by Adam Wheeler
Racer X Race Report: Grand Prix of Great Britain
Monday, August 22, 2011 | 10:40 AM
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The British Grand Prix escaped the threat of a notorious English summer and the packed Matterley Basin circuit saw the factory Red Bull Teka KTM duo of Tony Cairoli (MX1) and Ken Roczen (MX2) grab victories together for the third time in thirteen rounds in 2011; Cairoli taking the 350SX-F to his fifth success and Roczen his seventh for the year and sixth from the last seven events.
MX2 World Championship standings after 13 of 15 rounds
1. Ken Roczen (GER, KTM), 590 points;
2. Jeffrey Herlings (NED, KTM), 547 p.;
3. Tommy Searle (GBR, Kawasaki), 479 p.;
4. Gautier Paulin (FRA, Yamaha), 425 p.;
5. Arnaud Tonus (SUI, Yamaha), 353 p.;
6. Max Anstie (GBR, Kawasaki), 342 p.;
7. Zachary Osborne (USA, Yamaha), 295 p.;
8. Harri Kullas (FIN, Yamaha), 287 p.;
9. Nicolas Aubin (FRA, KTM), 242 p.;
10. Joel Roelants (BEL, KTM), 226 p.;
In terms of the championship picture these were crucial triumphs with two rounds and 100 points in Germany and Italy (coming up in the next three weeks) left to run. Roczen is close to becoming the first world champion for his country for 43 years (since Paul Friedrichs on a CZ in 1968) with a 43-point margin over teammate Jeffrey Herlings who faltered in the UK with a qualification crash on Saturday that left him deep in the gate-–he was fourth overall. Cairoli was by no means the quickest rider in England but grasped that vital second moto in a day of incident and drama. CLS Kawasaki Monster Energy Pro Circuit’s Christophe Pourcel delivered a sharp slap to the face of his critics with a performance right out his 2006-07 era and admitted that he was actually enjoying GP racing again, while Monster Energy Yamaha’s Steven Frossard will wonder quite how he didn’t win his third meeting of a fantastic rookie campaign in which he is now second in the standings and trails the imperious Cairoli by 82 points.
Steven Frossard went 2-2 for third overall at the British Grand Prix.
Photo: Ray Archer
There was no surprise when Matterley Basin, host of the British Grand Prix for the second time and as an FIM Motocross World Championship venue after its inauguration in 2006, was given the thumbs-up as the best track of the season so far. “I opened the motorhome door and was like ‘wow, this is something special’,” said Roczen. “The jumps are big, but we can do them on a 250, it is fast but wide and a lot of fun.”
Five of the first twelve riders in the MX1 standings were on the sidelines for the trip to the UK. Four factory racers, Desalle, Philippaerts, Ramon and Bobryshev are out for the season with two injured in a Belgian Championship smash, one in a training fall and another from the GP of Limburg earlier this month. The absence of Desalle (broken left shoulder) and Bobryshev (cracked C7 vertebrae) brought to light the hazards of non-Grand Prix competition. It was no surprise to hear Honda World Motocross team manager Lorenzo Resta proclaim in Saturday’s press conference when Honda confirmed Goncalves and the Russian for another two years and also dropped hints about an innovative new CRF450R due to arrive in the next two months that they would be seriously reviewing the need for their riders to contest events outside of the world championship schedule.
The first MX1 moto saw a duel between Frossard and Pourcel with the former leading most of the way until he stalled the radiator-shroud-less factory Yamaha in a corner and Pourcel had the breather he needed for his first GP chequered flag in five years, and first race win since Unadilla in 2010. The track and better starts certainly helped Pourcel who provided a timely reminder of his talent already on Saturday with pole position, using that smooth, contained speed and invention with lines that nobody else would run.
It had been five years since Pourcel last won a moto on the GP Circuit before winning moto one in Great Britain.
Photo: Ray Archer
The paddock drew a sharp breath after fifteen minutes of the second moto. Frossard was out front leading comfortably from LS Honda’s Shaun Simpson and new teammate Carlos Campano (the 2010 Spanish MX3 world champ deputising for David Philippaerts on the factory Yamaha and who would equal a career-best finish) only for the race to be stopped after a sickening collision between Tanel Leok and inspired wild-card Billy Mackenzie. The Scot, who is now plying his trade in the Australian series, had animated the home crowd by holding an unlikely third spot for half of the first race but could not avoid the Estonian who had tripled the quad while the Kawasaki rider had gone the full distance. Mackenzie looked unconscious from the impact with the TM and the Youtube video clip is almost as startling as Chad Reed’s recent memorable ‘flight’.
Moments earlier Xavier Boog was hospitalised with a possible vertebrae fracture that was later a false alarm. Mackenzie thankfully (amazingly) had no broken bones and an update with Leok is still pending but it seemed a sore back and concussion was the worse. Leok and Boog could potentially extend the injury crisis in MX1 come Germany.
The restart involved the full 35 minute and 2 laps duration and it was perfect news for Pourcel who had come up short on a table top on what he said was a ‘stupid’ crash on the first lap, damaged the KX450F and was storming through the paddock to his car when the team chased after him saying he had a second bite of the cherry. A rushed period of prep and 377 was behind the gate again; unfairly or not is a point for discussion. The ‘third’ moto was bad news for Simpson and Campano who did not reach the dizzying heights again and also Frossard who by the time he had dealt with Pourcel had to watch Cairoli escaping with the holeshot and overall; the Sicilian’s 3-1 outweighing Pourcel’s 1-3 and Frossard’s 2-2. Max Nagl was distant in fourth overall and newly crowned British Champion and GP wild-card Brad Anderson emphatically justified his Team GB MX of Nations berth with a hard-fought fifth.
The MX2 races were not nearly as watchable with Roczen in a league of his own and the main interest falling to CLS Kawasaki Monster Energy Pro Circuit’s Tommy Searle with his 2-2 run. The first moto charge from twelfth had the crowd cheering with every pass. “It was a great feeling,” he said. “I had to come back from twelfth and each time I made a pass I could hear them. At one point I had pins and needles; it was great to be a part of that.”
Searle finished second overall behind Roczen over the weekend.
Photo: Ray Archer
Technical problems ruined possible podium finishes for KTM’s Joel Roelants and Suzuki Europe’s Valentin Teillet while it is rumoured that the third member of the works KTM set-up, Jeremy Van Horebeek, has injured his shoulder for the third time this year. Team Belgium manager Joel Smets must be wondering where he will find a team for September 19th. Monster Energy Yamaha’s Gautier Paulin made the bottom step and the box for the seventh time in 2011 and this was due to a resilient pick through the field to 4th in the second moto after a start that left him outside the top thirty. Max Anstie will undoubtedly sleep well after this meeting, after a blown engine on Saturday meant last pick in the gate and he worked all day long off the radar but diligently to take eighth at his first home Grand Prix.
Zach Osborne was expected to be back in play for his Bike it Cosworth Wild Wolf Yamaha team’s home event but his shoulder is still not sufficiently strong to consider a return to the bike.
The old school Gaildorf circuit will be another cauldron of attention for Roczen in two weeks time before the breath-taking setting of Fermo will bring the championship to a close for the second year in succession.
Roczen dominated once again. going 1-1 for the overall.
Photo: Ray Archer
MX1 Moto1
1. Christophe Pourcel (FRA, Kawasaki), 40:35.710; ;
2. Steven Frossard (FRA, Yamaha), +0:02.198;
3. Antonio Cairoli (ITA, KTM), +0:09.492;
4. Tanel Leok (EST, TM), +0:11.368;
5. Maximilian Nagl (GER, KTM), +0:28.223;
6. Rui Goncalves (POR, Honda), +0:45.513;
7. Billy Mackenzie (GBR, Kawasaki), +0:48.209;
8. Davide Guarneri (ITA, Kawasaki), +0:50.811;
9. Brad Anderson (GBR, Honda), +0:53.186;
10. Anthony Boissiere (FRA, Yamaha), +0:56.013;
11. Xavier Boog (FRA, Kawasaki), +0:56.746;
12. Gregory Aranda (FRA, Kawasaki), +1:00.278;
13. Kevin Strijbos (BEL, Suzuki), +1:04.001;
MX1 Moto2
1. Antonio Cairoli (ITA, KTM), 41:03.052; ;
2. Steven Frossard (FRA, Yamaha), +0:10.675;
3. Christophe Pourcel (FRA, Kawasaki), +0:27.600;
4. Jonathan Barragan (ESP, Kawasaki), +0:35.024;
5. Maximilian Nagl (GER, KTM), +0:39.874;
6. Carlos Campano Jimenez (ESP, Yamaha), +0:42.526;
7. Brad Anderson (GBR, Honda), +0:45.116;
8. Kevin Strijbos (BEL, Suzuki), +0:53.694;
9. Anthony Boissiere (FRA, Yamaha), +1:10.209;
10. Shaun Simpson (GBR, Honda), +1:21.384;
MX1 Overall result
1. Antonio Cairoli (ITA, KTM), 45 points;
2. Christophe Pourcel (FRA, Kawasaki), 45 p.;
3. Steven Frossard (FRA, Yamaha), 44 p.;
4. Maximilian Nagl (GER, KTM), 32 p.;
5. Brad Anderson (GBR, Honda), 26 p.;
6. Jonathan Barragan (ESP, Kawasaki), 25 p.;
7. Anthony Boissiere (FRA, Yamaha), 23 p.;
8. Davide Guarneri (ITA, Kawasaki), 23 p.;
9. Rui Goncalves (POR, Honda), 22 p.;
10. Carlos Campano Jimenez (ESP, Yamaha), 21 p.;
MX1 World Championship standings after 13 of 15 rounds
1. Antonio Cairoli (ITA, KTM), 554 points;
2. Steven Frossard (FRA, Yamaha), 472 p.;
3. Clement Desalle (BEL, Suzuki), 461 p.;
4. Maximilian Nagl (GER, KTM), 410 p.;
5. Evgeny Bobryshev (RUS, Honda), 387 p.;
6. Rui Goncalves (POR, Honda), 371 p.;
7. David Philippaerts (ITA, Yamaha), 308 p.;
8. Jonathan Barragan (ESP, Kawasaki), 279 p.;
9. Xavier Boog (FRA, Kawasaki), 272 p.;
10. Ken de Dycker (BEL, Honda), 268 p.;
MX2 Moto1
1. Ken Roczen (GER, KTM), 40:40.977; ;
2. Tommy Searle (GBR, Kawasaki), +0:10.203;
3. Joel Roelants (BEL, KTM), +0:12.899;
4. Gautier Paulin (FRA, Yamaha), +0:29.008;
5. Valentin Teillet (FRA, Suzuki), +0:42.680;
6. Jeremy van Horebeek (BEL, KTM), +0:53.352;
7. Jeffrey Herlings (NED, KTM), +0:58.725;
8. Jake Nicholls (GBR, KTM), +1:00.280;
9. Arnaud Tonus (SUI, Yamaha), +1:12.440;
10. Max Anstie (GBR, Kawasaki), +1:13.827;
MX2 Moto2
1. Ken Roczen (GER, KTM), 41:04.388;
2. Tommy Searle (GBR, Kawasaki), +0:13.758;
3. Jeffrey Herlings (NED, KTM), +0:17.975;
4. Gautier Paulin (FRA, Yamaha), +0:42.166;
5. Arnaud Tonus (SUI, Yamaha), +0:53.031;
6. Jake Nicholls (GBR, KTM), +0:55.494;
7. Christophe Charlier (FRA, Yamaha), +1:11.914;
8. Max Anstie (GBR, Kawasaki), +1:29.359;
9. Jordi Tixier (FRA, KTM), +1:42.096;
10. Harri Kullas (FIN, Yamaha), +1:47.766;
MX2 Overall result
1. Ken Roczen (GER, KTM), 50 points;
2. Tommy Searle (GBR, Kawasaki), 44 p.;
3. Gautier Paulin (FRA, Yamaha), 36 p.;
4. Jeffrey Herlings (NED, KTM), 34 p.;
5. Arnaud Tonus (SUI, Yamaha), 28 p.;
6. Jake Nicholls (GBR, KTM), 28 p.;
7. Christophe Charlier (FRA, Yamaha), 24 p.;
8. Max Anstie (GBR, Kawasaki), 24 p.;
9. Jordi Tixier (FRA, KTM), 21 p.;
10. Joel Roelants (BEL, KTM), 20 p.;
MX2 World Championship standings after 13 of 15 rounds
1. Ken Roczen (GER, KTM), 590 points;
2. Jeffrey Herlings (NED, KTM), 547 p.;
3. Tommy Searle (GBR, Kawasaki), 479 p.;
4. Gautier Paulin (FRA, Yamaha), 425 p.;
5. Arnaud Tonus (SUI, Yamaha), 353 p.;
6. Max Anstie (GBR, Kawasaki), 342 p.;
7. Zachary Osborne (USA, Yamaha), 295 p.;
8. Harri Kullas (FIN, Yamaha), 287 p.;
9. Nicolas Aubin (FRA, KTM), 242 p.;
10. Joel Roelants (BEL, KTM), 226 p.;
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Tommy Searle got 2nd in both motos. Not bad, but the guy couldnt even podium the entire time he was in the States running the AMA circut. Doesnt say much for our depth of talent in our GP's. Too bad, but he is improving. And he is running 3rd overall. Anstie and Osbourne couldnt get it done in the States either. Looks like the Des Nations will be a dominate American affair again.
Yes, that was a gnarly wreck in the 450s. But comparing it to Reed's crash at Spring Creek... NOT EVEN CLOSE!!
Glad to see CP performing up to standard again, even though it sounds like a lot of the contenders are out.
The old school Gaildorf circuit will be another cauldron of attention for Roczen eh? Nice. I had been wondering about that but now it is all cleared up. I guess that he has indeed been keeping up with things and is going to show up and race.
Good job Pourcel!!
That was a gnarly way to get taken out, but still can't compare it with Reeds.I think Chad owns that one. It would be cool to get televised coverage over here from the GPs. I see there injury list is growing, so get healed up buys. Good job for K Roc and CP.
innovative new CRF450R due to arrive in the next two months.... Hmmmmmmm
SORRY TO SEE THE INJURY LIST GROWING FOR THE GP RIDERS. ROCZEN IS TOTALLY DOMINATING. CAN'T WAIT TO SEE HIM BACK IN THE STATES. HOPE OSBORNE GETS BACK ON THE BIKE SOON.
I WILL SURELY MISS THE GP NEXT YEAR AT GLEN HELEN. I LOVE SEEING
THE EUROPEAN TALENT OVER HERE. SUCH A SHAME THERE IS NO DRAW FOR THE GP HERE. THE EVENT IN MAY WAS A BLAST TO ATTEND. I WOULD HAVE GONE AGAIN NEXT YEAR. OH WELL.
Good job 377, huge fan of yours!
It was a bad crash but REED'ys crash was worse.
New Hondas? will we finally see the mechanical valve train? Aka Dukati style? I gotta wonder if that is what Carolli is using on that 350 in the GP's very complicated but with todays electronics it will be soon in production. No more floating the valves.
What are you guys watching? Reed looked like he was landing on a bed of pillows compared to that one. No comparison. Those GP dudes wadded way harder and faster.
The footage is of a crash that is UNsimilar to Reed's incident.
I can't believe that some of the MX "writers" even have jobs!
Reeds crash " looked" crazier since he was free falling, but the body to ground impact wasnt any worse than we see just about every week... this McKenzie dude hit the ground a lot harder than Reed and although he was on the bike, he knew he was going down....Reed got right back up and motored away....a good thing of coarse, but also an indication his crash wasnt too bad physcially.....again, nothing more than we see ...just "crazy" looking.....now that RV and RD are spanking him, he is going to use the crash as his out....
Stupid argument: You are right.....
CD crash is big but these two smash,s harder in the ground... no argu about that...
I was watchin Billy and Leok before that crash and Leok hit Billy quite hard goin into a right hander, I think Billy was real worked up, if he would have been more patient the crash wouldn't of happend. I saw that they went down hard but couldn't see the actual impact untill I got home on the night. It's a rough un for sure but theirs been worse. Roczen was on another level, dude made it look easy.. Was so cool seein the "old" Pourcel ride. He looked real good, and I think he should join the French MXoN team for sure (kickin out Musquin). Cairoli looked as slik as ever, I could watch that guy ride all day long, it's a thing of beauty. And a kid who impressed me was Jordi Tixier, I expect big things from him next year (he just signed for RedBull Teka KTM). It was a cool day, racing wasn't so hot in them second moto's but I loved every second of it.
...Pourcel ..... was storming through the paddock to his car when the team chased after him saying he had a second bite of the cherry. Hilarious! I'm glad they caught him & he got to race. Go #377!
About the GP crash, the impact for the guy who did the quad looked pretty vicious, a lot like the hit Stewart took after landing on Carmichael (and both hits looked quite a bit worse than Reed's.)
The RC/JS crash was pretty tame compared to this, though. This could have been REALLY ugly.
Tommy Searle was hurt all the time in the ama championship 2009/10 .... he´s a fast guy but Roczen at the moment (in the outdoors) are much faster than Wilsen,Barcia and the other lites guys :( .... in Germany the dont race Supercross and the most tracks are pretty oldschool.... I think in 2012 he will also dominate SX
Well, it's nice to see signs of life from the embattled Frenchman.
CP knows he's running out of time to make a favorable impression for next years contract talks.
I would expect a maximum effort at the remaining G.P.'s and the "Monster Cup", formerly known as "U.S. Open of SX" for CP to shine the best light he can on his questionable performances as of recently.
He may still have a shot at a U.S. contract, just not at personal pick Monster Kawie which, begs the question, how hard will you ride for us when the sun's not shining on your butt???
Yes, that sounds harsh but, it's a buyers market as of now and consumers, also known as employers in this context, have more leverage to make such demands on manpower nowadays.
The second moto was stopped after about 15 minutes. Pourcel was great the whole week-end but he crashed out on the very first lap and I don't see how they could allow him to restart. The second moto should have been 20+2, not 35+2. Yesterday probably Frossard was the fastest, I really liked him and he has been a huge surprise since he didn't do much in the MX2, probably there are riders who are much more comfortable on the big ones, see Paulin. I am a huge fan of Cairoli but it really seems to me that the four Japanese 450cc are a step above his KTM at the moment, rarely can he get a holeshot or a top 5 start but, when he does, he wins.
Well I heard 377 already had a US deal for next year. I'm not surprised and no one else should be, he can ride supercross, an he can ride it well! If he couldn't there wouldn't be any deal for sure. I'm glad he's getting another shot, to go from 5 top dudes to 6 for next years SX can't be a bad thing can it?
Sucks to hear about Team Belgium's MXdN problems, injuries at the top level are always an inconvienience this time of year and it seems like the Belgians are always hovering around the upper echelons of the points / leaderboards.
I think I've read / heard Italy, G.B. & France all have injuries to their MXdN candidates......Sheesh!
I said watch out for Frossard at the start of the season! IMO Manes Frossard was always a 450 rider.. Although saying that he did win a few moto's last year on a 250.
@Carlsbad Italy yea, France and GB are pretty strong though. Hey ya got 3 Nationals left what happens if 1 of the Ryans goes down...? Alessi? Barcia? Dowd...? Ok maybe not, Belgium I think will get Roelants will ride in the open class, it's took him 13 rounds but he's lookin good right now. He kept Roczen honest for quite a while in the first mx2 moto.
"5 top dudes to 6 for next years SX can't be a bad thing can it?"
It would be great to have Pourcel back. And Weimer makes seven.
It won't be easy to top this year's SX season, but it's possible if everyone stays healthy. (I'm so effing excited.)
Ok all now I will check out the crash and then give you my 2 cents worth, Hey I crashed once LOL.....
@ looper148, If one of the Ryans goes down & out, there will be a giant letdown here in the U.S. and a giant ray of hope for the other teams. I don't think putting Alessi on the team is a negative, he's traveled Europe before, has done G.P.'s and he's a solid performer. There are people here who will crucify me for saying that, probably on a post right here, very soon.
Barcia & Windham are good 450 picks as back-ups but, DeCoster has always been hesitant to run unproven talent (Barcia) and Windham may or may not go if asked, based on his part-timer status and preparation.
I have a big problem with the idea of sending a Yamaha mounted 450 rider (Dietrich, Brayton, etc) to represent the U.S. as of now.
I like the thought of each team fielding their best possible candidates for the race so I, as a selfish fan, can see the best possible racing. It seldom works out that way though....
WOW, that was bad there was nothing he could do to keep from landing on him.....Now I rmember the times I doubled over someone to pass them and never though about what could happen?????
hopefully that shut up some of the superman haters. go CP, go Rocky, go Searle
Ok I dont think there is any reason to try to compare the 2 crashes both bad but different. I hate crashes anyhow!!!!!
@ Carlsbad, yes well said and yes even though I am not a great fan of Alessi I do respect his talent. With all of the problems that Belgium has I feel bad for them and also DeCoster as that is his home country.
Roczen proved he´s the best in the world today. There simply isn´t another like him. Totally cool, calm and collected. He just played with the opposition all weekend. Jeffery Herrlings was riding injured (broken rib) and C P is back to almost his best. Simply dominated the quali race and would have got Fossard in the first moto even if he hadn´t stalled. He´s still 30% off his best and will dominate MXON overall.
America verses Europe is a one way street. Europe 3, USA 0. LOL. Sorry suckers. Ha ha.
@ Mike,Now that is a challenge for racer X to do lets see how the pionts would end up if on all of the Throphee Des were calulated that way, Where is TRick when we need him? oh yeah someone on here god him so mad he quit posting that is a shame cause he did some good reshearch.
Mike = Tool
Ok Welks, he´s my Euro team.
MX1, Pourcel. Oops, he´s not even made the French squad, idiots, so I suppose I´ll have to settle for Ciaroli.
MX2, the worlds #1, Kenny the king Roczen
MX3 I suppose I´ll have to settle on either Fossard or Paulin. Of the two, and it´s very close, I´ll pick Fossard.
Team Usa = The two Rayn´s (sounds like a pair of homo´s LOL) and Baggette.
Team the rest. = Mx1 Reed, MX2 Wilson, MX3 anyone you like (won´t make any difference).
End result
Europe
USA
Rest of the planet.
BillC = undiscovered genius (in other words, an A hole)
@Carlsbad, Alessi is not a race winner but he has proven himself to be strong all season. I think he would be a good choice for alternate.
@Welker, maybe Roger might have to suit up to defend his own country! lol
@ czmark, yes I thought about that also he just might be able to turn a few heads that would be somthing if he did.
Hey czmark, here is a story for you! I think you remember when we started with the long travel rear suspnsion? Well as ST Peters track this guy who was always mid pack 250 expert showed up with his CZ and the shocks moved forward, I thnk you know what I mean. Well we all got our Cycle News on fridays at the shop I worked at. anyhooooo this guy Don Zach I think blew everyone away including Jay Clark and he ussually won. The next week all of us expert/pros had done the same thing, we were equal again.
@BILLC, dont waste your time with that douchebag. He's a racists and a bigot. He thinks if he takes the entire worlds best motocrossers and puts them against 3 from the US he wins something and its a grat defeat to us. And it really means nothing to us here. Let him play his little childish games and go away. While we watch live and breathe the best motocross in the world right here. Ready for Southwick??
read my name?
@mike
@Mike, there is a big flaw in your "All Europe" team victory. Dungey has already proved he can beat Cairoli, or did you not see the results from the ;last Des Nations?? Dungey waxed him badly, and even Short, (who was in 6th place here in the states ) beat Cairoli. Roczen may get the win over Bagget, maybe. It matters which Bagget shows up. And Fossard, HAHAHAHA, he couldnt beat a few of our amatuers here in the US. Much less RV or Dungey.. Cairoli couldnt beat Dungey, much less RV. Doesnt matter Nazi/Irish Mike, the USA will kick your Euro-Stars as$ too, and you hate your sorry life. You are so ate up with your hate it ruins your sorry existance. You sit and think of ways where your life sucks. Its great, while all of us in the States love our wonderful fullfilled lives. HAHA!!
Sorry as# Pourcel couldnt even finish a race here in the States, and beats Cairoli in the GP's. I guess it shows that there isnt much depth in the GP's. Pourcel barely even got a 450 ride here with the big boys.
I hear that Pourcel's rental car overheated because he left it running when he got to the track on Sunday.
@mike.... i'm sorry i was laughing so hard i hit the button... this team will destroy you.
Dude, Cairoli already proved he can beat Dungey (Franciacorta) and Villopoto (England, 2006), so do not take anything for granted.
Looper148: Paulin already proved to be successfull on a 450 and he has been good on a 250, while Frossard in the MX2 was not that good, even if he won in Sweden last year, he was well behind the top guys. ON a 450 he started going fast from the Italian Championship races last winter and, anyway, everybody saw how good the Yamaha Rinaldi is, Campano on Philippaerts'bike seemed another rider.
MIKE: come on man, Pourcel is at 70%?? Don't make me laugh, if he were at 70% he would not even be in the top 10. I am telling everybody that Frossard was gonna win that moto1 hadn't he stalled the bike, Pourcel was 2 seconds behind and his gap was increasing, when he came back he signed the best lap, read the race man, time sheets. In the second moto Pourcel he got beaten badly by Cairoli, from the very first lap (Cairoli was first and Pourcel started behind him), there was no way, I saw the races, Cairoli is not afraid of Pourcel, he already beat him badly, Pourcel was much fresher, all the other riders had already run a 15 minute moto. Pourcel is an awesome rider but Desalle, Frossard and Tonino are not slower than he is
You guy's are forgetting the fact that Pourcel has always bin way faster then Dungey and Cannard! So if he would race in the us with that KXF450 in good shape like he is now, he would still beat Dungey! And i'm sure usa won't even race the mxdn next year! They will NOT show up in the sand!!!!
@GP racing
I've got 3 for you BRO - Thunder Valley 2009.
Searle shut down Done-gy like a boss.
Fast forward 2 years after a season out due to injury and he's second to Kenny Rocz. Oh only the fastest lites rider since the 259.
Standby Yanks as 2012 is gonna get so Euro on your podiums you'll be eating Sauerkraut and Goose Stepping before you can say Blitzkrieg.....
Listen, and understand. That ROCZENATOR is out there. It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead.
CP fans are dreamers, they live into suppositions, LOSERS !!!!
CP reality:
AMA 450SX: 0 point
AMA 450MX: 40th ?
AMA MX 250 title: 0
AMA MX 450 title: 0
AMA SX 450 title: 0
GP MX1 title: 0
MXoN win: 0
@eurodudes keep it up and we'll sent Havoc 7 , Bam bam and Hanny in 12 and half your guys won't even make the third moto and the rest will surrender.I think you need a memory refresh .."wen a Villapotio spanka you like a bambino. He blow uppa the brem and say ARRIVEDERCI... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjyZ8M_c558 .... GRANDISIMO beata downa. Momma Mia!!!!!!
@tonewall, ha ha ha ha ! mama mia! italiano against americano! amazing villo speed and style!
Real world guy, not only did you neglect to mention CP's MX2 and 2 AMA 250SX titles you doubled down on the titles you say he failed to get in his first year as a 450 rider. try listing your titles.
Man... Jamaica boys are going to win the Desnations.. like when they went to the olimpics and almost kick everyone´s ass in snow sled competition...
touché
#ùcking JEHL, you talk about 450, you make suppositions about cp in ama 450sx, MORON!
J.E.H.L:
Jealous Europeans Hypocrits and Liars !
trou du cul de frenzouille, retourne sur motocrotte.fr, tete de noeud! déja que vos élites ont des tetes de noeuds (cp, musquin ....) alors j'imagine bien vos tronches de charlots a vous!
Bill & Bal FIM world champions!, what's next giuseppe? Ping & Pong? :) hilarious euros clows!
@Dan, we here in the states have heard all this before, the big Euro invasion. It happens every couple of years. And recently it was Rattray, Searle and Pourcel. And NONE of them have won a single title yet. Only Pourcel has seen any moderate success. Rattray is still in the beginner class after almost 10 years as a pro, he just turned 26, and is racing teenagers. And still wont get a title. So if they come over, bring 'em on, we really do love to see the best in the entire world race our National series. I am waiting for Roczen, he is the one I feel who can get it done, if any. I dont see any others from Europe coming over and winning a title.
@Bart, dont know what Euro weed you have been smoking, but Dungey and Canard BOTH took titles over Pourcel. Canard basically spotted Pourcel about 40 points and came all the way back and beat him. And Dungey took the title the year before. So NO, Pourcel isnt faster. or he would have those titles right?? He NEVER got a title in the US, and never will. It takes more than winning a moto here and there, you have to be fast all year.
Pourcell won more motos than both Dungey and Canard and led both series until he crashed out. That means he can be as fast as those guys and therefore is on of the fastest riders alive (which he proved this weekend). He can still be great.
What are those of you who think Reeds crash was worse than mac and leok?
Slamin is way worse than landing on a down hill incline like a skier/ Than get hit by a bike. Reeds was spectacular but it was a flight and now his excuse for results h,mmmmm
Looing forward to Roczen next year in America
pourcell had some nice lines what a character looks in shape
Rick Melon aka idiot.
@Dan, Rattray is South African, not European. Just sayin'.
Pourcel, paulin, frossard... mmm And a real lucky day at the mxon...maybe they can beat usa...straight up.. Just a thought i have..... I dont really trust baggets speed but 2x R is no question about it..... well well we will see in september....
The ROCZENATOR indeed. LOL. He´ll smoke the two Ryans, even on a 250 (although I believe he´s gonna ride the MX1class on a 350). The reason given is that he doesn´t want to humiliate Baguette in France (ha ha ha).
I´ve seen the kid on a 350 (on a MX track, not SX) and he´s the Furher reincarnated, trust me. KTM offered him the 450, but then suggested he give the two Ryans a capacity advantage so as not to humiliate them totally. Afterall, he is racing in the USA next year, and who knows, the ZOG governmemt might just refuse him a visa or something if he bashes the home boyz too bad. LOL.
USA USA USA
@Welker, yeah that was a big trend to lay those shocks down. I remember a lot of people rewelding the shock mounts on there frames. It sure looked tricked at the time.
@Batz, thats some funning $hit. The Cool Runnings of motocross.
Tonewall can write Italian like the worst teacher, his Italian really such, avoid such things man if you don't have any ability, improve your English instead, it's time for you.
Tonewall can write Italian like the worst teacher, his Italian really sucks, avoid such things man if you don't have any ability, improve your English instead, it's time for you.
@klockhaven, Pourcel DID NOT crash out against Dungey, he was there for all the rounds and lost. And he didntcrash out against Canard until the last race of the year. And he had a over 30 point lead on Canard half-way through the year, and Canard caught all the way back up to him. Pourcel has NO HEART at all.
Wow @manes your lesson in english has sure helped me.........NOT ......It's called sarcasm A*S! After the MXDN you come back here and Ill give you another lesson. "tony he gonna eat roosta likea the spaget...Muskin he the gp champino no getta on the podium mucho...baggette spanka like a chupacabrella...how you likea me nowa!!!!...........please Honda don't change the CRF valve train..signed my landlord.
@tonewall, I thought your comments were funny. I likea you justa finea. So youa sounda mora likea Chico Marx. U speaka betta english yet? Sending lil hanny, havoc7, and bam bam anywhere would be scream. Then the rest of us could argue who is gong to wear the #1 plate. Wait, let's see who is left, then we will give to that guy. lol
lol at all the above, bring on the Nations.. :)
@cz ..chico is correct ....if i was pis*sed i'd use my 'russian'...lol I also think ANYone who is a top ten rider at a national or a gp is definately not a puss. Time will tell who can hang and who can't , not us. CP has pulled some weird stuff but he CAN ride the bike. His legacy will depend on more than a few races . Give the guy a break and Havoc7 too. These guys can still seriously get after it.
Tonewall, eat you hamburger you're getting fatter and fatter your Honda won't run anymore haha
@ Welker, The new avatar is awesome! Just got the new Racer X and saw the "new" JT ad.......PHENOMONAL!!! I must admit, the yellow / black gear is giving me goose bumps, even though I was all about Red / Blue back in my JT days. It would be great if they could rustle up enough cash to sponsor a team like GEICO or STAR (although they would have to cover the YZ-F's in Yellow / Black).
It's pretty cool to see so many other nationalities chiming in on this website, maybe RXI will get to claim "world's largest moto website" trumping DR & TWMX's schoolyard claims of "biggest this / biggest that".
As far as Bart's comment about Team USA not showing up to next year's MXdN..........watch the Southwick race this weekend and get your sand riding clinic maximum dosage.
Italians and french are the most cowards people of the history of humanity, and is not a personal attack, it’s a fact, and everybody who are not naïve, ignorant, and liars know that, euro-latinos of today are the same as those of the world war II, COWARDS!
hey, and the german kid Roczen does not have much respect for the euro fans, he want live in AMERICA and ride the AMA SERIES! fim/youthstream/gp SUCKS!
hey benito, you don't seem to have much respect for the Mongolian and to Ethiopian, but the Mongolians kicked europeans a$$ (with Genghis Khan) and the Ethiopian kicked Italians a$$ during the World War 2 (with their spears, against italian's panzer tanks)!
@Welker, one of your earlier comments about waiting for Friday to come around to get you weekly Cycle News. Yeah those were the days, who didn't look forward to their weekly subscription in the mail box. It was the only way we could stay connected to the outside racing world. I didn't care what else was in the mail. Also cool avatar! Stay cool man!
Heres an English version of Billy MacKenzie's crash with his cousin Bryan commentating - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2ZZRfkeAKo
Some administrator should change something on this forum as there is a retard who keeps posting non sense thing in his own language, since he's illiterate, using different names. Here we talk about MX and he must be banned.
Gertrude, please tell us about the MX riders from your country, how fast they are, what they won, what championship they have (picking up tomatoes etc..), instead of insulting European riders, loser. If you live in America (I hope not), I hope you don't have a green card or a resident card, it would be a real offence against American natives who see their country get bad because of people like you. RETARD