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Sign of the Lap Times: Los Angeles
Tuesday, January 24, 2012 | 11:55 AM
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PrintSometimes there are moments in sports, and to a greater extent, life that leave you breathless. As Trey Canard and Ryan Morais layed motionless on the track last Saturday night, there wasn't a person in Dodger Stadium or watching at home who's heart didn't skip a couple beats. Thankfully initial reports show that Trey and Ryan will make a full recovery. Thoughts and prayers are with both riders and their families.
When the gate dropped for the second time around in Dodger Stadium, veteran Chad Reed made the most of his second opportunity. Reed hounded Jake Weimer early, before putting on a hard charge and cruising home to his first win of 2012. The same could not be said for Ryan Villopoto. An early mistake would leave the co-points leader searching. But the Washington native would then put on a display of brilliance as he devoured rider after rider en route to a stunning fourth place finish.
Let's take a look at the lap charts to see how it all broke down.
AMA Supercross
| Lap Rank | Finish | Best Lap | In Lap | Avg Lap Time | Rider |
| 1 | 4 | 54.341 | 20 | 55.210 | Ryan Villopoto |
| 2 | 1 | 54.446 | 4 | 55.313 | Chad Reed |
| 3 | 3 | 54.565 | 11 | 55.812 | James Stewart |
| 4 | 2 | 54.750 | 9 | 55.502 | Ryan Dungey |
| 5 | 11 | 55.313 | 1 | 57.790 | Jake Weimer |
| 6 | 6 | 55.547 | 5 | 56.469 | Davi Millsaps |
| 7 | 5 | 55.674 | 6 | 56.473 | Brett Metcalfe |
| 8 |
8 | 55.849 | 5 | 57.007 | Broc Tickle |
| 9 | 7 | 56.000 | 8 | 56.594 | Josh Hansen |
| 10 | 9 | 56.120 | 9 | 57.088 | Kevin Windham |
| 11 | 10 | 56.360 | 3 | 57.176 | Mike Alessi |
| 12 | 12 | 56.420 | 8 | 58.191 | Kyle Chisholm |
| 13 | 14 | 56.489 | 8 | 57.836 | Andrew Short |
| 14 |
17 | 57.110 | 1 | 1:36.770 | Josh Grant |
| 15 | 13 | 57.193 | 6 | 58.107 | Nick Wey |
| 16 | 16 | 57.235 | 6 | 1:00.850 | Kyle Partridge |
| 17 |
15 | 57.333 | 6 | 59.971 | Weston Peick |
| 18 | 18 | 57.840 | 1 | 57.840 | Ivan Tedesco |
| 19 | DNS | - | - | - | Trey Canard |
| 20 | DNS | - | - | - | Ryan Morais |
For the second straight week Ryan Villopoto had to put together a championship saving performance after an early mistake. Villopoto was once again able to step up to the challenge, and set the fastest lap in the SX class in the process, laying down a 54.341. What made this performance that much more impressive was that Villopoto set his fastest lap of the night on lap 20! The competition needs to take note, because Villopoto is going to be a force of nature throughout the rest of the series.
It took a couple of weeks, but Brett Metcalfe is finally starting to find his form. Overcoming an illness earlier in the week, Metcalfe would put in his best performance of the season at L.A. Metcalfe has admitted that he and the team were behind in testing coming into the season, but it looks as if they found their momentum in the City of Angels.
Villopoto set the fastest lap of the SX class on lap 20!
Photo: Simon Cudby
AMA Supercross Lites
| Lap Rank | Finish | Best Lap | In Lap | Avg Lap Time | Rider |
| 1 | 1 | 53.915 | 1 | 55.514 | Eli Tomac |
| 2 | 9 | 54.380 | 2 | 58.291 | Martin Davalos |
| 3 | 2 | 54.705 | 4 | 56.415 | Dean Wilson |
| 4 | 19 | 54.889 | 5 | 56.117 | Marvin Musquin |
| 5 |
3 | 55.018 | 3 | 56.552 | Zach Osborne |
| 6 |
15 | 55.245 | 4 | 57.930 | Cole Seely |
| 7 | 5 | 55.773 | 8 | 57.340 | Jason Anderson |
| 8 | 12 | 55.844 | 2 | 58.880 | Ryan Sipes |
| 9 | 4 | 55.975 | 11 | 56.592 | Tyla Rattray |
| 10 | 11 | 56.010 | 5 | 57.654 | Nico Izzi |
| 11 | 8 | 56.487 | 3 | 57.216 | Matt Moss |
| 12 | 6 | 56.507 | 4 | 57.461 | Max Anstie |
| 13 | 7 | 56.673 | 7 | 57.781 | Michael Leib |
| 14 | 10 | 56.919 | 11 | 57.933 | Billy Laninovich |
| 15 | 18 | 56.948 | 4 | 1:00.538 | Gavin Faith |
| 16 | 17 | 57.616 | 3 | 59.881 | Nick Paluzzi |
| 17 | 14 | 58.244 | 11 | 59.160 | Teddy Maier |
| 18 | 16 | 58.249 | 2 | 59.454 | Scott Champion |
| 19 | 13 | 58.259 | 5 | 59.083 | Vince Friese |
| 20 | 20 | 1:13.705 | 1 | 1:13.705 | Travis Baker |
For the third straight week Eli Tomac would take reign of the lap charts by setting a 53.951. Unlike the previous two weeks Tomac was finally able to get a good start, and he quickly showed what he could do with said start. The GEICO Honda sophomore would not only get his first win of 2012, but would set the fastest lap of the night in the process. Just in case you misinterpreted that last statement, Tomac didn't just set the fastest lap in the Lites class, he bested Ryan Villopoto's 54.341 to set the fastest lap of either class.
Go ahead and purchase your tickets for the Michael Leib bandwagon, because this kid is looking more and more legit each week. After spending the past year and a half contesting the GPs, Leib is back and confident as ever. Although he missed the main at Anaheim 1 -- his first career supercross race -- Leib has bounced back with an eleventh and seventh in Phoenix and L.A., respectfully. Give this kid a couple of more rounds and he could be challenging for podiums.
Tomac took home fastest lap of the night honors for the third consecutive week.
Photo: Simon Cudby
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tomac is an animal damm
Tomac is the future!!!
Give Chad Reed the FULL credit if your going to give him credit, don’t leave out the most important details......You forgot to mention he passed and LEFT James Stewart in the dust Straight up ! THEN passed JW for the Lead....
Biker143....normally passing Stewart would be quite an accomplishment....but not this season! Just saying....
Dungey's average lap time was 55.502. I was sitting here trying to figure out how it was faster than Reed's, when reed won by a larger margin than he had after the first lap. Of course this is not possible, so I checked the official results, you guys credited Dungey with Poto's average lap time.
There is something wrong with the average lap time numbers. You can't have one guy finish behind another and yet have a lower average lap time. Divide the length of time for someone to finish the race by 20 laps (or 15 - lites), and the earlier the finish, the lower the average lap time. How can 'Poto have the same average lap as Dungey when they both ran 20 laps but Dungey finished ahead of 'Poto? How can 'Poto finish behind Reed and have a LOWER average lap time? It's mathemetically, physically, morally, existentially, and motocrossentially impossible. That's my story and I'm sticking to it!
HeinzGuderian, It is because the way the do it the first lap doesn't count.... For some reason its not important. They just count lap 2-20.
biker 143-- Reed was on a mission for sure those first 5 laps and took care of business right away, but I wouldnt say he left Stewart or anyone "in the dust" considering their best lap and averaged laps were only .3 or less of a second off.....Rewatch the race and James was actually closing back up on Reed before his fall, which obviously affected his avg overall.....He beat Stewart " straight up " (such a lame term) yes, but he didnt leave anyone in the dust... RV at A1 - that is leaving people in the dust my friend.....good ride for Reed...more action to follow.
Timing doesn't start until you cross the Start/Finish line which is generally at least half way around the track ( at least ) from the start gate. a lot can happen before that. Look at the animated pic from last week of the track and it will all make sense to you.
Ah heh, heh, HeinzGuderian. That was funny. Can I steal 'motocrossentially' and use it? You bring up a good point. Villopoto & Tomac certainly looked fastest on TV, but maybe an AMA Timing & Scoring Official could shed some light on their 'math'...
The Top 4 in the SX class all had about a second difference between their best lap and their average lap. That's impressive to me.
Spoke too soon. Sounds like the answer was just explained and validated.
http://cdn.racerxonline.com/21838_2012sx_3-losangeles.jpg
RV went off the track and got hung up on the Tuff Blocks on the big triple before the finish line two turns after the gate dropped. By the time he got going the rest of the pack was half a track ahead of him but from the time he crossed the line for the first time he was actually faster than everyone else.
Rewatch the race and James was actually closing back up on Reed before his fall.
Exactly "Before his fall" meaning he was riding over his head and gaining. Anyone can do that for a few laps. Thats why races are 20 laps. Reed smoked them.
nice job Reedy..........pretty impressive that RV logged his fastest lap on lap 20
@ codyw20x
Don't want to start a big debate but Reed rode well and benefited from a Red Flag cause RV was checking out early. This is the second time RV has been burned by a Red Flag recently ( both times Canard involved ironically ). Thinking RV has a hard time rebounding from these let downs.
Ripdown has it right- also factor in how far Reed backed it down on the last lap. Reed was on fire for sure, as was Villopoto. Dungey was quietly ripping fast laps too.
I'd like to know what Tomac would have done if that was a combined main event- He was fast, but he didn't look nearly as fast as Reed, Villopoto, Dungey, and Stewart. Was it the track breaking down that affected the time?
TOMAC!!
Back in the day dudes like Stanton and Ward and RC would log the fastest lap on the last lap. It showed they actually were racing to the line. That went away for awhile (probably the MC RC era has something to do with that) but it is back now. Awesome.
Great season so far. Still bummed about TC and Morais - Damned. Please let thatr be it for injuries.
Jake511 .........I would agree that the times would be affected by the track conditions deteriorating but I would also suggest it had a lot to do with Tomac being out front early and having a clear track...he looked like he was dialed in for sure...he was killing it. Also, I'd say the fastest 450 guys were in traffic for most the race. Not to discredit Reed but he isn't the fastest.....may be the smartest and most experience but not the fastest. Of course his savvy may win him this Championship!
yeah have to admit Reedy did get a gift second start........but it happens, you have to stop the race there to protect those guys on the ground........being a Reed fan i hate to win like that but inevitable there will be something that comes up by years end that doesnt go Reedy's way....hope not but thats usually how it works out....example him getting taken out accidently by Bubba last year after he made a suspect pass on bubba the race before......so things happen just saying.
Track was pretty tight. Eli could have made the podium in the big class!
Stewart was fast at times.RV caught him with 6 laps to go and was staying about the same distance- couldnt pass in 6 laps and you know he would have liked to. Dungey stays off the ground. If no fn mechanicals could be the difference in this years championship.
kryan523 and Ripdown - thanks. That's actually a good idea because after taking out the effects of the first lap carnage, it gives you a good idea of how people were really running for the rest of the race, regardless of where they finished.
GreenMeansGo - consider it yours.
RV on Lap 20 is the fastest time of the race and the best AVG also...RV is an animal!!! The other guys have goten a gift the last two weeks!! If RV starts in the top 5 they are toast!! LOL
motocrossentially, or motocrossically? I don't know.
RV didn't pass bobbles , IMO cause he didn't want JS to ride over his head and try to pass him back and take RV out in the process.
I cant wait until Jake W. gets his payback, JS didn't need to hold him up against the tuff blocks for as long as he did. That was cheap! but its why i love SX.
@ mo-tarder,,, uuummmm,, its called a block-pass. It happens constantly during a race.. Try NASCAR
@ mo-tarder......I tend to agree with you. I think most of these guys are leery of racing with Stewart.....I think they can all sense some desperation. To me it looked like RV settled in behind JS knowing he wasn't gonna get Dungey or Reed and tried to close the gap on the last lap where he may have tried a pass. He got close but ended up being a bit too late. To me it looked like he had the big picture in mind.
@ mofo....
Yep it was a block pass which is part of racing.....but block passing doesn't mean you have to run a guy into the blocks or put him on the ground.....getting put on the ground could cost a championship if you can't keep your bike running.
IN MY OPINION!!!! I find it very hard to believe that RV stayed behind Stewart because he didn't want to get taken out. Yes, RV rode like an absolute animal....Yes, if he rides like that and gets a start it could mean trouble....BUT, he IS Ryan Villopoto and if anyone really thinks that he takes the approach of whenever he is behind Stewart he will just play it safe and STAY behind Stewart, i think you are mistaken!! Ya, another lap and he may well have passed James for sure, but for those last six laps Stewart was riding pretty well and held him off.....why is that hard to accept for some people?? As much as some of you hate him, Stewart is no slouch!! I do not believe that RV purposely gave up the two points for some fear of being taken out....but that is just my opinion!! Hope Dungey gets his second win real soon!! @ripdown, block pass or not legit or not, Weimer fell over and did not get knocked over man, c;mon you see that move over and over again out there by the whole field, front and back....seriously, if it hadn't been him you wouldn't be saying too much about it, would you?
Hey Whatever.....I don't give a crap about the pass on Weimer! I'm just saying if you're RV......and you were hung up on Tuff Blocks watching the rest of the field ride off into the sunset.......you get going again and ride like a Banshee for the next 15 mins and potentially save your championship hopes, how eager are you to get in front of Bubba Trooper for the sake of two points? You just rode your ass off to neg-legate at 20+ point deficit! Not saying James would have taken him out purposefully but unless you've been on an Arctic expedition the last couple of years you'd know JS has an uncanny ability to not just take himself out but others around him. ie: last year when he neglected to let off the throttle and apply the brakes at the end of the whoop section and punted Reed over the berm and 6 ft down onto the concrete!
Safest way to race Stewart is to be nowhere near him....In My Opinion!
another indication that RV "wasnt" mailing it in was he set his fastest lap on the 20th lap,.......
I think the 20th lap is the lap he tried to make his move!
oh ok i understand you were saying he was hanging till the last lap to try to pass him so he didnt tangle with him i get it...............yeah now that i think about it more yeah that totally makes sense ...why battle and risk it
goog point......actually
good point i should say
at mxmofo - I agree with you its a block pass, thats why i love SX, read before you type. i only indicated JS held him up there longer than needed to make the pass, and thats why i cant wait for Jake to get sum pay back, its coming and i hope he sticks him up there and holds him till he falls. Its called SX.....it happens.
But Mo- tarder thats what JW was doing to Reed originally and actually slowing into the corner to try and prevent Reed from cutting under him....and in my opinion Bubba saw that and said to himself he wasnt going to let JW do that to him......it was fun to watch but im sure both Reed and Stewart where saying "WTH".....
sleestak- good point. I don't think i was a bad move for JS, i just thought he had the pass made, he didn;'t really need to hold him there IMO, but i understand why he did. good point.
A block pass is a block pass, but JS intended to take him down clearly.......watch the vid and pause, JS front wheel almost goes into the tuff blocks across the high line mid pass, there was nowhere for Weimer to go but down. It happens, and it will catch back up to him I'm sure. And we all know JS doesn't look ahead, he didn't do it because of Reed's battle with JW ahead of him. I agree RV waited to strike on the last lap and it just didn't happen, plain and simple.
@Ripdown........"Safest way to race Stewart is to be nowhere near him...."
Thanks for the laugh, it's been a boring day at the office and I needed that.
I was kind of joke-in about RV not wanting to pass bobbels (to a point) and run the risk of getting taken out (IMO). I do think RV was trying hard to get to his rear wheel and apply just a little pressure and let JS do the rest . But JS was riding real good the last part of the race lucky for him it was only 20 lap main. Hah!
yeah i was going to say i think Js's intentions where to send JW a message of some sort .......i know it sounds arrogant but im sure in JS's mind he was thinking get out of the way Rook....
Prop's to ET17 ! damn he is fast. To bad for Seeley! that hurts 15 place points, ouch.
maybe RV was waiting to see if James was going to make a mistake, and it never happened??
and that is way the last lap is his fastest, to try to take him at the last possible moment?
as not to have to defend his pass on him, because James would have tried to pass him back in the next corner??
Pretty funny debate about a dirty considering Reed also would have rode Weimer off into the tuffblocks had Weimer not let off....watch it again, he actually tried the same pass twice........Reed wasnt going to let off and if they made contact, Weimer would have got the sh*t end of the stick then too....RV was going after Stewart and Stewart held him off, so he must have been going pretty good........IN MY OPINION, and per Reeds own comments " James looked to be crusing out there" , I dont think Stewart really got going until 6 or 7 laps in....His fall, hardly from riding over his head IN MY OPINION, pretty much was at a complete stop and fell over....still a crash...but not a wild one....Dont forget, Reed has hit the ground each round so far as well.....
@sleestak - thats the first thing i thought when i seen it. Finished in front of JS once to many.
Again Im gonna say that Chase may study the lap times and lap charts more than I do? Yes bot Villo and Tomaoc are animals at Supercross. Some of you people need to understand that at the level they, and I mean everyone that makes it to the final 40 in both classes know that you have to !. Ride smarter 2. dig depper,only when you have to. 3Somehow relax and race the track and not think about other things.
Ya both RV2 and Tomac have it right now! I thought last year was good we may have it better this year!
May Trey and Ryan M. recover in good health !!!
LETS RACE!
good point tompound.....thats the argument, or the discussion. It's a valid question. Im curious what RV would say...or did he say something already ? Anyone ?
...also RV is my guy but he not always 100% mistake free either....Some friends of mine who were at the race saw RV have some issues of his own doing coming through the pack... he was riding really agressive for the 2nd week in a row and on the last few laps going after James he made a few mistakes, nothing major but enought to lose a few seconds to James, who was riding pretty solid after his dump over... your fooling yourself if you think he didnt want to or wasnt trying catch and pass James for that final podium spot.......
lots of racing too come yet, can not wait to see who wins this week!
I love how you dudes are mocking me for my caps on IN MY OPINION...can't win i guess...i only do that to make it clear that i am just stating my opinion and not saying it is the gospel in any way.....whatever!! I still totally disagree with you though Ripdown, so we'll just agree to disagree on this. @ Retardx, so then you are one who clearly thinks that Reed was attempting to take Stewart down in Atlanta last year, right?? Cuz Reeds front wheel was perpendicular to the track and James had nowhere to go but down!! Don't remember if you were one of those who said it wasn't a takeout, but if you call this one a takeout, i hope not!!
.....and how about RV's pass on Windham in Phoenix?? KW could have gone down from the CONTACT, but didn't, if he would have would it have been dirty?? I'm betting if it would have been JS passing KW like that the boards would have lit up!! Jesus, just let 'em race!!!!!!!
FINALLY A MENTION ON MICHAEL LEIB! That kid is for real.
Third time racing sx and he gets a 7th in the main.... thats impresive
RV didn't touch KW by the way, and held his line in the bottom of the corner. KW checked up and was left alone in the high line. Reed's pass was overly aggressive AND JS decided to get on the throttle into Reed. It's clear on video he saw Reed before he gassed it.
@ Whatever.....
Not the first time we've disagreed with each other. Not gonna be the last time either but that's the beauty of this forum. RV's pass on Windham was aggressive but clean. KW said so himself in a post race interview!
On another note......does anyone else get chest pain when they watch Musquin's crash? He was running really good, was really enjoying watching him and just like that he's probably out of it....bummer.
I don't agree with Reed on that one, but they both contributed to that crash.
yah the 170 looked fast out there i agree.....but i'll tell you what look out for 338 ZachO.........he reminded me alot of Poto when he first started in supercross......attacking every corner and feeling really confident on the machine.......i think Zach may of found his speed..
Regarding Tomac's fast lap being quicker than RV's... Tomac's was on lap 1 (did they groom during intermission?), RV's on lap 20. That means that between their 2 fastest laps, the track had 33 laps of Final Event on it. NOT the same track by the maximum number of laps possible.
Hey, I prefer the smaller bikes both to watch and ride, but it's a bit much to compare the lap times in this case.
Rumor has it that if Newt goes all the way, he's bringing back 2-strokes. Who knew he cared?
Why do these riders go to the outside when another rider is that close,they know what is coming.I never give up the inside line when somebody is on me.Take the block pass line yourself and don,t let them by on the outside.I know sometimes you need the outside speed to clear an obstacle but otherwise protect the inside.
I think karma got its payback on bobbles. If you watch where he went down after his "block pass" on Weimer, he ran high in a turn all by himself and ran out of track. I think the big man upstairs put a "block pass" on his but. Karma is a tough mutha!
Its soooooooooooooo funny that some of you still think RV didn't pass JS because he did not want to ( with 6 laps to go).
That has got to be one of the dumbest comments in the history of this website.
We are talking about professionals that get paid a lot of money to win not to stay behind another rider because they're afraid.
@whatever - not mockin' you man, thought it was a good idea to remind folks it is just your opinion..not truth or fact or gospel... I'm just trying to do the same....relay my thoughts on the subject at hand without someone holding a torch to my head because they disagree...but its all on good fun !!!..Opinions are like a-holes...everyone has one...I am a fan of all the riders...would like to see some guys win more than others....but at the end of the day, there is nothing anyone of us can do about it other than spew our thoughts on these boards and entertain ourselves until the next race!! James pass on Weimer was aggressive, no more aggressive than any other guy....Hanny drops guys all night long, they are just back in pack not racing for 2nd.....Jake didn't even know James was there....otherwise he could have avoided it....aggressive yes....dirty not too bad...Reed , RV and most the guys that were going forward would have made the same move....
It looks like all the haters are secretly in love with JS, whatever he does, good or bad, makes you all run to your keyboard.( I haven't seen a single comment on the guy that landed on Trey Canard, or anybody else that has crashed or block passed someone or anything).
Not only that but if you're lucky enough to have a race near you and got to it, I bet most of you will wait in line for his autograph, which are always the longest by far.
So give the guy a break and enjoy the races. The poor guy has enough problems with that blue POS.
I would love to see a really long whoop section, go look at 90's sx tracks had lots of them and they make for great racing
jimmyc261
Really? Where have you been? There's been way stupider stuff said on this site.....geezz
What people are suggesting, including myself is perhaps RV was thinking big picture....instead of getting into a bar banging match with Bubba. Especially after all the recovering he did coming from dead last. Wouldn't make a lot of sense to let JS run him into the blocks as he is obviously desperate at this point.
I'm quite sure Poto isn't afraid of anything.
jimmy.....perhaps you didn't notice all the booing being directed at Bubba Trooper in LA......me thinks his autograph line is growing a little shorter these days?
FTR.....Morais didn't so much land on Canard! Canard should never have been there....doubling a triple on after the second turn of a SX main event is certain disaster! Don't know what trey was thinking but he should have veered off the track and got himself out of harms way.....can't blame Morais
You all know so much...i can only hope to analyze what everyone is thinking like you all can one day...I dont even watch races anymore i just read what guys like BillC, KillMoto, Ripdown. RetardCross,etc say about their favorite riders and bashing anyone who isnt.
Well......if no one had any opinions or had anything to say there would be no point of having this forum and no point in you signing on to read. Therefore you are welcome.
@Retardx, are you talking about the pass on the last lap?? That is what i'm talking about and although it wasn't heavy contact, he most certainly did make contact with Windham. Listen, i don;t have a problem with RV or that pass on Windham, and i'm not defending Stewart till the end or anything, i just think that some of you guys are WAAAAYYY more critical of what he does than you are of anybody else....does that really matter?? Nooope! I guess it is futile to argue it. I hope the guy straightens things out and actually gets up front, keeps it on two wheels and battles for an entire race with RV, CR, and RD.....and as long as it's Dungey or Stewart taking the checkers, i'll be a happy man!! haha. Thanks for the clarification KillMoto, i actually thought maybe you were using it the same way i was, oh and your post sums it all up pretty well....well said!! It's all good fellas!!
@ whatever...........I'm saying this in about as calm of a tone as I can because I'm not trying to stir the pot anymore than it already is. Stewart fan or not people are more critical of his moves because he has left a trail of carnage and injured riders throughout his whole career. Yes, more than all the others, this isn't opinion. There is a laundry list of takeouts and injured riders caused solely by him. It's not hate, it just is what it is.
i'm confused, didn't poto get stuck on a tuff block on lap one? how does he have a better time than RD, JS, CR and just a tick slower than the leader JW on their first lap times? This just does not make much sense. Should have been a 1 min. plus first lap?
jaynbub
I think they have to cross the finish line first, and then the timing starts, it does not start at the drop of the gate?
someone help me out here.
WOW.... Tomac is on it, he is def the favorite in the tiddler class.
RV.... Two unfortunate breaks the past two races.
JS7.... I mean Bobbles, just loves the soil from the races so much he has to take a sample home every week.
@tompound Yes you are correct, lap one does not matter because it is not completely tracked.
To all that think it is possible RV was using his noodle in not attempting a banzai pass on Stewart, I tend to agree. First, he actually caught him with about 3 laps to go, not 6. He was 2 seconds back with 6 to go, not on his rear wheel. But that points to Stewart picking it back up after crashing. He was riding well. For RV to have passed him it would not have been an easy pass because Stewy was going good. The lap Stewart fell was actually about 12-13 seconds slower than his others, so do the math considering he was 8.5 seconds behind Reed at the finish. For the last 6 laps RV's laps were only a few tenths faster than Stewy's. Stewart will end up being the 2nd fastest rider on the track in the next few weeks, and I think will take it to Reed and Dungey more than a few times.
mo-trader,, I believe I can read.. You said the pass was"cheap." Which is just flat out ignorant to say.
After wasting 10 min of my life reading all this shit I think Whatever talks the truth the most. Man am I glad BillC is in hibernation cuz his man didn't win and lost the red plate.
Come on guys that pass happens all over the track. Do you ever watch the guys behind the front runners? Geez
I really don't understand why people hate on Stewart because he passes people. Lets go back to Vegas 09, Canard putting RV's bike on the other side of the track in the lites. RV's class act of launching his bike into J-Law in practice. Passes happen and rubbin's racing. If you guys don't like it go watch golf. Maybe Platex should sponsor this seasons and give all you women a discount.
And stew's interviews are becoming a lot more honest. no sponsor bullshit like all the other robots up on the podium.
Now this is what I call a takeout move !!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLVdcnu11GY&feature=related
Indeed it was Lime_Fish, but the karma that everybody speaks of on here got RV a couple laps later, and ended his season unfortunately!!
***It is not mathematically possible for Ryan V to have a smaller "average" lap time than Chad R.***
Nevermind....spoke to soon. Comments above explained it...
As RV fan I will throw in my 2 cents, Of all the top guys come racetime he has made only one mistake that set him back and I still havent seen why he went off the track in LA. Pheonix was Milsaps fault that cost ryan 15 positions. La was his mistake or ?
The guys that keep posting confusion over everage lap times. These times start at the finish line. There is always some track between the start and the finish line. this is not timed . Everthing is timed AFTER they cross the finish line. If it takes 5 min to get to the finish line the first time you can still turn in the fastest laptime average and not win the race. It happens almost every race in some fashion. In La RV went off the track and got stuck on a tuffblock and then turned in the fastest 20 laps of anyone and got 4th. Its simple and accurate and the way it is because they don't time the start til the finish, til they do it different its what we got.
PS I don't think RV was waiting to pass JS. I think he was riding as hard as he could and couldnt quit get to him in time. JS is an awesome rider and was riding his hardest to keep in front of RV and did. Rv gained just over 15 seconds on him in the race after his mistake and couldnt quite get it done.
On the topic of RV being afraid to pass James for fear of being taken out i have to say your response is spot on davidl!!! Nice to hear an RV fan who can make a sensible, honest statement. It's also cool that as an RV fan you are still able to do what is apparently taboo to most others and give James a little bit of credit!! Well said davidl!!