Rapid ReaXtion: Trey Canard Injured
Wednesday, December 7, 2011 | 1:45 PM
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Last night, we learned that Honda Muscle Milk's Trey Canard went down again with another injury—this time a broken collarbone. What might another setback mean for Canard and his team? Our editorial staff weighs in. Be sure to leave your comments below.
Davey Coombs:
My heart sunk when I heard that Canard got injured again. I didn't want to believe it because I like to believe that good things happen to good people, and #41 is definitely in that class. He's been through hell (though he would call it Hades) in the last couple of years with the femur breaks, and now he's got this on top of it. It kind of reminds me of Sebastien Tortelli, an amazing rider and all-around nice guy who spent what should have been the best years of his career struggling with injuries.
While it's too early to know the full extent of Canard's injury and how long he will be out, the damage is doubled by the fact that he was on the comeback trail as it was after his frightening crash at Washougal. Even if it's just six weeks on the sideline, these are six crucial weeks.
Honda may have a problem too: Do they move up Justin Barcia again or do they reach out to Kevin Windham? This broken collarbone could affect a couple of teams.
Jason Weigandt:
When a rider of tremendous talent gets lazy and fails to produce, we get frustrated watching such ability go to waste. But at least we emerge with a clear view or what's wrong and what's right in the sporting world—those that put in the work succeed, and those that do not, don't. It's much more frustrating to see a rider stocked with talent and desire not getting what he deserves. When injuries pile onto a guy like they have for Canard lately, we begin to question everything, like, "Why does this guy keep getting hurt?" and, "Why do bad things happen to good people?" And there aren't simple answers, which only makes it more frustrating. Canard has it all—he's talented, he works hard, he wants it, he surrounds himself with good people, he's a humble, funny, genuinely nice guy—he deserves better than this.
Unfortunately, it happens. Most forget now, but another red head that came blazing through the amateur ranks and showed great speed as a pro was also derailed by injuries: Broc Hepler. Hepler wasn't quite as outgoing as Canard, and he didn't land the championships that Canard has, so he wasn't as popular. But at his best, he was Canard-level fast, as he too was stocked with both talent and desire. Talent and desire should equal success, but Hepler just couldn't shake the injuries, and a long bout with a concussion eventually sent him into retirement.
Thankfully, while femur breaks are gnarly, Canard still hasn't suffered an injury that's career threatening in quality. It's the quantity that gets scary. How many times can a rider bounce back? We know the answer we want, but that doesn't seem to be the one we're getting right now. For the sake of all that is supposed to be right, heal up for good, Trey!
Chase Stallo:
It appears Trey Canard has suffered yet another major setback in his return to racing. Although a broken collarbone is not quite as devastating as two broken femurs in one year, it begs the question: Is Canard injury-prone?
This will be his fifth major injury in the past four years: broken femur in ’08, broken wrist in ’09, two broken femurs in ’11 and now this. The kid has speed to kill for days, but can he stay healthy for an entire season?
While I don’t think this injury will cause him to miss much time, although missing any testing at this point is a significant impediment—especially for someone coming off two broken femurs. Hopefully this will only be a minor delay in his recover and he will be on the gate come A1, because he is a major title threat… when healthy.
Ping:
Not again. I know it's only a collarbone but when I saw that Tweet come through my stomach dropped. After bringing his broken femur tally to three last year I hoped he would be able to stay healthy for all of 2012. After all, Trey is one of very few riders capable of winning races every time he lines up.
It can be so discouraging when injuries just keep coming one after another, the way they have for Canard. Hopefully this doesn't slow him down too much. The bad news here is that he obviously won't be racing the opener and his championship hopes are all but dashed. Plus, I'm a stress eater and this injury to my favorite rider could mean an even thicker layer of "Holiday weight."
The good news is that collarbones are a pretty simple fix and it won't keep him off the bike for long. Once the plate is screwed in the bone itself is stable. It will just be a matter of waiting for the incision to heal and dealing with the pain. My biggest question is: Now who am I going to cheer for at A1? Get well soon, Trey.
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He'll bounce back, don't forget that Villopoto ended his first two years on the 450 with injury.
So disappointing for everyone, Trey, his team & all the fans. Hope he has a speedy recovery but A1 is in a month away. Has to find that tiny place to level out & not go over the edge. Good luck Trey!
Just a question... and I don't want to start a huge religious war on this comment board... just want to understand
When Trey is on the podium he always thanks the lord first for keeping him safe. When he crashes and has these injuries, what is the thought process? By default it would seem to mean that the lord wasn't keeping him safe this time? I don't understand the logic of "faith" keeping you safe versus your own talent and ability keeping you safe.
Just wondering...
Reminds me of Doug Henry, Bad luck seems to fowell some.
Kxpwr18 i know what you mean, Its easy to question God when you see some of the things that happen in the world.
When a mistake is made on something that has no roll cage and the force of your body hitting the earth something has to give in the human body. He is not injury prone. His is not stepping off a curb and breaking his ankle. His is flinging his body 30 feet in the air while going 40 mph. Something has and will give. It happens to everyone at sometime that throws their leg over a dirt scooter
Betting he'll be on the line for A 1
Wow, two Sling Blade references in less than a week (Ask Ping and DC "Hades" comment). Hopefully Trey wasn't approaching a jump face only to find out that the bike "aint got no gas in it". I'll stop now.
I think the tough part would be the mental side of coming back from so many injuries. So far, he's come back just as fast each time, but makes you wonder how many times he can do it.
I've kind of questioned the "God keeps me safe" line that many of the riders use, as well. He Bible doesn't say you'll have a comfortable and safe life by following Christ. It would be the opposite of that, if anything.
Yea why the saying he out for A1.. it only a clavicle, couple of screws and a plate and he should be back in full swing in two weeks or 3 at most!
He can be back on the line for A 1, doesn't have to be 100 % and can at least stay in a points position
Kxpwr18 - If you study the Bible the most faithful of people went through tremendous suffering in this world – look at Jesus himself – Trey’s faith is demonstrated by his injuries, not the fact he gets hurt (which I don’t believe is an act of God – God does not cause pain and suffering he is a God of love) but by the fact he gets back up and praises God and is not allowing evil to triumph in his life… MX will only last a few years in Treys life, eternity will last for ever he has his priorities correct.
I don't think your comment was derogatory in a way kxpwr18. I'm curious on that as well- I think that God gave him the talent and that is what is keeping him safe in that environment. When something happens, it's Trey (or his bike, or another rider, etc.) that makes the mistake. The only person I see that is as aggressive and scrub's that hard is Stewart and Barcia- I honestly don't see how those two remain relatively injury free.
I really thought that this would be his year- it still might be.
*in any way*- Damn!
Barcia to East Lights, then move him up to fill in for Trey in SX class on the West Coast. Done...
Kxpwr18- first off, God gives you your talents, God gave trey the ability to become an awesome motocross rider. Second, He did keep him safe. trey is breathing and ok right?
When people are up with Jesus, they sing his praises on the podium and fall silent when they get hurt or lose (or say "This injury is God's way of challenging me"). I'm not saying that it's a good or bad way of looking at things. Having strong faith I'm sure helps keep some people upbeat during hard times. But I could see it seriously affecting someone negatively if they put their faith in God to protect them and they are constantly being beaten down.
I think with his drive he'll be back with a vengeance. Doug Henry crashed one year at buds creek breaking his back, the next time he lined up there he broke both arms, and the following year won the tiltle if i'm not mistaken. good things will come with his determination.
I think they'll move Barcia up and give the 250 ride to Decotis.
Replace him with Fiolek for the short term.
I think I have a better question for Trey to ask himself. Why did I crash? was I being lazy, was I taking to big a risk? Now what does his coach advise get back quick and stay at the same level or do you come back it of a notch and complete a whole season with consistency. IMO he needs to back it down a notch and get back to 100% and be consistant. even if thats a 5th. Trey's fast we all know that he just needs to stay health.
Get better soon 41
I think Everts raced only 1 week (?) after breaking his collarbone?
Two weeks at most. Plate it, screw it, and gut through the first two races Trey. The championship isn't won at A1 but it can be lost there.
i broke my collarbone paying rugby and didint even know it, kept surfing and riding like nothing happened, hopefully it wont affect him too much
remember trey, patience and perseverence!
I've had the same thought process before about when someone wins they thank the heavens for keeping them safe but when they get hurt its just the lord trying your faith or whatever. Im pretty sure the lord could care less about who wins or loses (im sure he has other more important things to worry about). Its an interesting topic because i've had a couple very good friends (and very good people) get killed in car accidents and if you asked faithful people about it they would say something like "well they were needed more on the other side" or something like this. So your telling me that out of all the billions and maybe trillions of peole that have lived and died, not one of them could do whatever it was that so and so would be doing on the other side? Its just one of those things that we will never quite understand. I think that crap happens no matter who you are but if it makes you feel better about yourself to think that god is watching your every move then more power to ya.
I'm no orthopedic sergeon, but I have sent ones kids to collage. It all depends how badly its broken,. When I shattered mine, they could not operate until the swelling in my chest subsided, it was about 2 long weeks of heavy narcotics,. Then the surgery to plate it, screw it (6), and dig the bone shards out. It depends how badly, I hope he's on the line at A-1 but if she's a doozy, maybe not. Get well trey, that sux, big time.
If its a simple break, with a plate he will def be at A1. I broke mine in half when I was 27, and was riding in 4 weeks. Milk and Antler Velvet ..........MIlk and Antler Velvet.......www.plaguemx.com
Courage, courage...
Get well soon Trey!
Bummer about Trey. Trey is a serious racer as well as a faithful follower of Jesus Christ and does his best to show honor towards Christ no matter whether things go bad or good. Good and bad happens to everybody no matter who you are but for a believer in Christ, Trey understands to praise God in everything. Sometimes it doesnt make sense to those who dont believe but if you read a little of the bible it will become easier to understand. Godspeed Trey!
Passage from Bible that may be relevant: "I returned and saw under the sun that - The race is not to the swift, nor the battle to the strong, nor bread to the wise, nor riches to me of understanding, nor favor to men of skill; but time and chance happen to them all." (Ecclesiastes 9:11). I'm guessing Trey knows this all too well. Fortunately, it sounds like he also knows that life "under the sun" is not what it is all about.
Forget about Barcia or Kevin moving up. They need to look at somebody like Tommy Hahn, he's a good riding and give him Trey's bike for a couple of race's since he's already riding a Honda as a privateer and let him see what he can do. And if he does good there's another rider they can give a little support like they did Reed last year.....
Lareins nailed it. Good call- Windham has the same bike already anyway. Hopefully Hahn for sure.
Give a call to Nick Wey if you need a solid rider to keep the bike in the news. Nick is good for sales.
@Oshow 11.Great choice.Maybe that will answer everyones questions.
@jd805. They won't have to give Barcia's 250 to anyone.He is probably going to defend his east coast title.
Honda: Do yourself a favor and pick up Thomas Hahn
daaaaaammmmmmiiiittttttttt man, heal quick trey, now my picks are all mud.
man that sucks trey is a boss on a dirt bike and has the one of the best scrubs which sucks cause it looks like we wont see him or his scrubs for abit longer. All these injuries you begin to wonder where his mentality is at
decotis already has a ride on the geico team for supercross this year. i doubt they would move barcia up because he is trying to defend his 250 title. and as far as some people saying he wont be at A1, i wouldnt count on that. he will be good to ride in a month when A1 comes around but whether or not he will take some extra time to rest or train is the question. im thinking he will line up at A1 though to score some points
Being a graduate of a Christian Univesity, I find that people fall back on religion, and they should concentrate on their sport more. Most athletes have no idea what they are saying, as it just becomes somthing they are programed to say. I do not like the fact there are organizations such MX for Jesus that hides the fact these guys have their racing paid for by God. People are not fooling God, or are they fooling us, just get real and get back to racing do your thing and move on. What works for you, if praying helps then do it.
I'm not counting him out for A1 either. Collarbones can heal quickly for young athletes, especially if you get a plate on it. I think Trey will be there if at all possible.
Talked to Trey at Pala and asked him if he would be ready for Anaheim. He gave me a maybe kind of answer. I was not too happy with that answer. This new injury makes me think he will not line up for Anaheim. Trey is such a great personality in the pit area that it makes me want to scream that he seems to be injury prone.
I truly wish him the best of luck for 2012. God Bless you Trey!!!
Bummer. Just yesterday I was watching the video that just came out of Trey getting back on the bike. As I watched him go thru the whoops, i was thinking to myself, "I wonder why these guys practice on such gnarly whoops while training and testing in the off season? It seems like additional risk. I'd consider limiting the whoops". I know that you've got to test in the whoops, but they are real risky.
THen, the n ext day, I read this report. I am so bummed for Trey. He'll be back though.....you just watch.
Do the right thing Honda - put TOMMY HAHN on that bike. You will be glad you did!
Because of Trey's faith and what I know of him and who he is in Christ, he is thankful during this time, because he has faith. Faith is believing, without questioning the good or bad or the crappy situation. All things work together for our good and His glory. Thank you Lord for Trey's faith in You.
Love ya Trey.....Keep your head up and heal fast. Look to God for strength in this and you will come out on top.
Tommy Hahn. Healthy, Privateer, Riding Hondas already, Rode for factory Honda before, Fits Hondas profile of nice clean cut guy and flat out fast and is basically waiting for someone to call him. What are you wait for?
This is the longest comment list i have ever seen. GET WELL SOON TREY
i agree with Mc Moto he will be at A1
MAJOR dissapointment and feel bad for the guy but there is now other way to say it and as I have siad it several times... the guy looks frail and is indeed frail. Remember the days of Canard and Stroupe beign the top guys in amatuers? While both are blazing fast, both are injury proneas well.
If Barcia gets on the 450 at A1, he and may never see a 2250 again as it appears he is both durable and rides a 450 better than a 250 anyways
Did anyone even consider that maybe Trey breaking is collar bone was Gods way of giving his femur a little more time to heal?
Just sayin......:)
First,
Trey, though incredibly talented, IS accident prone. the stats demonstrate the facts.
Second,
Long bone or short bone, healing takes approximately 5 to 6 weeks for most anyone.
A plated bone is not as strong as the healed bone, and after healing, the plate and screws causes stress risers that a bone alone does not. All professional athletes, regardless of their sport should if possible, have all implants removed after complete healing to minimize the danger of the next injury breaking bone and implant or breaking the bone and bending of the implant.
Third,
Supernaturalism has never been found to have any effect on race outcome or rider health. Maybe you believe it does, but maybe you believe you're the next RV too.
See you at A1, here's to a fantastic, injury free SX season
I hate to see any rider injured. I've become a TC fan as he seems like a genuine good and humble person. As for the whole "Keeping me safe/man upstairs/wanna thank the Lord..." thing, everyone's free to say and believe what they wish. As an Atheist, I believe the only thing to keep me safe is my behavior and when that fails, some good protective gear.
So Davey's heart sank, and Ping's stomach dropped?
I saw Stewart's tweet and my heart rate maxed out instantly.
Then I dry-heaved for 10-12 minutes.
Redneckrider wrote: "Did anyone even consider that maybe Trey breaking is collar bone was Gods way of giving his femur a little more time to heal?"
OMG!
That reminds me--remember when Canard had that highlight-reel crash at Los Angeles where he went over the bars and his bike came flipping down and hit him in the back and sent him sprawling forward? THE BIKE TOTALLY PUSHED HIM OUT OF THE PATH OF THE DUDE BEHIND HIM! Trey would've been CRUSHED to DEATH if the Honda hadn't intervened. Hallelujah!
Is it just me, or does there seem to be "much ado about nothing." Don't know about any of you, but I have broken my clavical(s) several times (the last time breaking my right clavical in two places, one on each side of a previous break) and it never kept me out for more than six weeks on the long side.
I have a feeling Trey will be back before it really sinks in that he was injured and Honda will not feel the effects of a downed star rider.
I could, however, be entirely wrong.
K.Fine
MX Innovations
sounds like he needs to drink more milk
@tpayne RE "Supernaturalism has never been found to have any effect on race outcome or rider health."
Really? I would like to know where you found that little bit of information. Who did the study? How are you the expert by making such claims? Please qualify your idiotic statement.
However it has been proven that keeping a positive attitude, and visualization do work. Not just for moto but all sports and everything else as well. For some riders part of getting that positive mindset includes believing in God, or something bigger than themselves. So how can you make such a stupid statement?
BTW, just for the record, I am not a religious person at all. Pretty much an agnostic.
sucks for trey
@redneckrider, the lack of proof (a negative) of any "supernatural effect" is not a claim, it's an observation. A claim would be a positive assertion that there IS supernaturalism affecting race outcome. The onus is on those who would claim unnatural (supernatural) effects.
You are absolutely right about the effects of visualization and positive attitude. These are testable and are shown to have a measurable effect, but they are not supernatural, even if a believer is doing the visualization.
The "idiotic" and "stupid" comments really hurt my feelings, I may start drinking early today.
@tpayne, very well stated and thought out response. I agree with your response 100%. I called your comments idiotic and stupid to hopefully get you to think just a little broader and then quantify your position, which you so eloquently did. Nicely done.
I'll buy the first round! CHEERS!
@redneckrider,
Well, the truth is you didn't really hurt my feelings cause I like your posts. But thanks for the toast! Now, give me you insight on west coast lites. Can Pro Circuit run away with it yet again?
@tpayne. I am not even sure who is riding which coast this season. I will say this though: Whichever coast Roczen is riding, everyone else will have their hands full. As long as they can get his bike to handle better than it did at the MEC.
Pro Circuit will be formidable on both coasts. Their website doesn't show who is actually on the team for 2112 and which coast they are riding. It still shows Hansen on the roster and I believe he has moved to the Hart & Huntington team to share bongs with Josh Hill since Lawrence isn't there.
I'm originally from the Holy Land (50 miles from where Jesus used to waterski), and I'm tellin ya, God loves to push those Gingy's to the limit. RC, RV and now TC got hit at their prime, but always manage to prevail! Maybe they just look rusty from above and he tries to shake'em down...go get'em Trey!
"Redneckrider wrote: 2:09pm December 11, 2011
Pro Circuit will be formidable on both coasts. Their website doesn't show who is actually on the team for 2112 and which coast they are riding."
Wait a sec...you wanna tell me Mitch already have riders piled up all the way to 2111? They must have another trailer to hang all those #1 plates... I hope Pourcel grand grand kid will get the salary he's going to ask for! :)
I'm originally from the Holy Land (50 miles from where Jesus used to waterski), and I'm tellin ya, God loves to push those Gingy's to the limit. RC, RV and now TC got hit at their prime, but always manage to prevail! Maybe they just look rusty from above and he tries to shake'em down...go get'em Trey!
"Redneckrider wrote: 2:09pm December 11, 2011
Pro Circuit will be formidable on both coasts. Their website doesn't show who is actually on the team for 2112 and which coast they are riding."
Wait a sec...you wanna tell me Mitch already have riders piled up all the way to 2111? They must have another trailer to hang all those #1 plates... I hope Pourcel grand grand kid will get the salary he's going to ask for! :)