Racer X Notebook: Millville
Tuesday, July 19, 2011 | 11:30 AM
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Print- The track crew really had a challenge on their hands at Spring Creek, as it rained about as hard as it could possibly rain on Friday. Luckily, the sandy soil absorbs water pretty well, but still, on Friday people definitely feared the worst. The rain let up for Saturday and the crew scraped off a lot of the mud from the track, with high temperatures and sunshine taking care of the rest. The track was still soft in spots, but most riders were amazed that the track shaped up as well as it did.
- Friday’s wild weather in the Minneapolis area also held up flights for many, and Dean Wilson thinks that played a factor. “I just didn’t drink enough water before the race, and it’s my fault,” he explained. “My flights were really delayed yesterday and I was stuck in airports all day. I didn’t drink enough water and I think I kind of got dehydrated.”
After being pounded by rain on Friday, the track crew still had Spring Creek in pristine condition.
Photo: Brian Robinette
- Ryan Villopoto got a first-hand look at Chad Reed’s wild second moto crash, and although he’s battling Reed for the title, he was definitely worried watching it happen. “It was definitely a bad one,” said Villopoto. “He got a little bit of headshake, and it seemed like his front tire kind of washed up the takeoff, and then it hooked up. It spit him off. I was able to just kind of watch, I kind of jumped past him, and I was looking over at his body flying through the air. I think he got pretty lucky that he got into some of that soft dirt on the side of the jump, because I know there’s a [water truck] road down there, and yeah that’s pretty hard. I’m glad he’s okay.”
- Villopoto struggled in moto one, taking a distant third behind Reed and Ryan Dungey. He made a shock change for moto two, and it improved his performance. “Over the last week, Jake [Weimer] went to California and did some testing. Seemed like they came up with a better setting, I didn’t run it in practice or the first moto, I ran my normal set up. So I felt like it couldn’t get any worse, so I tried it for the second moto. Getting the holeshot helped, too, but I think my bike was better, too.”
- Rumor had it that Blake Baggett had crashed and broken his collarbone last week. Close, but not quite. “It happened last Friday,” he explained. “On Thursday we did a whole bunch of starts and stuff and I was debating not riding on Friday. I was on the last lap, and I crashed on a table top, and the way I was jumping, I couldn’t just bail off. So the bike slammed me into the ground and I dislocated my collarbone. It didn’t even get back into place until Sunday. I have a doctor who got it back into place, but I knew it was going to be sore today. I couldn’t ride all week. It definitely hurt out there, and I’ve just got to figure out a way to get through this one and then Washougal next week.”
Baggett is battling a collarbone injury after a practice crash last week.
Photo: Brian Robinette
- The GIECO Honda 250 riders spent a week after RedBud at Mike LaRocco’s house in Indiana doing some hard training. But they still had a rough weekend. Justin Barcia had a yet another wild ride in moto one, as he crashed hard on one of the fastest sections of the track--the straight after the start—and landed face-first. A classic face plant! Barcia broke his nose and was expected to be out for the day, in fact, they even tore his bike down. But 45 minutes before the second moto, Barcia changed his mind and decided to try to race, so his mechanic Snikey went back to work rebuilding the bike in a hurry! Barcia got to the line and gutted out a sixth in the second moto. "I’m happy I went out there. It took a lot of heart to finish the race but I made it through,” Barcia said. "I need to get some X-rays this week and make sure nothing else is broken and just take it easy for a couple days before next weekend’s race. I think boot camp helped a lot though. It toughened us up and made us stronger for this race and races to come."
- Things were tough for his teammate Eli Tomac, too. Tomac was running near the top five late in moto one when he became so overheated that he stopped on the track to get some water. "Throughout the race the heat really started to get to me and I felt really weird," Tomac said. "I needed to save myself so I pulled off the track with only a few laps left. I felt much better in the second moto with the cloud coverage so that helped. Hopefully I’ll have much more energy next weekend." The heat had a similar effect on Darryn Durham in the second moto, dropping him from just outside the top five to 33rd.
- Wil Hahn had the team’s best results, going 9-8 for 7th overall. "I was pretty happy with my races,” said Hahn. “The track was really rough and the humidity was just unreal. For the second moto I put myself in a good spot. I went wide and got into the deep stuff. I didn’t have the intensity at the beginning. Everyone else was riding really hard in the beginning and I just didn’t bring that intensity. Not my best day but not my worst."
- Kevin Windham struggled a bit at Millville, taking 10th overall. "I never fully recovered from RedBud," Windham said. "I feel like the tank is empty and I just don’t have much left. I like this track a lot and enjoy all the fans here supporting us, especially in humidity, but this heat is really getting to me and I’m not happy with what places I have been finishing in." In fact, a few members of the Honda team were apparently doing some dances inside the team semi to try to get K-Dub pumped up! Indeed, the full-season schedule is starting to wear on the 33-year-old, but he’ll be racing again this weekend at Washougal.
- The Muscle Milk Toyota JGR team was without Davi Millsaps. Davi has a bone bruise in his knee after twisting it at RedBud, and jamming his femur into his tib/fib. Millsaps will test the knee again this week in an attempt to recover for Washougal. Justin Brayton considers Millville his home race, as he hails from Fort Dodge, Iowa, about three hours away. He had a tough day. In moto one he got tangled up in the first turn and then crashed in the sand whoops a few turns later. He came back to 12th. In moto two, he battled the whole way with Brett Metcalfe, Jake Weimer and Tommy Hahn, taking seventh.
- Rockstar Makita Suzuki’s Brett Metcalfe was more confident coming into the race thanks to major progress on bike setup throughout the first half of the season. But he crashed in a muddy spot in moto one, landing him in sixth. He didn’t get as good of a start in moto two but finished fifth.
- Lucas Oil/Troy Lee Designs Honda’s Christian Craig hurt his wrist in practice and wasn’t able to finish either 450 moto.
- Red Bull KTM’s Mike Alessi had a quiet but effective day, going 4-4 for fourth overall. JDR J-Star KTM’s Tye Simmonds had his best race yet in the U.S. The 18-year-old Aussie went 9-12 for 11th overall.
Alessi was solid at Millville, going 4-4 for fourth overall.
Photo: Brian Robinette
- Valli Motorsports Rockstar Yamaha rider Nick Wey got caught in a hard first turn crash and banged his head a bit. He soldiered on for 29th, then took 15th in moto two on a tough day.
- DNA Shred Stix/Star Racing Yamaha’s Kyle Cunningham now has four-straight fourth-place finishes in the 250 motos.
- Rockstar Suzuki rookie Jason Anderson was back in action at Millville after taking a month off to rebuild his training program with new trainer Randy Lawrence. There seemed to be some improvement, as Anderson fought hard all the way through the end of moto two, going 10th overall with 14-10 scores.
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Good article, lots of information, can't wait for "Shougal".
This is an awsome season, and getting allo the motos on TV has been great!
Now if Rockstar could find another 3 horsepower he might be able to run with the PC guys.
Now we have heard the word. We wanted RV's take on the Reed get off and we have it. peace
This just in...Barcia and Tomac forced to sign SX only contacts for 2012!!!
Can somebody tell me why Cairolli is whooping 450's on a 350 KTM. lthis past weekends GP was Epic. I just dont understand why Alessi and Shorty are having problems with 350
I have to bring it up....How bout John Dowd? That guy is inspiring to all....he's 28 years older than some of the guys on the line and still finished damn near midpack!! Great Job Dowd, thanks for keeping it entertaining!!
Not sure of the answer of Cairolli but at the Motocross of Nations last year in Colorado Short on a Honda 450 was pulling him a good 25 feet on long start straight. He then had to make it up on other parts of the track to close and eventually came up short on a long jump and hurt his neck. Hills suck power. Odd though 250 times on certain tracks are sometimes not that far off.
Can any team break the PC strangle hold on the Championships?
@RMZIZZLE- "FACT OR FICTION"?
You kidding me? There is PC then a bunch of guys crashing it out for 4th place.
"whooping 450's on a 350 KTM"
MXsports riders are much faster than the FIM riders, you cant spot them 100cc and hope to win.
@CZRIDER- I was there at Thunder Valley seeing the same thing. That long triple, the 350 lacked the few extra ponies for Cairolli to clear that jump. You could see where he would case it up top.
dgizzy the answer is simple, Cairolli is not racing the big boys REED, RV, RD, in fact he might get lapped.
Forgot to mention Dowd . Thanks John, when I saw 16 go by I was hoping it was you. Nice ride and great inspiration. Have followed motocross since the 70's and told friends on the drive home I was one of the oldest spectators there. Football has old fans but not sure why there are not many old fans at the races. Its been around long enough.Anyway sure good to see a competitive rider for over 20 years. Dowd and Henry have always been class acts. Was great to watch Windham and Dowd talking to each other on the sighting lap rolling through the monster whoops. It looked like two good friends wishing each other well before going into battle. A highlight Speed TV will never show. Made 8 hour drive worth it.
Thanks Kevin and John .
I don't mean to disrespect world championship riders either, but agree with the above. The guys TC is racing on his 350 aren't at ALL what he would be racing here in the AMA.
Why did RV beat the Euro's on a 250? Why can't the Euro's best anyone using a 450?
Alessi is on a 450. Cairolli would have the same finishes as Shorty over here racing against the same guys on the same equipment. The hills at Spring Creek are steep if you've never been. Pictures don't do it justice and the extra 100cc makes a difference every lap. I'm betting Shorty wishes he had the 450.
Alessi is on a 450. Cairolli would have the same finishes as Shorty over here racing against the same guys on the same equipment. The hills at Spring Creek are steep if you've never been. Pictures don't do it justice and the extra 100cc makes a difference every lap. I'm betting Shorty wishes he had the 450.
How about KTM making a 400 2 stroke for next year's Nationals? That would be cool to see and would erase any HP differential easily. KTM might need to go with a cheaper solution if they sign another big rider like Dungey...
@jd805- I beleive Short was the given the option on which bike he wanted to ride. They were out here at Milestone testing and he made the decision to race the 350. Can he switch to the 450 now, who knows.
Great thought on the 400 two stroke . Would be great and would make riding more affordable. However as in the 250 class the AMA (Politically controlled by the power factories) would not allow it. They will not in the 250 and will not in the 450. Its all about money and politics. Forgot to add power and sometimes corrupt power. Kind like Washington D.C. Maybe the sport would grow. Did anyone notice there were no qualifiers for extra riders to make the national. Has the sport become two expensive?? It could be embarassing if they have a national and only thiry riders show. The AMA is just a puppet and handed off the Nationals to Lucas . AMA choice of "des nations riders" of the past only confirms that.
This KTM discussion is very interesting. KTM has a lot of money and the company has had success in the past in the 125 2-stroke class. In 2003 it was Langston and Hughes #1 and #2 in the Outdoor championship. Hansen won a 125 SX championship also. KTM is doing very well in the World GP, though I agree we have the top guys here. Short is doing about the same on his 350 as he was doing on his Honda CRF 450.
If KTM signs Dungey this will be the first time they have had a marquee rider in the big-bike class. We all know DeCoster’s commitment and track record at Honda and Suzuki. If KTM offered Dungey big bucks, he would be crazy to not sign. Remember, people thought Carmichael was crazy to sign with Suzuki given its track record. Worked out pretty well as I recall and due in large part to DeCoster.
to all the people who thought baggett had it in him in his first year to win a title... he is a crasher, practice or race, and his ways bit him and cost him this title just like everyone who actually follows the sport would know.
Looks like some of these factory pros need to step up their training programs into the "unfadeable" category. I'm surprised that Tomac hasn't done that yet. They have to exceed what they've done in the past, and exceed what people tell them are training programs. I went from being weak in high heat riding one class to riding four pro classes with 30 minute motos, being strong all the way, and losing 20 pounds in one day. Factory pros who fade in the heat can get in that kind of shape too!
You gotta figure that if the 2 stroke has 5 to 8 horses over a 4 stroke but the 4 stroke maintains its advantage in torque that it would come down to rider preference on how each type of bike reacts on different sections of the track. Would be cool to see the cost of racing come down. Ultimately if the factories aren't selling bikes to the public for racing then the market will fizzle out.
@flickitflat, you don't have a clue.JD805 if Cairolli were racing here he would be doing much better than Short.I think you would be susprised how fast the top 4 Euro riders are. AC22 also pulls a lot of holeshots on that 350.
jairtime, they are in shape, at least you would think so when it's their job. I gotta figure that staying hydrated is a bigger issue with the work they put in all week. That being said, I loved the heat when I raced. I worked outside painting houses in the sun all day, would ride and train after work, lived without A/C, and basically put myself in position to be the strongest in the 2nd motos. Big bumps and big heat, bring it on!! Now i'm a 43 year old chasing kids around a t-ball field for training and maybe riding once a month just to remind myself what its like!!
@CZMark.keep in mind that the jump AC222 was having problems with a MXDN was at 5000+ft altitude.If that jump was at sea level he would of had no problems with it.I guess you also forgot about that great start that he got there on that 350 as well.He pulls holeshots a lot in mx1.
Sorry Fred. I thinking he would be battling Alessi for 5th. I think if Shorty were on a 450 he would be battling for 5th and 4th as well. Honestly don't thing the KTMs are agreeing with Shorty based on past National performances. I think the body of work on the KTM guys is enough to say that they aren't going to do any better than what they have done in the past. IMO
I disagree that Cairolli would be lapped. Do you all remember MXON when Cairolli almost got Dungey for the win on that same 350 bike? He had closed in to less than a sec then he jammed his foot.
CZrider, JonR290 & jd805, great comments. Remember the 20+ pounds the two strokes save over the thumpers as well. That & gyroscopic effect have an effect whether it's at the start or end of a moto. A 400cc 2-stroke would've roosted a lot of faces in the Millville sand this past weekend, quite possibly the top three included.
KTM / DeCoster will be a force in SX / MX in no time. Well funded (Red Bull), well motivated and well staffed, they only need the talent...........oh yeah, they have Roczen, Musquin, Short, Alessi & Dungey*, check, check and check.
I'm STILL out on the 350.........unless they remove half of the strokes.
Stupid and uninformed opinions regarding Ciaroli and the 350 on here. The 350 was designed for GP´s, which are longer and raced on far tougher tracks than AMA events. They aren´t sprint races, and the emphasis is on useable power, rideability and endurance. If, as many on here claim, the 350 is outgunned, how do you account for the fact Tony and Max have most of the holeshots this year?
Also, stop making idiots of yourselves saying things like Ciaroli will get lapped and
the like. He´s the damn world champion, you morons, not a national champion. The MXON is a sort of fun thing for most European riders. Their season has just ended and they are out of gas. Stop pretending you are so damn great just because the whole of America can beat up a divided European continent. If you really wanted a fair contest, you would insist on a USA verses EU competition, each side picks their top 20. I´ll tell you what, under those rules you´d get your rear ends handed to you.
No wonder you dicks have a reputation of being loud mouths over here.
@Carlsbad, don't forget the bike would cost less as well.
Fitness - I found it odd that at Red Bud, RV had a get off in moto 1, had a hard charging ride up to 9th and then convincingly took care of business in moto 2 on a much hotter day, which unfortunatly contributed to the death of a rider, yet at Millville he appeared to fade a little.......Maybe Dungey is used to it being his home stomping grounds and had that extra energy for he muggy heat of spring creek....All these dudes are in excellent shape, well most of them I guess....but it safe to say RV, Dungey and Reed are in top shape......
If Dungey goes to KTM, he will be on a 450....no question.
Mike! Switch to Decaf! Who said Cairolli would be lapped??? So far Mike you have the been the loudmouth... Winnah winnah chicken dinnah!!
@Mike I agree with you.Just imagine a MXON team of Rockzen.Reed,Cairolli.That team would be a true threat to our best team.
MX des continents!
@ fred- no questioning on ACs talents or speed or even how he was flying at Thunder Valley, it was just that one jump where he was getting out pulled. I also beleived he jammed his wrist pretty good because I believe he cased it a few times.
Trust me, I wanted to where he shines against the others. At 5000 ft. the disadvantage should have been the same for all. But then again, the loss of couple extra ponies for that 350 could have made big difference. It's my understanding there is about a 3% loss for every 1000 feet?
As for that Dream 400cc KTM 2 stroke? anything is possible in the next evolution of motorcylces. I had a old freind developing for strokes back in the day, Skip Clark of Pro TEC. The same bikes that Staten and RJ rode. Well you couldn't give one of those to me, 2 strokes were the only way to go. So what do I ride now, what the markets sell(4 stokes). Nothing sweeter than the sound and smell of 2 stokes. Some talk about direct injecton 2 strokes, but who knows. I think its all about bureaucracy, on what dicates our future.
I heard that Short chose the 350 because KTM was not going to be developing the 450 anymore & he wanted a bike that they were going to keep developing. I think KTM is reconsidering the 350 in the US. I bet they go back to the 450. The 350 just has not worked for them in the US. Time will tell.
Mike- you are simply loco.... line up the best 20 american riders against the best 20 riders from europe (remember Reed, Metcalf and Bryne are Australian) and the USA would win easily.
Now that being said, your excuse of why euros dont dominate at the MX of Nations is simply a poor excuse as the race certainly has ability for individual performance from any country. The fact is that the USA dominates this event with only three of our best riders.... This year, we could send RD, RV, TC, BB in a combination with of over a dozen other USA riders and win the event. Yes indeed the field is deep here that is why all the Euro best want to come to the USA to race a "National Championship" which is far tougher than a name only "World" Championship
Also Mike- your Euro riders are out of gas after the mx season? Amazaing since all of the US riders also race a full supercross seaon before the outdoors even start! Let's see if Barragan, the Russian guy, or Nagl could handle that..... of those who have tried in the past, most end up injured at the first event and wouldn't even make it to the mx series so figure that into your equation
CZmark If KTM made that bike I would probably buy one.I would wait for MXA to test it though.IF KTM could get the jetting right I would buy one.I remember those 350s that KTM had.Those things were fickle.
@fred, if you have been riding as along as I have, I think you have, don't want anything thats fickled. Just fire it up a go. Thats what alrady pisses me off about 4 strokes. I make more progress with a 300lb fat chick, than getting my bike fired up after a crash on a hot summer day. One day it will be auto clutch and training wheels. Oh, that sounds like a quad. lol
400cc 2 stroke would kill. I owned ktm300exc's for years and it seemed close to a 450. But a 400cc would kill. I remember in the early 90s honda had a fuel injected 400 2 stroke proto type. I have the Dirt Bike or dirtwheels or watever it was in. But factories are in the motorcyle and PARTS.
What is interesting is we are talking about KTM. That is good advertising. Dungey going there and having success will make things very interesting. In the end we will all benefit. If KTM makes a better bike under DeCoster’s guidance, the other manufacturers will follow and all bikes will get better. Never underestimate what a company with motivation, proper guidance and a lot of cash can accomplish.
jonR290, The KTM may already be a better bike. Lots of people thinks so any way.
@Jonr209- good point. Me thinks BMW will follow suit one day with Husky. Deep pockets for lots of R&D.
The "readers" who think that Cairoli would get lapped should note how well Tony C. did at the GP in Cali. In addition, there are other GP riders as well who would be front runners in either the 250 or the 450 class in the states. Certain "readers" need to do some research!
Also, the rider leading the 450 class is an Aussie and two of the riders at the top of the 250 class are from other countries. Having one's facts straight before one argues a point is an intellectual skill that appears to be way, way beyond some of the "readers" who posts replies.
@Mike I know you hate Americans and you are very biased in your opinions, so read this please. First off, you want an entire continent vs. one country in the Des Nations?? Just so the USA might lose, you hate us so badly (or just jealous) that you would cheat ;ike that to get a win. We still may win, and your win would be a shallow one. Second, the GP races are only maybe 5 minutes longer, not much really, and our guys are easily in good enough shape for it. And you make the excuse about the Des Nations being at the end of the GP season and the Euro's are out of gas. Well guess what, it is only a week after the AMA Nationals end too, so what about the US riders being out of gas??
I am not going to discount Carolis talent, but he isnt Irish like yourself, so it doesnt do anything for you. But the only loudmouth I here is YOU. You are so angry its sad, your life there in Ireland must really suck. Because I met some pretty cool people when I was there..
And there is only one track on the GP's that is seriously rough, the sand track. Take that one race away, and the GP's are NOT rougher than the USA tracks. There have been several Euro riders who come here and race the Nationals and say so themselves. I have read the interviews several times. Its just a bunch of bull from jealous GP fans who say it too make thier series seem important.
@MIKE, if you hate American moto so badly, and are so jealous, why do you spend so much time on an American moto site that follows the Nationals 99% of the time?? Oh yea, its the best series thats why..
@bd200's ego wouldn't fit on an airplane to go watch a live GP
Yes- many of us are LOUDMOUTHS- and FAST too! so?
Mike how long have you been into mx? Im no expert by any means by I see a long pattern of GP champions going to the States and having to adapt to the speed of American MX. All the french guys DV12,Tortelli, Pichon, South Africas Ratray, Langston, and Albertyne etc etc all had to adapt to the speed and aggression of the USA. If Reed was still in the GPs it would look like RC at the 03 MXdN every race. just my opinion.
I always read these comments and I have never posted a comment on any these articles here before, but I have say @bd200, you sir, are one of the biggest ramrod meatsticks in the history of internet message boards!! I litterally feel embarassed for you everytime I read one of your posts. You are an INSECURE fool, so please quit making us American's look like a bunch of arrogant, crybaby pricks. Not every pro-European opinion/idea is a jab at the USA, thats just your obvious insecurities surfacing. I follow all MX on a weekly basis reagardless of where and what series it is and to read how ignorant some people can really be just blows my mind. We have probably the highest concentration of talent racing our AMA Nationals, but to discredit all other riders in the world who don't race in the AMA is completely rediculous. Some of you need to get your heads checked. Rant over... :)
@TimElliot you are my Hero.....I really wish someone would stick a pin in @bd200's ego! He's gonna float away one day with a head that swelled up
US against everyone else. Our country is just too big so thats why we are fast. LOL. Why we dont dominate Soccer then? Maybe China and Russia will be the next fast country to come along- plenty big. Rather than cry every year, why not twist the throttle harder? When AC went down head first last year, he didnt even try to start his bike up, just walked off. Didnt try, go re-watch it. Could that be the difference right there? Its larger BALLS not just a larger country.
@bd200 I have to side with the last 3 guys....you sir are out of line, no one likes a bigot and guess what MANY foreigners have came here and handed our USA horses their A$$es in MX and SX dating way back to the 70's! How can you call yourself a fan on MX when half of our riders are from other countries and they have came here and won titles, lots of money and fine american women!!!??? What a meat head, I mean seriously dude get a life cause we all just love the sport and who cares what nationality wins the championship? Have you seen our other sports? Baseball, Basketball, Football, Hockey? Not really such a thing as American dominance in any of those sports tough guy!
In my opinion @jairtime and @bd200 are the same person because they sure have a lot of hate for anything of import or color and both seem to have ego's the size of a goodyear blimp. It must be painful to go through life with that much hatred for people who they do not even know. These losers probably have never even rode a motorcycle let alone race one. Heck for all we know they are probably some 13 year old rubber person who doesn't even have bag hairs yet.
im glad for cunningham, though bummed about barcia and think he should just sit out and heal up because he is probably 90% at best now. heal up, reenergize and come back healthy and swinging in 2012.
CzMark exactly.Oh yeah.I hate to break this to you.I hooked up with that 300lb chick of your's the other night.Sorry about that.I got a date with her tonight.Were going to do a big hogeaten.
I absolutely love the argument that the des Nations is just a "fun" event for Euros and they don't care much about it. Thats not how they acted when they were winning it. Also this crap about being at a disadvantage because our country is big and countries in Europe are small, what a joke. Shouldn't that logic lead you to believe that India and China would be motocross powerhouses? Fact is, in most European countries your best guys have just as much opportunity to work on their skills and be just as good as the Americans, but they aren't. Our National champ will whoop your "World"champ 9 times out of 8. Now sit down to a heaping plate of crow and eat it!
Nice that you mentioned and talked a lot about the top 3 in the 450 class. Wait, you only talked about two of the top 3. Ryan Dungey gets a mention in a comment about Villapoto? From the sound of your article Dungey was a non factor in it. How about his brilliant riding in moto two to get around Villo? He was clearly faster AND made one of the biggest passes in his career, and did it clean. That's as much a part of the story as anything Villo was. Journalistic integrity? You need to get some.
Nikola,there is a really good chance that the USA is not going to have a national champion this year.So how do you like your crow.
You guys can say what you want, but MIKE has came on here and slammed all Americans and called us names for no reason, so I will defend myself and my country. MIKE is the one calling all Americans loudmouth pricks. If you would read my post, I said that I would not take away anything from Caroli, I just said his excuse that the GP riders are burned out from thier season isnt going to fly, because the National season ends a week before the Des Nations, so the AMA guys will be just as tired.
@Tim Eliiot, before you run your suckhole, maybe you should read Mikes statement first, he called Americans dicks and loudmouths, but you act as if his post is fine. So what gives there, what he says is OK, and I defended my country.
@keepinitrealforstewie--I dont really expect anything from you unless its defending Stewie.
@GPfan, you have no clue of anything about me, for your information, my favorite riders include DV12, and Grant Langston, I am just not going to sit around and let some HATING BIGOT slam my country which is what MIKE does.
So dont attack me for defending myself or my country from a real bigot like MIKE. All he does every time he post is hate on the USA, and I will defend it till the end, unlike some guys who act like they dont care.
Since this article was about Millville I do want to give some props to John Martin, owner of Spring Creek and father of Alex Martin. They put on a great pro event, are superb at track maintenance and run great amateur races. His track is just as well maintained for the amateur races as the pro national.
Three years ago my son and I arrived for a Sat practice the night before and that night got some snow. Practice was cancelled but John felt so bad we drove there along with 6 other riders the day before practice he opened the track to us, all 8 of us. The sun came out, snow melted, and temp rose to 55 degrees. We 8 riders had a pro national track to ourselves the whole day courtesy of John. The guy is pure class.
Man- some of you guys cutting down on bd200 for defending the good ole USA?? Did any of you read Mikes post, he calls Americans dicks and loudmouths and you guys cut down a guy for defending the US?? What a bunch of pus#ies we have become. Your Grandparents would be discusted with you cowards.. Mike, quit hating or stay away. BD200, I got your back, but these pussie# here dont..
Listen idots,I mean idiots, Mike did not call us loudmouths.He said no wonder everyone else calls us loudmouths.He's right the euros are faster than you give them credit for.He's also right because most of you on here a dicks.Big stupid dicks that only blab and never really read what the guy said.He's just frustrated because of all the stupid on here.
Being a US Marine, I will defend the USA every day as indeed many in the World are jealous/haters of us..... that being said, I never once indicated that that there are not talented riders in Europe... As a matter of fact, I think there are some darn fast guys racing the GP's for sure. That being said, the GP series is not tougher than the US Nationals especially as I indicated, almost all US top riders also race a full SX series immediately before the outdoor series. None of the Euros can say that except to a small degree, Roczen, and he was lucky to make it through 6 SX races (in the lites class) without being seriously injured from his multiple US soil samples. So, I belive I did read Mikes comments and offered a different opinion.
MBMoto I wasn't talking about you brcause you were right about the top twenty thing.But if you took our top 5 against World gp top 5.There is a good chance that we would get our feelings hurt.I swear I thought Roczen was going to kill his self before the SX series ended for him.The kid had me worried.We'll see what Marvins got next week.
@mike ..are you telling me a 450 can't have useable managable power and longevity....why? The 350 looks to me to be an experiment, it works some places and someplaces it does not. If you think your tracks are rougher try riding them a gear higher like our guys.You think that we're dicks and loudmouths ,...it ain't braggin if you can back it up......trust me you do not want to go 350 against RV or RD or Canard on fo'fitys....@fred ..the only problem ktm 2 strokes (72-11)had with jetting is guys that don't know sh*t trying to jet them , especially Bings which were like jetting an anvil. Maybe all riders should get on the @jair training plan where he went from being so tired he punched his own friend in the face for not holding his bike (his words -not mine ) to doing 4 ..yes 4 pro motos with enough juice left to give Tomac a training lesson .
Fred- would be cool to see both a top 5 and a top 20 race from Euro (or even the World other than US) and the US... Even better would be a real World Championship with all of the best talent from all of the various series' racing one series. That would be awesome!
Tonewall I was talking about am late 90's KTM350 two stroke.Did you ever have a Yamaha zy 490? Factory Yamaha couldn't jet one of those.
Has anyone been to a national lately? There are many of US americans who are loudmouth A$$holes who think they are better than other countries. I will defend our country to an extent but some of these idiots at the tracks nowadays give the USA a bad name. Especially the ones at the local level....it's at a point that I barely enjoy it. 50 year old men cussing each other out about getting cut off over who gets a 5 dollar trophy, I'm sorry I'm an American but some of us are jokes to other countries and they have the right to call it like they see it just as we do.
@bd200 I'm sorry that's all you got for me is that once again you had to bring up James Stewart you creep. Dude you seriously need a life because you are not the god/ the ruler/ or the mediator of this message board, as an American I have the right to say and comment on whatever I feel. I'm sorry that you are a few fries short of a happy meal and that you live to make personal attacks on people and who they root for in Motocross, I really feel sorry for you that your ego is SOOOOO huge that you have to spend every waking moment ripping on fans of motocross. Truly sad....
Can't we all agree we all have our favorite riders and we're all fans of Motocross. As to the size of the USA making a difference, I disagree. Belgium is a pretty small country, and they're got more World Champions then anybody.
@fred alot of the trouble was around that time fuel was turning to cr*p. jetted alot of pinging ,seizing 400-490 yamahas ,KTM's with great success. Alot of time just not rev-ving big bore two strokes like a 125 would fix the problem....lol (providing all other factors are correct) Use good hi -octane leaded fuels ,make sure comp ratio and timing are correct ,get out the jets and a Sudco book and go to work. Why would they build and sell a bike that could not be jetted?.A lot of times bikes need smaller carbs to work at higher altitudes properly. Some bikes are more difficult than others but with time and enough jets and needles and patience it can be done . Normally it's not a big deal.
Totally agree with Moto4Life. And I never said the National champ would be American, I just said he would whoop the world champ.
What about Tyla Rattray? He must have been too smooth to make the article because he was on it this weekend, and making the rough stuff look too easy. I was glad to see Dungey bring the heat to Villopoto, but man, if Reed would not have gone down I think he was plotting to do some serious damage on the rest of the field in moto two. With that said, Reed must be living right to have been able to walk/ride away from that one. And I can't wait to see what Canard has got for these guys in the coming weeks...
As for some of the ridiculous comments made, I believe anyone who thinks that Cairoli or any of the top GP guys are not on par with the top AMA guys, must be blind, ignorant, or both...I guess people forget about Unadilla last year, when Stewart made his glorified return to motocross...for a day. While another guy by the name of Clement Desalle came over from the GP series to race his first AMA outdoor...for a day... Well it turns out, Stewart (the "fastest man on the planet" - joke) was bested by an underrated (in the US) foreigner, who went on to be the second fastest on that day, next to Dungey....And then Desalle later went on to finish the GP series in second place, next to Tony Cairoli....soooo you do the math...But anyways, the haters are about to see what the euros can really do when Musquin gets back up to speed, and then when Roczen comes back next year...
I say Redbull, Monster, Rockstar, and whoever pitch in for an invite only race...and invite top 10 GP riders, and top 10 AMA riders, for each class (250s and 450s)...and then let the world see whats up...
@KeepinitReal-- are you serious?? I as have everyone else on here sees YOU bring up Stewart almost every day. You compare how Reed is treated to how " another rider" as you call him. Constantly. And you make an accusation like that to someone else?? Are you for real?? NOBODY brings up Syewart most of the time until YOU comment on it, and you bring him up.. Why do you think alot of posters on here refer to you as "keepinitrealforstewart"?? Get real..
I would like one of you "attackers" to tell me what bd200 posted that was wrong?? When did he ever say the GP riders wernt any good. And when did he slam anyone except the American hater Mike?? And he catches hell?? Maybe some of you guys are getting on the wrong guy..
@Tim Elliot-- you sir are a TOOL.
By the way, Reedie logged way more hang time with his yard sale last weekend than Stewie did at the Daytona SX. If you think I am incorrect watch the videos.
@ Reed It ... Although I am a Stewie fan, I watched the tapes and you have it straight. But Stewie is still faster than Reedy.
@Reed It & Beef Stewart
Both of you seem to be forgetting Villo's SX yard sale ... and Villo broke his leg!
Therefore, I think that Villo deserves extra credit for sustaining an injury!
And Villo will win the outdoors! Just watch!
Here are this weekend's results ahead of time: Dungey wins both motos!
Here is a statement from Mike"No wonder you dicks have a reputation of being loud mouths over here." This was cut and pasted from Mikes comments. Mike must be a very angry man. Everytime he comes on here, he looks for an argument.
He must be very insecure about himsel and his life. He must be still suffering from that chip on his shoulder. As for the guys who defend us such as bd200, right on!
Mike why don't you grow some balls nd move on. If you like these posts that you see, don't read them. If you don't like anything you see here that personally offends you, then go somewhere else. But if like to be verbally tortured, just hang around and keep running you mouth. Someone here will have fun with it!
@fred, DAMM YOU! I spent 3 months at Golden Corral working that chick. Now I am going to have to find someone else. Also I hope that fat ass collaspes the suspension on your bike. ha ha
Seems my post upset some people on here. I apologise for that, however, I´ve been following MX all my life, in the States, Europe, you name it, and while I agree the American stars are awsome, anyone who disrespects the GP boys, JUST BECAUSE THEY AREN`T AMERICAN, will feel my wrath.
BTW, I´m not Irish, I´m German and have been following Kenny since he was 7 years old, and I could have told you then that he was going to kick the world´s ass one day. He won the 85 W/C as a 12 year old, against 15 year old´s from all over the world. When he and Jeffery Herlings, who is almost as good, finally arrive to race in the USA, which is the top series due to the fact Youthsteam have destroyed the GP´s credibility because to their greed, then you will have the fastest riders in the world in the AMA. Until then you´ll just have to accept the fact that the best are yet to come.
BTW, I don´t hate Americans. I think you are dicks for letting half of Mexico invade your land, and I think you are a brainwashed bunch of loons, but I love you guys because you have good hearts. It´s not your fault a bunch of criminals have hijacked your government.
Tonewall,They sell shit all the time that should not of been sold.Here an example[1982 Honda CR450} Heres another[1980 or 81 KX 125} These were major pieces of shit that should not of been sold to the public.The main problem in those yz 490 was a bad design.They didn't have enough blots holding the clyinder to the cases which would cause major air leaks.Yet Yamaha sold that PS for years.Here another example of PS.Any bike sold with a bing carb.You should know that better than anyone.
TO CZMark and SOUERKRAUT MIKE.CZ don't worry about that fat chick.I think I might of hit a fat wrinkle.I was out of flour so I couldn't find the sweet spot.CZMark you need to give Mike a break.He was a 100% correct on just about everything that he commented on.I couldn't quite understand why everyone was bashing on him yesterday.
Anyone who thinks 222 can cut it is nuts IMO, He pushed RD and almost passed him at the MXD last year and was only 5 or 6 sec back at the end I think. Dif day Dif track who knows.
@mbmoto. something should be done to make the MXON more competitive with the US riders.Maybe take the best from EU as one team.Then take English rule countries and combine them and then US.What I would really like to see is have 5or6 races combined with GPs and AMA nationals.Then we could have like a Trans-AM series with in two other series.Now that would be cool.This will probably never happen because of the greed and egos of Youthstream and MX Sports.
@MIKE, of course your post upset some people, I dont think I have ever seen you post anything without an insult to the USA or its people. I myself havent seen one. And you say we are dicks for "letting" half of Mexico invade us?? We are a free country, they are allowed in if the follow the law, but what does that have to do with moto?? And how does that make moto fans or all Americans dicks?? I think you have anger or jealousy issues.
And you are on an American moto site, and you cut Americans and wonder why you catch hell, what do you exspect, and yes the majority are going to be fans of the American riders, just like you are of the German or Euro riders. So how are we any different?? Most of the guys here(myself included) have alot of respect for the Euro riders. I think Roczen is awesome, love to watch the kid ride. And I do think Cairoli is a very good rider, which I posted earlier. I am also a fan of DeSalle, loved his ride at Unadilla last year. But I will not sit and let anyone post every post calling Americans dicks or stupid or whatever, I will defend myself, just as you would if I posted some derogitory comments about you or your homeland.
AC lapped ? really ? Is he racing a KTM prototype 4-wheeler ? The Nations is just a " FUN " race for the EUROS ???? For the euros under GP contract and not able to race in the states , this is their shot to see where they stack up with the current fastest racers in the world....
villimoto and beef stew...... your both right stewie is faster than reed and so is Dungey and Villipoto.......as you have witnessed though somebody has a hard time being consistent so im assuming you would not bet on your comment especially after your boy villo was caught from behind and dumped like a bag of rocks last week. Are you really that confident ?
RD beat AC by 10 seconds at the desnations- after slowing for the finish
like Reed or not he is "THE" most consistent rider the sport has ever seen.
and if JS7 was racing the nats. we would all forget about the top three slow guys ...LOL here we go , let the bashing begin ...
Germany huh? Do you really want to start comparing what the stupid Germans have done? And your hijacked government? come on, look in the mirror brother before bringing out the hatred
Maybe ´m talking from experience? Ever thought of that douche bag?
Wake up fella. Vote someone like Ron Paul into the big chair. He´s the only honest guy you got.
looks like your experience hasnt taught you a thing. I wont call out your country, but you sir can suck my over sized balls. and yes, the U.S. National riders are faster overall than the GP riders, have been since the 80's, just so you are clear on this.
@fred, Mike is more than welcome to his voice is opinions and veiws. I have been to Germany twice and really liked it there. There is a lot of great talent in Europe. He may not like the veiws and opinions expressed by others anf those may feel the same about him. But by calling everyone a loud mouth and a dick just isn't cutting it. Thats why I was hard on him. Oh ya, when you are done with tons of fun, don't send her back to me.
@Mike, have a good day! Keep moto'in dude.
Mike, You're right about Ron Paul. He's so right for the country, it'll never happen (as much as I hope it would). As for the rest, it's all just bench racing. Everyone has an opinion and we share them here. There are different personalities on here, some more aggressive, some immature, etc, etc.
I've posted before how much of a flag waiver I am and I'm certainly not shy to admit it. That said, I like a lot of foreign riders, Roczen especially (although, I'm very melancholy on the French) When Ireland comes up with some talent, you'll really hear me squak.
Like some others, I do take offense when the U.S. is spoken of harshly about by foreigners but, I'm probably one of the first to complain about our failings, of which, you have several excellent points.
Long story short, we are all racers and / or enthusiasts of the sport and that is a common denominator. The squabbling is just noise.