Racer X Notebook: Las Vegas
Tuesday, May 10, 2011 | 10:15 AM
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Print- As always, the Las Vegas track was a monster, with much longer lap times than any other stadium-based supercross. The extra time comes partially from the run outside the stadium, called Monster Alley, but the rest of the track is pretty big, as well, with very little leftover floor space. But the real separator in Las Vegas is usually the whoops, and this year was no different. The whoops were steep and deep, and with the typical dry dirt piled on top, it was easy to get wheelspin and lose momentum. Not surprisingly, the whoops changed the outcome of several races. In the Lites East final, Blake Baggett was losing time to Ryan Sipes through them for most of the race, but once he found the right line, he was able to make a run for the win. And in the supercross class, James Stewart crashed in the whoops while leading and took second-place Kevin Windham down with him.
Vegas is by far one of the longest tracks on circuit.
Photo: Matty Fran
- Sam Boyd Stadium boasts a large grass area beside the stadium, and it is used to create the largest pit area on the 17-race tour. Interactive displays are everywhere, including a Nuclear Cowboys display, a massive stage and seating area where riders and other guests stopped in for interviews, and even a street-bike stunt demo area.
- In his heat race, Stewart jumped a big quad jump in a section most riders were using to double-double. And in one of his typical tricks, he only jumped it once, to make sure the competition wouldn’t get a look at it. In the main event, Stewart was under some pressure to get away from Windham, so he busted out the quad again—but Windham immediately went for it as well and cleared it. No one else jumped the quad all night, but it was an impressive show of gamesmanship from Windham.
- The Stewart/Windham crash was a tough one, and Windham had to take an ambulance ride to check on his spleen. He was released with bruised internals and a hyperextended knee, with hopes to still recover and race the opener for the Lucas Oil AMA Pro Motocross Championship in two weeks at Hangtown, where he is a fill-in rider for Team Honda’s injured Josh Grant and Trey Canard. As for Stewart, he announced in a video on his website that he was sore but otherwise okay.
It looks like the TwoTwo will be lining up come Hangtown.
Photo: Simon Cudby
- It appears Chad Reed will race the Lucas Oil AMA Pro Motocross Championship, and do it with his TwoTwo Motorsports Bel-Ray Racing team (some suspected he would take one of the vacated Team Honda spots). Reed’s team continues to get additional support from the factory team, with not only works parts on his bike, but also help under the tent from the factory mechanics. Also, the team is entering silly season talks for more than just Reed—rumors suggest the squad may find the funding to make Ryan Dungey an offer for 2012.
As for James Stewart’s status for the outdoor motocross tour, some officials on the San Manuel Red Bull Yamaha team have been saying the team may race the first four races, but nothing has been confirmed.
- The Lites West main event definitely had its share of controversy when Cole Seely and Kyle Cunningham made passing tough on Eli Tomac, who was battling Broc Tickle for the championship. Seely is a Honda rider and was expected to make things easier for Tomac. Seely and Tickle both share the same trainer and do sometimes work together during the week. Seely, though, denied the claims, saying he was simply racing as hard as he could for himself. Look for a Seely interview here later today.
Seely didn't make things easy on Eli Tomac at Vegas.
Photo: Simon Cudby
- Why didn’t Josh Hansen race the East/West shootout? The East and West main events also served as qualifying heat races, and when Hansen crashed in the West race, he finished tenth, one spot out of qualifying position. He then explained that he had no idea the main event served as a qualifier, and he didn’t even realize he was supposed to race an LCQ until that race had already begun!
- In the home town race for his Dodge Motorsports Hart and Huntington team, Chris Blose logged the best ride of his career with fourth in the SX Class. Australian rookie Tye Simmonds collected a career-best tenth on his J-Star/JDR KTM, and Arenacross Champion Tyle Bowers finished right behind in a solid eleventh on his Monster Energy Babbitt’s Kawasaki.
- Flat tires were an issue in the race, with many suspecting that parts of the over-under bridge did the damage. Andrew Short got a flat tire while leading his heat race, and then Davi Millsaps got one while running top-five in the main event. Overall, this was a race of attrition. Stewart, Reed and Mike Alessi crashed out, Justin Brayton didn’t line up due to an ankle injury suffered in his heat race, Millsaps dropped out with the flat, and Michael Byrne, Tommy Hahn and Robert Kiniry also failed to finish. Only 12 riders were still out there by the end of the 20 laps!
Will Stewart be on the gate come Hangtown?
Photo: Simon Cudby
- Supercross producer Feld Motorsports announced a new event in Las Vegas scheduled for October 15, dubbed the Monster Energy Cup. This race, which essentially replaces the MGM Grand based U.S. Open, will take place at Sam Boyd Stadium and offer a unique track designed to blend supercross and motocross elements. There are hopes that some riders from the European-based Grand Prix series would be willing to race on that type of track. The event will run with a three main event format, each lasting ten laps. The overall winner of the race will win $250,000, and a rider can earn $1 Million if he sweeps all three mains. Amateur riders will get their chance to shine with the Supermini and 250 A Classes competing as well. The Monster Energy Cup will be broadcast live on SPEED.
Feld also released the 2012 Monster Energy Supercross Schedule. It looks similar to the 2011 schedule, but with New Orleans rejoining the tour to replace the Jacksonville, Florida round from 2011.
Chad Reed took home the Bret Michaels "Rock Hard - Ride Hard" Award.
Photo: Simon Cudby
- Las Vegas also hosts the annual Monster Energy SX Awards Ceremony at The Joint inside the Hard Rock Hotel and Casino. This event is all glitz and glamour. Here is a list of award winners:
- Rookie of the Year – Trey Canard (American Honda)
- Transport Driver of the Year – Ricky Jurado (DNA Shred Stix/Star Racing Yamaha)
- Fans Choice – Kevin Windham (GEICO Honda)
- Humanitarian of the Year – MX for Children – Accepted on behalf of MX for Children by Director Brett Wise
- Rising Star – Ken Roczen (Red Bull KTM)
- Nuclear Cowboyz Holeshot Awards – 2011 Winners
- Team of the Year – TwoTwo Motorsports/Bel Ray Racing
- MMI Top Tech – 2011 Winners
- Supercross Class Champions Mechanic – Mike Williamson (Monster Energy Kawasaki)
- Team Manager of the Year – Dave Osterman (TwoTwo Motorsports/Bel Ray Racing)
- Road 2 Recovery Main Jet Award – Jimmy Button
- Western Regional Supercross Lites Class Champion – Broc Tickle (Monster Energy/Pro Circuit/Kawasaki)
- Eastern Regional Supercross Lites Class Champion – Justin Barcia (GEICO Honda)
- Dave Coombs Sr. Supercross Lites East/ West Shootout – Ryan Sipes (DNA Shred Stix/Star Racing Yamaha)
- C. E. Altman Lifetime Achievement – Johnny O’Mara
- Supercross Class Fourth Place – James Stewart (San Manuel Yamaha)
- Supercross Class Third Place – Ryan Dungey (Rockstar/Makita Suzuki)
- Supercross Class Second Place – Chad Reed (TwoTwo Motorsports/Bel Ray Racing)
- Supercross Class Champion – Ryan Villopoto (Monster Energy Kawasaki)
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reed really impressed me this year. good job and good luck for the outdoors this year! and that would be sick if dungey was on the same team as reed (i don't see it happening though). stewart, get a new ride. you have crashed more times than you have been on the podium. hope to see you in the outdoors also
Whe did they start giving a 4th place award?? Not that I have a problem because Stewie got it, but I have NEVER seem a 4th place award ever in moto.
I'm not sure if its correct, but just saw the lap times from Vegas, Stewie ran a 1:01,900, and RV ran a 1:01,700, never knew that. K-Dub had a faster lap also. I didnt think RV pushed that hard at all during the Vegas race, guess he did.
JS better race the Nationals. If he doesnt,, thats not going to look good AT ALL.
bd200.........I noticed the 4th place thing as well........I have no idea if they have handed out awards for finishing off the podium before, can someone clarify that? If they haven't previous to this year then that is disgusting, and of course they'd only do that for their underpriveleged-as-a-child media darling. If they have always gone to 4th then I'll eat my words.
I found an article just by searching in google regarding last years 2010 supercross awards banquet and it seems they only recognized the top 3 as shown below, what a joke.........pretty much a slap in the face to the other riders.
•3rd and 2nd place Supercross class, presented by officials from the AMA & FIM, went to Davi Millsaps and Kevin Windham
•And the final award of the year, presented by Feld Motor Sports Ken Hudgens, along with racing officials, went to the 2010 AMA / FIM Supercross World Champion Ryan Dungey.
Kind of odd that Hansen didnt know about the LCQ. Did his mechanic also not know? Anyone else on the team thinking "hey, where is Hansen?". Could they not find him? Just seems odd. Too bad because I think overall Hansen was the fav for the title and the injury itself wouldn't really effect his value for next year, but the apparent mental breakdown that ensued sure does. He has come so far in turning things around for himself that it would be sad to see him get tackled at the one yard line.
BD200- You really have no problem with it just because Stewart got it? Blatantly bias much? Hey, if Honda tries to get Dungey early, does that mean they're looking to give Grant the boot? That would be kinda unfair especially since he never got to prove himself and his injury wasn't his fault.
Here's an award for Stewart: "Most dangerous rider on the track." How about that one? Or "The Josh Hansen Stupid Decision Award goes to James Stewart!!!!" The "I just flushed my career down the toilet again" award goes to Josh Hansen!!! Who not only threw his championship away by being an idiot, but is too stupid to know how the Shootout works, I am impressed how Reed did this year, not just as a racer, but it seems like he enjoyed himself, rather than being the usual grumpy Reed.
Ya well, James deserves to be recognized because of all the hardship and dedication he has shown to the sport. James is a real class act and should be recognized even if he places 20th. James lays down fast laps and is the fastest man on the planet. If not for James Stewart that sport would not be where it is today. Besides his people have been oppressed for such a long time any achievement that James has made should be recognized. If it were not for all those other riders putting pressure on James he would have won the title any way. Don't hate James just because he took your rider out, its all racing (unless Chad Reed makes the contact). So stop hating and support this truly talented rider.
Unbelievable. I can't believe they gave an award out for fourth. Retardcross you are 100% right its a total slap in the face to the other riders. I am SO SICK of James Stewart!!
Where is Las Veagas???
Well you know, ha ha ha ha, just sayin.
I watched all 9 rounds of the West Lites and I used box scores to uncover some true fan stats. What parity this year , alot Respect for these guys... Glad to see some real racing where no one holeshots and waxes the field every weekend.. hope this continues in the future and we have nail bitters every Final round.
West. All of this in 9 Races
8 riders on podium
4 different Winners
5 riders lead laps
9 riders over 100 pts
First KTM to win Lites main since ???
3 brands to win Mains (Kawi, Honda, KTM)
5 brands to make podium (Kawi, Honda, KTM, Suz, and Yamaha)
All Riders back to LItes except Hanson and Morais? WOW!
West avg Finish
Tickle 2.6
Tomac 3.77
Hansen 5.1
Seely 6.0
Can't wait till Outdoors when E/W line up together !!
@JUST A STUPID #7 FAN
"James is a real class act and should be recognized even if he places 20th. James lays down fast laps and is the fastest man on the planet. If not for James Stewart that sport would not be where it is today.".......seriously? Really?
I guess this sport pretty much didn't exist before JS right? Got to be the stupidest thing I have read in a while. You should find ALL the riders before JS and just physically slap them in the face and say that up to the point of JS entering MX it was a lame, invisible sport that no one knew anything about.
Stupid #7 fan- you are either a complete idiot or just really, really dumb.
the ama offered js a trophy for finishing 4th?! it sucks that they have to placate him and his fans but it's also funny that he would accept it. "oh, here js, and by the way, you finished 4th". that's some funny s%$#! what's sad is he probably doesn't realize how stupid it makes him look. what do you think jairtime?
Its James can do no wrong Stewart, thats why there is a 4th place award.
this kid does deserves the take outs of the year award or soil sample award, or what about a big caution sign award he can wear to alert other riders of his danger.
It doesn't matter what the story is about, the negativity still flows from some of you people!! It has become laughable!! I agree, It is a little strange that they recognize 4th this year if it's true they haven't in the past, but if you have a problem with it then take it up with the people who made that decision and not JS. I don't think that some of you understand something, love him or hate him or somewhere in between, and like it or not, James Stewart is by far the most talked about and most recognizable name in the sport right now. Yep, both for good reasons and a few not so good..that is true!! But you guys who don't like him and what he does validate that fact also, you just can't quit talking about him!! Guess what that means to some of the people who "fund" this great sport of ours and the races and events?? It means a lot....it's all about bringing the people in and filling the seats and MAKING MONEY, otherwise this all goes away guys, especially these days!! It's true in every sport, motor and otherwise, guys who go fast, guys who do things that set them apart, guys who CRASH, bring something to the sport that makes the masses want to attend. It's just a fact!! If they were catering only to the people who actually race or ride, you might see things go a little differently, but they are trying for a broader audience and there is nothing wrong with that!! Anyway, does anybody believe that Josh Hansen, or his team, didn't know he was supposed to be racing in an LCQ?? That gets a big WHATEVER!! Oh, and Dungey to Honda?? Would that make some room for Stewart on a 'Zook??
motocross fans are a bunch of morons.
It's called exposure fellas, and for the sport to continue to grow it needs as much as it can get!! Damn, at least appreciate the fact that the guy does give the sport a lot of that. Oh boy, here come the "Florida incident" comments.....HAHAHA!!
Not that it matters but someone help me with this, In the race JS scored higher than KW ?? To me from every angle KW should have scored higher, He went further on the track, JS made the mistake not KW. KW posted a faster lap than JS. How did they score JS higher ??
I think someone here is on Stewie's payroll. Award for fourth place? Has to be the first time in history.
I'm tempted to think JUST A STUPID #7 FAN is pulling our proverbial leg.
@Monster, who thinks Hansen "is too stupid to know how the Shootout works," I'm pretty sure this was the FIRST TIME EVER that two Lites main events were run and counted as qualifiers. My question is, where was his team when all this was going on? Bad move all the way around.
WOW what a series...all sorts of craziness....great races...break through performances and RV managed to come out on top in the end after a few bad weeks....I respect all of these guys talent, desire and dedication to their sport. Not sure how to sum up Stewarts season. I have watched that kid come from 80's, 125, 250, and now the 4-stroke era and he is amazing in so many ways. We all know he is fast and any rider out there will still tell you he is just that, "amazing "....He has always had that over the edge style, but something this year is different...he is still faster than the rest on your average day.....but something if off.....hopefully he figures it out....he has years left in him and look at Windham at 33....Stew is 25....I think he needs to go back to the Factory life and re-group.....
Outdoors will be EPIC.....Reed and Stewart are the only ones who cant make up there minds, but it looks like Reed is in and hopefully Stewart is too. Dungey on Two Two next year....that would be interesting....as I would imaging Reed would bow out and retire if that were to happen....
Can you imagine how boring the season would of been if Stewart wasn't there? All I know is when he's racing I'm watching him with one eye all the time. Dude is fast and exciting to watch that's for sure.
Funny how TC said he picked RD to win when asked :)
And Seely and Cunningham.........there was a championship going on and you guys weren't in it. You had all season to be in it, then decide the last race you wanted to be in it. Like RC said, I can't believe what I'm seeing.
Why do you guys have to hate all the time I just like James because he is titled the fastest man on the planet. I will probably switch to Ryan if he wins another Championship and James does not.
Ok everyone, calm down, I think I found the answer. I found this on another site:
•Supercross Class Top Riders - Riders who finished 20th - 5th place overall
•Supercross Class Fourth Place - James Stewart (San Manuel Yamaha)
•Supercross Class Third Place - Ryan Dungey (Rockstar/Makita Suzuki)
•Supercross Class Second Place - Chad Reed (TwoTwo Motorsports/Bel Ray Racing)
•Supercross Class Champion - Ryan Villopoto (Monster Energy Kawasaki)
So it appears everyone from 1-20 was given an award (like the "most improved player" trophy I got in little league haha). Racerx just had to mention James' fourth.
@you bet- Everyone believes the Seely/Cunningham/Tickle Controversy just because we all like Tomac and he got dealt bad luck. You all forget that those are fast guys too racing for a bigger paycheck just the same.
I think it's really nice that Bubba got a "participant" award. They do that in my kid's sports too. It's so the crybabies and losers don't feel bad about themselves.
Yes, they did give recognition to riders ranked 20th-5th in the series, as well as they always do. The "recognition" part isn't an award, though, they just have the announcer say the riders name and let the crowd applaud them. We left that part out of the list on Notebook here because it's not an award that gets handed out--it's just recognition. They don't invite all of those riders to the stage and they don't hand out trophies for those positions.
Stewart, Dungey, Reed and RV (as well as Canard, who accepted the Rookie of the Year Award) were all actually brought up on stage to accept an award for their accomplishment. That's why it's listed here. For what it's worth, Stewart did not attend the Awards Ceremony, his mechanic Paul accepted the 4th place award on his behalf. So it wasn't like James was asking for any special recognition--he didn't even go!
Also, Hanny says his whole team didn't know the deal on the LCQ, and he was actually talking to Mitch when he found out he was supposed to be in the LCQ. So if that's true, the whole team messed that up, not just him.
Jason isn't this a professional sport?How could pro circuit not know this when other teams were lining up?Hanny's just a douche......
lol when did they ever care about who got 4th? if they had to put stwart somewhere, why not make up a category for most crashes in a year award and then put stwart in there.
I'm not buying that the whole PC was oblivious to the Vegas E/W qualifying format. It was covered at the riders meeting in detail....sounds like a lame excuse to me.
The lil'Stew - Affirmative Action - First Loser award is the first clear indication that Multicultism fundamentalism has entered the world of MX/SX. If this trend continues it will destroy the last bastion of reality in America that is motorcycle racing world.
Not personally accepting this award for mediocrity is the most classy thing lil'Stew has done is his career. Even he nows it true meaning.
What would the AMA have done if Canard had not been injured and finished 4th in the standing and lil'Stew 5th?
RD to HONDA!!! I would be SHOCKED!!!
You guys are like a kindergarten kid who didn't get as many jelly beans as the next kid did.....whiney ass babies!! Thanks for clearing it all up for the little children Weege!!
Some clowns are stating that lil'Stew is good for MX/SX because is "talked about" and "recognized". Maybe lil'Stew should come out of the closet and claim he is gay and then have a sex change operation and then have a video of himself have sex with a donkey released. That will really open up MX/SX to a wider audience, create a lot gossip, increased profits, ...
Note the quality of the "thinking" of the typical lil'Stew fantard.
Time for MX/SX to jettison old fashioned ideals like talent, dedication, intelligence, etc.
Can JS just stay home cause all he is going to do is ruin someones championship dreams by crashing into them and breaking something... The dude is a loose cannon who should just stay home and play his video game.
Boring races if there was not JS, hum lets see. Nope there will always be a reason to watch a Supercross Race because of the gate that falls backward and 20 bikes taking off at the same time. Oh and there is the 20 laps of constant racing that goes on and there will always be a winner, loser, huge crash, and one awesome time to be had. Ya I think that this sport will be just fine when JS retires. So in conclusion I don't think JS is the one that makes Supercross Entertaining, it is only because there are dirt bikes launching in the air at impressive speeds.
Hey "白龙".......that is a brilliant piece of writing you just put up my friend!! I never realized just how far off base i was until i read your little manifesto!!! I jest, of course!!! It is quite obvious that you just don't understand how things work do you?? Once again, let me say again what i said above, to see if your genius of a mind can grasp it......if all the promoters, sponsors, etc. cared about was pleasing the hard core MX community, things might be a little different,but i'm sorry to inform you that there are more people out there then just the devoted, moto headed, nose to the grindstone, die hard fan like yourself that they are trying to reach....whether you like it or not!!! And in that sense, he brings exposure to the sport, without the need for your absurd extremist interpretation of what "exposure" entails!!! You post that garbage and then question the "thinking" of the typical Stewart fan????? Nice work 白龙 "WHITE DRAGON"!!!
@ jason weignant....and you believe in santa claus too???? quit kissing pro circuits butt..the whole buncha losers doesnt know how the shootout works??? ever hear of a riders meeting..???..i guess they were too busy installing the big bore kits???..why did they think there was a lcq?? i dont believe it..bunch of sore losers..hanny was too busy putting gel in his hair ??..gonna be a long summer as there is no one on team capable of winning outdoors...and cole"benedict" seely is a liar...tomac is gonna pay him back HUGE...sipes will win the outdoors title..
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@ acejas--@stupid fan, No its not because Stewie got it. this isnt Little league were everyone gets a trophy. And now that I see that they gave one to 4th place just because it was Stewie, its worse. What an as# kiss and suck up. And he didnt even give a sh#t enough to show up. Probably already in the Bahamas.
And the reason that this awrd is BS is because they would NOT have given this award for 4th place if anyone else had gottem 4th. So that in itself is wrong. It is showing bias there acejas.
So whatever, you think its ok to give an award for 4th place just because its Stewie who got 4th. Nobody else would have gotten an award for 4th. Anmd do you REALLY believe that giving an award for 4th place brought in any mainsteam fans?? the mainstream doesnt even know that awards banquet exist.
At least the AMA made sure that Stewart knew that he was indeed beaten straight up by three other competitors. Here is an interesting fact on Stewart getting smoked straight up two of the three had a DNF during the season. WOW to get beaten by one guy that got an DNF and another had a DNS, then to be beaten by your rival and get recognized for 4th. No wonder his mechanic received the award, talk about eating crow. Isn't Stewart still tied with Reed for all time wins in SX?
Holy shit "bd", are you really that stupid?? Do you think what i am referring to has anything to do with the damn awards show??? REALLY?? Well it does not!! I don't give a crap who ended up in fourth OR whether or not they gave a meaningless trophy for fourth place!! WHO CARES!!! How in the f--k do you know they gave one for fourth just because it was Stewart?? YOU DON'T!!! Did you not read Weeges reply above?? Stewart had NOTHING to do with it. If you have a problem with a 4th place trophy then direct your adolescent anger at the proper people!! Did he show up to get his 4TH PLACE TROPHY that he apparently whined and cried about?? No (and you rail him for that too). Once again einstein, my opinion above about his popularity, if you will, had nothing to do with the damn awards show!! Is it really possible for you to dislike the guy that much?? You are out of your mind dude!!
JS had a DNF too sherlock (just sayin)!! And no, i believe Stewart is still 2 ahead of Reed on the all time wins list!!
Hey Whatever, you're so cute when Stewart gets his ass stomped in a championship series.
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I stand corrected the only rider to not gain any point in a race was Villipoto. Dungey was second with a whopping 1 point race and Stewart has the 3 point race. So I am sorry for not researching and going completely off memory. Dungey and Stewart both did not receive a DNF for any races and the Champion did. So there you are a$$hole (whatever), I know how to use an internet search to.
@Weege, Did 4th place get an award at Vegas last year? If they did then end of story. Also when JS7 races he brings in a huge increase in spectators and viewers. Last year when he showed up at Unidilla he spiked the ratings and attendence by more than 25%. He does the same thing for MX/SX that Tiger does for golf. I'm a fan of anyone who has made it to the pro level but my favorite is RV2, but when JS7 busts out a sick quad it makes watching any race that much better. I your a true MX/SX fan and you can't respect what Stewart can do on a dirt bike you should really think about why your watching SX in the first place.
Then you should use the internet search BEFORE posting next time "just sayin"!!!! One more correction JS (ha, your initials are the same as, well "JS"....funny).....the Champ did NOT have a DNF (did not finish), the champ had a DNQ ( DID NOT QUALIFY)....there is quite a difference!! That being said, it is truly remarkable that he was able to still win the title with a DNQ (unable to qualify)!! Props to RV for sure though, he earned it!! Oh, and you did catch the all time wins update, right?? Stewart still by 2 over Reed......for now!! Thanks TWK101, for understanding that like him or not, the guy brings people to the stadiums, that was all i was trying to get across!!
Hard to believe Hansen did not know about the lcq. I have to think Mitch would have known what the qualifying deal was, I am guessing maybe they couldn't find him, possibly hanging out over at H and H? (Or hiding).
so let me get this straight, Reed might hire Dungey? thats cool!!! How funny would it be if he hired James?
Alright whatever, you want to start namecalling thats fine you Stewtard nutsucking homo. How does Stewies browneye taste there .,. And yes I WAS refering to the awards show stupid as#. Its where the award was handed out you moron God you are dumb. What else would I refer to you one rider race fan idiot. And YES, I think they gave a 4th place award just because it was Stewie. And I wasnt directing my anger nowhere, YOU jumped on here running your suckhole because it was your wet dream Stewie I was refering too. Otherwise you could care less. Millsaps got 4th last year and didnt get an award. Whats that tell you?? Take off the Stewie blinders for one minute genious, maybe you will see the moto world doesnt revolve around your dream lover moron. Go White Dragon!!
@Whatever, the ONLY difference between your DNF and DNQ was 3 points.
And Reed and Stewie have the exact same number of titles. @ for supercross and one outdoors. But one thing Reed has over Stewie, more respect from the fans.
Hey "whatever" you botard stop being a comment whore. We do not give a sh*t what you think.
Well "bd", the first time i was polite and asked if you were really that dumb....this time i'm just gonna tell you that you are!!! Now sit back and listen close you numbnut!!! RVFANTARD!!! Are you listening???? My first post talked about my OPINION that Stewart is the most recognizable rider to the broader public, for better or for worse, i believe he is!! I MADE ABSOLUTELY NO MENTION OF THAT FACT HAVING ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE DAMN AWARDS SHOW!!! This was your response to me... and i quote....."So whatever, you think its ok to give an award for 4th place just because its Stewie who got 4th. Nobody else would have gotten an award for 4th. Anmd do you REALLY believe that giving an award for 4th place brought in any mainsteam fans?? the mainstream doesnt even know that awards banquet exist." That was your response!!! You were asking me if i believed something that i had not even commented on!! Do you see that now "beedee"?? DO YOU?? Then in my next post i asked you if you really thought that I, not you "bd", but if "I" was referring to the awards show (which i obviously wasn't)!!!! Then you responded by telling me this...and i quote...."And yes I WAS refering to the awards show stupid as#. Its where the award was handed out you moron God you are dumb." Once again "bd" i did not ask if YOU were referring to the awards show. I hope you see it clearly now, you dimwit!!! Go read it slowly so you can pick up on what was really said!! Pizzaface....go to hell buddy because i don't give a crap what you think either!!! Wer'e having some fun now boys.....i love being the "ying" to your "yang"!!! HAHAHAHAHA
And once again angry child, this is the first thing i said about the damn 4th place award in my FIRST post....."I agree, It is a little strange that they recognize 4th this year if it's true they haven't in the past, but if you have a problem with it then take it up with the people who made that decision and not JS"........... SO,take it up with Feld, or whoever the hell puts on the stupid awards show......just quit blaming the wrong people..........HATER!! HAHA
the saying goes"4th place is the first n word"..lol...the caption on the 4th place trophy was.".good job nword.".sponsored by popeyes fried chicken..lol..
This just in... If Stewart finishes the championship in 10th, they will include awards all the way to 10th place, and mysteriously, 10th place award will be much cooler than the others.
Also, whenever Stewart crashes out of a race, they will place him higher in the standings, than all other DNFs, lappers, privateers, and any factory rider not within 10 seconds of the leader. This is so that Stewart can remain in the title hunt, even when he fails to finish a single race all season. Also, this is how he passed Keven Windham in Las Vegas.
Also, an additional rule will be put in place, giving James an automatic 25 points for every round he misses while incarcerated.
bd200,,, you ARE a freak,,, and I'm not jokin'. I read your posts,, and I really think you need counseling.. One question for ya,, how many 125 titles does Reed have ?? Dude,, you are WHACKED !!!!
Good posts, clam chowder, white as snow and pizzacorner!
Here's a video of a fight that "Whatever" got into at a Chicago public aid office. Watch it to the end to see his "Whatever" exit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdYlkPO5dFk
He is such a flamer with his pink avatar. I can see him doing a curtsey and storming off. He needs to shut his stinkin' ham hock hole.
Whatever - quit dignifying these jokers with a response.
White-as-snow...I hope that is just someone's idea of a joke. A very poor one, but hopefully just a joke.
Jairtime - you are an embarassment to all fans of this spot. I know this won't work, but: please go away.
BD200...I agree with you fairly often - but, you often get 3 kinds of sideways due to some silly 'hate' for all things JS7. Ok for him not to be yoru favorite...but let it go a bit dude. He's not the greatest human ever...but he ain't THAT bad of a guy. But especially today...you are getting lumped in with these racist idiots. If I were you, I would seperate myself from that in a big way...
Folks - get a gip. it is ok for a black man to do well in mx. It is GOOD for the sport! And Jairtime - did I mention go away? Idiot...
@waldo, forst of all I could care less if Stewie is freakin" purple. Lets chear that right now. I dont care what color he is. second. my only problem was that they "made up" this award it seems to give one to Stewie, that sucks. they never gave a 4th place award last year, or EVER. And when I said it the Stewtards came flying. Its all they got, their guy got 4th place. And my last comment was directed towards whatever because one-he defends ONE rider to the point of creepyness, and he jumps all over someone because they might criticize his dreamy rider.
@mxmofo, go back to your cave, youyr guy got 4th, and I'm "whacked" haha!! what a good one bro' did you come up with that by yourself mybrotha'..
Head back to the freestyle ramps bro', were all the other flatbillers are.
@whatever, I didnt send my comments to your boy Stewie, just posted them on here, and I never said Stewie whined about a 4th place award either. So chill out, I didnt even direct it "at" Stewie, it was to whoever decided to give an award for 4th. So chill!! moron.
hey guys!! What did I miss???
I used to enjoy reading these when it was about the greatest sport ever. Now its just JS7 haters and shit talking. the KFC comments, his urkel shades... hit him while he's down i guess??? he'll be back to old form and #1 trophy's in no time. He has alot of them, i guess a 4th place trophy would actually be a nice addition to his massive trophy room.
Congratulations, Waldo! You get the libtard Politically Correct Name-Caller Award of the Day.
Name-calling is okay, as long as it fits with YOUR agenda!
You are a fine example of Greenpeace, the Sierra Club and the Pro Choice movement, not to mention the Anti-White Society of America.
Although you remembered to include the word "hater" in your rhetoric, you forgot the words "ignorant" and "redneck" to describe your enemies. We'll have to dock you a couple of points for those infractions.
To True west fan.. I dont get at the bottom you wrote outdoors eli/w? whos the w. What ever. My opinion Rv is going to smoke em in outdoors. And for lites it will be Barcia or Tomac. Eli just might bring little revenge and do a 1-1 at Hangtown..
"bd", i'm done with you man, seriously......my first post here today was in no way over the top in support of Stewart. Not at all, just my opinion on how well known he is in the sport, but you still found it necessary to question my motive, so don't say that i jumped all over anybody. You are the one who came out of the gates here blasting Stewart. The thing is, i'm now afraid you will find it necessary to respond by telling me that you didn't actually go through any "gates"!! Why did you tell me that you didn't "send" your comments to Stewart?? Did you think that i somehow thought you were literally sending him them personally?? WHAT?? It seems something is just not right in how you are reading these things man!! Oh, and to say you didn't direct anything at him or call him a "whiner" is incorrect, well you are right in that you didn't call him a whiner about getting a 4th place trophy.......but you DID say...and i quote....."What an ass kiss and suck up"....and that has no merit...c'mon man, take ownership of what you say!!! You ignore me and i will ignore you, how about that??
"Waldo".....you are absolutely right!! Well said!!
Just look at content and quality of the typical lil'Stew fantard postings. Really what is the point of all there whining? Notice how the never spend any time talking about the sport itself. Thats because they don't care about or understand MX/SX. The only care about some multicult freak show spectacle where combatants try to take out as many opponents as possible before they take themselves in the most speculator fashion possible. Yes, that while suck in more fans and create higher profits.
jairtime..
Aren't you late for a:
1. For a KKK meeting?
2. Masturbation session on the monster energy chicks?
3. Cursing session on JS?
4. Attending a porn convention?
5. Attending a "I hate n**ggers seminar"?
You are one dumb f*ck who tries in a very subtle way (Not...) to show your hatred to a race of people... Pathetic... As always, you are an old fart... White (Or shall I say caucasian)... Pretty old and have a pretty low level of education... Just can not stand the fact that.. Coloured people are in your backyard.. Jee??... How the hell did they get there in the first place?
Lets assume the worse case, even though absurd, that jairtime is partaking in the activities listed and compare this items listed to a typical lil'Stew fan.
1. IQ( SX/MX fan) > IQ( KKK member ) > IQ( lil'Stew fantard )
2. Gang raping monster energy chicks.
3. Wilding/stomping/beatdown of non-lil'Stew fans.
4. Partaking in a down-low public bathroom hook-ups.
5. Attending a I hate non-lil'Stew fan random public attacks.
All the above are facts have been repeatedly verified by multiple studies, part of the public record, can be personally experienced by entering lil'Stew fan base zones, true in every country in the world.
Wow ,the comments have finally made it into the just bizarre category . Speaking of awards , Champion bunghole of this SX season goes to Jair who stands high atop the podium with his jug of corn liquor & thesaurus , spewing racist crap about frontal lobes and worthless info. about HIS tire choices for his imaginary arch enemy JS7 . His Mf'ing creepy stalker like obsession with Stewart is almost laughable....except for the fact he's serious and knows a little to much about zoloft. ..... RV won. it's a new season folks , move on, the humor and decent racing takes are gone replaced by a bunch of argumentative boring drivel about an award show that didn't please or some idiot still fighting the civil war.
jairtime is 100% correct in his observation. Any anthropologist and forensic scientists can verify what jairtime has said and there have been countless journal publications that have provided confirmation. But you really need none of these because your eyes are not lying. Check out the picture above.
http://c0031788.cdn1.cloudfiles.rackspacecloud.com/8272_stewart-vegassx2011-_417870_600.jpg
Notice anything interesting?
To the uneducated and those with an IQ below 100 might "think" jairtime is a racist, but it is not his problem that lil'Stew fans are unable to read anything beyond rap lyrics.
WOW what a thread!!
Jairtime you made my day Sir. Keep up the good work and set these sperm gargling race traders straight.
bd200,,, Once again,, you have proved me right.. And you have the nerve to tell other poeple to "chill out." Now thats funny.. Seriously,, consider counseling, will ya ??
I was just thinking...imagine if Stewart knew that a 4th place award was just an excuse to give a brother an award, kind of like a mini class, where every rider is pandered to with a trophy, even the last place guy. Imagine that he would be noble enough not to show up, as a protest to the pandering.
Nah, that would never happen.
He had something to do that gave him more immediate gratification. He was off somewhere in a temper tantrum, maybe pulling somebody's daughter over with some police lights.
He's not about to be a good sport and hold anybody's hand up as recognition of a job well done in the best series in history. Reed did that, and that's why I have more respect for him than I had before. Reed was capable of understanding what an epic series it was, he gave it his all in an unprecedented "privateer" effort and came up slightly short, but he was man enough to hold the winner in high regard and to give him the respect that Villopoto earned.
Villopoto, Reed and Dungey = winners.
Stewart = uh, not so much.
I think James should get some sort of award for wearing Yo Gabba Gabba glasses on the podium in his heat...
The ignorance of some people is staggering!! Ya, "jair-slime", Stewart should have come back out of the pits after his DNF and walked on to the track after the race and raised RV's hand up in a show of respect.....ya that makes sense. Man, you are a knob!! RacerX, if you don't pull the racist remarks of this idiot side show, it is really a shame!!! Are you guys at RacerX not reading what is being reported?? RacerX.....would you also please get rid of your little meaningless disclaimer stating..."We hope to continue to allow commenting on our site without logging in, but if we continue to see racist, hateful, or otherwise inappropriate comments here, we're going to be forced to switch to a registered log-in system only."..........bullcrap...this page alone has numerous racist comments and you do NOTHING about it!! Well Done!!
Didierlotsyeng, let's analyze your prejudices. You are opposed to:
- Whites
- The elderly
- Those less fortunate who lack your education
Remember, those in the first two categories brought motocross into this world, and SX for that matter, you unappreciative goobtard. Don't pick on people who aren't as smart as you, with your third world education.
NOW who's the idiot?
Boy have I noticed one thing, some Stewart lovers let alot of comments go, but a couplke of them (whatever-mxmofo) will gang up on just one guy. bd200 never said nothing on here that a hundred others said, but only he gets jumped on here. Shows me that those couple guys just want to stir things up with him thats all. Which makes thier responses less significant. It really means nothing coming under those sircumstances. those two are just out to start garbage.
bd200 asked whatever if he really thought giving an award to Stewart even though he got 4th did anything for the fan base. And got a barrage from him in response, called stupid and everything. It shows whatevers mentality to anything negative said about Stewart and from bd200. And of course another attack fan "mxmofo" chims in because he loves to go after bd200 also. No matter if anyone else has written the same thing on here, mxmofo likes to go after just him. Makes them hypocrites to me, thier responses mean zilch.
Dear jairtime..
I have nothing against the whites.. Hell.. I did most of my education surrounded with whites... You should see my partner.. I guess, she will be lynched for marrying some coloured guy like me?
Elderly.. You must have noticed my name, where in my culture, we give a shit load of respect to the older people..
And as for education... My old man busted his arse off working in a bakkery before running his own bakkery and then several bakkeries... Yet, he emphasized on how important it is to have a proper education.. Something i took seriously..
And heck.. My old man was a fan of DeCoster... How can this be??... A non white guy in the 70's being a fan of the sport? Shocker...
The only thing which piss's me off.. Is the likes of you.. Always throwing in the race issue... Motorcross is accessible to anyone, whether you are a white, yellow, brown and black..
How do you find the time and energy to repeatedly post and argue with some unreasonable cur. This just seems like a waste of time. What do you "fellas" get some kind of sexual arousal out of proving that what you typed is right? Then you go and bad mouth the magazine that provides you the free service to look like an idiot. You "fellas" are like the hippies in America that protest wars and the government that provide them the freedom to protest. If you think you are so right start your own magazine and have a message board that is available for slander.
Okay, Didier, we agree that we don't like it when race is thrown in there.
When Akira Watanabe was the first Japanese rider to win the FIM world title, did he get a Sports Illustrated cover and endless pandering?
Did any rider in history, including Marty Smith, Bob Hannah, Roger DeCoster, Rick Johnson, Jeff Ward, Chad Reed or even RC get the red carpet treatment with lots of extra entitlements and ignored bad conduct as much as James Stewart?
I don't like it when they treat him special just because he's black, and let him get away with murder just because he's black.
I always liked the kid, but when everyone makes it about race, and they show how much disrespect they have for every white rider by giving the first black rider who comes along the highest salary, the most publicity, and when every little move he makes is not really news, but it's blown up and made into news, when the AMA makes special awards just for him (4th place) and never for anybody else before him, when sponsors bust Lechien and others and fire them and ignore Stewart's felony behavior, which was quickly shuffled down to misdemeanor, and I read the laws on that - all I see happening with regard to James Stewart is special treatment only because he's black. He stumbled onto the scene and made a Sports Illustrated cover, not because of his stellar professional racing record, but because he was black.
Did anybody give Marty Smith a TV show? How about Rick Johnson? McGrath? RC? Roger DeCoster?
He's not the first rider to come along and win some races. He should be treated equally. When he does crimes, he should be held accountable, and he should be sorry for what he has done. His conduct should not be swept under the rug because he's black. He's not apologetic either. He's not sorry for what he's done. No apology. He knows everybody will forget about it if he keeps that "I ain't done nothin'" defense.
Malcolm hasn't done what James has done, and I don't have a problem with him. I don't have a problem with black people. I don't like seeing anti-white sentiments being "cool" and acceptable these days, while anything black is being crammed down our throats as people like James Stewart have zero accountability, unlike everyone else on the AMA tour.
I love how "jair-slime" says he doesn"tlike it when "race is thrown in there"!! That is a laugh....here is a "jairtime" post from above, anyone pick up on any racism in it?? "Jairtime" said this..........."(Spoken in nasal street gangster style) Yo, man, why y'all gots ta be hatin' on the haters, nomesane, that ain't cool, you ain't gots ta be holdin' us down, haters gots ta rise up, nomesane, dem leff-winga libtardz be frontin', but dey ain't gots nuthin', dey boy done gots fawf place in da seee-reeeez, he ain'ts da fassess no place. He da fassess man on parole, nomesane. Dis ain't rayciss, so step off. Go ta jail, son, quit thainkin' you all dat an' a bag o' chips, pay yo debt to society, come down off yo high hoss an' quit thainkin' you a rap star. I ain't playin', money. You bess go pick up some trash on da side o' dat highway where you be playin' five-O wit yo blues an' reds, sucka, an' I wonts some pilk-chuhs o' yo bad seff wearin' yo jail clothes wit yo Erkel shades, homey."..........obviously these are the words of a man who disagrees with racism!! That guy (jairtime) needs to be put away!!
How was Chuck Sun, the first non-White to win MX championship (1980) treated? Did he receive the lil'Stew treatment? Was there ever a negative word written or spoken about him? No! Was this because he rode and behaved like a professional? Yes!
If lil'Stew behaved like Chuck Sun and did not was given no special treatment like Chuck Sun, would any of the "haters" here have a problem with lil'Stew? No?
If lil'Stew fans were of a similar character to Chuck Sun fans, would there be a need to put the lil'Stew fantards in their place? No!
If lil'Stew wanted to improve himself he should hire Chuck Sun as a personality trainer.
Just to make one thing clear. I don't like lil'Stew. Just like I don't like other rides, other athletes in other sports, other teams, other performers of music, other painters, others entertainers, other composers etc ... Just like everybody else throughout time has had their dislikes.
In fact, lil'Stew has done nothing to cause anybody to hate him. But he is getting close with his dangerous riding.
What I hate is lil'Stew fantards. Where do the get the nerve too telling everybody that MUST love lil'Stew and give special treated to lil'Stew and ignore lil'Stew indiscretion because and ONLY because he is an "afro-america".
It will be the best day in the history of SX/MX when lil'Stew retires for it mean all his White hating fantards will go back to their balls sports.
If lil'Stew wanted wanted to really prove himself a man, he would making posting here distancing himself from the his fantards.
jairtime.. OK, get your point. First, let's agree to disagree..
Certain things can be a bit over the top in regards to Stewie... But you will have to consider the following..
Stewie came into the scene where the big $$ were given to riders. This trend started with RC.. I recall clearly RC being booed at when he won the US open after having switched bikes. (From kawi to Honda) and recall reading he was getting a base salary of 2 million, and 100k per race win.
So, if a stewie gets those huge, huge salaries... Do not blame him... If the manufacturers are willing to pay and the sponsors... ? It's typical... Happens in other sports as well.
And... The kid has talent... Even though it does not translate to the same records as RC... Or MC.
Add the fact he's not like the others, because of his origins... Of course he will stand out.
As for the TV show... Pls do not watch it, as that is a utter waste of time!
MC, RJ, Wardy and Hurricane, were just in a different era, where the medium of communication was not as evolved as today. Unfortunate for them, maybe.. It just so happen that today, we have the possibility to follow the sport in a more in depth way than in the past.
(As for the incident... I was one of the first who disapproved JS behaviour.. And I am a fan of him)..And the whole event... I got the flack for it as well... But again, the judiciary system is somewhat different in the US then where I live... And it seems that if you are wealthy.. It can help to a certain extent.
As for the colour issue... I do not think this is a forum to discuss this.
Hell, maybe in 2012, I will be assisting an auto show in the US on behalf of my employer (If I am still with them)... We could grab a cold beer and have a long discussion on this.
Great point about RC getting booed when he switch from Kawasaki to Honda. If RC fans had the mentality and IQ of lil'Stew fantrads, they would have become hysterical calling people names claiming that they really hated RC because of his red hair.
And didn't both MC and RC go through periods when there was a general dislike, or unwilling to accept their success? But both MC and RC used their talent and personality to win most of their detractors over? The fact is, lil'Stew as failed on both accounts. In fact, lil'Stew talent and personality has only alienated more people and the longer he is in the sport, the situation only gets worse.
Hey 白龙, or "WHITE dragon". First you need to proof read your posts, they do not make you sound very good!! Second, you do realize that many of your comments make it sound very much like you are a little bit "racist". Like this one..."it will be the best day in the history of SX/MX when lil'Stew retires for it mean all his White hating fantards will go back to their balls sports."......Hmmmm, white hating fantards go back to "balls sports" huh, do you mean the "balls sports" which are predominately played by black athletes?? Sounds like you might have a problem with the imbalance of white to black in those sports, since you seem to think that "white hating" fantards are the ones that follow those sports!! Then you made this statement...."What I hate is lil'Stew fantards. Where do the get the nerve too telling everybody that MUST love lil'Stew and give special treated to lil'Stew and ignore lil'Stew indiscretion because and ONLY because he is an "afro-america". Wow, i personally have NEVER seen anybody on here say that anybody must "love" Stewart because he is an "afro-america"....as you put it. Never have i read that on here. That is something you create in your own mind because YOU are the one who has a problem with his ethnicity!! Please show me a post where somebody said he must be loved because he is black...please do!! It;s funny when you guys say that "lil'Stew has done nothing to cause anybody to hate him.", and that the reason you do is because of his fans. That is BS man....YOU DO NOT LIKE HIM!! Well fella, that is a two way street, James Stewart does not need my support or defense of him or anybody elses on here. Remember that we are merely a speck on a gnats ass on this little internet "chat room".....it does not matter!! My point is that i don't get on here to defend him, i am actually just as sick and tired of the shit you "anti-FANTARDS spew out......that is what makes me want to like him even more, must like you say WE make you dislike him!!! You ended with this statement.....
"If lil'Stew wanted wanted to really prove himself a man, he would making posting here distancing himself from the his fantards." Could you please translate that for me??
Are you claiming my writing is as erratic as lil'Stew's riding? If lil'Stew made writing errors like mine, you would be attacking anybody the criticized lil'Stew's writing as being a "hater". What if people called me the "best writer on the planet"? You would take them for a fool? The fact is, execution matters.
Poor response "WHITE DRAGON"!!!! Very poor!!
Poor response "WHITE DRAGON"!!!! Very poor!!
白龙 ..
If my memory is correct... MC was beeing booed at because the fans were just fed up, seeing MC win so many, many times.. I think that was obvious in '95, maybe 96' as well.
But then MC started his his unbelievable streak... And people forgot about his winning so many races.
Then people just loved MC in his later yrs.
As for RC... I think, it was a factor of several issues... RC rode green for most of his career untill he switched to Honda... And the media specullated heavily on the deal Honda offered him.
And... As MC and maybe others pointed out.. RC was at the beginning of his reign at the top of the sport, a bit too molded as a media kind of guy... Meaning, not being himself.
I think, it's bullcrap... But hell... RC ushered a new era... Where hard work and big $$ came in hand in hand.
As for the comparison to stewie.. Different rider, different scenario.
@whatever, try and just shut up for once. YOU are the biggest racist on here. If guys were writing this about Reed you could care less and not even bother to comment. You arent even on this site when Stewart doesnt race. Like last summer, never saw you until Unadilla. Why?? Oh yea, no Stewart. You love himbecause he is black, and if anybody says anything bad, you jump all over them and say it must be because he is black and the person must be a racist. YOU are the racist "brother"
And by the way, not all stck and ball sports are majority black. Major League Baseball is 64% white, and 25% hispanic, the rest is black and then Asian. Get your facts straight before you shoot off your mouth racist.