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Sign Of The Lap Times: Salt Lake City

Tuesday, May 3, 2011 | 10:40 AM
undefinedSomeone obviously forgot to tell Salt Lake City that it's spring time. With temperatures hovering around 40 degrees, and even a few snow flurries hitting ground early in the day, Salt Lake City once again proved to challenge the riders both physically and mentally. But enough about the weather, let's get to the lap charts brought to you by Motion Pro.

AMA Supercross

Lap Rank Finish Best Lap In Lap Avg Lap Time Rider
1 1
42.737
6
43.841
Ryan Villopoto
2 10
42.869
5
46.542
James Stewart
3 2
43.031
5
43.984
Chad Reed
4 3
43.691
7
44.616
Ryan Dungey
5 5
43.901
5
45.300
Davi Millsaps
6 4
44.040
7
45.089
Andrew Short
7 7
44.647
5
45.857
Jake Weimer
8
8
44.699
7
45.807
Tommy Hahn
9 6
44.714
6
45.748
Kevin Windham
10 9
44.843
6
46.218
Justin Brayton
11 12
44.887
7
46.144
Kyle Regal
12 11
45.208

7

46.096
Nick Wey
13 13
45.948
8
47.764
Michael Byrne
14
14
46.052
3
48.076
Chris Blose
15 15
46.587
5
48.560
Tyler Bowers
16 16
46.708
7

48.630

Jason Thomas
17
17
46.813
11
49.637
Bobby Kiniry
18 19
47.235
8
50.473
Ben Lamay
19 18
47.264
5
49.713
Cole Siebler
20 20
1:14.907
2
1:14.907 (1 lap)
Mike Alessi

Monster Energy Kawasaki's Ryan Villopoto took one step closer to claiming his first career SX title with his victory at Salt Lake City. Villopoto now has a commanding nine point lead heading into the final round at Las Vegas and can claim the title with at least a fifth place finish at the season finale. Villopoto also set the fastest lap of the night with a 42.737 on lap 6.

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Villopoto set the fastest lap of the night in Salt Lake City.
Photo: Matt Pavelek


Salt Lake City proved to be the shortest track of the series thus far and the lap times proved it, with only one rider (excluding Mike Alessi, he crashed on first lap) surpassing the 49 second average lap time mark (Ben Lamay at 50.473).

Another rider that cannot go unmentioned is JGR/Muscle Milk/Toyota's Davi Millsaps. With all the attention on the "Fantastic Four" Millsaps quietly put in one his best rides of the year with a fifth place finish. Davi has struggled all year with problems from a crash last year where he lost part of his kidney, but has managed to find strength late in the year and his results and lap times are proving it.

AMA Supercross Lites

Lap Rank Finish Best Lap In Lap Avg Lap Time Rider
1 1
43.868 3
45.423 Eli Tomac
2 3
44.506
4
45.616 Broc Tickle
3 4
44.523
5
45.614 Cole Seely
4 5
44.579
7
45.761 Kyle Cunningham
5
2
44.683
3
45.442 Ken Roczen
6 6
44.880
5
46.379 Tyla Rattray
7 7
45.476
7
46.510 Ryan Morais
8 8
45.481
9
46.875 Martin Davalos
9 9
45.642
8
47.225 Travis Baker
10 11
46.236
7
47.462 Tommy Weeck
11 13
46.361
9
48.784 Josh Hansen
12 12
46.450
6
47.822 Jake Canada
13 10
46.731
4
47.452 Ben Evans
14 14
46.747
7
49.350 Topher Ingalls
15 15
47.518
4
49.550 Bruce Rutherford
16 20
47.556
5
55.372 Nick Paluzzi
17 16
48.338
4 50.100 Casey Hinson
18 17
48.395
4 50.183 Donald Vawser
19 18
48.556
4 50.407 Landen Powell
20 19
50.286
3 54.777 Tevin Tapia

The west coast boys were back at it again--after yet another week off--in Salt Lake City with major championship implications on the line. But when all was said and done it was GEICO Honda's rookie gem Eli Tomac coming away with the victory and the fastest lap of the night, a 43.868 on lap 3.

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Tomac set the track ablaze with the fastest overall lap time in the Lites class.
Photo: Matt Pavelek

What a week for now 17-year-old German sensation Ken Roczen. The young gun started the week in the Netherlands where he placed second on one of the most brutal sandy tracks on the GP circuit, Valkenswaard. He then flew across the pond back to the United States, got sick, and then managed to go out and get another second place. An impressive feat indeed. His best lap was only fifth fastest of all, but K-Roc, like Tomac, is proving to be a quick study this year in consistency.

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The Conversation

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Yamakid341 wrote: 10:49am May 3, 2011

RV2 is the man!!

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Trend Killer wrote: 10:51am May 3, 2011

Holeshot........ RV!!!

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baileys wrote: 10:52am May 3, 2011

typo between Reed n Dunge

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Open Class wrote: 10:52am May 3, 2011

Ladies and Gentlemen,

We have a new "Fastest Man on the Planet" this week! Please let me introduce you to the winer of Salt Lake and the favorite to win the title......RYAN VILLOPOTO!!


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Acejas wrote: 10:53am May 3, 2011

Dungey and Reed's position needs to be swapped.

Dungey : 43.691
Reed: 43.901

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Trend Killer wrote: 10:55am May 3, 2011

RV showin' how its done.

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mxmofo wrote: 10:58am May 3, 2011

Yep,, RV deserves the title.. Just hope he doesnt crash and give it to someone else. He knows he just needs to criuse around and stay out of trouble.. C'mon now,,, bring on the Nationals....

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qwerty wrote: 11:02am May 3, 2011

Reed 43.091

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Ken Elliott wrote: 11:03am May 3, 2011

Here's the really interesting stat:

RV2 Avg. lap time = 43.841
CR22 fastest lap time = 43.901

That suggests that CR22 had to be super consistent in his lap times to be that close at the end. RV2 was faster, but had a few bad laps.

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Acejas wrote: 11:05am May 3, 2011

Stewart hater- "Haha looks like lawn dart needs to retire. He lost his only title of king of the lap charts!"
Stewart lover- "Oh please, we all know if stewart didn't crash he would've logged the fastest time."
Stewart neutral- "Right on! RV is flyin!"
Stewart lover- "Another gift for RV. James just needs a different color bike, then he'll start dominating again."

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dgizzy wrote: 11:09am May 3, 2011

Not hating on JS7 but even if he rides outdoors, he will not win the title. I know most pple think he is untaouchable outdoors but he still has to beat RV,Dungey, Pourcel and Canard outdoors and to be honest this are young hungry guys so no way. He might win some races and crash out but not the title.

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pilotdude wrote: 11:17am May 3, 2011

Someone please inform the zombies that their Ralph-proclaimed "fastest" man......isn't. Just be prepared for the barrage of mindless justifications and be prepared to be called a "hater."

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mxmofo wrote: 11:18am May 3, 2011

I just love how no one thinks JS can beat these guys in the outdoors.. RV and CP and TC have not won ONE thing on a 450.. Toooooo funny ...

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bd200 wrote: 11:19am May 3, 2011

@dgizzy, most people think Stewie is untouchable outdoors??? WHAT!!, who ever thought that?? He never took a title on the big bikes outdoors untilRC retired. How does that make him untouchable?? He doesnt even race outdoors so how is he unbeatable outdoors?? That made no sense, except the part that he wont win the title if he races it.

RV turned the fastest lap, and the fastest average lap, and won the race. Can we all agree that RV2 was the fastest guy now??

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Dias374 wrote: 11:21am May 3, 2011

Reeds Fastest time should be 43.031 according to the lap sheets

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mxmofo wrote: 11:23am May 3, 2011

bd200,,, RC is RETIRED.... give it up, will ya ??

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bd200 wrote: 11:25am May 3, 2011

Eli Tomac getting it done. I love it, guys saying he wouldnt do it his rookie year, this kid has a bright future.

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mrwhirlwind wrote: 11:26am May 3, 2011

I only have one comment... it ain't over folks lets run the last race before we crown the champion.....

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JonR290 wrote: 11:26am May 3, 2011

At the start of the season:

Had someone posted Canard would school these 450 vets and then go out at the end of the series with a broken femur in practice, you would say they were crazy. But it happened.

Had someone said Stewart would be in 4th going into Vegas and would crash more in 2011 than the past 5 seasons combined, you would say they were crazy. But it happened.

Had someone said Dungey would be only 12 points back, in 3rd overall and ahead of Stewart and going into Vegas, you would say they were crazy. But it happened.

Had someone said old-man Reed would be only 9 points back, in 2rd overall and ahead of Stewart and with a shot at winning going into Vegas, you would say they were crazy. But it happened.

Had someone said RV would get a huge lead only to have it completely disappear due to not qualifying for a main and Stewart would have zero chance of winning the Title going into Vegas, you would say they were crazy. But it happened.

…..somehow, I have a feeling we may be in store for one more totally bizarre race where we do not have a clue what will eventually happen this Sat night.

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bd200 wrote: 11:26am May 3, 2011

I never said he wasnt retired did I?? I said Steweie never won the title outdoors until RC retired. So why did you repeat it?? Read my post, it says "UNTIL RC RETIRED"

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Acejas wrote: 11:30am May 3, 2011

I can definitely see Stewart winning the the title if he races this summer, but no way in hell it'll be another perfect season.

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mxmofo wrote: 11:35am May 3, 2011

bd200,,, the point is,, you ALWAYS bring up RC when talking about JS,, ALWAYS... I guess its because its the only thing you got ....

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keepinitreal wrote: 11:38am May 3, 2011

I hear bd200 is making signature series underwear so he can be on RV's nuts ALL day! HAHAHAHAH

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mxmofo wrote: 11:40am May 3, 2011

hahahahahaha..

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X19 wrote: 11:47am May 3, 2011

WOW Tomac just as fast as Reed.

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Nicol 5 wrote: 11:56am May 3, 2011

@mx mofo Not to be overly critical, but RV chacked out at his first 450 race outdoors at Glen Helen a few years back...Villo is gone outdoors so it will be he and James checked out unless the other guys can get there stuff together in a big way...just my 2 cents

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BD wrote: 12:00pm May 3, 2011

JS owes it to the fans and to himself to race the outdoors! Lap times don't lie RV was the fastest rider in utah fact, RV should win this title and im pumped for him, JS is still my guy he needs to ditch that yamaha and race the nationals, Also pumped for FMF racing winning i believe the 1st Supercross class title.

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keepinitreal wrote: 12:01pm May 3, 2011

bd200 These are Ricky's words...."I was not faster than James outdoors but I was in better shape which allowed me to beat him" "James made me look stupid in supercross, he would stalk me for 19 laps then put the pass on" Maybe you should listen to RC when he's a guest commetary, you may learn something! Ricky IS the greatest of all time and I would say he knows a thing or two about racing! Flipdick!!

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toroP wrote: 12:07pm May 3, 2011

Reed ran a 43.031. Less than .3 off of RV.
They never post these charts without errors.

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prmxracer wrote: 12:08pm May 3, 2011

Anyone seen RV race outdoors? Stewart will have his hands full. If RV wins the SX title he will have even more confidence going into the outdoors. Scary

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toroP wrote: 12:15pm May 3, 2011

Real time updates! Good job guys.

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Mechanix1981 wrote: 12:17pm May 3, 2011

RV should win this title but it was not in dominating fashion. He's great outdoors but I don't see it being any different from this SX season. Lots of fast guys, I say he and JS7 (if he rides) will again be slightly better than the rest of the riders but I do not see RV winning by 30-45 seconds. Just my opinion. His best races in SX this year were still close, he didn't blow anyone out by 10 plus seconds.

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mxmofo wrote: 12:18pm May 3, 2011

@ Nicol 5,, I totally agree.

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Retardcross wrote: 12:25pm May 3, 2011

How come people jump on bd200 for mentioning JS never won until after RC? The Stewart fans say essentially the exact same thing all the time when they say Reed never won unless JS wasn't there.....

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mxmofo wrote: 12:29pm May 3, 2011

'm getting so sick of explaining this... Retardcross,,, Reed has NEVER beaten either JS or RC until this year. ( maybe ) Also, RC is RETIRED,, Reed is not...

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Retardcross wrote: 12:49pm May 3, 2011

That's pretty obvious, but the situations aren't really all that different. It was more a shot at how hypocritical JS superfans can be and it wasn't directed at you. Why do we even bother going racing if Stewart is the best thing ever no matter what the stats show (they show otherwise)? He essentially has the same big bike credentials as Reed but superfans do nothing but shoot down Reed. From a neutral standpoint it's ridiculous how pumped up that JS is all the time. The beginning of the end has begun for him which is unfortunate because his talent is unmatched. He just doesn't have the brains or work ethic or a combination of the two, he has not changed how he approaches racing since he turned pro. I don't care what the media says, he is not this new, smarter, more patient rider at all. The progression of this sport is crazy and it wouldn't surprise me to see him not win another title. The talent field is deeper, younger, and hungrier than ever. I'm not saying he isn't capable of winning another title because he clearly is about 25% of the time when he's not on the ground. Now let's start this off with the typical "you're a hater" comment and bash away.....I'll get my feelings hurt and sob a bit then take comfort in the things that matter, concrete results and facts which back up everything I just said.

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mxmofo wrote: 1:00pm May 3, 2011

Retardcross,, Reed is a paper champion, and thats a fact ...

I do agree with this statement you made...
"He just doesn't have the brains or work ethic or a combination of the two,"

In fact,, I agree with most of that post, Retardcross.. There is no dought, JS's head was not in it this year.. But still, he had a bad year, so what,,, alot of riders do. Lets just hope he rides the Nationals, and we can see how he reacts to getting beat in SX.

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Retardcross wrote: 1:31pm May 3, 2011

I myself, just like any real fan, really want to see him line up outdoors. In my mind there is no excuses for a rider of his calibre not to show up. If he doesn't, I think his fans need to reconsider who they cheer for because that move would just scream sell-out. I want to see all the best riders lined up at any event or series, especially one like him who is always a threat to affect the outcome of a race. If he doesn't line up this summer, I say f*ck him, same goes with any other top guy who is able to ride but chooses not to.

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mxmofo wrote: 1:33pm May 3, 2011

I agree

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Milt43 wrote: 2:38pm May 3, 2011

Rv is the luckiest and fastest too, he gonna be champion even with a DNQ race

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Sean wrote: 2:51pm May 3, 2011

Reed in it to win it!!!!!! @milt43 Karma buddy!

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bd200 wrote: 3:14pm May 3, 2011

keepinitreal, we are done, if you are no more mature than that, I am done trying to discuss anything with you.

@mxmofo, RC is all I got, I brought it up because someone said Stewie was untouchable outdoors. And its not the case. But "all I got" ?? Really?? because I can bring up Reed, who is ahead of Stewie, and Dungey, who is ahead of Stewie, and of course RV2 who is ahead of them all. What else do you need there mofo.

And all the good things RC said of Stewie, that is RC, always a class act. He said Reed was faster in supercross also. RC always praised his competition. And Stewie rewarded that praise by saying RC shouldnt be called the GOAT. Real classy Stewie. It is things like that that has turned me off the ego driven classless guy he has become. He is a great rider, very fast. But has changed into a huge egomaniac, its why I dont cheer for him. And his die-hard fans make up nothing but excuses when he loses. Its a joke.

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bd200 wrote: 3:16pm May 3, 2011

@mxmofo, if you dont like Reed fine, but saying he is a paper champion is wrong. He lined up and beat the guys on the track, its all he can do. Reed never beat Stewie for a supercross title, O.K> Stewie never beat RC for one. So does that make Stewie any less a Champ?? Its the exact same thing.

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bd200 wrote: 3:18pm May 3, 2011

Who cares who is retired, Stewie never won a title until the champ left. Reed never won a title until Stewie wasnt there, SAME THING EXACTLY.

Retardcross, you are argueing with hard heads who wont admit the titles for Reed and Stewie are the same.

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BDS720 wrote: 3:26pm May 3, 2011

I think it is stupid that they rank the fastest lap time based on a single lap. It is an intersting stat; however, it doesn't mean anything. Maintaining that speed over the course of the race is what matters, that's what the average lap time shows, that is how they should be ranked.

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Retardcross wrote: 3:34pm May 3, 2011

I don't think it's fair to discredit any champion because certain competition doesn't show up. That's part of racing, showing up on the gate healthy. And saying Reed only wins without Stewart there is true, but not entirely fair. People assume when Stewart is sitting out or hurt he would be winning which isn't the case at all half the time. Maybe if JS swept every series he entered and only missed one series it would be fair to say the competition got a gift. But this isn't the case, JS has proven even when he shows up it's not his for the taking. I think this SX season legitimizes Ryan Dungey's titles from last year. How can anyone say with certainty JS would have won last year with the current points standings?

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mxmofo wrote: 4:09pm May 3, 2011

bd200,,, I guess I dont remeber Reed beating JS or RC for ANY title,, do you ??? Would you not agree that titles are harder to win depending on the competition ?? Competition changes from year to year..

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Carlsbad wrote: 4:19pm May 3, 2011

I hear a lot of squaking about this and that, how fast James is, blah ,blah, blah. Let me remind everyone James Stewart had a perfect MX season in 2008, that's three years ago for anyone not counting. Since we're operating on past history, not the present, let's not forget RV's dominating ride @ MXdN a while back, nobody could touch him, not even GOAT, and he was on a 250F. Also, Ryan Dungey almost went perfect just last year in a dominating fashion. I say we put imaginary titles aside and run the races and see who REALLY is the fastest man of 2011. Turns out it is Villopoto in Supercross, the great outdoors has yet to be decided.........stay tuned.

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BDS720 wrote: 4:20pm May 3, 2011

Isnt that the point, the comp. changing? With different comp. who says JS wins out every year. Retardcross has a very good point. Nothing has been gifted to anyone.

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keepinitreal wrote: 4:31pm May 3, 2011

bd200 do u just make this stuff up as you go, the post race cbs interview with JS was hardly "egotistical" as you call it. It was an interview from a competitor who admitted defeat and admitted that he was not the best this year. You are the egotistical maniac typing paragraph after paragraph trying to prove what exactly?? I thought it was very humble of JS to admit that HE made mistakes, HE let this one go! You on the other hand are nothing....I hope all this whining and crying by you helps you sleep well at night!

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Carlsbad wrote: 4:34pm May 3, 2011

Also, Unadilla 2010 proved James Stewart is beatable outdoors (we already know the answer indoors). Is 'Dilla '10 a knock against Bubba or praise for Clement DeSalle & Dungey? I suppose it depends on which way your propaganda spins.............

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bd200 wrote: 4:44pm May 3, 2011

@mxmofo, what I am saying is you always rip on Reed for not winning a title when Stewie was racing. But Stewie is EXACTLT the same, he didnt win when RC was racing. So it is the exact same thing, so is Reeds title any less than Stewies?? They are identicle.

@Keepinit-- You dont see it because you are blined by your lust for Stewie, He said HE made mistakes and threw it away. EXACTLY. He could have been a man and said he got beat, period. No, he says "I made mistakes and gave it away" Bullcrap, he goit beat.

Thats the last comment you get from me until you grow up. and I sleep fine,

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clint wrote: 5:05pm May 3, 2011

Keepinitreal is keepinitreal ....his comments are common sense . Pay attention

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mxmofo wrote: 5:08pm May 3, 2011

bd200,,, and what I'm saying is that Reed hasnt beaten RC or JS for a title... Get it ??? You always bring up RC just beacuse Reed has NEVER beaten JS or RC for a title..

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keepinitreal wrote: 5:15pm May 3, 2011

Thank you Clint, common sense isn't so common around here! LOL

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OrganDoner wrote: 5:41pm May 3, 2011

Dgizzy..... Dont expect to see Trey 100% anytime soon. No doubt he's fast but he's only finished 1 outdoor season without injury past round 4. Why is nobody Talking about Kyle Regal. He was a podium guy, str8 privateer puttin' it to em. Now he's actually on a factory bike. I think he's got something for em. The top 5-7 is gonna be crazy battling. Metty is a hungry podium guy on a factory bike, Pourcel will be flying. Dungey is smooth as butter, and super fit. Villopoto just has a Lion heart and will be Ga Ga Ga Gone, I think. I believe Stew will continue to crash if he trys to keep up w/ poto, same as always

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bd200 wrote: 6:52pm May 3, 2011

I use it as an example when you say that Reed didnt earn his title, because he won when Stewie wasnt there. So I say just like Stewie only won his titles when RC wasnt there. You say it like Reeds titles are not earned somehow, when his titles are the same as Stewies. Neither of them won a title until the other champ was gone. So Reeds and Stewies titles both come with an "asterisk" as they say.

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Java wrote: 6:52pm May 3, 2011

You gotta show up to be champion. Staying home and bragging or being bragged upon is ridiculous. Nuff said.

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Pako wrote: 7:52pm May 3, 2011

@bd2000 u r the men! Really good comments!

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Big Red wrote: 10:51pm May 3, 2011

Leave it too some Stewietards to personally attack a person just because he isnt a fellow Stewietard. And make juvenile comments (keepinitreal--gay name by the way Bro!!) and his boyfriend (mxmofo--another immature name) to laugh. Like this really bothers anybody. Not everyone is going to root for the same rider (thank God) so when one guy leaves his opinion, just give an opinion and go on. There is no need for the personnel and ignorant attacks. It shows how classless some Stewie fans are. And they wonder why nobody takes thier opinions serious.

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GORVOUTDOORS wrote: 11:58pm May 3, 2011

Do you people even ride? W8 no you just sit around on this web site fighting with people you dont even know all day. Some of you have real no dramma things to say but the rest of you know who I am talking about.


I am going riding. Then fling to vegas. Go RV!!!!!

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Whoops_Blitzer wrote: 12:23am May 4, 2011

I like that Villopoto has TWO laps faster than Stewart's fastest. Not easy. Things were just about to get heated up when James fell.

There can never be a good battle with these 450 guys; someone always falls. St. Louis last year was really the first time the Ryans battled, but RV tried to make it happen too fast...sort of like Hanson this year.

L.A. still claims the best racing.

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mxmofo wrote: 8:14am May 4, 2011

bd200,,, well, at least JS has beaten reed numerous times for a title,, and reed has NEVER beaten RC or JS for a title.

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Lemon wrote: 9:52am May 4, 2011

How many times has Stewie beat RV for a championship when RV raced the whole series?? I think RV has Stewies number just as RC did...percentage wise I do believe Villo is climbing as Stewie is falling when they enter the same race.

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mxmofo wrote: 9:58am May 4, 2011

Lemon,, I think its a little early to start thinking that way.. JS got beat this season becasue he beat himself.. This was th first race that RV rode well in quite awhile. I also thought RV would be right there with JS at Daytona, but he wasnt..

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bd200 wrote: 10:13am May 4, 2011

mxmofo, this is what totally shows your complete bias. You said Stewie got beat because he beat himself?? Its bull. Like RV2 did nothing this season to win. RV beat Stewie, Stewie didnt beat himself. That is insulting to the work and talent that all the guys ahead of Stewie put in. Stewie lost 8 races in a row, I think RV had alot to do with that. You dont win at least 6 races and become the supercross champion with luck or gifts. Its obvious that a person cant have a legit debate with you about this, you are so biased towards Stewie. When RV was struggling, I just said RV needs to wake up and get a start. Period. Never took nothing away from Stewie when he won, said he waxed everyone at St. Louis. But you cant do the same. Stewie got beat this year, no gifts. And he got beat by 3 different guys.

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mxmofo wrote: 10:22am May 4, 2011

bd200,, your an idiot.. When you crash with a comfortable lead like JS had many times this,, thats called beating yourself,, and or stupidity.. RV had NOTHING to do with that.. Also,,, I NEVER said JS didnt get beat,, did I ??? JS is the fastest guy, just not the smartest..

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racer41 wrote: 11:06am May 4, 2011

VEGAS is going to be the best race ever !!!!!!! I think that reeds going to take home the title... RV2 wont be able to handel the pressure and will hand it over to RD1 or CR22. Its going to be a great race


CR1

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bd200 wrote: 12:29pm May 4, 2011

There you go again with another personnal attack. First off, you are an ignorant person who has so much lust for Stewie it is creepy. Second, I think Stewie rode over his head to try and beat a slew of guys as fast as he is. Its why he crashed. Stewie didnt beat himself. He got beat by at least one guy who is as fast or maybe faster than he is. So if you cant debate without personnel attacks, kiss off and I am done with you too. and grow up.

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mxmofo wrote: 12:54pm May 4, 2011

hmmmmmm,, I see you called me "ignorant." Your right bd200,, just because you crash,, you are automatically riding over your head.... what a Tard....

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Retardcross wrote: 12:57pm May 4, 2011

I see your point mxmofo......but I also see a JS career littered with bad on-track decisions and crashes. It's no fluke he's on the ground all the time, it's because his mind can't keep up with him. That is called riding over your head.

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mxmofo wrote: 1:18pm May 4, 2011

@Retardcross,, I agree, but his crash at Daytona and SLC was not becasue he was riding over his head, IMO ... I think his mind is just somewhere else..

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bd200 wrote: 4:56pm May 4, 2011

Yes mxmofo, I called you ignorant, but never called you anything until you started the name calling. Stewies crash at Daytona was him giving one away, but he didnt "give away" the whole season. He didnt win for 8 races in a row. He didnt crash in all of them. My point is guys like you act like RV and the others who beat him didnt earn nothing, Stewie wa giving them gifts all year. RV crashed in Stewies first 2 wins, and he was leading, I never heard of those gifts there. But if you name call, so will I. If you want to act like an adult, fine, I can do that too.. I also dont think he was riding over his head in SLC either, he wshed the front end, that stuff happens. But he rode over his head alot this year, if you dont see that, your the "tard" as you like to call it.. Stewietard is a better term. Guys like you who see nothing but "Stewie" all day and night. Man, what willm you do all summer whenh Stewie isnt racing, you wont have any moto to watch, you one rider race fan.

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Whoops_Blitzer wrote: 7:51pm May 4, 2011

@bd - I think the term 'gift' implies that the person 'gifting' had a healthy lead and that the race was his to lose. In other words, his lead was such that he could 'ride his own race,' unburdened by the pressure that comes with another rider breathing down your neck.

Stewart's first win, Phoenix, featured RV crashing while chasing James. It wasn't a gift to Stewart because it wasn't Villopoto's to lose. He wasn't even leading.

Stewart's second win, Oakland, featured RV crashing while leading James by 1 second. This is more of a gift, but Stewart was pressuring Ryan, and one expects these things to happen when you pressure the leader. After all, you can try for a block pass when you're a second behind--if you're Chad Reed.

Los Angeles was more of an earned win for Villopoto. He caught Stewart, fell back, and again got close enough to pressure the #7 into a mistake.

Salt Lake, Villopoto was 3 seconds behind. No pressure.

Stewart doesn't often fall while battling. He needs the pressure to stay focused. In '09, Reed thought he had found Stewart's weakness. His plan: keep the pressure on James constantly and inherit the lead every race. It didn't work.

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bd200 wrote: 9:33am May 5, 2011

And how many times was Stewier being pressd by RV or even Reed when he crashed?? What I am saying is Stewie was outridden not by one but three riders this year, and some guys still say Stewie had it won and threw it away. That is BULL. It sounds like Stewie himself. Man up, and say he got beat by a better performing rider, period. RV was pulling faster laps at SLC, I'm sure Stewies mechanic was letting him know of the lap times. maybe that pushed Stewie a little and he crashed. Who knows. But Stewie DID NOT beat himself over the whole season. Three seperate riders are beating him.

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Whoops_Blitzer wrote: 4:20pm May 5, 2011

"And how many times was Stewier being pressd by RV or even Reed when he crashed?"

This year? Once, in L.A.

He could have been pushing too hard at Salt Lake, but that's just how he rides, obviously. When Canard fell leading San Diego, was he 'pressured' into it by Reed? As if!

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bd200 wrote: 8:40am May 6, 2011

Once my as#, you think he isnt told by his mechanic when someone is making up time on him, just like in SLC, RV2 was making up time on him. Not saying that caused the crash, but Stewie is told about lap times every time he passes his mechanic. If you dont know that, I'm wasting my time. You say RV never pressed Stewie in to a crash, but he knows when someone is making up time, so he pushed harder, hence being pressured into a crash. A rider doesnt have to be on the guys rear fender to push him. If he is making up time and its early in the race. The leader is going to have to push to avoid being run down. But it doesnt matter, your boy doesnt have a chance at the title, but RV Reed and Dungey does, the guys who beat Stewie this year, plain and simple.

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