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Race Report: Daytona

Sunday, March 11, 2012 | 12:55 AM

The JGR/Toyota Yamaha MX team has roots in NASCAR, so it seems fitting that their team would log its best-ever AMA Supercross performance at stock car racing’s most storied grounds—Daytona. James Stewart and Davi Millsaps logged a 1-2 finish for the squad, but the race conditions were unlike anything seen at a NASCAR race. Rain may have delayed the Daytona 500 a few weeks ago, but it did nothing to stop the top supercross riders, who put on a great show on a muddy track in a constant day-long downpour. Fans were just as thrilled to see Kevin Windham log his first podium of the season on his GEICO Honda.

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James Stewart snagged his second win of the season in a Daytona mudder.

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Stewart's teammate Davi Millsaps grabbed the holeshot and yielded to his teammate, but held on to second.

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Windham was a popular third.
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Meanwhile championship points leader Ryan Villopoto saw his two-race Daytona Supercross by Honda win streak end. It happened with a stroke of luck similar to what Stewart has been dealing with lately. The Monster Energy Kawasaki rider got a bad start and then crashed in the third turn, leaving him dead last at the beginning of the rain-shortened 16-lap main. He fought, scratched and clawed his way back to finish fifth and salvage valuable points. Considering his closest championship competitor, Red Bull KTM’s Ryan Dungey, had to miss the race with a broken collarbone, Villopoto’s title hopes look better than ever despite the tough night at Daytona. Red Bull KTM’s Marvin Musquin finished fourth.

In the Lites class, GEICO Honda’s Justin Barcia kept his perfect season going with a fourth-straight win, barely holding off a fast closing Blake Baggett. Baggett’s Monster Energy Pro Circuit Kawasaki teammate Darryn Durham took third.

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Villopoto fought back from last to fifth.

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No problem with Stewart's start this time....

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Millsaps and Stewart headlined the JGR team's best ever night in supercross.
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In the SX class, now desperate for another title contender after Dungey’s injury, Stewart will now gather some attention for getting the win. But he’s still a massive ____ points behind Villopoto in the standings. His day started with a nod to the old school, as Stewart ran the #259 on his bike in free practice (his old amateur and original pro number) and was hanging out with old friend Tony Haines throughout the day. With his #7 bolted back on for the timed qualifying session (there was only one timed session as rain led to a cancellation of the first timed practice), Stewart logged a lap nearly three seconds faster than anyone. Then Windham established himself in the heat races, winning the first heat and logging a faster lap than Stewart did when he won heat two. However, the rain kept coming and coming, so all bets were off heading into the main event.

Stewart had been struggling with starts lately, but he had an almost guaranteed good start in the main due to his good gate pick. The Daytona gate favored the inside gate on every start, and since Stewart’s heat race was fastest (Windham had the faster lap but Stewart had the faster complete race time) he lined up on the inside. But then Millsaps ripped the holeshot, with Stewart right behind him. They battled before Millsaps secured the lead, with Windham third.

Millsaps led the first two laps. The muddy track had become one-lined, but Stewart tried a few tricks to get around. It came down to a teammate drag race down a straight into the second turn, and Stewart barely got to the spot, shut the door, and took off with the lead. Millsaps then came under pressure from Windham, but they both got roosted bad in a water hole by some lappers. Windham got blasted enough to where he had to back it down, and Millsaps hung tough for his first SX podium since 2010.

Musquin rode a smart and steady race all the way on his KTM 350, never really challenged en route to fourth. At one point, BTOSports.com/BBMX rider Matt Goerke looked set to get a fifth, but he stalled late and dropped to ninth. Jake Weimer was also in the hunt for a fifth, but he crashed late, and Villopoto took advantage of the carnage to take fifth.

Motoconcept’s Mike Alessi took sixth ahead of Monster Energy Kawasaki’s Weimer, Monster Energy Pro Circuit Kawasaki’s Broc Tickle, Goerke, and Yoshimura Suzuki’s Brett Metcalfe.

In the Lites race, Barcia once again nailed the start. He sprinted away for the first few laps, but then Baggett started putting on a hard charge. He closed to Barcia’s rear wheel but then crashed, putting him about 10 seconds back. Then Baggett gathered himself for another charge, digging super deep to close in on Barcia again. He got back to Barcia’s rear tire again, but ran out of time in the rain-shortened 12-lap main (and with Daytna’s long lap times and the brutal, muddy conditions, the race was still way longer than a typical 15-lap Lites main).

 

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Justin Barcia led Blake Baggett by a small margin at the end.

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Yup. It was muddy.

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Durham came through the pack to finish third.
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Durham started pretty far back but logged a hard charge, passing Red Bull KTM’s Ken Roczen and Rockstar Suzuki’s Blake Wharton to take third. Roczen was fourth and Wharton fifth.

The series now, mercifully, heads back indoors with next weekend’s Indianapolis Supercross at Lucas Oil Stadium.

 

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The SX podium.

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The Lites podium.

SX Class Results

1. J. Stewart

2. D. Millsaps

3. K. Windham

4. M. Musquin

5. R. Villopoto

6. M. Alessi

7. J. Weimer

8. B. Tickle

9. M. Goerke

10. B. Metcalfe

11. N. Wey

12. K. Chisholm

13. K. Regal

14. G. Faith

15. J. Sipes

16. J. Brayton

17. C. Seely

18. R. Clark

19. W. Peick

20. R. Kiniry

 

Lites Results

1. J. Barcia

2. B. Baggett

3. D. Durham

4. K. Roczen

5. B. Wharton

6. J. Canada

7. K. Cunningham

8. M. Stewart

9. C. Thompson

10. T. Weeck

11. L. Smith

12. S. Sewell

13. A. Martin

14. T. Bowers

15. J. Starling

16. P. Larsen

17. K. Peters

18. J. Bogle

19. J. Gibson

20. P. Nicoletti

SX Class Standings: 1. Villopoto 221, 2. Dungey 192, 3. Stewart 177, 4. Windham 143, 5. Weimer 134, 6. Millsaps 131, 7. Reed 128. 8. Metcalfe 124, 9. Brayton 121, 10. M. Alessi 113.

Lites Class Standings: 1. Barcia 100, 2. Durham 76, 3. Roczen 75, 4. Wharton 72, 5. Baggett 62, 6. Canada 56, 7. Bogle 46, 8. M. Stewart 42, 9. Cunningham 42, 10. Thompson 32.

 

 

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The Conversation

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PartyBoy wrote: 3:00am March 11, 2012

Holeshot! Boom goes the dynamite. Good job Stewart and Millsaps and K-Dub! Also, Barcia is perfect right now. Even his awesome stache.

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PartyBoy wrote: 3:00am March 11, 2012

Holeshot! Boom goes the dynamite. Good job Stewart and Millsaps and K-Dub! Also, Barcia is perfect right now. Even his awesome stache.

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yamalink wrote: 5:08am March 11, 2012

Did Bates tell Barcia "your wall is now on the name"?

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nigelsiam wrote: 7:31am March 11, 2012

@yamalink yeah, that's exactly what she said. she was sporting a boner so it was hard for her to get the words out. And Musquin! yeah! on a KTM 350! What was up with him looking so clean at the end of the race?

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someguy wrote: 8:03am March 11, 2012

This was a good race, but, boring overall. Mudders are part of it though. Competition would've been much better dry. On the flipside, F#CK YA KDUB!

and way to salvage RV, good job.

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mntbikerodi wrote: 9:10am March 11, 2012

Good race for all of the Guy's, when do you #7 haters, start hating RV or RD.

If the cat was not racing, you'd b?t#h about that, Heck just enjoy the racing.

Maybe save it up for his brother or Barcia in a year or too. Good ride K-DUB!

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Welker wrote: 9:16am March 11, 2012

@ someguy what the heck is your prmb with Windham? You are a disgrace period.
Notoced Windham shaved for Daytona I gues he was expecting to do god or Dotie got on his case? Anyhow you rode a good race Kevin. I realy expected Brayton to do beter as where he grew up in Iowa and they dont usualy cancel for mud in districts 17,18 and 22. Maybe he had some technical problems?
Glad James got another win under his belt. I have never studied the new Yamaha's so caled backward engine but was wondering about wet and mud races with the air intake in front. Loks like the JGR guys have that figured out? Now with JGR going 1 and 2 they can get some god press!
WE al know Vilo can ride in the mud and he charged very well got some god and bad luck and the chapionship is his and Kowie's to lose at this point. Stil a long way to go and I hope the best for all.
@ handlebar drager that was a god post! Lets see what others have to say.
Now waiting for the BilC post on RV he always has some good perspective if we like it or not it is alway interesting.
Take care all and yes I am suposed to get a new keyboard today and @CZmark I wont spil any of my MD 20/20 on it anymore, but that stil wont help my typing?

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kenniballs wrote: 9:24am March 11, 2012

Mister Weigandt, I'm pretty sure that it's Tickle riding the 25 with white backgrounds.

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bermblaster wrote: 9:25am March 11, 2012

quit blaming your keyboard on your horrible spelling. I've seen some bad spellers in my day, but this guy tops the list. If you think "good" is spelled "god", then how would you spell "God"?

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someguy wrote: 9:25am March 11, 2012

It's F^ck YA, not F^ck YOU...numbnuts

KDub is the shit.

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someguy wrote: 9:31am March 11, 2012

BillC has alot of good insight if ya ask me, doesnt spill out BS rhetoric and theories. Says it like it is.



Why do all you people b!tch so much? Damn.

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someguy wrote: 9:32am March 11, 2012

85% of you wouldn't know where the kickstarter is on a bike, so shut it.

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someguy wrote: 9:35am March 11, 2012

Lol i'd love to get on a track with a few of you and show you how it's done, send ya home cryin. Couple of ya would have my number i'm sure though, the ones who have intelligent, factual comments.

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bucky394 wrote: 9:36am March 11, 2012

@welker-hey man that mad dog 20/20 packs a punch! Use with caution!! Seen many a passed out individual from that stuff!!LOL

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Red44 wrote: 10:11am March 11, 2012

Barcia is the man, and after that, I see him going undefeated this season. He is too fast and gets way to good of starts consistantly.. Even if he isnt getting the holeshot, he is in the top 2 or 3 and makes his passes quickly.. He isnt getting beat in the East Coast this season..

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motorhead620 wrote: 10:17am March 11, 2012

@ someguy
How would you spell FAH-Q ??? Just kiddin bro,yur post kinda came across as "fahq ya,windham got third." Not fahq YAH windham got third.

Hay Welker,md 20/20 is like genuine ice blatz light cold filtered non-alcoholic compared to night train. Ya tellin me you from the hood and never rode the train???

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wrote: 10:20am March 11, 2012

@Handlebardragqueen ... Way to make yourself look stewpid.... Bringing up Js run in with the law , When you say stuff like that , Makes your posts about racing seem one sided , and therfore has no Validity .. But casual uneducated fans are allowed on her as well , so post away , and make yourself look even more silly ! .........

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kevlar5 wrote: 10:20am March 11, 2012

This was an epic race to attend in person, the wife even enjoyed it. We stood right on the rail next to the track for the whole time between the last triple and the finish line. Mad props to Barcia, Baggett, Stew, Millsaps, and Windham! It took serious balls to hit that last triple every lap as there was not much run up to it and those guys did it every lap. Villo was points racing, understandable given the situation, but he looked like a mere mortal last night compared to the top finishers.

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2DamnOld2Race wrote: 10:24am March 11, 2012

Barcia's hair / appearance this year shocked me till I found out the ole Michigan farmboy Stanton was training him. Stanton ain't putting up with that long haired tree huggin hippy crap lol. (John Elway is my father, John Elway is my father, nah nah, nah nah). lmao

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wrote: 10:29am March 11, 2012

running the stash , is now the new thing , dont you guys read GQ geeeezzzz,

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wrote: 10:29am March 11, 2012

Stache .....for you Grammer Police

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Tracks wrote: 10:30am March 11, 2012

Glad for James and Davi, nice night for JGR. Little suprised Poto would make such a mistake but think he was just frantic to get up front and out of the roost/mud.

Love's me some Bam Bam.....kid's living his dream. Better watch Bagget though, looks like he might have caught fire.

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B-KR wrote: 10:44am March 11, 2012

Man, I think one mud race every 5 years or so is enough. Any one of us can hit the local hare scrambles and see guys wallowing in a rutted up mess. I just don't understand why some people get all riled up when they see it might be a mud race, because it really isn't much to watch. It does mix up the results as far as an equalizer, but watching James roll muddy jumps for a couple of laps and squirm through the ruts just doesn't seem very exciting. I did get a kick out of RV riding side-saddle though! Also found it VERY odd that they were acting like someone came and stole all of Dungey's points talking about how RV had a 55 (53 Ralph-over James) point lead when it was still 13 at that point. Even now, James is still a ways behind Dunge. Weird how they discounted the fact that Dungey STILL is in 2nd 15 points ahead of Stew.

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threetofour wrote: 10:49am March 11, 2012

kw making a neat little barrel there. cool photo,beware of the brown wave!

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someguy wrote: 10:56am March 11, 2012

ya man you could surf KWs' wave, lol.

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sef154 wrote: 10:58am March 11, 2012

I know some people complain that they don't like mud races, but with the similarities between most of the other SX tracks, I love the way mud throws a wrench in the works and scrambles things up! I wouldn’t want it every week, and really, it doesn't seem to happen as often as it used to (credit track prep and indoor stadiums), but to me, once in awhile, a good ol' fashioned mudder is fun. Especially when you're a K-Dub fan! Props to Stewart for doing what he needed to do (and you can certainly say the same for RV). You could tell Millsaps had a fire under him from the heat races; good for him. And KW14 ... what can you say? With Reed and Dunge out, I'm calling for Kevin to end up third in the series (and if either of the top two get hurt, he’ll move up further). Let's hope the racing stays good, now that we're headed back inside. Love Daytona!

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sef154 wrote: 11:03am March 11, 2012

@B-KR - They discount Dungey's points because he's not coming back any time soon (much to my chagrin)! We're talking "for all practical purposes" here! It's better than "putting your wall on the name"! That might be the screwiest of Erin's many screw-ups. I was commenting last night how women announcers in other top sports are SO MUCH more professional than her. Can we PLEASE get another "sideline" reporter???

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B-KR wrote: 11:19am March 11, 2012

I don't know if Dungey is out all that long. There was no timeline in the release, just "out for Daytona". I have a feeling Dungey decided to plate the collarbone to give him the quickest possible return, not because it was needed to heal properly. I give Dungey a 50/50 of riding Indy. Even if he doesn't make it there, I bet he is riding this week to see if it is Dunge-able.

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yamalink wrote: 11:23am March 11, 2012

Dungey out 4 to 6 weeks.

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B-KR wrote: 11:29am March 11, 2012

Forgot to add........Roczen. I really thought he would catch them all and leave them in his wake in the slop. This should have been THE perfect setup for a heaping of whoopazz on a platter for them all, yet Durham caught him and left him. Really didn't expect that.

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MX Bob wrote: 11:47am March 11, 2012

This is Yamaha's payback. Reed lost the last Daytona Waterfest, when his YZ quit on the last lap.

Career win 44. 45 points behind.

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MX Bob wrote: 11:53am March 11, 2012

Oops 44 point behind.

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Welker wrote: 12:03pm March 11, 2012

Ya I thought Roczen would do it last night forgot to mention that.
@bermblaster several of my keys wontwork corect have to keep punching them hard or they dont work, the "o" key and some others dont always work, I also have bad arthritis in my fingers. I used to type quite well.
Some time ago I was joking with CZmark cause I had got a botle MD20 ,hey it is cheap and this blue stuff dont tast to bad, May get me "hic" some this afternoon when I go get a keyboad I realy gota smak these keys, tried rebooting.

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therealmofo wrote: 12:09pm March 11, 2012

Aot of guys were saying the Stewart was due, and he was for sure. He looked confident and fast. Did Ralph Shaheen really say "Is this Stewarts start at a run for the title"????? Really???? Sorry Ralph, your dreamboy is WAAAYYY TOOOO far out unless RV goes down and out. He is still 44 points out and RV had his worst race of the year almost.. Stewart ran well last night, but face it, he is a 4th place rider.. He isnt going to challenge for Titles, race wins sure, buyt not titles.. Sorry Ralphie....

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BD25 wrote: 12:21pm March 11, 2012

Not a big fan of riding or racing in the mud, it is more work, requires great balance and alot of confidence...so I tip my helmet to all who were in last nights quagmire of a track...to jump a tripple in those conditions..wow....
The Lites gave us the best racing, with Baggett chasing Barcia, if Bam Bam was guageing Baggett he cut it awful close...Props to Durham, his ride thru the mess was very impressive also, the PC boys will be a force in the outdoors. Roczen was not as good as I had expected in the mud and Wharton rode a solid mud race...seeing Bogle stuckin the mud reminded me of Reed in Millville in 06...aahhh good times....lol...
The big boys had more of a one line track to deal with, most of the passing was done when the guy in front stalled or fell over...Villopoto rode good will once he got one leg on each side of the motorcycle, his side saddle, flip flop was fun to watch, he looked human for moment...great job getting to 5th...Musquin made the day for KTM with his best ride on the 350, with all the bad news coming from their camp, he was the only sunshine they saw all week...K-Dub rode the way we all expected him to in the mess, I know he was happy to be on the podium, but I bet a part of him still wanted more...still a terrific ride for the Ole Guy...Millsaps was the suprise for me, knew he could ride in slop, but he was on it early, rode hard all race long, this ought to give him some needed confidence for the upcoming rounds.. Then there was James, he has some serious skills in the mud, found and used a few different lines got by Davi and kept that 7 clean the rest of the way....Don't think this race changed anything, as most were in survival mode, but it does show the talent these guys have on a two wheels...Now off to Indy, back inside to a dry track...can Barcia's streak be stopped ...will we get the 2-7 race we all want to see ...tune in next week, same bat time ,same bat channel..

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kyle43mx wrote: 12:33pm March 11, 2012

First off I just wanna say that I love RacerX and I think it's awesome how quick they can get a full race report up after the race is over but I don't know if I've ever read an article with more spelling and grammatical errors in it.
Also anybody else notice the picture of Durham at the end is actually Tickle.
Keep doing what you do RacerX just take an extra proof read next time ;)

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V-O-R wrote: 12:49pm March 11, 2012

Hey handlebardragger....STFU!!

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tonewall wrote: 1:01pm March 11, 2012

H A V O C 7.....haha here come the haters with lights a flashing....even when the guy rides great the stalkers lose sleep. I love the mud ...it is a great place to see the difference between who can RIDE and who can only race and there IS a big difference. @handlebar ...you think RV's a 5th place guy normally on the dry....wtf....@someguy ..most of us would think YA means 'yuh' or you , not yeah or yes ,don't blame us for not getting your 'mess-stick'. AWESOME ride for Bam but Baggett looked like the best mudder of the night ,that guy was flyin..Durham again on the box....my mookie fever has broken and i'm glad its over....

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wrote: 1:19pm March 11, 2012

@Bkr. Yeah there was some jump rolling last night ,.... But alot of flatout pinning it on some of those triples , and some serious skills to make a pass , Best race to watch this year , for me , because it took a lot of heart to finish , not just win , To diminish JS7 s ride is Foolish .... I think if James does the outdoors , RV may be in Trouble .... HERE WE GO !!!!!

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bck333 wrote: 1:39pm March 11, 2012

Leave Erin alone. She adds personality to the broadcast. She has been to more races than most people and she is tall and hot and nice and I like her so leave her alone you guys.

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B.A. Gofastus wrote: 2:03pm March 11, 2012

Wow! talk about the pot calling the kettle black! Damn! thanks (yet again) for the LOL Preston.


"@Handlebardragqueen ... Way to make yourself look stewpid.... Bringing up Js run in with the law , When you say stuff like that , Makes your posts about racing seem one sided , and therfore has no Validity .. But casual uneducated fans are allowed on her as well , so post away , and make yourself look even more silly ! ......... "


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dgizzy1 wrote: 2:41pm March 11, 2012

ha i called it b4 the race. Anytime you are racing in Florida JS7 is bound to put a riding clinic. Which means JS7 has a 90% chance of winning any race in Fl and last night was no different.

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Overskil wrote: 2:46pm March 11, 2012

Man,RV did look like a mere mortal! I thought he actually looked really bad in his heat and the main,and I am an RV fan.Looked like his bike was not setup right at all.JS actually had a good bit of flow,even in those conditions!No at all what I expected.

I think RV may have a tough time with having such a big points lead!He is a fighter,not a guy that rides his best when he is in reality,just having to cruise now to the championship!I think he is going to battle more mentally now with himself,than with the actual races at hand.

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thinkmx wrote: 3:01pm March 11, 2012

gnarly track out there... loved the doubles they had to case to get over the puddles fast... that would tire you out fast

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Welker wrote: 3:05pm March 11, 2012

Hey all my neibors daughter just brought me this new keyboard! see I can now type good keyboard instead of god keyboard if I meant god it would be GOD. STill will make errors wish ther was spell check on here? My problem is I used to type faster but now my fingers cannot keep up with what I am thinking.
I will try to do better with these old fingers???? I am not perfect and nobody is.
Anything can hapen yet cause the Supercross season is still a long way till Vegas!
Thanks to the good people here and I can put up with the ones that have to say the bad stuff.
Take Care all, Next stop Indy! one Supercross mudder a year is all we need to bad it was at Daytona. I guess it seems like Hannah is gonna fill in for Reed that is what my bookie says??????

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Welker wrote: 3:12pm March 11, 2012

@ The chosen one, first of all give me back my kadeliscope then how did you know I was dyelexic? then also how do you know what it is like doing acid and looking through a kadeliscope??????

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MX Bob wrote: 3:16pm March 11, 2012

Until the lead is less then 25, RV has firm control of this series. I'm sure he's less worried than some are speculating here.

The more possible goal for JS is tying RC's SX win total. He'd need 4 wins.

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Welker wrote: 3:17pm March 11, 2012

@ BD25 your post are pretty goo keep up the good work!

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CZmark wrote: 3:17pm March 11, 2012

Interesting racing last night! A little mud and rain sure changes things. But overall it was good to see Bubbles, Davey, and Kevin get on the podium. There was one good question out there and that was, how did Marvin stay so clean? I was wondering about that myself. The other question I have is how come there is always some poster out there that is going to show us where the kick starter is?
Also you guys heard it, bck333 said hands off of Erin! lol

@Welker, did you know that keyboard racing and MD 20/20 doesn't mix? lol

@fred- was that you and tons of fun mud wrestling last night in the infield?

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Welker wrote: 3:18pm March 11, 2012

@Golfyoda I replied go look.

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Welker wrote: 3:22pm March 11, 2012

@ czmark, yes I know and also you shoud know what those old snow fences did to our fingers?

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JimboMX374 wrote: 4:15pm March 11, 2012

Direct Quote from Weege (Board)

"Which either means Ryan Villopoto is due up next for bad luck"

JimM
Pala374

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BD25 wrote: 5:47pm March 11, 2012

Welker, I too, have old fingers, poor eye sight and have not seen a typeing teacher in going on 40 years....so ....I make mistakes too....but .. thanks to all that read and like what I post...

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bigtireguy wrote: 6:18pm March 11, 2012

Congrats to JS7 and Dm18. KDUB14 you are stud! I was hoping my guy CR22 was going to ask Stewey a few questions after his heat win but he didn't, that would have been interesting. Bring on next week and lets see if Bubbles can repeat. I don't thinks RV1 will allow him to rattle off two wins in a row.

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Red54m wrote: 8:25pm March 11, 2012

I would not read ANYTHING into this race. All you need to do is look at the pictures. A guy races in one of these once or twice every couple of years when you combine SX and MX.

JS7 did ride very well and managed a great race. I am sure on the first lap his pit board said RV1 LAST. In those conditions, I am sure it helped him keep it on 2 wheels.

RV1 did look like he had a brain fartearly but rode very well to salvage.

He lost some points a little bit of mometum but again..... when you do this once or twice every 60 or 70 races you can hardly use one of these to establish a trend.

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MustardDog wrote: 10:26pm March 11, 2012

damn- if dungey and reed were still racing- damn, we would have a battle right now

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newguy wrote: 11:37pm March 11, 2012

B-KR is an a s s munch...yep i said it!! Regardless how far back he is, or whatever else you say, getting a win and riding that well under those conditions deserves a little credit......although you will never give any to JS.......u suck dude!!

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B-KR wrote: 12:52am March 12, 2012

Nice going newguy. What did I say bad about James now that you are attributing to me? I commented on not being a big fan of mud races and since James won used him as the example of why I find them boring. Not a big fan of watching the winner and fastest guy on the track (gasp is that credit I just gave?) rolling jumps because the track is so treacherous. That is not a knock on James or his ride. You obviously have some sort of a problem. Here's some more, and all serious. James kicked ass, he was in control of the race the whole way, he SMOKED everyone in qualifying, he dominated. Good enough for you? On another note, James has been the 2nd fastest rider at most races this year. All positives for James from me! So now what will you complain about? Yer so into James that you can't even comprehend comments properly. Get that checked out.

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BillC wrote: 7:26am March 12, 2012

I guess the "JS is not in shape" crap will stop now??? LOL he rode a great 16 laps, Very clean ride in the mud and thats not easy!!.

.I think the 800 pushing RV wide in the corner was not on purpous, He was in a rut. Then RV did some rodio riding LOL. Great come back and if it was 20 laps most likly would have made it up more. 7 to go with 44 points to spare.. looking good. he can get a lot of 3rds and 4ths and still win it even if JS won them all.

.Yes B-KR RD is out 4/5 weeks so thats why they did not talk about him in the points cuz it did not matter. They need to talk it up about JS now even though it a LONG shot at best.

. Thanks Welker and someguy, Glad to hear some say it.

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BillC wrote: 7:27am March 12, 2012



Scrub-This I guess K-Dub was gifted 3rd then right?

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B-KR wrote: 8:31am March 12, 2012

Yeah, just read on MXA that KTM guys told them 4-6 weeks. Whatever happens, happens I guess. Still drove me crazy hearing them talk about a 55 point lead when it was 13 at the time (and 55 wasn't even the right spread back to Stewart-it was 53). Ralph easily could have qualified it by saying Dungey is out, and that lead is over Stewart. Did they once mention he was out for 4 weeks? Until the checkered flag on Saturday night in Indy, the lead is STILL going to be 29 points over Dungey.

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yamaha35 wrote: 9:32am March 12, 2012

how about the big blue, the backwards bikes work good in the mud dont they....

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Open_Class wrote: 10:20am March 12, 2012

Outdoor sandy slop fest track. Indoor hard and dry sx track

I see these as two very different things. So far there has been 1 of the first type, and 9 of the second type.

1 does not constitute a trend or a pattern. 1 of a different type is not a data sample that can even be considered in the equation, with the exception that the it counts in the points and as such they have been adjusted.

As for the singular event, I believe there is much back patting to go around.
JS rode well all day and did what he HAS to do at ths point, win.

Davi was on his game and it is unfortunate that he seems to bonce between A game and B game his whole career so far. Last night was A game and well done

KW was.....Well, KW. He continues to impress

RV went from last to 5th in 16 laps through nasty conditions with a points lead that did not require him to do so. That IS impressive. He did more than he needed to in this situation and has done it two other times making the podium in one of them.

Again, this was a singular situation and no real trend or pattern can be pulled from it. Everyone did as they where supposed to and RV did more than was needed.

Now, back to the regularly scheduled program.

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AC89 wrote: 1:28pm March 12, 2012

Another Daytona mudder.... yawn. Interesting for a few minutes. How many years does it take to figure out that if you dig holes in front of the jumps, they'll fill with water when it rains. Haul dirt in, built the track up, don't dig it down.

If mains can get laps cut when it's muddy, they should be added when lap times are short.

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hamncheeze wrote: 1:39pm March 12, 2012

RV looked awesome out there, but his 5th is a direct result of his impatience off the start. He went into that tight right hander and tried to force the pass on Goerke and there clearly was not room. Had he checked up, he could have rounded that turn in about 7th place and likely run everyone down for the win.

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Maico25 wrote: 5:19pm March 12, 2012

Villo said he made a bad choice before the main. Any clues?
Someone said he made it back to about where he would have in under dry conditions. If they would have run the full 20 laps the entire top ten would probably been different of course that is only speculation, Villo may have even DNF'ed but I think he would have been on podium if had run 20 laps.

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ride111mph wrote: 8:26pm March 12, 2012

RV salvage a bad race into a 5th place. That spells championship!!!!!
Did Daytona stop having 30 riders on the gate and when did they change it?

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