Racer X Race Report: Thunder Valley
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PrintAt the conclusion of the second 450 moto at the Toyota Trucks Thunder Valley National in Colorado, Ryan Dungey and his mechanic Mike Gosselaar went into their normal debrief. Under a tent near the finish line, Dungey talked about the lines he took, Goose explained what he saw, and the conversation didn’t seem any different than usual. Until finally Dungey just stopped talking. He looked to his mechanic and smiled. Gosselaar smiled back.
“This is a good feeling,” said Dungey. “I missed it.”
Dungey, Gosselaar and the Rockstar Makita Suzuki team had finally gotten a race win in the Lucas Oil AMA Pro Motocross Championship, and better yet, they did it by fending off the challenges of title rivals Ryan Villopoto and Chad Reed. After a tough year of title defenses for Dungey—one that included only one victory in 17 rounds of Monster Energy Supercross, and a heartbreaking motocross loss at Freestone in Texas earlier this month, Dungey was finally a winner again.
Ryan Dungey (1) got the better of Chad Reed in both motos, and held off relentless pressure from Ryan Villopoto in the second moto to secure the overall win.
Garth Milan photo
Garth Milan photo
Villopoto won the first moto for the third-straight week, but couldn't break Dungey in moto two.
Christian Craig (144) snagged the first-moto 450 holeshot a led early, just like he did a few weeks ago in Freestone. Josh Grant (33) tweaked his knee in the first moto, knocking him out of action for the day.
Garth Milan photos
Garth Milan photos
In the 250 class, Monster Energy Pro Circuit Kawasaki’s Blake Baggett got that winning feeling back, too, but he had only missed it for two weeks. The Californian collected his third win of the season with his Colorado triumph, but behind him, teammate Dean Wilson logged a sold day to take second overall and retake the points lead from another teammate, Tyla Rattray, who struggled with bad starts and finished fifth in both motos.
Blake Baggett was back on his game and delivered his third overall win this season in just five races.
Garth Milan photo
Dungey and Villopoto were clearly the top two 450 riders on this day. Villopoto once again sped off with the first moto win on his Monster Energy Kawasaki, just like he did at the previous two rounds. He started about fifth and zapped Dungey on the first lap. Up front, Lucas Oil Troy Lee Designs Honda Rider Christian Craig had the holeshot and battled Reed for the lead, and when they bumped, Reed fell off of the main race line, allowing Villopoto to steal second. Soon Villopoto was around Craig and into the lead. Dungey would eventually pass Craig, but fell over while chasing Reed. Dungey dug deep and caught back up to Reed, and after several laps of battling, he passed Reed for second as well. But he had no chance of catching Villopoto.
In the second moto, Reed grabbed the holeshot in hopes of extending his unbeaten streak in every second moto this year. But Dungey proved stubborn, pressing the TwoTwo Motorsports Bel-Ray rider all around the track until Reed finally made a mistake and Dungey shot into the lead spot. Reed put up a better early fight in the second moto than the first, but soon yielded to Villopoto. This put the Ryans up front, 1-2, in reverse order of moto one.
The Dungey versus Villopoto battle was intense. Dungey knew a moto win would give him the overall via 2-1 scores. Villopoto was trying to finally notch a second-moto win to match his string of success in the first motos. Villopoto seemed faster on one half of the track, and Dungey faster in another, but past the halfway mark, Dungey found a few better lines and was able to inch away. His lead grew to about five seconds at one point, and he held on to win the moto against Villopoto by 3.8 seconds. Reed backed it down and finished over a minute back, admitting Lakewood was not one of his favorite tracks.
Last week's fourth-place finish at Budds Creek was supposed to be Kevin Windham's last run of the summer. But he decided to come back for Colorado. He grabbed fourth again!
Garth Milan photo
American Honda Racing/GEICO rider Kevin Windham was supposed to have raced his last race of the series last week, but he decided to come back and have some more fun. It was a good move, as he took fourth overall again via 4-4 scores. The rest of the 450 field has a tough time with consistency, and Andrew Short ended up fifth overall on his Red Bull Racing KTM via 7-8 finishes.
Windham’s Honda teammate Josh Grant was running fifth in moto one when he hooked his leg in a rut and popped his knee out. He pulled out of the race and sat out of moto two. Red Bull KTM's Mike Alessi battled Windham for fourth in moto one, and finished fifth. He crashed out of moto two.
In the 250 class, “El Chupacabra” Baggett was back to the form that carried him to wins at the first and third rounds of the season, locking up both moto wins for the overall victory. The Monster Energy Pro Circuit Kawasaki rider was able to edge away from his teammate Dean Wilson in both races. And in both races, they had to fight their way past GEICO Honda’s Justin Barcia, who nailed two great starts.
In the first moto, Barcia and Wilson battled for the lead until Wilson finally secured it. Baggett made a move on Barcia, too, and then he and Wilson spent about half a lap slicing inside and outside of each other in every turning a thrilling battle for the top spot. Baggett found one more inside line in the first turn to cut in front of Wilson and secure the lead. From there, he took off.
Baggett (57) Barcia (17) and Wilson (15) got the starts at Lakewood and battled early in both motos.
Garth Milan photo
Meanwhile, series leader Rattray suffered a bad start and then went off the track. He battled back to fifth.
In moto two, Barcia was up front again along with his teammate Lance Vincent, Wilson, Baggett, and DNA Shred Stix Star Racing Yamaha’s Ryan Sipes. They all swapped positions around before Baggett found himself in the lead again and took off, again. Wilson took second. Barcia went down while running third and then later crashed again, but his teammate Eli Tomac came through traffic and took over third, ahead of Eleven10 Mods privateer Darryn Durham and Rattray, who suffered from another bad start.
In the WMX class, DNA Shred Stix Star Racing Yamaha' s Jessica Patterson retruned to her winning ways, winning both motos by solid margins. American Honda Racing's Ashley Fiolek--the series points leader--took second overall, and both were clearing most of the bigger jumps on the track, which allowed them to pull away from the field. Tarah Gieger took third overall on her Lucas Oil Troy Lee Honda.
Jessica Patterson (1) was able to overcome Ashley Fiolek (67) to go 1-1 in the WMX class.
Garth Milan photo
Lucas Oil AMA Pro Motocross Championship
Toyota Trucks Thunder Valley National
Thunder Valley MX Park - Lakewood, Colo.
June 25, 2011
Round 5 of 12
450 Class (Moto Finish)
1. Ryan Dungey, Belle Plaine, Minn., Suzuki (2-1)
2. Ryan Villopoto, Poulsbo, Wash., Kawasaki (1-2)
3. Chad Reed, Kurri Kurri, Australia, Honda (3-3)
4. Kevin Windham, Baton Rouge, La., Honda (4-4)
5. Andrew Short, Colorado Springs, Colo., KTM (7-8)
6. Tommy Hahn, Great Bend, Kan., Yamaha (11-5)
7. Brett Metcalfe, Mannum, Australia, Suzuki (9-7)
8. Christian Craig, El Cajon, Calif., Honda (6-15)
9. Jake Canada, Corona, Calif., Kawasaki (10-13)
10. Justin Brayton, Fort Dodge, Iowa, Yamaha (14-10)
1. Ryan Dungey, Belle Plaine, Minn., Suzuki (2-1)
2. Ryan Villopoto, Poulsbo, Wash., Kawasaki (1-2)
3. Chad Reed, Kurri Kurri, Australia, Honda (3-3)
4. Kevin Windham, Baton Rouge, La., Honda (4-4)
5. Andrew Short, Colorado Springs, Colo., KTM (7-8)
6. Tommy Hahn, Great Bend, Kan., Yamaha (11-5)
7. Brett Metcalfe, Mannum, Australia, Suzuki (9-7)
8. Christian Craig, El Cajon, Calif., Honda (6-15)
9. Jake Canada, Corona, Calif., Kawasaki (10-13)
10. Justin Brayton, Fort Dodge, Iowa, Yamaha (14-10)
450 Class Championship Standings
1. Chad Reed, Kurri Kurri, Australia, Honda - 223
2. Ryan Villopoto, Poulsbo, Wash., Kawasaki - 215
3. Ryan Dungey, Belle Plaine, Minn., Suzuki - 202
4. Kevin Windham, Baton Rouge, La., Honda - 148
5. Davi Millsaps, Murrieta, Calif., Yamaha - 145
6. Brett Metcalfe, Mannum, Australia, Suzuki - 144
7. Ricky Dietrich, Snohomish, Wash., Yamaha - 109
8. Andrew Short, Colorado Springs, Colo., KTM - 102
9. Jake Weimer, Rupert, Idaho, Kawasaki - 100
10. Christian Craig, El Cajon, Calif., Honda - 97
250 Class (Moto Finish)
1. Blake Baggett, Redlands, Calif., Kawasaki (1-1)
2. Dean Wilson, Glasgow, Scotland, Kawasaki (2-2)
3. Eli Tomac, Cortez, Colo., Honda (3-3)
4. Darryn Durham, Butler, Pa., Honda (4-6)
5. Tyla Rattray, Durban, South Africa, Kawasaki (5-5)
6. Ryan Sipes, Louisville, Ky., Yamaha (15-4)
7. Malcolm Stewart, Haines City, Fla., Suzuki (13-7)
8. Travis Baker, Temecula, Calif., Honda (10-10)
9. Justin Barcia, Ochlocknee, Ga., Honda (9-12)
10. Alex Martin, Millville, Minn., Honda (11-13)
250 Class Championship Standings
1. Dean Wilson, Glasgow, Scotland, Kawasaki - 214
2. Tyla Rattray, Durban, South Africa, Kawasaki - 206
3. Blake Baggett, Redlands, Calif., Kawasaki - 194
4. Eli Tomac, Cortez, Colo., Honda - 176
5. Justin Barcia, Ochlocknee, Ga., Honda - 137
6. Kyle Cunningham, Irving, Texas, Yamaha - 127
7. Broc Tickle, Holly, Mich., Kawasaki - 113
8. Gareth Swanepoel, Johannesburg, South Africa, Yamaha - 106
9. Darryn Durham, Butler, Pa., Honda - 94
10. Cole Seely, Newbury Park, Calif., Honda - 89
WMX Class (Moto Finish)
1. Jessica Patterson, Tallahassee, Fla., Yamaha (1-1)
2. Ashley Fiolek, St. Augustine, Fla., Honda (2-2)
3. Tarah Gieger, Aguadilla, Puerto Rico., Honda (5-3)
4. Sara Price, Canyon Lake, Calif., Kawasaki (4-4)
5. Jacqueline Strong, Cottonwood, Ariz., KTM (6-6)
6. Lindsey Palmer, Albuquerque, N.M., Honda (8-7)
7. Alexah Pearson, Rocklin, Calif., KTM (7-10)
8. Kasie Creson, Vallejo, Calif., Honda (9-9)
9. Marissa Markelon, Bridgeport, Conn., Yamaha (12-8)
10. Vicki Golden, El Cajon, Calif., Kawasaki (3-19)
WMX Class Standings
1. Ashley Fiolek, St. Augustine, Fla., Honda - 135
2. Jessica Patterson, Tallahassee, Fla., Yamaha - 133
3. Tarah Gieger, Aguadilla, Puerto Rico., Honda - 108
4. Sara Price, Canyon Lake, Calif., Kawasaki - 79
5. Jacqueline Strong, Cottonwood, Ariz., KTM - 78
6. Kasie Creson, Vallejo, Calif., Honda - 72
7. Marissa Markelon, Bridgeport, Conn., Yamaha - 69
8. Alexah Pearson, Rocklin, Calif., KTM - 67
9. Mariana Balbi, Belo Horizonte, Brazil, Yamaha - 66
10. Tatum Sik, Murrieta, Calif., Yamaha - 59
11. Vicki Golden, El Cajon, Calif., Kawasaki - 59
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El Chupacabra?!?
Does anybody know that El Chupacabra means THE GOAT SUCKER?
Was Ricky Carmichael involved in the naming process, or are actual goats the victims?
Evidently it has to do with sucking or drinking goat blood. Is Baggett into some kind of satanic rituals?
I didn't put those huge spaces between lines in that last message. The post couldn't be made and I kept changing words until it posted. I guess each time you change a word it adds another space between lines. I was only saying that being called El Chupacabra is better than being called El Chupan*gro.
When I was racing back in the 70's a Chupacabra ran in front of my bike and it was killed instantly.
We did not waste anything back in the olden days of the 70's so we made riding boots and a belt out of the hide, ate the meat for dinner, and shrunk the head so I could wear it around my neck on a string.
Good times!
Malcolm and Durham deserve factory ride. Mookie has been the fastest suzuki 250 f in every race.
So any news on Alessi and Grant? Also congrats to dungey!!!!!
The RV2 pic of him in the corner rut, he only has one handguard. Did he go down?
eleven 10 mods once again with durham and martin in the top ten if that is not badass esp at Colorado i must be missing something?????
Weege must get $20 from Ping every time he says or writes "El Chupacabra".
If I were Blake Baggett I'd be pissed if some former english major called me a goat sucker
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chupacabra
Be careful Weege - or El Chupacabra might go Tyler Evans on you.
Way to go Dungy. So much for passing the 300 lb fat woman LOL put an aggressive pass on Reed in the 1st moto (aggrssive for Dungy) , maybe aggressive is the wrong word, determined might be better.. RV2 could not make it happen in Moto 2 , Dungy actually pulled on RV2 during the race. A very hard thing to do as that kid hauls. If Dungy had won Texas where would he be in the points battle?
Dungy is about to go on a mini win streak.
Dungey's DNF in Texas is starting to loom large for him in the points chase. The way the top 3 are riding it is going to be really difficult for him to earn back the 25 points he lost.
Without that DNF we'd have have Dungey, Reed and RV within 12 points of each other
Dungey - 227
Reed - 220
Villopoto - 215
I don't have a favorite in this group. I just want to see a suspenseful series right up until the final moto at Pala.
Chupacabra, was used as a fake deal of mexican goverment and daily news to hide from mexican people alot of corruption back in the 90´s.
And the funny stuff is that people believe it did exist, i remember on the news, some dudes made a cage to nail the chupacabra, haha,
The chupacabra, had feet of kangaru, wings of a bat, hands of a man, and the face would be devil wise, with both horns... oh yeah and snake tail...
I think it's uncool to call Baggett El Chupacabra, or The Goat Sucker. Who came up with that, anyway?
Blake Baggett weighs 127 pounds after a plate of spaghetti. Why is somebody picking on the little guy? It's easy to pick on the little man. Must be somebody who thinks there are no consequences. Sounds like a bully. Bullies suck. The ignominious individual who came up with that name is hereby called El Chupan*gro. He can be found somewhere near James Stewart's beltline.
jairtime - you'd make some really good posts if you'd just leave out stuff like:
"the ignominious individual who came up with that name is hereby called El Chupan*gro. He can be found somewhere near James Stewart's beltline."
There really is no need for implicit or explicit racially derogatory comments.
My $.02
I guess no one actually listens to the BTO podcasts with Matthes,Weege and Ping?? I just watched the fight between Ryno and Lapaglia. Everyone should see that great display of character from Ryno.......and see he really is a bit shady. The Motivational salesman is a farce, that apparently stiffs people money...SURPRISE!
canard,aleesi,sad!.....stewart,pourcel.whatever!!! there should be 7 guys winning motos.the top three are absolute scrappers, they are relentless, and never quit. thats why they are all champions,also extremely fit. racing has been ausom.hope canard heals and can get in it to , as he is a great kid and can mix it up as well,...also to someones comment on little stewart...give me a break. he deservers a factory ride? whatever,thats funny. tell him to train, get in shape and get off there stupid reality show,get consistent top three results,week after week and will see ...what team wants that dramma?????again.. look at the top three on the 450 now thats a factory rider..hard workers and no bullshit...its funny to look at the post, to what these jhonny come lately people who have never raced.write get a life.
Durham is picking up where Broc Hepler left off. Souhwestern Pa. keeps makin' quality MX racers....Give Durham a factory ride!
why does it take racerx twelve and a half hours longer then transworldmx to put up the Race Report?
Just curious...
And also, Dungey will win this championship.
Gotta see this. Not to change the subject, but did any one else see this video of Ryan Hughes throwing down with this guy at Mammoth after the 250 2 stroke race. Take your effin helmet off if your going throw blows. What a dumbass.
http://motocross.transworld.net/1000113050/news/lapaglia-vs-hughes/
Don't you just love $hit talkers that cant fight! LOL. Then after he realizes that he tries to make it look like the other guy startd it. What a douche.
"He threw the first punch" " What is your problem dude?- This is what the GREAT Ryno says after not paying a debt - running his mouth - starting a fight - losing the fight...........but who cares....he can ride a dirtbike fast!
Oh no. I have to say if I were as fit as these two supposedly are, I wouldn't be standing there like a high schooler, I'd be digging in. Hughes either should have taken body shots or grabbed his chin bar and had his way with him. As for Lapaglia, wearing a helmet, he could've stepped right in & started going to work. I guess that's what you get when you send MX'ers to do a boxers job.
Dungey just needed to roll the fat gal around in the flour a lil bit,...then ....oh nevermind, i think he knows how to ride a fatty now,...your welcome.....joe.
fight like a man, throw punchs MoFu, ryno a bad dude? really?
joemoto - nice one. Did you learn that technique first hand?
Hughes cant fight, that is obvious, Hughes could haqve been choked out in a heartbeat trying to stuff his head in like he did.
@DGIZZY, give it up, your boy Stewie isnt riding so jump on the bandwagon of his bro', please, he hasnt earned a factory ride, not even close. Especially in supercross.
@CRF500-- what if is the biggest words out there--I can say, "What if RV had been healthy the whole season, he would be way out front" But he wasnt and he isnt. We have a great season going on, no more what if's.
I made himself look like a fool. I can't fight.
BD - calm down, you're acting like a little kid..
I simply made an observation where the consequences of the Dungey's DNF are easily understood. Not so easy to know what would have happened if RV was feeling better. He won moto one at Budds by 8 sec - hardly a beat down.
The word "if" is the heart of bench racing. If you can't participate without having a fit, put away the keyboard.
And remember - I don't have a favorite in RV, CR, or RD. Looks like you a huge RV fan - which is OK. Just don't let it get you all wound up.
Dungey, Villopoto and Baggett will make a powerful Team USA.
You owe my daddy moneys!!!! Pay my daddy!!!
d-bags leave the fights to the tard chariot riders
Finally, it is time for the best race of the season. And in my opinion, the 450 and 250 riders who win Red Bud will also take the championship. RED BUD!!
Happy that Ryan Dungey won the overall. Chad Reed is my favorite racer in AMA Motocross but I was bummed when Dungey had his DNF at Freestone.
I would love for Chad Reed to win the championship but if Ryan Dungey won it I would be happy as well or if even Mike Alessi went on a long streak and won the championship (unlikely) or even Davi Millsaps since he is up there now.
As long as Chad Reed and Ryan Dungey both beat Ryan Villopoto I will be happy.
I might be at Red Bud this weekend. I would like it if there were different riders on the podium each moto for both classes but mainly the Lites.
For the Lites I would like to see Dean Wilson, Eli Tomac, Ryan Sipes, Malcolm Stewart, Martin Davalos, Darryn Durham on the podium. That would be cool. I want Dean Wilson or Eli Tomac to finally win an overall but if Stewart, Sipes, Davalos, or Durham won that would be cool too,
In the 450s I just wanna see Reed, Dungey, Alessi on the podium. Maybe throw in Christian Craig, Davi Millsaps, Brett Metcalfe.
Red Bud!
Where all the Dungey hasnt beat anyone now ?
Pala374
I agree w/ MX 117; that'd be a STRONG MXdN team this year. Not to insult the other riders racing in Europe, but that team would be unbeatble...
jairtime.......... Do it , I DARE YOU so I can boot your lame ass.
D
got back from lakewood,col {ohio}try to go 1 a year somewhere i have not been..Lakewood alright track kinda side of a hill it gets rough and thats where it is technical the jumps are lame though its better than freestone iwent last year, i wish they would bring broome back and drop colo or texas..good race dung pulled it off he was pushing hard they were both flying....7 more to go dungey knows it is not like last year where he could wear them guys {short wopi,whoelse i forget haha}..way to go anyway give credit where deserved..and the guys with the if not dns would be leading well hes not so keep trying to justify where the points would be.......
Ryno
Taking off your helmet wasnt the brightest thing you've ever done but major props to you for scrappin with a bigger guy without hesitation.
So maybe the guy cant fight but he's a fighter.
Big - bad Laplagia ha ha ha
Pala 374
he-he! hughes is just like that idiot from the late '90s retard-molusha fmx, i forgot his first name, but his last name is jones. he was always saying that he won every street fight and shit. anyway, the one thing mike shoulda done right away was take his helmet off. i don't think it would been a fair fight with one guy wearing a helmet. then again, that's me. but' i woulda taken my helmet off thrown my bike to the side and jabbed him on his (hughes) fa66y face!
Actually- I think it would be far more dangerous to fight with a helmet ON. If the other guy was able to get ahold of it good, he could use it to snap your neck real easy. But, It would be benificial if the other guy was stupid enough to try to punch you in the face. Six of one- half a dozen of the other.
Well I didn't know Ryno Organics tasted that bad, that LaPaglia had to fight him to get his money back. For Ryno, thats bad representation of our sport and his business. I thought the guy would have been a little more professional about things. So with his training program I guess if you can't beat them on the track, then beat them in the pits.
@Joemotocross589, dude what are you doing eye balling RD's prize?
i must have missed something here,,hughs cant fight?,,ask emig if ryno can throw a punch,,read the above article & didnt see anything why we would be talken bout ryno & a fight but then again didnt see anything in the article that would prompt jaritime to mention stewart,,guess ill have to go back & re-read it
Mad Mad props to to Garth Milan for the awesome photo's! Nice job Garth and good on ya as your pic's captured the best riders in the world on one of our local tracks that is ready to ride five day's a week sans the three foot ruts, watered and prepped! The best part for Colorado riders is that we have a few more of these prepped tracks to ride on weekly that are just as nice in different way's. BRAAAAHP!
@jair you are a racist pig. It must kill you that you alls klan raised you to hate blacks but you have such great hidden man love for JS7 that you think about and stalk him endlessly. Personally , I would like to beat your toothless empty civil war fightin head with my helmet and then leave you for a chupacabro' to pi*s on..... Somebody give please give Durham Grants Honda.
Ryno won by 30sec. and then calls the guy over to verbally brow beat him? What a disgrace as a former MXoN team member. I suggest RacerX not put anymore of his videos up, giving this asshat more attention would be a mistake.
tonewall, you're an anti-South racist raised by Black Panthers to hate whites, and you have a hidden man-love for me, but are upset because I dissed your stalking advances. How many times do I have to tell you that I'm not interested?
why doest racer x post the link up to the fight?
they must be embarrassed because they help promote his company buy doing those ryno power videos i really hope they dont put anymore up no matter how angry you get you can always walk away
why doest racer x post the link up to the fight?
they must be embarrassed because they help promote his company buy doing those ryno power videos i really hope they dont put anymore up no matter how angry you get you can always walk away
You can't hide your racism and ignorance behind stupid comebacks. And what i have for you is pity. You've never heard me say I hate anybody , not even you . But you TRULY are a racist pig and your comments prove it. And that is not funny. Racism doesn't belong in this sport or country and i will argue that point as long as i live. Motorcycles and motorcycle racing has been my entire life and is one place that I can leave behind the ugly sh*t you thrive on. ...and don't try to go toe to toe with me cornpone or bring some yellow chalk for when i verbally murder you.
Hey Weege, give up on the stuipd nickname for Bagget. You got it on the air, now drop it!
@ pizzacorner,,not to start a big 2do,but yeah ryno beat lapag by 30secs,called him over cus lapag tried to take him out(dive bomb him),when words were said lapag blurted out that ryno owed his dad cash which ryno replied i gave your dad 9000,,then thats when they got into it,,so lapag went out on the track with a score to settle for his old man and well i dont ryno for bein pissed
Great ride for RD1. Looks like this is gonna be a hot championship just like supercross! Cant wait for REEEDDDDD BUUUDDDDDD!!! Who else is gonna be there?!?
Yo yo yo tonewall.
Go play wit yo own balls.
Ya gonna verbally murder me?
Let's see who first falls.
You aint's gots da skills
Ta go toe ta toe
Verbally wit me
You don't know moto.
So while you go defend
James so felonious
So busy on yo knees
It's juss yo ass he busts
Don't try to drop no verbs
Don't try to rap no nouns
I'm soarin' triples long
You faceplant on da grounds
Yo adjectives be weak
Yo system ain't immune
You just murdered you
With this jairtime tune.
Now den
Beleedat, sucka
jairtime that was funny but, your rhymes reminded me of this rapper. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrHJWol_Wgs
Wow. Jesus you su*k ,Thats it?...really?...A racist trying his best to sound black? I can see you now with your big gold corncob pipe hangin from your mini bike chain around that scrawny crimson neck . Proudly sporting your hotpink #7 fubu gear. A nice tat of you F'in a chicken on your arm. One tiny inbred 6 fingered hand grippin your crotch tryin to find your balls with no success. And its all topped off by your brand new silver and shiny white plastic baseball shoes with cleats. Using the big ones "massage device' as a mic you sadly perform only for the mirror or when your alone at the still ,as your 'klanfans' won't allow you to do so in public.
Any way the sheet would cover your 'i'm with stupid" ball cap. Sometimes you go record your 'flow' in the outhouse cause you like the natural reverb and the 'vibe'. All juiced up on Red bull and corn liquor you squat down with your hand held cassette recorder and with your brain burning with big words you lay down your masterpiece....the laughable piece of crap above AND You are still a racist pig.
Ladies and gentlemen, Mr. Tonewall/Tone Loc
Some sponsors should invest into eleven10 mods team they seem to be more consistent than there factory counterparts and there presence is definitely felt. Maybe honda should back them up with some factory parts!
Can't wait to hear the backstory on this Hughes / Lapaglia dust-up. Somebody has some explaining to do.
As for Ryno & Lapaglia's business dealings, is the track really the best place for this?
As for two grown men engaging in mutual combat, sometimes that's what the Alpha Males do.
As for perceptions, this is good for neither person.
Both these guys have been around the So. Cal moto scene for quite some time and have seen each other at / on the track more than once. Is this just a pissing match gone too far or is there more underlying issues that aren't anybodies business besides theirs?
In the video, I seemed to hear dismissive statements from Hughes and accusing statements from Lapaglia, both provacative. I do think Lapaglia's actions on the track are motivated by something other than racing for position.
Was there a race in Colorado this weekend?
ryno showing off all the best moves not ,he had it at beat ya by 30 secounds but no had to carry it on pretty lame by some one off the calibre ryno ,stick with riding ya fighting like a girl ,ya want to swap mx gear for a couple handbags that be awesome ,lol
To me it did look like that yellow guy went in swinging at the red guy. Who was the underdog? O for Owesome!!!
Reed must see the words RYAN...RYAN...RYAN... in his sleep LOLGood race!! All the 350 bashers where are you?? Short got 5th!! His best this year at a track you all said would KILL the 350!!!
sperm whale. there i said it. it wasn't that hard.
I definitely won't be buying any Ryno Power
BillC, I don't think 7-8 (for 5th o/a) is as much a hoorah for Short as it is an indictment on the other riders lack of their consistency. 11-5, 9-7, 6-15, 10-13 & 14-10 for 6, 7, 8, 9, 10th is pretty spotty considering 1st through 4th are generally going something close to 1-3, 3-1, 2-2, 4-4.
I'm still out on the 350.
Just read a TWMX interview w/ A.S. and he goes on to say "It's going to be a great bike in a year"........ In a year???? How 'bout next week? or 6 weeks ago!?!?! He pretty much said the reasoning for taking the 350 over the 450 was that KTM is not developing the 450 (because maybe it's good to go?) and are putting R&D into the 350 to make it competitive in the 450 class (ya think??).
In the 450 class, the 350 must weigh in exactly the same as the 450's.......until that changes, I don't see a valid reason for an aspiring racer to take the -100cc challenge unless, they are a company man taking the beating for their long-term career (paycheck).
Someday that bike will be everything they hoped it would be, that day is not today.
By the way, in the beginning, nobody wanted that experiment to succeed more than me................o.k., maybe Stefan Everts.
Is this the text version of the Springer Show starting to begin above?
Hahaha jairtime = J-Roc!
@Carlsbad, I think KTM is on the right track, just going to take longer than they planned. It kinda goes back to that debate about 450s being to dangerous with too much horsepower. Also to an over feeling not all the horsepower is being used anyways. If you remember reading sometime back about the FIM looking at changing the displacement rule to 350's, so I guess KTM wanted to be first on the block. Interesting comments from Thunder Valley," the bikes were down on horsepower, but you could ride them faster". I like the feel of a nimble 250f, just wish they had more power. So again I feel that KTM is on the right track. It will be interesting how they turn out.
@Carlsbad I agree, but the bottom line is he got 5th, 7-8 is pretty good this year, the class is stacked.
BTW I just bring it up because so many last week said the 350 would get creamed there and now I don't see any of them here.
RYNO did make himself look like a D-bag with the profanity laced defense. That said ,it was defense.
He started addressing the situation low key. Lapag's made it personal. That is when Ryan got hot, perhaps because it was un warranted or maybe worse because it was true. Either way, you can't blame Ryno for trying to take down a bigger man who was still wearing a helmet. Pretty sure throwing punches at Lapag's helmet covered dome would have resulted in a broken hand or 2. Though Hughes was in a bad position it actually looked like Lapag's was about to go limp at the end, like he was the one getting choked? Ryno/Gracie Brazilian Ju Jitsu??
@BILLC, I am here, I think the 350 is a great bike, I just dont think it can hang with a 450, and its pretty obvious it cant so far. Short was a holeshot king last summer, not this year. The bikes all wiegh the same out there, and Short is down over 8 horsepower. And the 350 makes its peak at over 12,000 rpm's. Were the 450 hits it at 7,500.. Its a disadvantage in my book. for an amatuer rider its great, nobody but the best pro's use all the 450 power anyway. But the top pro's is who Shorty is racing.
@Red54, I disagree, Ryno shouted at Lapagia as he went by, and called for him to come over. And then gave him some grief right in his face. That is starting sh#t right there in my opinion. And for what I saw, Ryno had nobody close to going out. I have witnessed and been a pert of several full contact matches in my times in the ring, and Ryno has no skills. He would have been better standing and delivering a few shots to the body. Those always seem to land well, and they hurt.
@billC ya didnt hear of the Hodaka's down on power this week did ya? :o I wont give ryno the satisfaction of clicking on anything of his, he wasnt all that good when he rode Imho.
Joe589 I had a Hodaka dirt squart 80 when I was a kid, My Bro had a 100. a friend of mine had a few till a year ago when he sold them., Super wambat and a I can't remember the other one.
ace- dirt squirt- road toad- super rat- wombat- combat wombat- super combat- thunder dog- pabatco- yeah baby! ( just remember to wear a cup )
@ czmark & BillC, I just think it's a waste of a good racers talent to hobble him with the 350. It's debatable but, I think Short could be fighting for podiums when he's "taking one for the team" developing the 350.
As is, the tracks favor 450's with all the lines developing in their wake. A 350 won't be able to exploit it's advantages until rule changes are implemented (weight) and who's going to vote for that? Sure won't be the "big 4" J-brands, and counting on the AMA to do something proactive and / or sensible is the same as trusting the government to spend wisely, just plain foolish.
I always say I'm over it until next rounds results are posted then, I'm griping again.