Racer X Race Report: Dallas
Sunday, February 19, 2012 | 3:05 AM
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You can’t win a title in one night but you can certainly lose it, and that was the story tonight for Monster Energy Supercross in Dallas. The seventh round of the Supercross Championship and opener of the Lites East tour offered up battles, crashes and aggressive riding, and each race had a big impact on the prospective championship chases.
In the SX main event, two riders immediately established themselves as the class of the field—and it was the same two riders that battled last week, Monster Energy Kawasak’s Ryan Villopoto and TwoTwo Motorsports Bel-Ray Honda’s Chad Reed. The Alessi brothers, Mike and Jeff, actually fought for the holeshot, and Jeff took the award, but Villopoto and Reed shoved past them by the second turn and started pulling away from the field.
Villopoto (1) and Reed (22) pushed to the front right off the start...
...and stayed close for the first eight laps.
Weimer (21) had a good start and stayed in podium range throughout the night.
Cudby photos
Meanwhile Villopoto’s teammate Jake Weimer took over third quickly ahead of Mike Alessi, while Jeff Alessi began to fall back. Red Bull KTM’s Ryan Dungey was way back after a bad start, as a big crash off the start in his heat race left him with a terrible gate pick in the main. Worse yet was the night for JGR Toyota Yamaha. James Stewart had a bad start, and when his teammate Davi Millsaps lost the back end in a corner and fell, Stewart had nowhere to go and bumped into the back of him. Stewart then stalled his bike and went back to 19th place, with Millsaps picking it up in 20th. Stewart rallied back to sixth, Millsaps took 15th place.
Up front, Reed was and Villopoto were deadlocked in a battle for the lead. Reed was pressing Villopoto hard, and it looked like a battle to the finish was coming, until Reed crashed super hard in a sand section. He was tripling into the sand and making up ground, but came up short on that triple once, and over the bars he went. It looked like he would at least have a soft landing, but his leg got caught in the bike, and as the bike flipped, it pulled him hard by the leg. Reed didn’t get back into the race, and needed help from the Asterisk Medic Crew to walk off of the track. Rumors are swirling of a leg or knee injury for Reed, who tweeted that he’s heading to California to find out what is wrong. Regardless of the injury prognosis going forward, Reed looked fast enough to possibly take the win in Dallas, but instead ending up scoring just one championship point with a 20th place finish. One crash had a tremendous impact on the series.
Reed was in pain after a crash and could not rejoin the race.
Cudby photo
From there, Villopoto cruised to an easy win, gaining huge points in the series. Weimer took over second and battled Dungey to the end to try to keep it. With two laps to go, Dungey made a move, but when he checked Weimer up, Weimer went back underneath to get the position back. On the last lap, Dungey stuck to the inside on a triple and stayed inside heading into the next corner, and then made contact with Weimer—a follow up to him running Weimer into the ground last weekend. The pass actually ripped the shifter off of Weimer’s bike and left him stuck in first gear, so even though Weimer had a shot at repassing Dungey, he didn’t have the drive to make it happen. Dungey took second with Weimer third.
Alessi held on for a solid fourth on his MotoConcepts bike, fighting off pressure from GEICO Honda’s Kevin Windham. Then Windham made a bunch of late mistakes and lost spots to Dodge Motorsports/Hart and Huntington’s Josh Hansen. Hansen took fifth, and Stewart was sixth. Windham, Yoshimura Suzuki’s Brett Metcalfe, Honda Muscle Milk’s Justin Brayton and Jeff Ward Racing/DNA’s Kyle Chisholm rounded out the top ten.
Weimer and Dungey had a huge battle for second that went down to the final lap.
Dungey got the spot and also moved back into second in points.
Mike Alessi said he's trying to race supercross this year and not just survive it--his strong riding netted him a fourth.
Cudby photos
Crashes and told the story in the Lites East opener as well. GEICO Honda’s defending East Champion Justin Barcia took the win, but he did some battling, getting past his teammate Justin Bogle first before setting his sites on and Monster Energy Pro Circuit Kawasaki’s Darryn Durham. They battled a bit, and Barcia made the move down on the inside after the whoops to get the lead. Red Bull KTM’s Ken Roczen and J-Star JDR KTM’s Malcolm Stewart began rolling up on the group and Roczen got Bogle for third. Then Stewart put a hard block pass on Bogle, cutting straight across in a bowl berm and putting them both of them on the ground. Stewart got back going quickly, but Bogle lost a ton of spots and finished 14th—he did give Stewart a slap on the helmet before he got away, though.
But other contenders had it worse—like Blake Bagget and Kyle Cunningham who went down off the start and finished way back. You can’t win it in one race, but, well, you know the rest.
Justin Barcia felt like he rode tight, but he also rode well enough to take a win.
Darryn Durham led early and held tough against attacks from Barcia, Justin Bogle (49) and Roczen. He finished a solid second.
Kenny Roczen started about fifth, rode smart, and came out third.
Cudby photos
Results:
Monster Energy Supercross: Arlington, TX
SX Class
1. R. Villopoto
2. R. Dungey
3. J. Weimer
4. M. Alessi
5. J. Hansen
6. J. Stewart
7. K. Windham
8. B. Metcalfe
9. J. Brayton
10. K. Chisholm
11. B. Tickle
12. N. Wey
13. K. Partridge
14. R. Kiniry
15. D. Millsaps
16. M. Goerke
17. G. Faith
18. N. Izzi
19. J. Alessi
20. C. Reed
Supercross Class Season Standings
1. Ryan Villopoto, Poulsbo, Wash., Kawasaki – 158
2. Ryan Dungey, Belle Plaine, Minn., KTM – 145
3. Chad Reed, Dade City, Fla., Honda – 128
4. James Stewart, Haines City, Fla., Yamaha – 116
5. Jake Weimer, Rupert, Idaho, Kawasaki – 92
6. Kevin Windham, Centreville, Miss., Honda – 92
7. Brett Metcalfe, Lake Elsinore, Calif., Suzuki – 88
8. Mike Alessi, Hilliard, Calif., Suzuki – 81
9. Justin Brayton, Murrieta, Calif., Honda – 80
10. Josh Hansen, Elbert, Colo., Kawasaki – 80
The SX Class podium.
SX Lites East podium.
Cudby photos
SX Lites Class
1. J. Barcia
2. D. Durham
3. K. Roczen
4. B. Wharton
5. P. Nicoletti
6. M. Stewart
7. J. Canada
8. P. Larsen
9. C. Thompson
10. L. Vincent
11. A. Martin
12. H. Hewitt
13. A. Politelli
14. J. Bogle
15. B. Baggett
16. L. Smith
17. A. Pellegrini
18. S. Hackley
19. M. Lemoine
20. K. Cunningham
Eastern Regional Supercross Lites Class Season Standings
1. Justin Barcia, Ochlocknee, Ga., Honda – 25
2. Darryn Dunham, Butler, Pa., Kawasaki – 23
3. Ken Roczen, Murrieta, Ga., KTM – 20
4. Blake Wharton, Beaumont, Texas, Suzuki – 18
5. Phillip Nicoletti, Cochecton, N.Y., Honda – 16
6. Malcolm Stewart, Haines City, Fla., KTM – 15
7. Jake Canada, Sun City, Calif., Suzuki – 14
8. PJ Larsen, Murrieta, Calif., KTM – 13
9. Cole Thompson, Brigden, Ontario, Honda – 12
10. Lance Vincent, Youngsville, La., KTM – 11
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Wow everybody must be asleep- Oh never mind. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...
Hey WFD_UFO, still awake down is Australia. Bummed about Reed hitting hard. For being one of the older blokes is form was looking strong, pushing RV. Hope he's back on deck straight up. G'day to Jim in Tamworth NSW.
i think im obsessed with ms supercross. she's the only thing i can see in those two podium pictures.. goddam she's beautiful
In Dungey we trust.
The racing last night was fierce... should keep the reply board lit up all week. Way better than Linsanity! Wouldn"t it be something if Sport center talked about motorcross.
I have old man envy. Most of us would go to a SX track & look at a triple & think no way. Windham looks at that same triple & says "I wonder if I can jump at an angle off of this thing, across 2 or 3 lanes of the track and land on that landing 117ft over there, and just to make it harder, I am going to do it in the dark by the light of spotlight and flaming torches."
He has got to have the biggest, harriest cajones out there.
Yes, I know he takes a couple practice runs during the day, but really?
Get well soon Reed. It was shaping up to be an aawesome race until that trip over the bars.
Chad Reed's crash made me sad :-(
Wow, it was like 22 and 7 stole each other's stratagey for the night and it did not work out very well for either. Get well soon Mr. Reed.
Jake must be the nicest man on the planet for mean old Dungey to bully him around like that!
Looks like Villopoto can go as fast as he needs to when pushed, but pushing him is begining to look like a quick way to get a free ride in the *mule.
WTF Malcom.....over.
So the curse of fastest qualifier continues....... If I'm RV I sandbag qualifying from here on and take the 2nd gate pick. Can't believe Dungey is now brake checking with look backs (on Weimer), didn't catch it until the 2nd viewing. Anyone catch RC saying "looks like a timeout" when Big James had Malcolm facing the wall after the race? It isn't even like Bogle held Malcolm up, he had just caught up and without hesitation he pulls the old Malachi crunch. From podium to 6th. That's using the old noodle Malcolm. He might outdo his brother in the most dangerous man on the track dept.
Note to PeeWee Herman!!! If you're missing your jacket, Jeff Emig was wearing it last night. All he needed was the bowtie.
The Fab-five to start the season has narrowed down to two, unless Reed's injury was less serious than it looked. The way the bike was yanking on that leg was kind of bad looking.
Was that one Monster girl wearing some of those fake Halloween fangs? Monster is right.
Has Barcia ever made a totally clean pass, or does it just seem he always needs to do the block move? Not that they were dirty passes, but it seems like it's the only move he has.
endoman, I thought it was extra special that he went for a move or two and missed the guy's front wheel. He had the pass made so well that contact wasn't necessary yet he was TRYING to make contact and whiffed. Most guys try to avoid contact and it is unavoidable, he doesn't even attempt to make it look accidental. You would think LaRocco and his team would tell him to tone it down. How you win can be as important as winning is, from a sponsorship view. I don't know if any top rider has completely gone this route before but it is also interesting that he did his best to NOT do it in the 450 class last year. On another note, the West riders seemed to be way closer to the top 450 times than these guys were.
You don't want a Monster Energy Girl. All they do is ask how do I look, and it's all about me. Find a good girl that has a real job. Next when they get older it's the strip club, because they need the attention. Don't waste your time and money. You will be disipointed.
Yah JB seems like the slam block is the only pass he knows.. kinda funny that Haney was the dirtiest rider on the planet when he rode like that. So bummed for Reedy, clearly had the speed to match RV. Heal up CR.
Go to any of our Florida Dade City races and they bang bars, block pass, and get on it for sure. This is real racing, not ( O excuse me sir, may I now make this pass on the inside )
is it me or Dungey does not have a shot at RV2? RV2 will eat him in a closed race. dont getme wrong i wish he backed up his title against all the rest but seems like a LITES title to me (won when the others where out) any way...
And looks like the STEWART family has it in their blood to do stupid things
Note to little Stewart, Pull your head out of your butt, that move was STUPID, and your not fast enough to get away with it for ever.
Just wonder if Weimer moved over into RD line in the heat race on that fast rhythm section that put RD down? If so no wonder RD abused him. Wrong place to do that shit Weimer.
Now watch some people are going to turn on RV cuz he's winning so much like RD a few years ago, stupid.
Barcia does have a problem, he can't pass unless he touches you WTF. Your the champ, act like it.
Feel bad for Stewie. Hope he get it together soon.
Just a few quick items.
1. The RC vs. RV comparison cannot be done. RC caught the world sleeping when he brought the training and commitment. He had it easy for several years. RV has better speed, the technology has progressed, and the entire field has gotten better. In fact CR has had to elevate his game beyond what it was to be able to ride with RV. QED pace is faster.
2. Why in hell would anyone be wishing to have a take out move on the points leader? Or hate that he is a dominating type of racer?
3. As purely an observation and theory, IT would sem that the "Pace" at the front is being dictated by RV and that he alone is able to sustain it for 20 laps week in and week out. This could be an explanation for when he started at the back and climber to 3rd and 4th. Without him the leaders settle into a more comfortable pace for themselves which is slower. IT also may explain why the guys trying to run it are crashing themselves. Only RV appear to be able to comfortably sustain that pace.
ktflorida, yeah I've seen the novices go at it at the local races. Is that who the Pros are supposed to pattern themselves after? Maybe the better example would be what you see from Reed and RV the past few weeks. Or check out Bailey and Johnson at 1986 Anaheim on youtube. Contact is fine, blatant attempts at knockdowns is idiotic. It isn't even racing when one guy ends up on the ground. Did you enjoy the action between Durham and Wharton after Blake was sprawled out on the ground? It was awesome watching Bogle and Malcolm untangle themselves. So freaking exciting! Was so cool how his leg was stuck in the back wheel! The stand-tards agree with you, too! Hear them cheer! Yayyyyy, I've got mail! If that is what you like and want to see, stick with Dade City since it seems to be the norm there. Sounds like you're in your glory there, so have at it. Man, can't wait for the outdoors to start so we can have some real racing. This achey-brakey-check BS is for the turds.
your Dade City track is a hamster wheel .....heal up 22
O yeah, that move by little Stew wasn't even in the same league as Reed's take out of Stew last year and some of you thought that was just rubbin.
@Open Class ...no one was more focused on fitness and being consistent as hell as THE legend(( RC))...Johnny O and bailey were triathalon material in there hey day ????...Talk about major fitness.....
I don't approve of the Reed move, but at least James could have backed off the throttle when he saw Reed in his line (what Reed was expecting). Plus that was last lap desperation, not catching a guy mid-race that you could pass without contact. Bogle just got cleaned out, AND Mookie had the option of turning down toward the straight instead of straight across the turn. Maybe Mookie is also into that Dade City technique. Big James put Mookie in timeout against the wall, so even he thinks he made a really dumb move.
I have to apologize to the Reed fans, i actually found myself pulling for him last night when he was on the redheads ass, i really wanted him to make the pass and he was showing that he at least MAY have had a chance to do it. Then he goes down, damn i pull for one of my least favorite guys and he goes down...i'm a curse!! Nice ride by Dungey it was nice to see him get a little forceful for once!! Roczen rode much better in the heat than he did in the main IMO! The cloud continues to follow James ( i think it's the bike, HAHA)!! I do wish Malcolm would have made that pass without the contact cuz it appeared he had it anyway, great ride by him though!! I did think it was funny how the announcers kept replaying it and saying "look how he cuts across the line instead of turning his bike down the track"..wow, i didn't hear a single one of them say that last year when Reed did the EXACT same thing to James...oh well, spilt milk!! Ease up on Malcolm though, i don't think it was truly his intention, just caught up in the moment, sh-t happens!! Fun to watch all of it last night for sure!!
Are you really gonna justify it that way B-KR?? I guess i'm not surprised though, your dogging of the Stewart family continues. Spin it however you want but if you are calling Malcolms move BS, there is NO WAY IN HELL you can't call Reeds move the same....NO WAY!! Bogle should have let off then too, hows that?? That's ridiculous!
Last lap desperation is a bunch of crap.......everybody is trying to get to the front, all the time!! I think Malcolm was definitely at fault, but i'm not gonna criminalize the move!! Lets see if he makes it a habit first!!
Barcia can pound on people because he is fast but a geek like Weimer better pull over and let Broc by. The Dung is a nice guy but mess with him and you will get your shifter torn off.
Props to JS and CR for trying to match RV but is the pitfalls worth it? Props to RD for staying within himself and not crashing himself out of contention.
Boo's to Alessi for hissing about doubters because he finally got fourth place, I doubt he erases many doubters with that performance. Boo's to little Stewie for showing your lack of intelligence but massive amounts of disrespect.
As for RV, not much you can add to his title of "THE MAN".
Reed made a serious mistake trying to run with RV; out of his league, let ego get in the way and his season is over.
Mookie has the same 'entitlement' mentality we've seen in James. Too much money, not enough class.
RD will likely have th longest most successful career of all of them. Rides within himself, improves, no self inflicted injuries.
JS predictably takes another soil sample and drifts further into oblivion.
BamBam is fun to watch :) but will ultimately not achieve the greatness in him due to it. RC's right, "you'll need some friends out there someday", and he ain't got any.
RV looks solid and poised to win another supercross title, sad to see Reed (RV's only competition) go down, props to Chad for bringing it every week and going for the win. JS7 seems to have lost his flame, you can see it in his eyes. Barcia looks fast but a very D-I-R-T-Y rider, hope he cleans it up and becomes more respectable.
Sucks about Reed, Could have been a good race. Now Will the JS haters say Reed was pushing to hard/riding over his head??
At least Dungey and Stewart aren't blowing smoke up everyone's butt by saying their bikes aren't a main source of frustration and improvements have been made since the last race. Can't wait for James to move onto another brand.
Tough one for Reedy, who looked like he was just stalking RV. I like Dungey but he has does not like to be touched and takes it personally if it happens. Hopefully he'll watch the replay and realize it could have cost him 2nd place.
Mookie was riding hard and was in his first ride of the season on a new team. He was catching both Bogle and Roczen. I seriously doubt any of these guys wants to knock down their opponents as much as they want to screw with their lines and slow them down so they dont get repassed. What? No one hating on Bogle for getting all Frenchy and slapping another rider?
The lites guys just spent 2 months watching SX and were a little amped up to say the least. Can you blame them? I dont.
Why are people saying stewart took a soil sample? He ran into a fallen rider and stalled....did the broadcast miss him wrecking again? Should be fun to watch if barcia and lil stew get together in the coming weeks. bogle....hilarious smacking him in the back of the noggin....favorite part of the night....who hasn't wanted to do that to a moron who flat out wiped you out.
Cr was the fastest man on the planet last week,as in he put in the fastest lap time & passed poto near the end of the race. Last night Cr was again the fastest man on the planet,he has to & will get used to lettin it hang out. The guy,s awesome. And comparing `mookies` take out to Cr,s take out is completely dfnt. Reed & Stewi were going for the win & stewi,s the only racer Cr would`ve done that to. Won mistake is all it takes. Was anyone surprised when stewi ran into `saps` after he had fallen, seemed like there was no urgency to get his bike restarted. Pourcel,after passing poto,Cr,Rd & on was on Craigs rear tire, pulled outta the race & said that the yami 450 wasn`t safe,then Hahn did the same,can anyone other than James get near the podium on that bike ? Poto`s set the bar high,he,s an animal almost unbeatable since getting on the 2012 kawi during the mx ntnls. Before that Cr was dominating. As far as, was Cr pushing it,hell to the yeah,how else can a racer be faster than poto ? now whats the extent of his injury..did Stroupe quit ?
What I consider a good race and extreme entertainment for me is when RV wins by a mile like his heat race and main event win. Always when riders try to run with the Alpha males of this sport they end up on the mule. RV must feel like Larry Bird did in the shoot around when he looks down the gate, which one of you SB's is running for second.
Hey trucker, now it looks like CR is the fastest man riding the mule.
Did anyone else notice those "new" Fox boots getting caught up on the shift pedal tip? I haven't touched the boots yet, but when I see them I'm for sure looking to see if there is something on the inside of the boot that might hook something in a crash.
Murphy's law loves moto, if it can happen it will!
In 25 years I can't remember seeing a rider hooked to the bike, and last week Stewart and this week Reed, strange stuff.
i heard reed tore his acl
Reed was clearly pushing RV. Was faster in practice and faster in heat race. When CR put a wheel on RV and didn't make the pass, he lost a little time but quickly made it back up. RV was making little mistakes because of the pressure so either of these guys could have ate it. To say that RV could have gone at that pace for 20 laps is incorrect. One of them was going down. Actually CR looked smoother at that pace but made a slight miscalculation because the sand section was changing with each lap. Luck had a big part in that battle.
Some good racing lastnight,But to me it looks like JS7 needs to be on a another brand of bike,Those yammies do not seem to be as competetive as the other brands(sorry JGR)might have better luck on a husqvarna,just sayn,Roczen looked good considering being off the bike for two weeks,Bogle was a good showing till mookie made a mistake, By the way, Did bogle break his fingers when he high fived mookie up side the head,it looked a little painful by the way he was holding his hand,Was for sure a contact sport lastnight,Next week looks to be just as exciting.
I don't think Reed was riding over his head at all, he looked very comfortableon the bike. He reeled RV in a couple times, just watching where he was faster. Reed was riding like he did at the end of the supercross series last year and all of the Nationals before Millville. He finally got the thumb 100%, and just made a mistake just like RV did on his epic crash. Good racing and wish it didn't end like that. With that RV is an animal and really has this thing in a choke hold. But it can all change in a split second. Can't believe ESPN doesn't pick this stuff up, stoked to watch the bowling championships today!
These pro races have achieved their goal in marketing to me as a customer. My next 450 will be a KX or CR. No brainer.
Reed was on it and maybe on the edge, but isn't that what we have all asked of him throughout his career? Once he was out I lost interest and probably won't watch the SX class on Speed or in person ongoing. ( Lites East though should satisfy) Shame he is out as the series is over. 22 was the only one with a serious chance of unseating #1. With him and Trey out , the potential for a great series is lost. Dungey may win another, but not likely to challenge for the title this year. Good for #1, bad for the fans. Too bad. If I was Feld, I would be worried. They better make a super tech track that can help 7 get back going.
Hope we get to see 22 outdoors.
you guys have all gone soft , Racing Supercross is a high anxiety adrenalin filled sport , full of bar banging ,stuffing, take outs and general mayhem , when they all line up they know they are taking a chance of getting hurt , every rider out ther has been taken out , and has taken out someone , all you newbies would have never survived the 90s , Chicken , Bradshaw , Kidrowski , Laroco, They all rode like that , and we loved it ...
RV2 rides like he expects those little mistakes to happen from time to time, and (I suspect thanks to fitness by Aldon) he is very good at making micro-saves while riding at his limit throughout the race, not as good at it as Rickey or Bob, but then nobody else ever has been either.
Chad Reed's long career has much to do with his incredible ability to go very fast while managing the risks in such a way so as to always be there in the end.
He is now riding to win and making those little errors that come with pushing the envelope, perhaps there is a reason that winning championships in this sport is mostly a young man's game.
What was the deal with Peik and Dungey during their heat race that Speed was talking about.
the skull slap bogleukd. layed on stewart was awesome. use your grey matter JS.the reed crash was a big bummer he was really applyin the pressure. get better soon CR. RV is lookin so solid. he,s not crackin. awesome season so far BBBBRRRAAAAAAP. Go DH$
sorry meant bogle. fat finger. hah
reed could have won last week but the aggro rv got by.this week it looked like cr had the speed to pass rv was bidding his time let the laps count down.push rv into a mistake or pass one way or another for the win.a seat hop into a endo and getting tangled up with the bike hurt chads knee looks to me.i would not put it past him to race with it popping out once in a while that guy is tough!
@fred
More like what's the deal with Peick and Faith in the LCQ??? That must have SUCKED for Peick, finding out that you didn't get the transfer spot after all...
ROFL'd at Bogle's reaction...that made my day right there.
I can't wait until someone treats Barcia the way he treats everyone else, Talk about a dirty rider, making Hanny look like a cupcake.
Only because they didn't keep the camera on him, is Roxzen the only Lites rider he doesn't use another rider to turn?
And when will they get rid of the "lites" title and go to MX1 or something not so lame.
Lil stewarts pass was nothing like reeds last year, Stewart rode across the front of bogle and never turned to go down the track, bogle couldn't stop(T-bone). Last year Reed cam across and turned(normal blockpass) but instead of slowing down Stewart pinned it and took them both out(sideswipe). Both passes were chickenshiznit.
Ok...for all the guys on the RV fitness bandwagon.....If you are athlete in the top 1 percent of your profession and in the summer go 35 minutes balls out twice. I'm thinking you can manage 17:30 in a dome with half your time spent in the air with a track about as rough as a gocart track compared to any of the outdoor nationals.
Hope reed makes it back next week, and JS and Dungey don't start where The Alessi's usually finish!!!
The Timing says Peick, the camera says Faith.......the right answer would have been..........its to close to call so send them both to the main. Its not like there isn't enough gates to put them out there.
Well Done RV. Reed.., d@mn it -hope you're leg/knee is not damaged.Dungey's ride to the front (great 'end of moto battle' with Weimer) in the 450 class. Good to see Weimer hang tough with him, in 1st gear no less! Dungey doesn't believe his season is already over despite all the predictions. Reeds crash could shake things up a lot.
B.Wharton's ride to 4th in the 250 class (no mention of it or D.D.'s take-out of B.W. on the 1st lap) was very strong. 2nd best effort of the night (to Dungey's). Noticed Malcolm Stewart seems to need glasses and an attitude adjustment. Stewpid is as Stewpid does... Looked like 'big James' was helping him get his mind right. Did we hear RC say Malcolm was in a 'time-out' (like a little kid...) with his Dad? Funny sh!t, RC.
Barcia's 450 experience has tamed his banzi style down enough that he just might doimate the series. Ex-'mate Wharton will be strong too, along with Bogle. What's up with Baggett? Disappointment of the night.
I find it funny how everybody on here knows exactly everything that goes on with the riders (bike problems, crashes, training, etc. etc.). It's almost as if you're there in their set-up talking with the riders about every move they make. Get real guys and enjoy some great racing.
GO RV1!!!!!!!!!!
The race between Weimer and Dungey for 2nd was fantastic. Thats when Speed should have implemented the split screen instead of going to Villopotos' finish. Early in the sx race they split the screen to watch Stewart . This did annoy me; not because of the Stewart cam but because there was a hell of a battle going on for 1st which should have had all of the focus!
I was hanging on to the edge of my seat and I didn't care who won. This was going to be one hell of a race. Hopefully Chad will be ok. Its there any other challengers for Poto, or is he officially in a league of his own. Then there was this other thought about the little man in the green kawi jacket on the side of the side who threw the stick in Chads front wheel. The thing with Pieck and Faith threw me off too. I guess the Baby Stew and Bogle thing was just rookie mistakes. Bogle must have really felt the pain when B-slapped Mookie.
I think Reed was over riding the track a bit, I saw a lot of very tiny mistakes from him, such as his front wheel pulling a bit in the turns. I re watched it closely just to make sure and sure enough I saw them again. CR is probably one of my least favorite riders but I was definitely bummed that he crashed out, hope he's okay.
What Mookie did wasn't very smart but it appears Bogle has a bit of a temper and that will not help him, especially in the 250 class.
Baby stew HA ha LOL!
'Baby-Stew' ..., sounds like a Gerber's food-in-a-jar product we fed our kids when they were 1-2 year olds...
"Once he was out I lost interest and probably won't watch the SX class"
Stewie will win another race here and there so that will keep it interesting for me.
RD has nothing for either rider.
Whiner is growing up and proud of himself for 'fighting for the postion' :)
JS isn't really intersted in a race once he thinks he can't win; gotta be a disappointment to JGR. Even the announcers have gotten over their love affair with him; just too insconsitent to really be considered a contender. Hope he races outdoors, RV will absolutely KILL him.
That little Red Head RV is sure one lucky leprechaun getting all the breaks and beating all those faster guys. I hope he learns how to ride motocross soon so he beats your favorite riders fair and square. LOL
Come on Tracks, You quitten on SX! Reed would be disappointed in you. Atlanta prime time live next Sat. Night. You'll be watching.
Thought this season was going to be the best ever but it looks like its going to be one of the lamest ever (well maybe not...nothings worse then the Mcgrath runaways in the 90s). I used to despise CR22 and can't believe he is actually one of my two favorite riders now. Its too bad what happened to him so hope he's ok and can continue the racing this season. Hope JS7 gets his crap together and can make for some good racing with RV this season even though RV looks to have the title for sure.
Is there even anything in those Monster energy/Muscle milk containers that these guys pretend to drink post race? Do they get paid for each pretend sip they take? Looks absolutely ridiculous!
Reed's crash & "trying to stay with RV": Sometimes you crash because you crash. A certain amount is built-in to MX/SX. I thought he looked very comfortable and able to control his gap to RV pretty easily. Felt even smarter when RC and Emig were saying the exact same thing when.... Reed crashed. It happens.
Reed's Knee: Anyone who has had a truly bad knee injury (Div1 college wrestling) cannot watch something like Reed's crash and not almost double over. It displaces watching a guy getting hit in the crotch as the thing that can almost make you nauseous. Nothing funny about that footage. Ouch.
Barcia and slam-passing: They should take a page out of Pourcel's book... Whatever else Pourcel was or was not, he was the fastest when he was here and raced clean. CP tried to avoid him, but finally Barcia Bam-Bamed him once or twice. CP's response was to put him down a few times and Barcia quit effing with CP.
One of these was pretty funny at the time...I forget were, but once Barcia wacked CP as CP was gong by and CP lost time. CP got back on while Barcia is looking back and trying to get away. Of course CP runs him down and is close. CP didn't have to do anything as Barcia made some crazy "counter-moves" to the takeout he was sure was coming. He went down or ran off-track (I forget), and CP goes by looking over and shaking his head. I bet even Barcia laughed later.
@Tracks- I won't quit watching Supercross, but after Reeds crash, I got up and walked away. Now I have to watch it over because I missed the Weimer/Dungey race for 2nd.
Congratulations to Cole Thompson, finishing 9th (in the 250 class) in his first AMA Supercross race. GO CANADA!
Too bad CR 22 , man he was looking good, he was on it for sure this season. Cant stand watching Bam Slam ride, he cant pass anyone unless he hits them, but then that was everyone in the lites class, jeez wharton must be tired of eating dirt, i expect some payback from him, he certainly earned it. And little Stewie (lol) what a spode.Weimer and Dungey might be best battle rest of season, assuming Reed is out. Cant understand why anyone would bad mouth RD. Weimer needs to make smarter decisions.
Ever since ESPN dropped MX/SX and hockey I've not watched 1 second of there lame a$$ progamming,not even the all mighty X-Games,lol
Chad Reed Twitter:
"Not gona lie felt great to be apart of a 2 rider run away love racing with @ryan_villopoto2 u know your going to get good ole fashion racing"
Great comment from Reed. That is racing, what they have done the past two weeks. Not this garbage that showed up in the Lites class. Sad to see Reed go down, hopefully it isn't a season ender as he really was bringing it the past few weeks.
Sorry Whatever, I don't pay you mind anymore. You think I'm biased against anything Stewart and clealry you are biased for anything Stewart so you will always have a problem with me. I have a bigger problem with Barcia, so it isn't about last names, it's about how you act on the track. Mookie was getting the benefit of the doubt....now there is no doubt. He can redeem himself in many fans eyes, or he can go the road of Barcia and keep his few stalker-supporters and lose everyone else. Go Roczen, Go Bogle, Go Wharton, Go Baggett, go anybody that can ride without making the first priority contact with other riders.
RV and CR where flat out killing it!
The only two to get into the 46's and not else even broke the 47's.
CR had a .072 (not even a 10th of a second!) faster lap than RV and they both where almost 1.5 seconds faster than the third best lap.
WOW!
Dungey learn from KR he knows how to ride a fast race without crashing into other riders and breaking shifters I have lost all respect for you.. Mookie your dad should have kicked your ass.. if im Bogle im finding your ass in the pitts.
@Not4show.Thank you for the info.
Still upset about Reed.I feel like as if CZMark had hooked up with my girlfriend last nightJust sick to my stomach.I think I'm gonna go cry some more.
@The Chosen1 from Urazzistan.Hahahaha. Didn't you call youself MrMotocross at one time.
Congrats to RV for another solid win. He's most definitely on another level right now. If he keeps riding at this level, the title will get further and further out of reach for the other riders.
@ B-KR nothing wrong with a little brake check by Dungey to put JW in his place. JW made a move on Dungey in the heat race and is obviously carrying things over from last week. Dungey set him straight. Now, if Dungey get's the bike set-up he needs, a decent start, he'll be pushing RV just like Reed did last night.
@redrider21 All the riders have made aggressive passes. If you lost respect for Dungey for that, you probably didn't have respect for him to begin with and just want another reason to say something negative about Dungey.
RV, Reed, Stewart, RC, and McGrath have all made overly-aggressive passes so I guess you will lose respect for them as well.
I love how everyone is saying dungey has nothing for the rest of the field. HE IS 2ND IN POINTS!!!!!!!!!!!! Looks like he has alot for the other guys! Like I said, he may not win all the races, but after the rest of the field crashes out, he will be there, in striking distance. CR was riding on the edge of his comfort level last night. He is extremely fast, but he was letting it hang out to get the win over RV. As for Mookie, he was throwing block passes all night, did the same thing to Wharton in the heat race, but Wharton kept it upright. I loved it when big James put him in "Time out"! That was hilarious!!!!
Chosen1, you mean LaRocco was a racer??? justkidding. Yeah I've been watching these things for quite a long time and LaRocco was one of my favorites. He was always a hard charger and very rarely got into smashing into people, so don't even try making it out like he did. Not many of the greats did. Contact will happen obviously and all the greats would send a message when necessary. Keep your resume though. If you can't pass clean wins mean nothing. Kinda like winning a fight after throwing sand in the opponents eyes.
MC sending a message:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGcOUEp2eio
Respect to Reed and hope he heals fast. It was great to see old fashioned racing as us older folks remember it in the old days. CR and RV where flat out racing and it's going to be real sad if CR is done for the season. Have to admit, RV can take the pressure really well, but it sure looked like CR was playing with him yesterday.
I am not a fan of Malcom Stewart but after watching the move in slow motion a few times, it looked to me that Malcom was making the pass and Bogle turned too sharp and clipped the back of Malcom causing Malcolm to go wider than originally intened and causing them both to go down. I am not saying that it is either one of them is to blame. Just a plain ole rookie mistake made by both. Either way it definitely was fun to watch and makes us all foaming at the mouth to see what happens next week :)
Reed certainly wasn't playing with RV. He was pushing it! He wanted the win and it was edge of the seat right up until the crash. Unless Dungey can do something special really soon this could all be a formality.
Malcolm Stewart's "time-out was HILARIOUS!!! That too made my day.
Traveled all day, haven't seen it yet, but I hope like hell. my boy Reed is ok!! Sounds like he was mashing it!
Ripdown: Yeah, Reed was playing with RV. Easy to see. He would real RV in whenever he wanted to and just had a bad luck crash. Yesterday, Reed was the fastest guy on the track hands down, but as always, it's the guy at the end who takes the title that is the champion and it may even be Dungey if RV has a mishap.
ITS OVER BOYS!!!!! THERE IS NO POINT ANYMORE. REED IS HURT AND MOST LIKEY OUT. STEWART IS NOT THE SAME ANYMORE, AND DUNGEY.........................WELL DUNGEY NEVER WAS.
ITS VILLOPOTO'S SECOND CHAMPIONSHIP TO LOSE. SAY WHAT YOU WILL ITS BETTER TO WAIT FOR NEXT YEAR WHEN BARCIA HITS THE 450'S.
TheChosen1 I dought your Manly Men (What a joke) can run with our WMX riders, please stay home, save yourself the embarrasment!
@ klrman1
We agree to disagree. At the rate they were pulling away from the pack it's almost foolish to say anyone was playing with someone. You watch again and you'll see RV would inch away in most sections then Reed would close back up in the sand section with the triple he was doing. The same section that ended his night.
All the great riders have made aggresive passes , as a matter of fact , that is the way racing used to be , two strokes could slice and dice all over the track , that is how you had to pass , but now , one line with these lazy four strokes,and everyone is in it , Pay attention to what @thechosen1 says , The 90s had some of the best dirty riding ever , and it was fun to watch , now they just go round and round , ....funny comment about the blinkers ... is that what you all want ...
Yep. I too long for the days of exciting racing. The two strokes were point and shoot racers. You could go anywhere you wanted at anytime. Maybe I'm just getting old? Well actually I am.
@fred, your girl freind cost me $125.00 in food last night, so i will be dropping her back off at your house. I can see why you are crying. I thought TheChosen1 might be Euro Mike. Is there anyone able to step up to RV's pace besides Reed? Baby Stew was taken to the wood shed? ha ha
@Chosen1 - people seem to forget the Hannah - DeCoster slamfest during the 2nd moto of the '78 Unadilla Trans Am where Hannah's pipe was crushed. Even the greats traded paint occasionally.
So bummed to see reed crashed out at Dallas. I'd love to see the underdog took that win...
Tsk3x... I guess, that was RV's free ticket to championship. Unless he rode way over his head and crashed out too. But I don't see it coming.
Heal up chad!
Good point CR500AF! Racing has chaged alot since those days. Trading paint was part of the nature of the sport. If you wanted to get all up insde someone, there was bar banging going on. At the start of the season, we had 5 riders who could go the distance and make those challenges. Now it looks as if there is only one. They say it is lonely at the top and I guess RV will soon find out.
I bet CR will calm down a couple of notches if and when he gets back. I think he mentally psyched himself into doing things beyond his ability like that big Triple he attempted and missed.
A lot of you guys are just disrespectful assholes about the riders. I guess the anonymity of the computer makes you feel brave. Show some more respect, every single one of those guys could smoke your rears.
@BKR ...normally like your posts but your "dirty" riding takes make it PAINFULLY obvious you've NEVER raced the money class. Things are different there ,and sometimes drastic measures are taken. I remember Larocco knocking the snot out of people and so have the majority of pros. To say a pass with banging is not a pass at all and call the lites race crap is truly one of the stupidest posts i've read on hear ,and that is some feat. I raced the pro class over ten years and a clean pass to me is one where i didn't go down. I have come home from races with my arms black and blue from elbows. I have had my front wheel hit so hard it lifted me off the ground and I have put people off the track. What do you do when someone who is equally fast as you is in front and you want to get by but hes using all the good lines do you text him a nice note to pull over and let you by.Good luck with that and advancing to the B class. Its not dirty racing ..its racing and dishin the dirt is sometimes part of it. In the money class you do what you have to do.....and sometimes it ain't pretty and if you can't take the heat go cry to momma....shes the only one who will care. Bummer about 22 , Havoc7 now has nothing to lose and will be dangerous. Go RV Go Barcia and Go Wharton(dig deep man dig deep)
Ripdown: Yeah, I did watch it again and you're right, my apologies. Reed was catching him in the sand and then RV moved slightly ahead again. First time I watched it, it looked like Reed was playing with him, but they were both moving at such a blistering pace it was hard for me to tell first time around.
@ klrman1
That's cool bud. You maybe the first guy on here to ever agree with me. Haha.
That's just the way I saw it after watching a couple of times. Kind of a bummer really. I'm a big RV fan but I was enjoying that duel and it seemed like Reed was gonna keep him honest this winter. As much as I'd love for Poto to win this thing it's a lot more enjoyable watching him perform under pressure and Reed was certainly applying that lately.
Hopefully RD or JS van get their stuff sorted out and keep this interesting.
Haha B-KR, i would say that you just did "pay me some mind" by responding!! Not gonna get in to a back and forth with you as it is futile!! Proof is when you say that i "think" you are biased against Stewart, yet you say i "clearly am" biased FOR anything Stewart. Joke! I equally think you clearly are biased against because you never say anything remotely positive and bash every chance you get......WHATEVER!! I said above that it was obviously his fault but lets not hang the guy yet...how is that "clearly " biased for?? Once again, thanks for giving the time and paying me some "mind"!!!
I hope CR can make it back next week the racing has been great! I don't think any one else can match RV speed as well as CR has been.
As far as the lights go KR70 is the only one of those guys that can put on a good pass. I think the KR70 will giving JB1 fits as soon as he's 100%.
Get better quick CR22
Alphabetical order by last name:
Justin Barcia = Legend
Kyle Chisolm = Legend
Ryan Dungey = Legend
Davey Millsaps = Legend
Chad Reed = Legend
James Stewart = Legend
Malcolm Stewart = Legend
Jason Thomas = Legend
Ryan Villipoto = Legend
And the list goes on....... I can't believe I have joined the freaks on this forum, for shits and giggles I read all the "opinionated" rants from the highly informed dickheads on here who worship "insert favorite riders name here" and absolutely crap on any other rider that actually brings a race to them. Reed brings a race to RV and all the haters want to say is he crashed his brains out and couldn't hold the pace. I say good on you Reedy for making an effort, yes RV is impressive and seems the fastest this year but why should Reed sit back and settle for second he gets paid to race, he obviously loves to race and he wanted to win don't hate on him because of it.
Hey Open_Class why make the comment RV and RC's speed cant be compared and then go on to state RV's speed is better, sounds like comparing to me. Any argument about who is the fastest between the 2 is a moot point, we will never know they are different generations and never raced each other (des nation's doesn't count) so why discredit either ones accomplishments by giving your opinions. I have opinions but I won't bore you with them because the only person they matter to is me.
All the riders are class acts and deserve all the respect for there awesome skills on a bike. Some may be wankers of the bike, but don't shit on them if they try to make a race of it on there bikes. I thought that is why everyone watched and followed this sport, for some awesome racing.
Haters going to hate.