient waiting for a good opportunity to pass and was able to cruise after he made those passes. Let's just hope the racing is as good next weekend.
I was there and those riders screwed Dungey. This time is was not Dungey's fault. The riders got two blue flags before the finish line and then they were side by side, there was no room for Dungey, period. When JS got by them they were in single file.
Note this, Dungey made a very quick pass on Alessi to keep Stewart in sight. He was riding aggressive in this moto.
@coolhand,, Its awfully hard to "have your head on a swivel" when you have a guy right behind wanting to pass you. Your just not thinking...
@coolhand you're right ...everybody should just pull over for Dungey...that damn Barcia wouldn't , Reed wouldn't . RV wouldn't and now Thomas and Stewart....just who do they think they are.............Mx4lyfe...nice take ...but Dungey is PLENTY fast over the course of the race and always finishes strong but these guys are there to win championships and don't much care how its done...some need to only win ,some need to grind..the season is young.
looked like stewart had more left in the tank incase dungey made a run on him.
@J-Sloan - easy buddy......I was just stating the obvious and my own opinion...Dungey hauls ass, no doubt and there is nothing that i could teach the man as far as riding goes....However, he was behind Stewart for 20+ minutes before they hit lappers....RV or Reed wouldnt have waited that long to make a move on James, if they were able too that is...and that is the point in my book.....James had Dungey covered.....It would have taken a bigger mistake on James part and he did make a few to allow Dungey to catch up, but even without the lappers, I personally dont think Dungey would have passed James back unless JS7 screwed the pooch...which didnt happen....but Satuday is a new day...a new race and we'll all be here next week debating the same thing.......
done G
The rest of the story, from RX online (Open Mic). Weege forgot a couple key statements.
From post-race press conference:
"Did lappers play a factor?"
"Yeah I don’t know, I mean, he [James] has to deal with the same thing I do. He got around them and I did the best I could. It’s one of those things where sometimes it works out well for you and sometimes it works out bad for you. I think sometimes they need to pay more attention that there is a race coming to them from behind. It seems like it’s the same guys a lot of the time. But, no complaints and no excuses. It was a good race."
Yes, that was one of the handful of moments during all four motos that day. RD was not making excuses as a result of lappers, but he was certainly expressing some frustration.
In the end, does it really matter what any racer says? The actions and subsequent results on race day say 99% of what needs to be stated.
Let it go.
Ah J Sloan still feeling the pain of last weekend, a little touchy of KillMoto's comments. Dunegy just needs to be a little more agressive when passing, he waits to long.KilloMoto is correct that RV,CR or James waste no time in making those moves. Lappers have been part of the sport since, forever. I don't know why people are always so hard on them. I would be happey to be as fast as the slowest guy out there, but then again my ass is getting old.
Don't forget guys RD WAS IN FRONT of JS at one point but could not hold him back so don't blaim the lappers. JS was just better last weekend. This weekend who knows, RD hauls the mail in TX thats for sure!!
I really have to laugh too how so many now see that RD can't pass. I got slammed so bad for saying that back in 2010, He was winning so people called me a hater and worce. But I saw it then and now lots of people see it. It was never a slam at RD it was just what I saw.
@TheChosen1 "I believe that lappers usually don't affect the outcome of a race but sometimes they do.. I think lappers are a part of racing but I'm not out there"
Your comment says nothing. Save your words until you can come up with a viewpoint.
How many times last year did RD get stuck behind Reed?? 20 laps in SX a few times and 30min out side a few times when RD was the fater guy IMO but just could not make it happen. Thats why I am Huge RV fan...He gets it done. RD is a GREAT dude, I like him and respect him and do not rute aganst him but its to hard to pull for him cuz ya get let down when he is the better guy sometimes but can't seal the deal.
J_Sloan wrote: 10:19pm May 18, 2012
I think Weege wants to body-paint Ryan Villopoto. IF Stewart wins tomorrow I will lick my toilet seat and film it and send it in. I am THAT confident in Ryan Dungey. Any of you Stewart fans that confident?
And we wait.....
Indeed Bill C - One of the things that bothers me about the Dunge, is he will make statements in his interviews hinting at what lead to his result like this weekend he says " lappers need to pay attention" or last year it was " Barcia needs to show some respect"...but then he follows up with " but no excuses"....that is kind of a contradiction....It all comes down to passing...I remember seeing RV blitz past Barcia last year at the Dilla, while Dungey followed him (aka couldnt pass him) around for then entire moto.....then he had his close call with Barcia.....wouldnt have happened if he passed him sooner.....And lappers just dont magically appear on the track.....you can see when your catching up to them.....take a different line and pass them like Stewart did.....dont follow them through the "ess-turn"......
and for the record..J-Sloan..I like Dungey, nice kid, GREAT rider........My lady and have one of those freebee bang deals.....She can have the Dunge for the night since she digs him....and I'll gladly keep his lady occupied for the night
KilloMoto I was at the Dilla and could not believe it!!! Yes RV passed him as soon as he got close ( like he always does), RD played with him for 30 + 1 1/2 laps wile RV built a 30 sec lead!!
If that ever happens KilloMoto bring the Vid cam!! LOL
"For me it was a 100 percent surprise when he passed us". I'm calling B.S. Jason Thomas. There are these things waved by Flagmen called (curiously enough) FLAGS.
What's done is done but, for heavens sake, please don't expect us to believe you are "100% unaware" of the flags being waved at you because, if that is so, we are left to believe either one of two things: A) you are a nincompoop oblivious to the world around you (which makes you a hazard on the track) or, B) you IGNORED the flags (which makes you a hazard on the track).
Racing etiquitte dictates the racer being lapped goes "outside" when shown the "Blue & Yellow". If you don't know this, you probably shouldn't be on a track (this is complicated due to the "S-bend" being navigated at the time).
My radar is telling me JT maybe did "Option C" which is: continuing to race w/ his immediate competition thinking "if they're faster, they'll go around". While not egregious in the error, nonetheless it is still an error. Man up, JT admit what you did and move past the incident.......Dungey sure did.
Those here who think Dungy is incapable of passing lappers.
Remember Southwick last year.
BillC, yeah you are such an amazing person, you see things that no one else see's. Man i hope one day i can be like you.
And everyone, in the ess-turns, if a lapper goes to the outside, and another goes to the inside, where is dungey supposed to go??? He has to follow one of them smarty pants.
Is there any way to indicate to the guys getting lapped that there is more than 1 racer right behind them ?
RD often takes too much time to pass, but this time he did get hosed.
Based on what I saw on TV, I have no reason to not believe JT.
What with ess-turn ? Shouldn't it be s-turn ? or maybe for Dungey, effing-s-turn.
Indeed Carlsbad..... Like Dungey said " it seems to be the same guys being lapped"....JT$ gets lapped in every race he enters, he should be used to it by now....Someone asked or may have stated that they didnt see any Blue Flags on TV coverage.....They are there....waiving like always......Dungey had trouble passing the 3-digit dude on the Honda too......regarding the Ess Turns, yes that is a debacle and definitley sucked for Dunge....but he could have passed them sooner...
Who cares.. There is no way RD would have caught JS anyway. He had plenty of time to that earlier in the race,, and never did.
How come no one thinks AS29 will far well at his home track?
Comx I think the only reason RD5 pass so well at Southwick is because he was PISSED OFF! Now if Roger can duplicate the angry 5 we will see him make aggressive passes.
Im a RD5 fan ask BillC I really thought he would be able to dominate but his inabillity to make those quick passes like RV, JS, CR, just to name a few.
Any how I'll catch the the first moto only so i'm sure the racing will be good.
dungey needs to man up he's starting to sound like weimer , how long was he planning on following alessi till stewart had enough and past both of them ? his wait and watch style will cost him damn near everytime real champions make shit happen he better man the f*ck up!
I Like JT and think is is a really good guy, But He got passed two seconds before that by JS! Did he not think for a fraction of a second that there could be a second place rider following him???....I think its cool that he is recognizing his mistake and said that he intends on apologizing to RD, but he still really changed things. there is a race going on all the way bak to 40th , but the BLUE FLAGS ARE FOR A REASON. it means you are significantly slower (on this particular day) and need to get the F out of the way.. and there were blue flags everywhere.
anyone mad because lappers didnt pull to the side of the track and stop you need to stfu that is not what the rule states and you are only saying that because your guy didnt come out on top had stewart got boned by the lappers all the dungey fans would be saying "Hey its part of racing"
this didnt happen on the last lap for christ sakes if dungey had actually tried he probably could have caught stewart we seen him ride like he could when weimer put him over the berm if he rode like that more often he'd be a lot harder to beat
there is no excuse in MX to be complaining about lappers these tracks are plenty wide enough for you to make your way around them you getting behind them and following them in the line they are already in is nobodys fault but your own SX lapped riders need to be a little more curdious because there is not a whole lot of room on those tracks
The rules stae that under a blue flag you are supposed to hold your line and allow the rider to pass, and not inpede their progress, a rider that ignores this could be black flaged
@Bad_Billy_Robinson you Stickler. Nobody cares about the exact wording of any rule book (besides teachers pets and Mormons).
I don't see why two guys AT SPEED racing for position have to pull over for anybody.....if your lapping them it would seem you have skill enough to make a clean pass....I always prefered lappers to just ride normally then you could count on what they are going to do not start looking around and making odd-ball moves AT SPEED..things are happening in a hurry out there its not a video game..if your on the seat cruising around is one thing , but its another if you're racing ,your goggles are dirty and your tired and your hauling a*s..its not SX there is plenty of room and the guys who don't have trouble passing in general don't seem to struggle with lappers..AT ALL.
In defense of JT, however, RD should not had followed in his same line. as in the picture at the top of the page, he is following right behind him.
yeah as someone brought up earlier dungey pissed me off by being pissed at barcia I thought he acted like a baby there is no rule that says if you arent in the points chase that you arent allowed to try and win the race, he was obviously faster than dungey for most of the race anyways lappers hey if you are battleing for first place and you are haveing trouble passing a guy battling for places in the 30's ummm that is YOUR own problem my friend you are obviously way faster than they are put your turn signal on and go around lol
yeah i kinda messed up that post a little, there needs to be an edit feature.
@ bad billy , the sad part is the way dungey talks in his interviews is that he honestly feels they should pull off the track for him
and than the dungey fans feel now that there is a conspiracy brewing where they were paid to let stewart by and hold dungey up by the way they were talking next headline "LAPPER GATE"
I'm with tonewall on this one. Regardless of the rule book, this is reality. Goggles dirty, sweating like a pig, winded, thirsty, hot, legs arms exhausted, still hauling the mail.. you see blue flag you ride same line as you did the laps before nothing erratic, don't hit the breaks don't pull over don't dive into corners any harder then before.. just stay consistent and kept it upright and the leader putting you a lap down will not follow and go around. Simple. Problem here is two guys were taking up the best two lines on the track side by side so Dungy had to follow or find a 3rd line like JS7 did when he passed Alessi and Dungy earlier on.
@blueprint, wait so you mean you can make your own line??? wow what a thought the tracks what 20-30ft wide? a dirtbike with rider might be 2ft wide hmmm yeah i guess theres just no room to pass haha
dungey should watch bagget in moto 1 a bunch of time that guy probably touched every inch of that track
It's funny reading the Dungey haters on here.
I think it's both their faults. I mean JT should of been more aware of what's going on around him, while Dungey should get aggressive. Bottom line is, even if Dungey passed Thomas right away I don't think it would of changed the results.
When I was growing up, I was always taught to hold my line when I was getting lapped and that person would go around me, but nope, not when you're a pro. I just find it weird because you would think that if you're riding your line then there should be enough room to go around.
Green-59 there is no chance of that ever happening your cerebral cortex is not large enough. But never give up on your dreams!!!
Maybe they should make the rule so the blue flag means go to the outside and no passing between the lappers until the leaders go by and the flags are no longer waving.This way the leaders will know where the lappers are going and nobody's race gets messed up.I don't mean for the lappers to pull over or anything,keep going fast move to the outside and resume your battle when the flags stop waving.Everyone deserves to get the best finish they can.
you cant have anyone trying to move these guys dont have rearview mirrors its their job to hold their line and not make any drastic moves its the faster guy behinds job to find a way around them the only time there should ever even be an argument about lappers is if they run into the leaders and take them out its only the guy that looses and his fans that complain about lappers
Bunch of Dungey haters...
@ Jeramey, it is not their job to hold their line...when that flag comes out, it's their job to move over and let the faster rider by. This is common in all moto-sports.
@ penguin_bob (a reference to linux?) there always is enough room to go around, but when you are racing for the lead (as Stewart and Dungey were) , then talking a alternate line can cost too much time which results in a gap between the leaders.
Lappers need to move out of the way...
yeah you'll say that till one abrubtly moves over as the guys coming around the side of him and they both go down
@ jeramey no I won't...it's the rules...read them. They are there for ALL the riders. Get a clue and stop the Dungey hate.
iv. Solid Blue Flag: Indicates a rider is about to be overtaken by a
faster rider. The overtaken rider should hold his line and not
impede the progress of the faster rider. Riders disregarding this
flag may be black-flagged at the discretion of the Race Director
take your own advice!
@ Jeramey What part of "not impede the progress of the faster rider..." don't you understand? Is it the part about not impeding the faster rider?
what part of "hold your line" do you not understand?
@ Jeramey So rider should hold his line and impede a faster rider? Use some common sense and set aside your dislike for a particular rider.
do you even ride? you obviously dont or you would know that you wouldnt want a guy you are trying to pass unexpectedly changing lines on you he CAN NOT see you he has no idea were you are
dude get real i never said i didnt like dungey the only guy on the feild i dont like is #800
@ jeramey stick to the issue. Riders are required not to impede the faster rider. This means that moving out of the line supersedes the lapped riders' race. That's why you see lapped riders moving over...
Use some common sense.
you can type whatever you want sloan but the truth is being that dungey is your favorite rider wether you admit it to us or not, you cannot be happy with his reluctance to pull the trigger when he should
@ jeramey Do you ride? Obviously if you do, you are one of those lapped riders that don't move out the way. Use some common sense.
its no use, its gonna be a long and disapointing summer for you
@ jeramey I have not hidden the fact that I am a Dungey fan and that doesn't change the rules which state that the slower rider should not "impede the progress of the faster rider." What part of that don't you get?
@ jeramey Why is it going to be a long and disappointing summer for me? Can you predict the future now? It's too bad that "fans" like you are only "fans" when a rider is winning. Stop the hate and grow up.
Jeramey is beat and he leaves...
funny thing is that you have no idea who im a fan of. but as long as your boy keeps tip toeing around lappers like this, this will be easier for james than beating tim ferry in 2008
thats not hating im stating facts that dungey is not gonna get it done by riding his usual conservative self.
hating would have been "dungey sucks he dont stand a chance "
which you and i both know is not true , you blame the lappers i blame dungey his problems started with alessi not the lappers the lappers were just the nail in the coffin
I don't need to know who you are a fan of. Reading your comments about Dungey and saying things like "your boy" tells me who you are NOT a fan of. It also tells me you are an immature person.
okay toilet boy, have fun lickin seats bro im done with you
I don't know how everything is about Thomas here, he would've gotten by Thomas and Smith easy in the wide open section had he not been stuck behind the 565 (maybe 585?) of Mull riding the widest bike I've ever seen for 15-20 seconds right before that. Go ahead, watch it again.
Hey J Sloan, you must be wearing a KTM thong on backwards man!! we all know you love RD but come on!! RD needs to find some aggression out there. Even Alessi dukes it out. Bubba will hand it to him every time if he doesnt step up the fight.
And dude only one comment or better yet get a job.To much time on your hands to post all day lol
The Moment: Jeramey realizes he spelled him name funny and it should be spelled, Jeremy.
horrible write up ya bunch of Qwatts.
Going to be a long season ...Dungy will be just fine...Anything can happen...but...James healthy and happy with his set up.,,Unbeatable.. Listen to what Dad advises and everything will be just fine James...Best wishes..
man you got me there sloan lol, i actually prefer my name to be pronounced Jer-a-me, rather than the alternative Germ-e
@tomktm...you said "I know JT is a respected guy in MX but I call BS on him bigtime... He didn't have a problem getting out of the way for Stewart when the blue flags were waving everywhere so why did he for Dungey? I don't think he intentionally tried to hang Dungey up but he spaced out and messed up by not moving over. This basically won the race for Bubba."..........are you serious?? Man there is nothing you wont say to discredit JS is there?? JT did NOT move over for James, he didn't have to, James didn't screw around and got by them before they even knew what happened....RD needs to do this more, i wish he would!! "This basically won the race for Bubba".....BAHAHAHAHAHA, now that is funny!! Keep trying "tommyktmboy"!!
Having been a lapper many times myself, the worst thing is when your racing with someone for last place. Then this guy standing on the side of the track waving a blue flag at you. You take a quick peek behind you to see the guys in first and second comig up fast. You slide out of the main line to let them by, only to see the guy your racing jump in right behind them and pass you. The next turn I sent his ass to the porta potties.
boy that dungey guy really stinks huh? pee-yeew!
pugueu...thats what rc says. you get lapped you have to go to the pits. the ones that dont agree are the ones that ride around getting lapped! all the top complain about lappers one time or another. you seen barcia meltdown with his lapper, yeah i know he put barcia down but it pisses them off. the leaders shouldn't have to put up with it. again nobody cares about 30th place so get the fauk out of the way.
@Mr-Mx; If they don't get a column up in time for your flight, I'm afraid you'll just have to cancel your reservation. You can't leave us all hang"n, Man...
No Picks, No Trip! It's that simple...
Wasn't JT the one that Stewart ran into the back of last season. I guess that "lack of aggression" by Dungey may have prevented the same thing from happening.
If you just got lapped, how could you have "no idea" that there may be other riders coming next? Seems pretty weak.