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Interviews by: Steve Matthes and Jason Weigandt
Eli Tomac GEICO Honda 5-2 for 3rd Overall in 250 Class
Today I got off to good starts. The first moto was okay, I had to eat a lot of roost, which was fun (Laughs). I worked pretty hard coming through, and almost caught up to Swanepoel at the end for fourth, but I couldn’t make it happen. That was okay. Second moto, I almost got the holeshot. I haven’t had that all year. I was trying to pace myself with Dean, and we kind of stayed in the same place. At about the 20-minute mark, my lap times came up a bit, and then I ran into a couple of lappers and Dean stretched it out from there.
At the beginning of the year you were a championship favorite and expected to win some races. What has prevented that from happening?
I really can’t say what it is. For one thing I’ve really struggled with my starts. I know you can do it from mid pack, but when you get a top five start, it makes it so much easier. That second moto, I was out in clean air, and it was like a whole new world. I think the starts have been my biggest problem. And I’ve been working on my bike, too. We made it a lot better over the last week. But, really, I don’t know. I just haven’t been as good as those guys this year.
"That second moto, I was out in clean air, and it was like a whole new world." - Eli Tomac
Photo: Andrew Fredrickson
Blake Baggett Monster Energy Pro Circuit Kawasaki 2-3 for 2nd Overall in 250 Class
I’m just glad to come out with what I got. I need to regroup again. Nobody likes losing, but I guess after winning some motos and overalls this year, earlier, I don’t know. Washougal was obviously good, winning the overall with a 1-3 there, but it seems like I’ve been struggling a little bit with something. I think I have an idea of what it is. We’re going to go home and try to fix it. My starts have been hit or miss on them, but at the beginning of the year it was all miss, so that’s better, but I need to keep improving on those. Especially if I’m going to Motocross of Nations, I’ll be on a 250, and I have to race 450s in both motos. So I definitely have a lot to work on. I’m just not even worried about points right now. I’m just going to give it the best I can every day, and try my hardest. Dean has been solid all year. Congrats on him for his first win of the year. I’ve had some wins, but at other times, I’ve been really inconsistent.
What was the difference today? At other rounds, you’ve had the speed to come through and win.
Some days I feel it and some days I don’t. It was kind of like Millville. The track didn’t fit the riding style to where I could make some things happen and come through the pack to the front pretty easy. I tried to ride it that way and I had some crashes, just minor tip overs, two in the first moto and one in the second moto. I didn’t want to push it overboard and have a big crash. I’d rather just lose a few points and come back at the next one.
Ryan Villopoto Monster Energy Kawasaki 1-1 for 1st overall in 450 Class
It was definitely a good day. We made a decision to go to the 2012 the week before this last weekend. We flew to California and rode it and we knew immediately that’s what we were going to do. We did a little bit of suspension testing and knew it was better. So then we took it back to Florida and just rode it there. So we rode it for like two weeks. I think the problems we had with the old bike, the new bike improves that. I think it definitely showed, and my body felt like it was easier to do it, too.
Just knowing our bike was better than what we had, so I definitely felt like, coming into here we were in a great position. I didn’t get holeshots, but I had top five starts both times, and it seemed like it was pretty easy to move through the guys. The bike just helped me to go where I wanted it, and I wasn’t struggling with it all.
Obviously, he (Dungey) has been riding good and he’s been really strong in the second motos. But like I said, riding that new bike, I knew it would definitely help. I wasn’t sure that was going to be the difference, but I knew it would help. The old bike, we had a problem with it feeling a little harsh. It obviously wasn’t the suspension, it was the frame. The guys in Europe have been using it, and based on what we heard from them, we knew it would be good. The 2011, it was just a little more rigid, and there was some harshness I could feel through my body. The new bike, the frame is just a little bit softer and that seems to make a big difference.
He (Barcia) rode really good. I didn’t think he’d be able to just jump on it right away and ride it that good. But he did ride the bike at Bercy, even though that was a tight supercross track, but obviously he has the skills to ride it. And he’s going to be here through the end of the season, so he’s going to be a guy we’re all going to have to watch out for.
"Yeah, he rode really well. But this is the big boys, this isn’t the amateurs, and we can’t play little games out there." - Ryan Dungey
Photo: Andrew Fredrickson
Ryan Dungey Rockstar Makita Suzuki 2-2 for 2nd Overall in 450 Class
I fought it a little bit, both motos. Both motos I didn’t get the start I should have gotten, I was back there messing with some of the other guys. It was a good weekend overall, I stayed healthy. But by the time I got up to second, and Ryan was out there, I just couldn’t make the time up. I’m looking forward to the last three races. It’s going to be a challenge but it’s a challenge I look forward to.
Where you surprised by Barcia’s speed?
Yeah, he rode really well. But this is the big boys, this isn’t the amateurs, and we can’t play little games out there. It’s kind of annoying. He needs to grow up and have some respect out there, and watch what he’s doing. It’s just a bummer to deal with that. But I have to give it to him, he’s a great rider, he held me off for darn near the whole second moto, so I can’t take too much away from him. On the last lap, I railed the outside, and he actually swerved off the jump to avoid the lapped rider. I don’t know what he did. I didn’t think we were going to hit, but as we got closer to the landing, he was right underneath me, and I thought we were both going to go down, and it was going to get nasty. It was just one of them deals, I’m glad we’re all right, I can’t really get mad about it, he is out there to race his position, as am I. And I’ll leave it at that.
Michael Byrne BTOSports.com/BBMX Suzuki 40-12 for 17th overall 450 class
I had a good start in the first moto but something hit my front brake line and busted it in the fourth turn. I tried to ride for a bit but it was too hard to stop. Second moto, 40th gate pick, I was screwed for the start and I tried my best and got up to 12th.
I like Unadilla, it’s always been good for me and I don’t know what it was but it was harder to pass than usual. I don’t know what it is, the rain or what. Maybe the fake dirt or something could be left off. I’m coming off my best race of the year so it’s a bummer to have happen what did.
"My day wasn’t bad, the last time I raced an outdoor was Steel City 2009." -Ryan Morais
Photo: Andrew Fredrickson
Ryan Morais Rockstar Suzuki 12-12 for 12th overall 250 class
My day wasn’t bad, the last time I raced an outdoor was Steel City 2009. Today was ok, I got good starts but my opening laps were terrible. I went from 8th to 18th or something in the first laps. I need to work on my sprint speed to get up there and stay up there.
The other riders sprint speed was more intense then I thought it would be. I’ve been watching the races and usually the guys stop dropping back around halfway but today, with it being overcast, the guys were going the whole time. I’m happy with my day but I honestly wanted to be top ten.
Josh Strang Suzuki 22-20 for 24th overall 450 class
My day was definitely interesting and I’m a little bummed on the end result. Not where I wanted to be, I wanted to be higher. Overall it was fun though, Makita Suzuki hooked me up with a bike and it was great. I just jumped into the deep end and that’s what caught up to me. I could maintain the pace for 15-20 minutes but then the intensity caught up to me and I dropped back. Still, it was fun to do a national,but I don’t think I’ll be able to do anymore. This is it for me.
In the first moto I was up there, somewhere around 12th, when I front end tucked on a sweeper and I went down. From there I started going backwards. If I wasn’t racing here, I’d be sitting on the couch waiting for the next GNCC so it was good to come out. I could get hurt at anytime, anywhere so I can’t be scared out of it. I’m getting more out of this than by not being here.
Jake Weimer Monster Energy Kawasaki 5-6 for 6th overall 450 class
I think this was my best race of the year for me. Riding-wise and with everyone here, I think it was great. I think a lot of it is due to the bike and I was struggling with the old bike for sure. It was good but for whatever reason I was having a hard time with it. After Washougal, I said I’d come down to California to test, whatever they wanted because we had to get the bike better. Then they called and said that they’re going to test the 2012 and to come down to SoCal. So I rode it and immediately I knew it was better, then we put the bodywork on it and it was better. I felt great on it. The 4mm thinner was a huge difference to me, it felt more nimble or whatever you want, it was a big help.
Myself and Brett (Metcalfe) got together in the second moto and it was a racing incident really. I knew he was there hounding me and we went into that corner by screw-u and I was on the outside and he was right there inside of me. He dove there at the same time that I kind of cut to the inside and down we went. No ones fault I don’t think, just one of those things.
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I liked RV's comments, but what did Dungey mean by Barcia needs to show respect, and not play little ganes out there. I didnt really see Barcia do anything dirty. He got into Dungey off the jump and went down, but even Dungey said he swerved over because of a lapper. I think Dungey was just a little mad because he had a hard time getting around Barcia, and he wants the title of course. Barcia seemed to race pretty clean to me. He sure proved me wrong, I didnt think he would do as well as he did.
I knew it was the bike for RV, he didn't have the same flow or body english like in the past. He definitely killed it out there and he didn't do it with great starts either. RV2 is your new outdoor 450 champion, we had better get used to it.
Dungey said the same thing when he used to race Jason Lawrence "Mind Games." Dungey is a weeny.
Thats right its NOT the amateurs, If you are faster you "move" the slower guy out of your way if you have to. Eat some raw meat this week RD and lets see some battles at the wick!!
This is Medic 81 in route driving the wambulance to pick up a Ryan Dungey. ETA 2 minutes
I think RD felt that JB tried to jump across the track to block him. I think JB got sideways avoiding the lapper, RD said he seen that. It didn't look to me that JB tried to block RD- it looked to me that he tried to swerve away as he landed. Who knows tho, Dungy just needs to take care of business.
Not sure how anyone could tell if Barcia was playing games from watching TV. So to make the assumption that it didn't appear he did anything is a stretch. Dungey was on Barcia the entire race, and from other reads, there was talk of brake checks and so forth...judging from the interview, it didn't appear as though Dungey thought the jump was the issue.
I remember this 2011 SX season when Goerke “slowed down” and caused the wreck with RV. Boy, the RV lovers couldn’t bash Matt enough, even though he ended up with a broken hip. When Justin Brayton and RV went off the track the RV lovers couldn’t bash Brayton enough for messing with the Title hunt.
I find it amazing to read the nonsensical reasoning from the RV lovers when something happens with Dungey caused by Barcia and RD is the cry baby. Heck, I won’t even start with the RV lovers bashing JS7 for his alleged “reckless riding” in the SX season. When JS7 did was no more or less careless than what Barcia did but because it was Dungey now it is ok?
Sorry guys, but I like all the riders. My IQ just isn’t low enough to be an RV-only loving guy.
Wow...Just reading that statement from Dungey again boggles me....So, the incident where Barcia moved over was clearly a "racing" thing and Dungey knows it was due partially to lappers.......So when was Barcia "playing games" ???....I dont get it. I didnt see Barcia do anything other that beat Dungey the entire moto....To me, it sounds Dungey is a little ego bent that RV was able to " catch, pass and pull" ( that is a new saying I am trademarking ) while Dungey dicked around waiting for Barcia to pull over ??...He sounds like a spoiled baby...man up dude.....what if that was round 1 ???
@JonR290 - The differnce here is, DUNGEY is the one whining about Barcia "playing games" , not the guys on the comments boards. Heck, I dont think anyone would have accused Barcia of anything other than a good race if Dungey didnt cry like he did......If I recall, RV didnt whine and cry about either incident you mentioned like we heard from Dungey this weekend.....with Goerke, RV rode up to dude and said "WTF" for basically stopping in front of him, he was mad...he didnt get on camers and talk a bunch of nonsense about respect and being a big boy....Dungey just lost some points in my book ......
It would be a good idea for RD to watch the motocross files with Bob Hannah every night before bed and the before practice, moto1, moto2, and see how he gets through traffic then. LOL Or maybe go and stay with him and his bad ass attitude for the week before Southwick. I'm just saying it might help!
Well said
Rick Melon!!
its not like barcia has a track record of ridding dirty. not that im against racing like that but i think its funny its like everyone forgot about it and just think he is some long haired angle taht does no wrong. I agree though that dungey just have to beat him at his own game and make some room. but then we would hear the entire choir chime up about that now wouldnt we.
dont even get me started on his "boring" interviews and when he finally says what on his mind hes a whinner.
i guess it all comes down to a bunch of bench racers working the local 7/11 that saved up nickles and dimes to buy an I-phone. All to rip on ppl that have made it.
PS im a fan of motocross not dungey.
i think dungy is scared of barcia just like how j-law scared dungy right out of a title, dungys a great rider but its way to easy to get into his head and hes probably having flashbacks
Hey er Mr Dungy if you did not notice yet I dont thank there are any "amatures out there" ?? If you cant pass em dont make excuses. ya ive had my fair shar of people playing fullback but ya gotta pass em anyhow.....
Now we gotta wait for the Wick to see who is the best! From what I saw on Ali Sports it is starting to look like a scramble's race now. Execpt it has more jumps and ruts.
Lets RACE!
I really like dungey but its a bummer that he's acting like such a little girl. From what i saw Barcia was straight up faster and it looks like ryan was pissed about that. And i would be too but theres no need to say barica was out of line. Juatins out of line for doing what he's paid to do? Thats bs
since when do we complain about riders "Riding a wide bike?" chad has been praised for that for years. Thats why the leader usually pulls away from the battle for second so quickly, the riders tend to slow just a bit in a battle from taking different lines to pass someone or keep someone from passing them. Barcia rode a wide bike and he and dungey had a cat and mouse race. That was the only game played. That being said, this is motocross, we don't always have to be super nice to everyone. Props to Dungey for getting pissed for once.
Thats right JonR290, its just us low IQ morons that like Villipoto. Idiots UNITE!!
For those who think Ryan Dungey is wrong to say Barcia is playing games and stuff ...watch the second moto again Barcia takes every chance to mess with Dungys lines...He moved over on the face of the jump and is lucky he did not get hurt when they landed together....I believe the thing that bothers Dungy the most is that he is in a points battle for a championship and here is this part timer blocking him and racing harder than he should ( look at his past..crash prone ) when Dungy is trying to get max points for a championship. There should be some etiquite about such things..JMO.
David C, "watch the second moto again Barcia takes every chance to mess with Dungys lines". Really? Seriously? You really think Barcia, while leading Dungey, is supposed to move out of Dungey's way? WTF is wrong with Dungey and his apologists?
Barcia gets his shot with Factory F'ing Honda and he's supposed to move out of the way and sacrifice getting an overall podium finish in his first ever appearance in AMA MX for Factory Honda? This isn't a lapped rider we're talking about. This is a guy racing for a freaking podium spot. OF COURSE HE'S GOING TO TAKE AWAY DUNGEY'S LINES, DAVID C. That isn't "playing games" or somehow being immature or whatever it is you Dungey apologists are claiming. It's racing.
And then Dungey says in his own words above that Barcia had to cut across the face because of a lapper. That move was the ONLY thing that anyone could even remotely complain about, and even Dungey admits there's nothing he could do. I really think that all of you think Barcia should have just moved out of the way like he's some local who is a lap down. The kid gets the holeshot and holds off the defending champion for 30 minutes. There is ZERO chance I'm giving up a podium in my first ever appearance on a factory 450, and I highly doubt any of the rest of you would either...Dungey apologist or not.
I was a big Dungey fan, but this thing has really changed the way I look at him. He has been frustrating the hell out of me through SX and the first half of MX as he takes his sweet @ss time getting around people. This crying nonsense is the icing on the cake. What a little b!+ch.
Can someone please provide an example of when Barcia switching lines or "riding a wide bike" really affected Dungey during the race or denied a legit pass attempt other than the last lap jump incident?.He passed Barcia the first moto, what the hell????.....I watched the 2nd moto a 2nd time...heck maybe I will a 3rd since its so cool to watch RV handle business... I tell you one thing, coming up that uphill where the inside is a couple platue type jumps and the outside is just a rut line, Dungey almost hit the deck on his own getting all squirlley.....I have raced many times and blamed someone or something else for my failure, its called denial of defeat...Anyone ever listen to Chad Reed whine before????.....Dungey failed to pass Barcia and now looks like a boner....just go out and beat Barcia next week Dungey...thats all you can do....
Despite what RD says.....Justin Barcia is the TRUTH. A modern day Bob Hannah. All out grip and go racing, if your in his way he will move you, stuff you or pass you on the outside laughing. He needed this jump up to the 450's. The 250 is not enough bike for him. He over rode it the entire season causing 75% of his aerobatics, The other 25% was just dumb mistakes. RV and RD I think are just plain lucky canard and windham took a "seat" when they did or else there maybe a whole new kind of REDUX articles come later in the weeks. BAM BAM all day!!!
I love the comments like "From what i saw Barcia was straight up faster and it looks like ryan was pissed about that." What? Dungey caught and passed him in both motos, but Barcia was "straight up faster"? I mean, what can you say to that? As for the "whining," anybody remember a fellow named DEAN WILSON? I remember MANY of you taking his side when he complained of Barcia's overly-aggressive riding. Yes, Villo got by Barcia much more quickly, and he was the top guy on this day. I also noticed that RV straightened out a small S-turn and jumped past Barcia - and Barcia kind of backed off and let him. If he was his usual aggressive self, they could have both easily been laying on the ground. But Dungey passes Barcia, gets jumped on by Barcia - which easily could have ended both their seasons - and Dungey (the same Dungey who gets criticized weekly for his "boring" interviews) gets lambasted by the knucklehead brigade for showing some emotion. Get a grip. Dungey's got more talent in his pinky than most of you have in your whole body. And bringing up Jason Lawrence? What was that - three years ago? Who's done what since then? Oh, Dungey's won every championship he's ridden, until he fell just short in this year's SX. In MX he beats 37 to 39 of the world's best on a weekly basis. If he's a "girl," what does that make YOU?
Sounds to me as if half way through his little rant, Dungey realized he is sounding like a a baby...making really no sense and just whining and eventually contradicting himself......"this isnt amatuers, show respect, watch what he is doing..... wah wah wah..... But I have to give it to him, he is a great rider..he held me for darn near the entire second moto"..... I think Bam Bam was watching what he was doing....he was watching Dungey behing him.....Dungey handled this one poorly.....no doubt...his emotions says more than his words....he was upset and defeated......it happens dude!
What happened between Barcia and Dungey wasn't that big of a deal, and I don't think of Dungey as a crybaby at all. He was frustrated and fired up by the sounds of it, we've all said things on the spot under stress that we probably regret like that. I think all of the heat over this is coming from the fact that a weekend doesn't pass without Barcia riding over his head and wadding up, hitting someone, etc. I don't think position changes occur around Barcia without someone getting slammed. The guys in the title hunt were probably worried about that before the weekend and guess what.......it happened, contact with Barcia, big surprise. I don't know anyone with a brain and knowledge of racing who didn't think Barcia would hit someone this weekend. This has all been blown out of proportion and it's Barcia's past history of riding sketchy that ignited all this. I don't think any different of either of them after the weekend though, it's racing, whatever.
@David C. "There should be some etiquite about such things"...really? Barcia is being paid to win, regardless of whether he is on the 250 or 450. Be real. This is racing. Bet your ass that American Honda is completely pumped by Barcia's performance...along with others whom see young talent. BTW, Barcia has proven his speed and consistency this year by his SX season.
Just amazes me how some individuals can be so damn ignorant. RD lost a ton of points in my book this past weekend. I don't recall JS7 or RV2 blaming others and whining like little girls.
I think the only "head game" that is real is in RD's head realizing they have a 4th rider in the next 3 rounds that can carry the pace.
I might add that Dungey is a 21-year-old kid with pressure to perform that I'll bet NONE of you posters has ever had. And were you on Dungey's helmet watching every move Barcia made? On another thread, someone commented on a statement from none other than Broc Glover saying he saw Barcia messing with Dungey as early as qualifying. Maybe not on purpose, but did that excuse stop any of you critics from pounding on Bubba during SX? For the record, I like Justin, but he's a danger to himself and others at times. You ALL know that (unless you've been sleeping through every one of his pro races).
Someone said it best Barcia modern day bob hannah!!! Dam right, about time we get someone with a personality in the top 3. The 2 ryans are like milktoast boring baby boring. I have been waiting for years to get someone back like hannah. Thank God!!! BTW I was there at dilla and in no way did barcia ride dirty. Thats racing!!!
mtnracer.......nothing personal but just for your credibility's sake, don't reference JS7 as someone who doesn't make excuses, that's about all he does next to avoiding stiff competition as of late.
The "GAMES" Dungey is calling Barcia out on happened in practice when Dungey was putting in a fast lap and Barcia basically waited for Dungey and whipped it off the huge back tabletop, his back tire was about 6 inches from Dungeys face!! Kind of funny, but not very smart either. Dungey needs to be more aggresive in the first couple of laps, period!!!
idiot75.......if what you're saying is right then Dungey has a right to be pissed. Like I said before, it wasn't necessarily what Barcia did this weekend to heat things up. He's known to be dangerous and he delivered again on that to a title contender this weekend, intentional or not. I agree with whoever mentioned the first 450 race / hometown adrenaline thing, I don't think Barcia will deliver anything remotely as good the rest of the year. I could be wrong though, hopefully noone gets hurt around him. Hopefully for his own sake he doesn't play games with #2 or it will be the last thing he does this season lol.
I AM a fan of Dungey....And I’m also a fan of Barcia...two great riders...two different styles....Dungey is like a mix of Windham and Bayle...smooth and calculated....Barcia is more like Hannah mixed with Magoo...bonzai feet off the pegs goin for it...Problem is...Barcia has nothing to lose in this class...and Dungey has everything to lose....Barcia...realize it or not...was blocking and brake checking...flying on and off the track...and was, in Dungey's opinion, "playing games".... I share Dungey's opinion....Not so much when you watch it on T.V. but if you were there...it was obvious...thing is...Dungey can't win with the fans...if he lets it go and just thanks his sponsors...he's a boring robot...and if he expresses his discontent...he's a whiner
Two things, Barcia cost RD O points, its very clear and rd said he couldn't make any time up on RV with a clear track. RD almost landed on Barcia, NOT JB on RD
did some of you not see the race ???? Barcia was NOT brake checking RD at all
david langford...two things... points, and career ending crashes, are two different things...two more things.....you were obviosly not there...I was...two more things...It started in practice, and continued through both motos....and two more things just because you seem to like two things....RD landed on JB... because JB jumped into RD's line
Comedian Wrote said it best ... Props to you. The only thing missing in the interview speeches are the riders not thanking the fans, who along with sponsors make the racing go round. For those not fond of "boring" sponsor plugged interviews, well that's how they get paid and every rider has their own style. It's just a matter of preference on what you prefer but no reason to keep bashing the Ryans for canned interviews, I pretty sure they are being who they are.
"This is the big boys and he needs to show respect" C'mon Dungey, you just showed the little girl inside of you crying about it, and maybe YOU should show respect to a kid that almost beat you on his first race with the big boys, like you call it. Watch out!!!
I have a "What If" for the readers of this thread...Reed had said publicly...Barcia's going to be my "Wing Man" at Unadilla...this comment was made at a time when Dungey seemed to have the momentum...Now...It's obviously irresponsible speculation to suggest that anyone knows what gets said at the test track...but let’s assume...just for the sake of comedy..."What If"... Reed suggests to a young and impressionable Barcia....Get into Dungey's head...do it in a J-law type manner...rattle him kid...I have my own team and the possibilities could be endless...What If?....things that make you go...Hmmmmm..."What If"
I hate to see Dungey react this way--- shows his true colors! What a WUSS !!!
why don't ya all just shut up!! rv,rd,jb all did great! so shut up! let me say one more thing before I leave SHUT UP!! oh yeah, RV's at bat!!!
It really doesn't matter what happened with RD and JB lol
If he took out Barcia everyone would be saying that was dirty and blah blah and getting on his case for that or just have happened and hes getting called a whiner so its a lose lose either way
OK, I go off the track and come back on still in front of the guy behind me. Then I move across the jump and almost take out the guy trying to pass me, but I go down. I get up and cut the track and finish the race. Why don't I run off the track every lap just before the woops and save my engery. Pass as many people on the rest of the track because I didn't ware myself out in the woops. Come On AMA, change it back to where you ran off the track, you must get back on. That is called paying for your mistakes. This last weekend I just had TV remorse. A few good laps and the rest like nascar. And who will Honda put in to try to take more points from Reed. Bring it back at Southwick Reed. Let go of your freestyle career. Get the mojo. Dungey, like your boots say, just do it.
"I just haven’t been as good as those guys this year"
Wow !
comedian, two more things sweety, you are wrong in saying I wasnt there, and how the hell could JB know where RD's line was exactly, since RD was clearly coming from behind ? sure he was trying to stay in front of him, good god they were racing! The only one racing below his potential was RD, hope he does better next week. He better respect the "little boys" coming up
For all who call Dungey a "girl" or a "wuss," I would ask ... by your standards, what do you consider yourselves? Because if Dungey is a "girl," it's highly unlikely that you are men. Name calling surely doesn't make you a man, and RD has already accomplished more on a motorcycle than 99.999 percent of you ever will. Girls! LOL
dang sef154...ur facts are out of line...barcia didn't jump on dungey...ur 3D tv is messed up er something...
y you so butt hurt about this? and to call people out for 'not being as good as dungey, so you can't say anything about him' is BS, after all the shit talking you do...
example...sef154...lets talk about js7 a little bit? thoughts?
exactly
This is neither here nor there as far as whining goes, but anyone who thinks the contact was RD's fault is dillusional. The footage shows Dungey have a clear line around the outside because Barcia didn't plan his way around the lapper in front of him. Dungey jumped straight as an arrow while holding his line around JB who jumped across on a 45 degree angle right into him, intentional or not. Pull your head out of your *sses Dungey haters. By the way I'm not rooting for RD before you call me out on that.
@comedian - Nice perspective, you never know. However, I am betting Reed was thinking he would be in front of Barcia and Barcia would be his buffer, or "wing man" between Dungey and RV. As we saw this weekend Barcia played that role, but Reed was getting smoked. Reed didnt have the pace this weekend and hesaid before he hates unadilla, but he wants tracks to be more oldschool???.
I really dont think personally its because of the crash at Millville..He was not seriously injured, scared maybe, but he is the wonderful "Chad Reed" remember???. He can do anything...Heck, JS7 hits the ground harder and comes back the next week to win.....Reed bailed during practice at unadilla and seemed to be hobbling around before moto 1....Reed runs up front when he gets holeshots or top 3 most the time....but he was back in the pack and had to race guys and there you have it.....I knew RV and RD would smoke Reed at Unadilla.....didnt think Barcia would, but I was wrong.
@@sef154 - You seem to be the confused one. As Retardcross said above, Dungey rode straight; Barcia came over and into him. Period. And as to my earlier comments, much like people are mistakenly saying that Dungey is suggesting Barcia should have "pulled over" (he did NO SUCH THING), you, too are mistaken in suggesting that I said people have no right to criticize Dungey's comments. My beef is with calling a kid (and yes, he is a kid) who arguably had reason to be upset, and who is at the very pinnacle of a sport we all presumably love (and none of us can do anywhere near as well as him) a "girl" and a "wuss." As I suggested before, if Dungey is a "girl," I'd hate to think what that makes some of you. Name-calling children, perhaps? But truthfully, I’ve come to expect it out here.
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Just watched 2nd moto again. Barcia was looking forward 99.9% of the time, he didnt look behind him before breaking coming into corners or exiting them. He was riding his own race and as usual, Dungey couldnt make a pass. It looked pretty clear to me that approaching the jump they collided on that you could see the helmet of that lapper getting big, fast. Barcia had 1.5-2 bikelengths and tried to swap to maintain momentum at the last second but didnt think Dungey was quite so close i dont think. Easy err to make.
BamBam ran the pace the whole race, saw the good lines and was in them. Dungey should've forced the issue.
"Dungey rode straight; Barcia came over and into him." What?? Barcia's IN FRONT OF Dungey. Key words: 'In front of..'
Barcia can choose whatever line he wants but IMHO did not swerve over & take RD out. He's in front of RD. He comes up on a lapper so he picks another line (any line) he chooses. We do this all the time out on the track. Pick a new line. Stay in front of (or pass) another rider. That's how it works in MX. The guy in front dictates! That's why you want to be in front. The whole point of Motocross is to beat or finish IN FRONT OF the other guy(s). Maybe you like to let the other guy win? IDK
21MotoRules............you sound like the guy who jumps across the faces of jumps that everyone who rides and is actually fast hates. They were virtually side by side off the takeoff and Dungey was riding as far outside as he could because he had more drive, he was riding the track stakes up the face of the jump and on the landing. Barcia on the other hand.......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fx2QkDICEj8
If this video doesn't change your opinion then you obviously just have a thing for Dungey. There's a difference between having the advantage in front of someone and blocking lines and doing something stupid like jumping across on someone right on your heels.
Dungey needs to just park JB17 at the wick and everyone will shut up...
Retardcross....The video says it all...even Emig knew what Barcia was doing...they weren't even on the lapper yet
Retard cross, that video convinces me that I fault neither rider. From JB's side,he was coming up on the lapper fast and didn't want to jump on him or land right behind him and have to swerve around him so he went left which put him closer to where RD was going to go. For 30 min RD had not been able to pull alongside so I can see why JB was suprised to find that RD was there this time. I have to say JB cleanly took RDs line several times that moto and this one was set up earlier by two mistakes JB made that let RD get right on him.
From RD's side I know he was thinking championship points and he HAD to get around JB for two points even when it became clear he wasn't going to catch RV. I completly understand him being frustrated at loosing 6 points to RV and JB was the easiest scape goat and salt in the wound.
From RC's perspective, quote "most times we create our own luck". RD made many small mistakes in either line choices and bobbles and small spinouts trying to get aroud JB, even when they had seperate lines he couldn't find the speed to pass early in the race. He has struggled all year with this and I expect he will improve, BUT they are racing at speed I can't relate to and how much faster can you get- top three were over 45 seconds ahead of CR and that is fast !!!
Dungey - go ride the pitiful orange bike, I do not want to see your wimpy as# on a factory honda !
david langford...watch it again sweety...the lapper is getting out of the way down the right side of the track...Dungey is railing the left side...all Barcia has to do is jump into the six feet of middle between them...instead...he chooses to take Dungeys line...Emig calls it right on the money
EXCACTLY ! I couldn't have said it better, he missed the lapper and almost took RD's line, he just wasn't quite fast enough. If you were coaching him on how to win what would you have him do ?
@comedian ya can't just take the Middle at that speed, JB needed a "rut" to keep him on the track, It was not a straight it was a bit of a turn so not that easy besides he was in front so its the guy behind who can see whats going on. Racing thats all.
Dungey is mad cuz he couldnt get around barcia, he sucks at passing and waits till last lap to make a pass, if he can even make it!!! Barcia raced clean the whole moto, and should not pull over when running in 2nd place!!! Dungey needs to take his dress off and start passing and making them stick, and if that means getting into to someone than so be it... ya wanna follow for 10 laps go race with the girls!!!
@chelli (and some of the others) - Let's put you out on the track with Dungey and see who's wearing the dress! It's easy to be a big mouth when you're parked in front of your computer.
One thing the video shows is that Dungey is going straight and all the way to the left, while Barcia is almost all the way on the right side of the track, yet ends up all the way over into Dungey. If you were Dungey, would you want to have that happen as you're trying to get by someone? Bottom line, Barcia pretty much got what he deserved, and the guy trying to defend his championship almost got taken out by "the new guy." I'd be pissed, too.
Everyone seems to think Barcia was ahead of Dungey on that jump.......and he was by maybe 6 inches. They were side by side approaching the face and any racer knows you don't jump across on people unless you're James Stewart. JB fans are just sticking up for a bonehead move the same as JS7 fans stick up for his weekly on-track antics. It's racing and it happens, but trying to justify it as a legitmate, safe blocking attempt on Barcia's part and blaming it on Dungey because he was "behind" is bullsh*t. It was a sketchy move, bottom line, I'd be pissed off too. Why do I bother trying to reason with people on here lol.
Now THAT, Retardcross, is the REAL question.