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Nice to see RD Pissed off!! He needs that on the track, He should have Parked JB or just blasted by him!!
It's disappointing to here Dungey and Bagget complaining about Barcia and Bogle challenging them. Come on guys, you'd both have done the same thing in their positions. Sorry but I lost a little respect for those two with their statements
I guess because they're not in the championship points everybody should pull off and watch they have bills and hate to lose like everybody else does, little cry baby's
Yeah I saw the post race talk but it is not closed Captioned so I dont know what they said? the way I understnd it is yes both Barcia and Boogle should do as good as they can just dont try to play fullback ie blocker. I always hatted it when I got a bad start and the guys would spend more time blocking me from passing them and then cost me time to catch the next one. I dont doubt Barcia trying to hold up Dungy for Reed that is why in an earlier post I hope we dont have to see "Let Chad by" as for the 125s er I mean the 250's a little pun there. I think Boogle was just trying to hard and found out what it is like in the pro's.
RV2 would have just passed Barcia 25 minutes prior, RD5 should be pissed at himself for sitting on Barcia's back wheel for the whole race. RD5 CAN NOT PASS WORTH OF CRAP. That is what he needs to work on.
Man, that Dungey has really disappointed me. What´s with the crying dude? What did you expect Barcia to do, let you by? Jeez, it´s called racing fella. You want the place you gotta fight for it. Ain´t no gimme´s out there. You of all people should know that.
And Bagget also cryin like a big baby. Really, what is the problem with these guys?
Barcia rode no differently than the Idiot does all the time! If he would hold his line and not jump across the track like Stewart does he would be respected for his talent and speed. Villopoto passed him before he settled in by the time Dungy got to him he had sttled in to his usual idiot self. Dungy is going for the championship and can not risk getting hurt by Barcia and his dumb ass moves. We still have great opportunity to have one of the best championships in the history of the sport we do not need this idiot who does not have anything to loose taking that away from us.
Wow, Dungey you are a good rider, but you need to learn from this. You are not racing against Short anymore. It is a race and everyone is entitled to their position. Learn from this and get on the gas from the start like RV2 and don't let someone else influence your race. You know Barcia is going to be on it again at Southwick.
What's with all the Dungey bashing. Put yourself in his shoes. This is a championship series, not weekend worrior stuff. Yeah, he should've been able to get around better but when a dude is holding you up the whole moto, getting beat up by roost and rocks it's going to get frustrating watching your comp ride away. It's definitely a weakness for Dungey but isn't a guy allowed to vent some frustration. If you watched Millville and Washougal, Dungey was able to track down Villo because he didn't have someone holding him up. Barcia rides a wide bike and is all over the place, plus he isn't in the hunt for points, you would be pissed too. Hopefully he'll learn from it and either get a better start or try to be more aggressive earlier so he doesn't get held up while Villo runs off.
I did not see CR complaining, and his also on a Honda. Congrats to Barcia, I hope he wins next race. Dungey what a cry baby you are, if Canard would not have gotten hurt I bet he would also be racing for the wins, even though he's out of the championship. Barcia raced a very clean race and instead of crying maybe you should try to work with him since you most likely will be team mates next year.
how was bambam holding dungey up? if dungey thinks hes the man start passing people like rv2 dont just sit back and cry when they dont move for you......Bagget is starting to see wilson walk away with the #1 plate dont cry about it and blame other people.....
@Pao Team mates? you on drugs dude? Anyway. On one hand it's Dungey's fault for not paassing him earlier, and Dungey knows how Barcia rides he's raced him before and he can see him pretty much every week. But Barcia shouldn't have done what he did I didn't quite see what happened but from I heard/ kinda saw Barcia cross over on the face of the jump and went right into Dungey's line.
In the first moto RD had the fastest lap by .004 but in moto 2 RV had the best by over 2sec, Infact RV had 5 laps there were faster than RD's best. RV did a 2:07:369, RD 2:09:474 and JB 2:09:801.
.http://americanmotocrossresults.com/index.php?y=2011&e=09&w=0
For all you Dungey haters: Dungey was not crying and he did not say or imply that Barcia should let him by. DUngey gave credit to Barcia for riding a good race. Dungey's point was that Barcia needs to be a little smarter out there and not go cutting corners and crossing lines in mid-air. It's a dangerous thing to do, and Dungey's 100% right. It's not like this is a one-time thing for Barcia. I love Barcia's rough riding style, but Dungey has a point.
What when RD caught his it wasn't even like he was blocking him.For the most part he was't even close enough to pass.RD would get on JB and then JB would pull back ahead .This went on the whole race.Yeah JB's move was a Stewart move.When this kid gets more experience on the bike he's just going to get faster.Idiot or not the next few races should be barn burners!RD ride fast not cry hard.GO HONDA!!
Well said Comfortably--Dumb. Dungey said what he felt and gave Barcia credit for a good ride. That's the first time I can remember Dungey complain about anyone's riding. Something happened out there that was not easy for us to see. I like how Dungey said there is 3 races left, insinuating that Barcia better ride clean or get cleaned.
i was at the race and barcia had rearview mirror on his bike so he could block everyone..lol..the track is wide enough so just pass em ...nobody ever holds anyone up in racing ..if you are faster you will get buy ..so stop crying dungey and baggett..wait till peters starts racing..if you dont want competition then go race amateur..you get paid a lot of loot to ride your dirt bike ..so stfu and ride.... all you pro's better get a grip..try working all the time..its suks!!!
Looks like USA is sending two pussies to the Des Nations.
RACING IS RACING. SPONSORS IN THIS DAY AND AGE DON'T WANT TO SEE A GUY THEY ARE SPONSORING LIE DOWN AND PLAY DEAD. IT IS CONTRACT TIME AND WHO WANTS TO BE WITHOUT A JOB NEXT SEASON?
HONDA WAS SURELY IMPRESSED WITH BARCIA AS WERE GEICO WITH BOGLE.
Dam, Friggin Dungey and Bagget sound like 2 cry babies.
Typical comments from the peanut gallery in here.
im full of sh@t..and so is ryan"sniffles" dungey..wat a wuss..just face it..barcia is gonna smoke you after he learns to ride that 450 a lil better..this is motocross..you can ride wherever you want to..and tough sh*t to the dude behind you..and baggett is a whiner too..learn some respect???? who do you think you are?? bogle is gonna park you for that..you act like he was alapper..eh hem he was ahead of you and if he wants to take you to the berm then so be it...what happened to real mx?? bring back bob hannah !!!!
Hey penguin_bob, if you didn't see it how can you comment on anything. Barcia made a mistake, he did not cross over intentionally. And yeah my comment on Dungey was that he should've just pass him and not cry about it.
If you race MX, then you deal with all types of riders.
Barcia is a loose cannon.
And loose cannons are out there!
They crash in front of you, crash into you, slow you down and are capable of anything.
A loose cannon is not going to ride smart any more than a smart rider is going to ride like a loose cannon.
Dungey needs to "man up" and deal wiith Barcia.
@ Loose Cannon ... You forgot to point out that loose cannons can win races and championships ... like Stewie
Lost respect for RD. If you want "respect" drive around him like RV did. Maybe RD should write a letter to ama and ask to have all riders pull over for him. JB is there to race period. RD needs to go get some tampons.
oh yea everyone across the pond @ des nations please pull over and DO NOT RACE RD. You might upset him
Didn't RV start behind RD in both motos? then just passed everyone who was infront of him.. and that second moto charge from 5th or 6th to the lead in about a lap! now thats how ya pass ppl fast. RD cant complain if he cant pass easy, ryan wear's ppl down into a pass, RV pass's em with raw speed. Nuff said!.
maybe for the rest of the series they should do a split gate,let the top three in each class off the line first,or better yet just have the top three show up and race and everyone else can stay home,,thought barcia rode great,RD said this is the big boys,then why cry like a school girl??,,cant wait till southwick
"excuse me ,but i don't like how you ride when i'm BEHIND you, cause i'm the champ." hahah "Don't race me hard when i'm losing to my teammate " lol..... Heres an idea put a MANLY pass on whoever bugs you like RV did to BamBam then you don't have to worry about how they ride. Maybe he should NOT get the holeshot for YOU also........They have EVERY right to get a great start ,use all the track and to race you hard ...thats part of the job.Also maybe if everybody wasn't flipping the thing sideways when they know their going to be in the air next to someone might be a safer passing method. Barcia paid ,not Dungey and he should be glad he did'nt go down. I like both these guys (RD,BB) alot but I think they were tired and disappointed,and thats understandable . I sure NEVER saw RC or Havoc7 ever complain about or spend to much time on passes ,they would just get it done....( DISCLAIMER:HAVOC7 is not racing and has not been involved in any crashes, t-bones, your girfriends pms or anything to do with this mx season....) Yamaha are you watching this???? Small correct changes can work...tell the road race engineers theres no need to fire up the C.A.D...... Brand K is going to sell a bunch of those bikes.
Maybe KDUB will come back for one more National. I would much rather see him on the Honda than JB.
Now I know what its all about. I have not yet saw the 2nd Moto but if it took RD that long to grt by he deos have a problem and true we never saw Reed complain as far as I can tell frm Reed's tweets he is mad at himself. Yeah BC is a wild child I have raced against a few. I was also amazed he stayed upright for 2 motos. In my opion the tracks nowdays get too much one lined and that is because they are groming the tracks now. Lets let nature and the track take its course then we will have better racing.
ya lets race and quit whining everyone starts at the same gate!!!!
@BillC I agree with your first statement, but on the lap times do you think riding behind someone for the WHOLE race and eating tons of roost had anything to do with slower laps than RV who never even saw dust?
PS: I remember a fight in the 70's when one guy got mad at this other guy and told him he should move over cause I am faster than you LOL. true story.
Wow. Must be RD's monthly cycle.
Just because barcia took out your favorite rider once, or twice maybe, all you pit racers made my day, thank you for all the complaining and whining. Dont like how someone in front of you is riding, pass them, punt them, or just go faster, babies.
Wow. Must be RD's monthly cycle.
Just because barcia took out your favorite rider once, or twice maybe, all you pit racers made my day, thank you for all the complaining and whining. Dont like how someone in front of you is riding, pass them, punt them, or just go faster, babies.
You gotta give credit to Barcia. Honda brought him up for a reason. What did u expect him to drag his ass every lap just to let Dungey pass him. Factory Honda calls you up, you bring your A game. JB did just that. Well done!
Does anyone know if KDUB is gonna race southwick?
Dungey was just flat out frustrated and got a little diarrea of the mouth I think. RV blew past him and the others in both motos to take a 1-1..the only dominating 1-1 we have seen in the 450 class this year ...Barcia did better than I thought he would for sure and I was even more surprised how Dungey could not get close enough to pass him until the last last lap in moto 2 when Barcia made a couple mistakes....If you watch the crash, Dungey actually jumps towards Barcia a little bit as well...so Dungey should just say "that was close" and move on.....Don't turn into Chad Reed RD!!! You had 30+2 to pass the kid and you couldn't do it. Had Barcia not gone off the track, RD would have got 3rd that second moto and 3rd overall...RV is picking the right time to shine and looks good...If Dungey gets frustrated like he did this weekend, he will make mistakes and RV will run away with this title...
I watched the 250 race again, The incident ( so called from Bagget's point of view) was nothing bad in my opinion and nothing to get his panties in a bunch about, They never even touched. Guess he was mad because it was hard for him to get around a "Rookie". And watching the Dungey Barcia crash again wasn't that bad, I think Dungey's upset Barcia Hopped on a 450 and held him off the entire moto till the last lap.
Dungy was not complaining about Barcia not letting him by he was complaining about him making line changes in flight. Let's face it Dungy is going for a championship Barcia has nothing to loose. It he crashes and takes a title contender with him it won't hurt his season at all. No one can complain about a rider dicing for position but the way Barcia changed lines on Dungy over the jump was pure idiotic. If you listen to Barcia in his interview on how was your weekend he even admits it was a stupid move.
These 2 guys are hungry!!!!!!!!
I was a the race.. i love all the kawi guys in the infield were cheering on barcia the entire race. and when barcia went down they were pissed. grow up dungey and stop trying to be the pretty boy of motorcross. shit is getting old. act normal. he was frustrated at himself because he had some kid that his faster than him in front of him that he could not pass. he would catch barcia and barcia would pull him. idc what any of u dungey fans say. hes a fag and barcia straight up rode an awesome race. i cant wait for southwick! lets go 17!!
You guys are funny, over and over saying that Dungey is soo boring and always says the same thing. For once he gets pissed and shows some emotion(Probably not a good feeling flying through the air knowing that you're going to land on someone) and you guys call him a baby. nice.
I don't blame Dungey, Barcia jumped across the table top into Dungey's line. Dungey stayed straight the whole time. I don't think he was upset that it was hard to pass him, he was just upset cause Barcia landed in his line and almost took both of them out. I'd be mad too.
From the TV camera angle, it didn't seem that the incident Baggett was upset about was that bad. It didn't seem to me that Bogle did anything wrong, but I only witnessed it on TV.
2 things!
Dungey needs to be more aggressive early in traffic. Barcia needs to realize that he can be a real hazard out on the track to guys that are faster than him! A wide bike is fine on the dirt but, should never be crossing lines in the air when someone is on their rear tire. Barcia had to of known Dungey was there especially after Barcia made 2 mistakes before that jump. This is where the AMA should be pulling riders aside (to have a chat about safety) who are a danger to everyone around them.
Why do some of you seem so concerned about Dungey?
Villo is going to win the championship!
This goes for RM chair racer and for greatestseasonever. First of all if Dungey was faster than Barcia then he should've had no problems passing him.( RV did )
And we all much rather listen to Dungeys Man Above speach than to hear him cry.
Dungey should have congratulated Barcia for a great race and maybe even asked him if he was OK after the crash.
What a sore looser !!!
Someone said Dungey is trying to be the pretty boy of motocross, that he's a fag? Your funny dude. Barcia is the one with the long flowing locks and pretty boy attitude. It's gotta be frustrating to be at Dungeys level and have some punk kid come in and ride so reckless and then act like he was the shit. It reminds me of Stewart riding like an idiot when ever he gets around Reed. AMA needs to put a bug in these kids ears, ride as fast as you want and win the race but if you endanger other riders being a punk kid then it's off the track you go.
He did say Barcia rode a great race, I'm sure he was just frustrated that Barcia's wild riding style could've ended his season prematurely. Dungey's gonna have enough trouble catching RV w/o dealing with a reckless rookie that isn't even in the points chase. Of course Dungey should've passed him way earlier. Barcia's for real and i'm sure he'll be there for the rest of the races(except for the ones he crashes out of)
'Silly season' picks for guys already looking for new 'rides for 2012;
At the top of the leader board we have: JOSH GRANT & BROCK TICKLE
It takes ballsack to be a good passer, and passing skill is earned.
Dungey lacks the requisite ballsack, and he can't pass gas.
Dungey has a lot of pussass. He'll never become a good passer, he'll never get aggressive, and he'll never become a great champion. He just doesn't have the killer instinct. Just one more smooth rider who has tender feelings. He's the Mister Rogers Neighborhood host of the new millenium.
Apparently comprehension isn't a strong part Pao's brain! Or spelling for that matter! 1st, I think everyone knows that Dungey needs to be more aggressive when it comes to passing as I said. 2nd if Dungey wasn't faster than Barcia.... Then how is it that Dungey could reel Barcia in, take the roost, fallback a little, do it all over again time after time and then finally make the pass when it mattered???? Tell me again how Barcia is faster.... Loser!
It's pretty sad the BB was saying that the rookie pushed him wide and could have hurt him bla bla bla.... This is his 2nd season racing outdoors and first time in a total hunt. So to me your still a rookie BB. He's just mad bc JB is fresh off LL and was galling the mail and now he's going to watch DW run away with the championship. Pu. I guess his head and ego from the El cupracobra shit has gotten to his Cali head. Mitch slap this boy and tell him to practice his starts bc waiting till the 15 min to put the heat on isn't going to work any longer!
Dungey can't pass?
2009 AMA Supercross Lites Champion
2009 AMA 250 Class Motocross Champion
2009 FIM Motocross of Nations Team/MX1 Champion
2010 AMA 450 Class Supercross Champion
2010 AMA 450 Class Motocross Champion
2010 FIM Motocross of Nations Team/MX1 Champion
You're a ballsack, jairtime.
@the real deal wrote - "nobody ever holds anyone up in racing" Yeah right, r u a retard or something, it happens every race. i agree with @Comfortably. Some of u say that RD1 is crying... sounds like ur the ones crying on ur keyboard.
@Tyler - So they're sending you and Bagget to Des Nations? lol... lol
RD1 is the MAN. I would've acted the same way. i'm a big Barcia fan also but he needs to be a little smarter out there. RD1 is a good ol' boy and has my respect.
WOW if Gills, Har Har and You bet see this thread they will piss themselfs because of all the RD bashing!! LOL
KG there was little comp last year when RD did all that winning, I said last year he can't pass and will have a hard time when all the fast guys are back. (1 SX win and 2 nat wins is proff) and I got slamed for it now everyone see's it. The kid is a great rider, smooth and all but like K-Dub is missing that little extra.
He's got to be able to pass people quickly. That requires more aggression and more line choices than he currently applies. He's not walking through a bank - "Excuse me, excuse me..." - he's racing motocross.
The Goat Sucker could take a clue here too, instead of being intimidated by the newcomer who Bogled his mind.
I guess 450's cure mono! Yes BillyC I'm here. I see just as many defending RD. Hey I told you I'm a RV fan but I just call the shots as I see them. Everyone that says anything bad about another rider is just mad that they can beat their rider. There was just two riders that passed Barcia so I can't imagine what what you think of the rest of the riders. All I'm saying is when your a fill in you don't go out of your way to ruin a Cship year for someone, that's called respect RD has raced him enough in the 250's to know what kind of a rider he is. He was like 12 sec. behind in the 1st moto and caught him so he deff. was faster he just knows his history a little better then most. Someday Barcia will be in the same situation some day and he'll learn. By the way I think Honda hurt Reed more by putting him out there.
defend Barcia for riding wild , condemm Js7 for doing the same ??????
You bet... Are you kidding me?? 90% of the posts said things like RD is a cry baby, He can't pass ect... You better go reread this thread if you thing it was 50-50!!!
Looks like Barcia is Dungey's new J-Law....
Is that all you got to say BillC? You probably jack off every time someone says something bad about RD! Get a life man.
I think Barcia rode a great race. He is not supposed to pull over for anyone. He didnt get to be a top pro by pulling over. He was in 2nd place and he is supposed to "let" a guy by him?? WHAT!!. No way, that is a good way to lose your job. Dungey could have done what RV did, and get by him early and get away. Dungey was ahead of RV at the start. He played Mr. Safety too long. Dungey was frustrated, when he has time to calm down and think, he will see that Barcia did nothing wrong, he wasnt slow or a lapper, he was racing period.
@You Bet... Just pointing out that what you said was not true, It obviously really bugs you that you were wrong. Grow up dude.
The thing is, RV got by Barcia in no time flat and RD needed to do the same thing but he didn't. Barcia road a great race and you can't take that away from him.
It's true, one could argue that the competition wasn't there in outdoors & supercross in 2010.
In fact, I'd like to see any of you take that kind of crap-rap to Dungey & the guys on the starting gate in SX or MX..., Watch you get the sh!t beat out of you on national TV. Thats what all you hero's on these blogs should have to go through with all your smack-talk.
The record books in the history of Motocross are not full of *asterisks* in front of a champion's name because certain guys were not in the series or didn't finish a season due to injury, illness or lack of mental toughness.
Racing is what it is- and second place is the first looser. Apparently though,
some of you have already forgotten the previous two Outdoor Nationals and who it was that won the 450 Class overall.
Wilson didn't get his first 2011 overall until Unadilla. Does that mean he deserves the same kind of smack-talk you're lighting up the messages boards with about Dungey? How many of you could even qualify much less keep their pace? Who will be your next victim when they have a less than perfect weekend & give you reason enough to sh!t all over them? Can't wait to find out.
RD1 is still a relatively young guy in the sport. Writing his bio at this point and saying he was never able to pass guys like CR22 & RV2 seems premature. But then again many of you probably suffer from that sort of weakness and at the same time can't see backward or forward very far, so I guess it's to be expected.
Like the 2011 Supercross season, the Outdoor National series in both classes is some of the best racing ever and giving us some great championship battles. Too bad so many of you are so impressed with seeing your own opinions on-line that you can't see the brilliant racing we're witnessing every race weekend.
KG...........amen brother.
Seems like the real cry babies gather here: losing respect for RD over one sentence. Wonder what would happen if #17 put a move like that one over the table top to you guys: shit your pants and run back to your mommie ?
Respect for all ama national riders, no matter what.
Barcia will win an overall before the season is over ,Reeds going backwards , Rv will be the new champ , Dungey will whine himself over to KTM , than fade to top 10 , Stewart will return to Supercross ,on a new Bike , and have some new competition, but they will try to hard , and he will win the championship ,my crystal balls say sooooo!!!!
Reasonable comments & realistic criticisms are one thing but anyone who has ever raced (Pro or Amateur) has a good laugh each week when all you 'experts' start slinging your sh!t about these riders. You're nothin' but a buncha' goons.
Byrne got knocked out of the first 450 moto when a rock hit his front brake....have been looking for photos....I assume he/his team had hand guards on his bike, right?
LOOKING THROUGH THE RULE BOOK. I DIDN'T SEE WHERE YOU NEED TO OPNLY USE YOUR SIDE OF THE TRACK WHEN RACING. YOU CAN RIDE THE WHOLE TRACK NOMATTER WHO IS IN FRONT OR BEHIND YOU
You idiots crack me up. Dungey needs to do this, he should do that, blah blah blah none of you knows anything about anything. Especially Bill C. BillC, saying that Dungey is missign that extra something because he only has two national wins? Villopoto only has two national wins as well you dork, and you are always hanging on his nuts.
How bout the dude in the KTM shirt stalking in the background? haha
Ya might want to reread what I said tdog. I never said because he only has 2 win. Talk about an Idiot!!
RD1 has 3 wins - texas, millville, and wash...
not Texas, i mean colorado
@ BillC Here's an exact quote of what you said:
I said last year he can't pass and will have a hard time when all the fast guys are back. (1 SX win and 2 nat wins is proff) and I got slamed for it now everyone see's it. The kid is a great rider, smooth and all but like K-Dub is missing that little extra.
There it is, haha you chump. I don't even know why I bother, your posts make it obvious how little you really know. Can't even spell proof, hehe. Oh, and way to go out on a limb and predict that RD would have a harder go of it with Reed, Stewart and RV all healthy. How do you make these tough predictions??
Well when I said he won't win like that next year many said I was wrong, He is the new fast guy and will win in 2011 they said.
.If he could make passes better he would have won a few more SX's and the title.
Post after post you hang yourself BillC.
And you still have not taken the bet so you have shown yourself aswell.
@mit12.. so your saying dungey couldnt pass barcia because he had already settled...didnt dungey have time to pass before that like rv2 did..i remember rv2 coming from behind them and passing dungey barcia and allessi....so it wasnt by time dungey got to him dungey was there he just wasnt good enough like rv2...and what do you want to watch a bunch of c and d riders race where the dont cross lines in the air than go to your local track
i see your point about bagget, even though i like watching him, but dungey has a point about barcia kind of riding wreckless and last year in supercross was some unimpressive bangin he did.