Racer X Race Report: Toronto
Sunday, March 27, 2011 | 7:45 AM
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The twelfth round of the Monster Energy AMA Supercross series took place in Toronto, Ontario Canada tonight and what a race it was. The points had tightened up considerably after last weekend's rave in Jacksonville and things were getting down to the nitty-gritty.
And yes I used nitty-gritty in a sentence.
After his disastrous night last weekend, Monster Energy Kawasaki’s Ryan Villopoto held a six point lead on Team Two-Two’s Chad Reed in the series, and despite being carted off last week with an injury, San Manuel Yamaha’s James Stewart had actually gained three points due to RV not making last night's main event. Rockstar/Makita Suzuki’s Ryan Dungey was right in the mix as well Honda’s Trey Canard won last week. So what would happen this week?
First up were the qualifying races to get into the main event, top nine finishers would end up with direct transfers to the main while the top two in each of the Last Chance Qualifiers would get the last spots into the points and money paying main events.
250 Heat 1
The two Monster Energy Pro Circuit teammates were one-two off the start as Dean Wilson and Blake Baggett roared down into the switchback of a first turn. Wilson immediately stretched out a pretty good lead while Baggett had his problems with ARMA Energy Snax Malcolm Stewart who pulled up alongside Baggett a couple of times. Those two had a pretty good battle for a bit until Stewart made a few mistakes, which allowed Baggett to pull away.
From there Blake started picking up seconds on Wilson until he was only two back at the finish. Time would run out on the #57 as the Scottish/sort-of Canadian Wilson won the heat.
1-Dean Wilson
2-Blake Baggett
3-Malcolm Stewart
4- Darryn Durham
5-Blake Wharton
6-PJ Larsen
7- Hunter Hewitt
8-Les Smith
9-Brad Ripple
Wilson took heat 1.
Photo: Andrew Fredrickson
250 Heat 2
Another set of teammates went 1-2 into the first turn as DNA Shred Stix Yamaha riders Gannon Audette and Ryan Sipes raced to see who would come out with the lead. Unfortunately for Sipes, he would tangle with another rider and go down so the fastest qualifier’s work was cut out for him. He would eventually get all the way back to fifth, but out front it was GEICO Honda’s Justin Barcia taking advantage of the carnage to grab the lead. The series points leader wouldn’t look back as he motored away with the win in the heat.
Behind him, Audette and privateer Lance Vincent rode a strong race to get third and another privateer, Matt Lemoine would get the fourth spot coming from the back.
1-Justin Barcia
2-Gannon Audette
3- Lance Vincent
4-Matt Lemoine
5-Ryan Sipes
6- Justin Sipes
7-AJ Catanzaro
8-Alex Martin
9-Jason Anderson
A heat race victory was in the cards for Barcia in Toronto.
Photo: Andrew Fredrickson
450 Heat 1
Ryan Dungey and Trey Canard put on a battle in heat one of the 450s as those two went at it hard and clean. Canard got by Dungey at the end of the whoops but Dungey retaliated with a nice pass underneath and the two drag raced down the start straight. Right after that, Canard made a mistake in the sand and Dungey pulled back out.
It took some lappers holding up Dungey to allow Canard to pull back in and right before the finish, Trey snuck underneath Ryan and took the lead and the last lap flag as well. It was a great race up front, and behind them was Kevin Windham, who rode a lonely race to get third.
1-Trey Canard
2- Ryan Dungey
3-Kevin Windham
4- Davi Millsaps
5- Nick Wey
6- Cole Seely
7- Chris Blose
8-Austin Stroupe
9- Matt Boni
Canard and Dungey put on a great show for the fans in their heat.
Photo: Andrew Fredrickson
450 Heat 2
Privateer hero, Rock River Yamaha’s Weston Peick, was the unlikely holeshot winner of heat two with BTOSports.com/BBMX Michael Byrne right behind him. Behind those was James Stewart and Stewart moved into second quickly, Peick had a great ride going but was no match for Stewart who got by quickly and stretched out his lead. Chad Reed got by his fellow countryman Byrne and into a comfy second.
Behind that pack was points leader Ryan Villopoto who was mired back with a bad start, things would get worse as the number 2 would stall it in the sand and be forced to come from the back. Reed had his own troubles as he went down in the whoops. The 22 had to remount and re-pass Byrne to get into second again.
Eventually Ivan Tedesco and RV caught up to Byrne and those three had a short intense battle for a lap with RV coming out in third, Tedesco fourth and Byrne fifth in the shuffle. Out front though, James Stewart took the win and the stage was set for a great main event. Red Bull KTM’s Andrew Short seemed to experience some mechanical problems with his KTM 350 and had to DNF.
1-James Stewart
2-Chad Reed
3-Ryan Villopoto
4-Ivan Tedesco
5-Michael Byrne
6- Weston Peick
7-Justin Brayton
8-Tye Simmonds
9-Mike Alessi
Once Stewart got out front, there was no catching him.
Photo: Andrew Fredrickson
250 LCQ
1-Tyler Futrell
2- Ricky Renner
450 LCQ
1-Andrew Short
2- Fabien Izroid
250 Main Event
The gate dropped on the twenty man main event and Pro Circuit’s Blake Baggett appeared to get the holeshot coming into the switchback first turn. Unfortunately, Baggett was unable to stop in time and went into the tuff blocks. This allowed Blake Wharton, Justin Barcia and Ryan Sipes to get out front and start sprinting away.
Sipes, who was fast all day, made a couple of great moves to get both Barcia and Wharton at the end of the whoops and spring right into the lead early in the race. The three riders charged into the sand when disaster struck for Sipes. In the left hander after the sand, Sipes went high in the berm and was stuffed hard by Wharton. The collision forced Sipes off the side of the track and onto the pavement in a spectacular crash. This also allowed Barcia to get into the lead with Malcolm Stewart right there as well.
Eleven-10 Mods Darryn Durham was also up there early before going off the track and he would eventually be forced to climb up to ninth. Meanwhile, Stewart’s time in second only lasted a lap as he crashed heavily on the landing of the triple and was forced to DNF on the night. Stewart has the speed but has found the going rough in his first year of supercross.
All this action allowed Pro Circuit’s Dean Wilson to assume the second place spot and once there, he slowly but surely cut into Barcia’s lead. There was just a steady march to the front by Wilson and by lap eight, he was all over the high-revving Honda rider. The pass came at the end of the whoops and Wilson was into the lead from there. He wouldn’t be challenged from there as he almost instantly had a three second lead.
Coming from the back was Sipes and he made his way from almost being lapped at one point to all the way up to fifth on the night in a great ride for the veteran from Kentucky. On this night it was all Dean Wilson as the Scottish kid who once rode for Canada at the Motocross des Nations came home (kind of) and got the win he desperately needed as far as this championship was concerned.
Dean Wilson was first to the checkers in Toronto.
Photo: Andrew Fredrickson
Barcia still leads the series by 16 points but thanks to some great riding by Wilson, the gap was cut into a little bit.
Results: 250 Main Event
1- Dean Wilson
2- Justin Barcia
3- Blake Wharton
4-PJ Larsen
5- Ryan Sipes
6- Blake Baggett
7- Gannon Audette
8- Hunter Hewitt
9-Darryn Durham
10- Matt Lemoine
11- Justin Sipes
12- Les Smith
13- AJ Catanzaro
14- Alex Martin
15- Lance Vincent
16- Ricky Renner
17- Taylor Futrell
18- Brad Ripple
19-Malcolm Stewart
20- Jason Anderson
450 Main Event
The 450 class was ready to go for an eventful twenty lap main event and the last guy to make the main event was the first guy to the first turn. Frenchman and Monster Energy Kawasaki rider Fabien Izroird was the holeshot winner and led for most of the first lap before defending champion Dungey got by.
Behind those two stood Chad Reed, Valli Yamaha’s Nick Wey and Honda’s Trey Canard. Two of the main combatants, James Stewart and Ryan Villopoto were buried back a ways as Stewart got banged around in the sand pit and RV didn’t get the start that he needed. These two would meet again on lap three when Stewart appeared to make contact with Villopoto at the end of the whoops (a popular passing spot) and both men went down. Stewart picked up his bike first and took off while Villopoto was forced into the mechanics area for some quick repairs.These two would have to put their work in to salvage points.
One man putting his work in was Ryan Dungey, as he at one point jumped off the track and then in a nifty move, seat bounced the tuff blocks and right back on the track lane. Besides that, Dungey was putting down some fast and consistent laps while Reed pulled up a little closer once some lappers got involved. Canard held strong the whole way but made a few mistakes and lost the draft of the top two. Last week's winner would have to settle for the final podium spot on this night.
Meanwhile back a little ways, Red Bull KTM’s Mike Alessi suffered a mechanical on his machine and DNF’d. The Dodge Motorsports Hart and Huntington crew of Chris Blose and Ivan Tedesco suffered crashes as did Valli Yamaha’s Austin Stroupe and BBMX’s Michael Byrne.
It was a tricky track that got beat up by the end of the night, the riders were making a fair amount of mistakes out there. Stewart would eventually work his way up to fourth and Villopoto somehow salvaged a ninth from way back. Both riders have now had consecutive sub-par (for them) weeks.
Ryan Dungey is back to his winning ways.
Photo: Andrew Fredrickson
Up front, Reed got close enough to Dungey to see knobbies on the tire but he wasn’t able to really mount an attack. Dungey rode smart and fast throughout the race and picked it up when he had to. Reed made a pretty big mistake with a couple laps to go and that was all the breathing room that Dungey needed to claim his first win of the season.
With Dungey’s win, the 450 class has now seen five different winners and the points spread sees five riders within twenty-two points. The new points leader is now Chad Reed and he’s got a slim three point lead on Villopoto and eight on Dungey.
Results: 450 Main Event
1-Ryan Dungey
2-Chad Reed
3- Trey Canard
4- James Stewart
5- Justin Brayton
6-Nick Wey
7-Andrew Short
8-Kevin Windham
9- Ryan Villopoto
10-Cole Seely
11- Davi Millsaps
12- Weston Peick
13- Fabien Izoird
14- Michael Byrne
15- Tye Simmonds
16- Matt Boni
17- Chris Blose
18- Ivan Tedesco
19- Austin Stroupe
20- Mike Alessi
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wow this is a great season and is going down to the wire in vegas!!!
Could you ask for a better result? Five races to go and the points are tight, the defending champ finally notched one and we have a new points leader.
Listen up kids, its time for me to share some more of my motorcross wisdome.1st 4 strokes are overweight,overpriced turds. 2nd-BIG NEWS,AMA RELEASE 2012 will be 2 classes....2strokes any size,any mods,no limits class,and 4 stroke any size,any mods no limits class! ITS OFFICIAL!!! THERE WILL BE A 2 STROKE ONLY, WORKS BIKE CLASS IN 2012!! Its about time,4 strokes were killing the #1 sport on the planet! MOTORCROSS!
Can't wait to see if JS7 did a take out move on RV.
Nice salvage by JS7. Excellent ride by Wey! Way to go!
@Mr. Motorcross......if your gonna be talking crap about what you know nothing about, at least call our sport by its name, it's MOTOCROSS
Mr motORcros, 2 strokes are done being competitive in pro SX/MX. Get over it.
Gooood morning people! Grass needs cutting here in MD., but its snowing... go figure kinda like this SX series anything can happen! And Dung has the monkey off his back cant wait to see the race and how RD seat bounced over the tuff block to stay in the lead!
Certainly one of the best races of the year. Another great finish by Mike Craig. And what about the pass that Factory Phil threw down on Larry Ward on the whoops. Big congrats to to Chicken on another solid ride.
Yet another interesting night!!! Looks like Skippy benefits the most with a 10 point swing in the positive direction?? Dungey went in 12 down and picked up 4 points......Stewart went in to the night down 24 to the leader (RV) and leaves Toronto down by 20 to the leader (now CR), so he picks up 4 also!!! Pretty damn cool that the top 5 are all still in the hunt!!!
.......shouldn't be question marks after "positive direction"..........sorry, it's early!!
I'm the biggest Supercresst fan anywhere.
Two quick questions...
1) Is the Toronto Supercross ever held in another city?
and,
2) How do they determine who the points leader is in each class?
Go Reedy!
I've been using Bel-Ray oil exclusively in my Bultaco since San Diego!
5 rounds to go and only 22 points separating the top 5 riders.. Seriously this is anyones! It would be so cool if Reedy won on that Honda after everyone, including MC doubted him.. A couple weeks ago the season looked done and dusted and now look at it! This seaon will go down in history. Fair play to Dungey to, I didn't think he would get a win but the dude proved me wrong. What we need now is another mud race I reckon!
Answers 1) Yes Buffalo
2) Matthes, Weege,Ping and D. Combs decide the points leader. Sometimes in tight races Miss Supercross helps decide too.
That dude who posted just b4 me must be smokin some good stuff.. Is the TORONTO sx ever held in another city? WTF? lol do you mean is round 12 held in another city? and as for the second question... well...
lmao the 2012 toronto supercross at buffalo.. I loves it, thas like the mexican staring frog from sri lanka!
Although i'm not a Dungey fan, at least it wasnt Reed who won the race!!!!!!!!!!
Way to go RD!! You can DO IT!
Reeds the first looser.DC,please give 22 a cover?
I was at the race last night , great racing Barcia did what he needed amongst a pro Wilson crowd understandably. EAST COAST LITES series is over unless BAM BAM gets hurt. SUPERCROSS class was awesome, Dungey and Reed put on a great show . Villipoto must stop the ice melt in Dallas,[props to # 2 for moving over on the blue flag] and save 2nd in points. James charged hard but didnt seem
to make any time on the top 3, even with a open track [around laps 12 - 16]. Stewie will win a few more and tighten things up. Trey will be a champion some day no question, he has allready shown us. The CHAMP could still pull off the biggest shocker in our sport,this is gonna be great get those tix to Vegas because what happens in Vegas is not staying in Vegas this year. Allthough i dont think the 2 time champ 22 never looses points lead this year to much will,speed and experince.
Good for Dungey, finally got the W !!...Now we'll finally here him say something different in his interviews i hope. Sounds like a good start finally paid off for RD. Although I am surprised Reed didn't catch him as the other races RD lead in the beginning he went backwards. Luckily for Dungey, RV and JS7 were in the back of the pack and RD had no excuses not to put this one in the bag... great series
Stewart and RV bounced into each other in the whoops it sounds,,,, no take out moves.
Ok who wrote this and what have you done with Mathes! Waldo was nowhere to be found and there was no mention of eating poop, poutine, or the motherland attributes (Tim Hortons Donuts come to mind). A real encyclopedia read.... the facts are all there but ew!
Can you believe this series! It is for real!!! Just when you think you have something figured out BOOYAA! another winner! Top 5 all even in points for Vegas baby!
Van Halen rules
Sorry RD I was one in the Racer X poll that thought you wouldn't win a race this year,my bad,still not going to win the championship though.
RD did it with RV AND BUBBA crashing..or it would have been another 3rd or 4th he he he ...AGAIN...GO barcia, this guy is on a mission with only one hand on the bars...rev. limiter braaaaaaaaaap...barcia keep it on 2 wheels ,2011 champion
RRRRRRDDDDDDDDD55555555555!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Great race man. Nice work Dungey. I was on the edge of my seat the whole race, Anyone else who was there see the drunk dude run on the stadium floor after the 250 main event? Bahaha, i love drunk Canadian moto fans. We took that town by storm, good show, even the nose bleed sections had lots of guys. NICE! RD5 Will win the Championship boys, mark my words!!!!!!
This sport has always been about consistency. I would put my money on either Reed or Dungey for the title. Vegas is going to be stupid crazy!
Mr. Motocross!!
i wish...............
It's interesting watching years of CR22 being super consistant and JS7 being raw speed. It never quite worked out that well for CR22. Now i look at the points and u got CR22 and RD1 in title contention due soley on their consistency. Got me thinking a bit. I guess when it was just Bubba and chad a bad race for either one would be a 2nd. I think a 7th or a 6th at one race lost Reed the championship couple years back basically. But now having 5 guys being able to win and given weekend, being super consistent is really paying off.
I would love to see Poto or Reed win the championship. But it will be interesting to see what Dungey can do with less pressure. Both Lites east and the supercross class no-one is really grabbing that winning confidence and running with it. What a year! Who woulda thought by this time in the year Canard and JS7 would be tied on wins being 1 ahead of RD1 and CR22. (i think we all knew RV2 was gonna win a few)
Memo to Matt821 . the words tight and Miss Supercross cant be used in the same sentence.
Signed
The top ten in point in the Supercross and Supercross Lite class
Stewart cheats. Rammed RV2 and took him out on purpose. Trying to hurt Ryan or break his bike.
Ok fans in the SX version of Jeopardy the answer is , name one recent race in the 2011 SX series that JS has not taken himself and someone down with him ? The question is what was Daytona Alex ? Correct ! Now James, for the SX Championship as well as your MX / SX legacy, what is ride with only one throttle position ? Take your time ........... Gee Alex I dont know !
Dirt
Canard "lost the draft of the top two"? Man, those bikes are getting pretty sleek these days! Looks like Matthes didn't lose any "drafts" at the Loose Moose pre-show party Friday night!! Ya gotta love how it's starting to become the Reed and Dungey show for the championship! Two guys that figured out early the old adage: "you finish first you first have to finish"! Can't wait to see the race on Speed later to see if Stewie really did put the "Bully Beatdown" on RV, or whether it was just "one of those racin' deals"! (I figured if we gonna start using Nascar terms, we should be consistent!).
"TO finish first you first have to finish"..........oh Hell, you know what I'm talkin' bout, eh Hoser??
JVT777: Welcome to the 2011 SX season. RD5 he's not... He's RD#1 ! ! !
Joe Dirt: Re: Ms SX; Maybe not to you, but everything is relative. ~ smirk ~
Plastered: I agree... It that wasn't ramming I don't know what was. I guess he figures if CR can do it (although that one IMO was less blatant), so can he.
super pumped for dungey eh
Payback's a biznitch, JS.
LETS RACE!!!!!, gonna see if I can go find a TV or whateveer they are called need to go whatch the race. Dont have one at my house.
Great job by Dungey. Looks like when the track is wider and on bigger ground, its a little closer to a outdoor Motocross track. I think that is an advantage for Dungey... Too bad that the chain came off couple of rounds ago. He would now be leading the championship otherwise... That kind of things happen, otherwise Stewie, otherwise RV, otherwise otherwise, but i would'nt count RD out. Steve Ramon became a World Champion not winning one single GP...
Going to be close!
Grtz from Holland!
**************** ATTENTION ***************
Response to "Pita Candida (#456)":
Great questions!
Briefly from memory...The San Diego race was twice held at The Georgia Dome (2001,2009). Last year's wild Anaheim 2 was held in Jacksonville. And of course also last year, the San Francisco race was held in Vancouver and the exciting season finale in Las Vegas was bitterly fought on the infield at Daytona. Hope this helps.
As for the season points lead, all rider's names are placed in a helmet (Shoei FX-1) and then names are drawn by David Vuillemin to determine that week's "Lucky Pierre in-the-Middle".
Race to the Checkers and keep up the good work.
It's not that 2-strokes aren't competitive. They are too competitve. That's why you have to race your 250 2-stroke, against 450f's, or race your 125 2-stroke against the 250f's. 2-strokes are MORE competitive than 4-strokes, not less.
More than the thrown chain, I think of all the times RD1 finished right behind Reed this season. If he could have passed him 2-3 of those times, he'd be in the points-lead right now. Regardless of who you like (or hate with most of you), with an 8-point gap between the top 3 and the alleged FMOTP only 12 more back, these next five rounds should be epic.
I agree, trick. Four strokes are heavy, hard-to-start, championship-costing-because-if-you-fall-down-you-can't-start-them-and-go-from-first-to-last, too-many-moving-parts-having, heavy (did I say heavy?), unreliable, must-sell-if-you-need-a-top-end-job, only-benefit-the-factories-due-to-parts-sales, FLATUS MACHINES that are, essentially, mobile fart sound emanators.
Good lord! What schools have you guys gone to for grammar? Please let me know so I can keep my future kids far, far away! Most of these posts read like a dislexic on coke...
sx factory tool-
you are badass.
Slim473 wrote: Good lord! What schools have you guys gone to for grammar? Please let me know so I can keep my future kids far, far away! Most of these posts read like a dislexic on coke...
I believe it's Dyslexic
Dyslexics UNTIE!
JS has proved that superior speed is not the most important ingredient in winning title's, in fact it might be a predictor of underperformance. Both Stewarts are proving dangerous to themselves and others on the track. Perhaps they should be required to post bonds for the races thay participate in.
Hey Trick, In Australia they let us race 250 2strokes in the lites now :D
Actually see a couple out there now
Cool ! How are they doing against the 250f's groundy056 ?
I am also one of those who doubted Dungey would get a win- I am man enough to admit when I am wrong. To the whole Rockstar Makita Suzuki Team- my bad. With that being said... GO JS7!!!!!!!! For the Championship Bubba is the MAN!!!!
Just watched the race, and YES Stewie took out RV2, I guess its Stewie being desperate. It was a dirty stupid move.. Whatever once said he was glad I call it like I see it, like in the Reed Stewie one in Atlanta, well I say this one was a takeout by Stewie, and now he put Reed in the points lead. I hope the Stewie lovers are really hating it now. RV2 ran a great race after that, all the way to 9th. But a great ride by Dungey, all the haters can take that one. He didnt have to pass, he rode with alot of speed and held off a charging Canard, good run by Dungey.
some dirty riding there. Wharton should get choked out for that move on Sipes. I was hoping sipes would catch his slow @ss. He messed with Wilson last week, keeping him from catching barcia. He completely ruined Sipes this week and for what??? he doesn't think he's going to even finish the season. what a b!ttch move. Can all the barcia lovers and nuthuggers finally shut up and realize Dean can outride him. teamates like wharton have been real good to barcia. too bad barcia will slam them or take them out
I think sipes should have expected that one from wharton. What comes around, goes around.
I hope more than anything that Blake Wharton gets his ass handed to him sometime before the season's over...that guy is the dirtiest rider on the circuit followed by Read. Whenever either gets passed, they retaliate and cut the inside on the next turn way too overly aggressively EVERY SINGLE TIME especially Wharton. The AMA needs to start penalizing riders that spearhead in front of another rider around a bowl turn. The races have been l
@trick Great off the starts. Seem to be fairly even though for the rest of the race. I think its a good move.
Good job dungey. not a fan but w/ a number 1 plate and no wins i was feeling bad for him. If not for his DNF he'd be the points leader by like 20 points. Why are these guys such fools out there. Brayton almost took himself out just to get out of the way to let james pass him. Villopoto's got a lion heart. Stew knew his only option was to cut down on the 2 lappers so he put himself in the perfect spot for RV to go down. It matters nothing to stewey. If I was poto right now, there couldn't be enough qualudes to be calming the storm in my head. Nothing w/ Reed or dunge. That lawndart stew. How did he credited 18th last weekend, thats 3 points. I stilll wanna know how that happened??????? does anyone have huevos in the moto biz. BTW, still waiting on that reply matthes. Oh and another good one. did you see mike alessi's 6th place holeshot??? He never even rounded the first turn and they credited him w/ 6th. This Feld is such a joke. more than MXmofo thinking he can ride
Looks like Villo didn't have his front brake after him and Bubbles made contact.
If they adopt that here in the states, stewart will go back to the YZ490, and win everything. Too bad there is no such thing anymore. But the 'lites' would be a lot more interesting imo. Just dreamin.
Quote: "plastered"
"Stewart cheats. Rammed RV2 and took him out on purpose. Trying to hurt Ryan or break his bike."
Stewart cheats ???? How so ???? It was a BLOCK PASS, the SAME BLOCK that Reed did, and the SAME BLOCK PASS that RV2 pulled on Cole Seeley at the end of the race ... Cole Seeley shut off and so could've RV2.
Actually RV2 used that EXACT SAME MOVE on Dungey last year before he crashed and broke his leg...
Nice try but NO DICE !!!!!
SHRoOOm______ I think you've clearly eaten to many of them. I've got a better one. Since everyone's already saying that Barcia has the championship in the bag How about Blake baggett (since he's no longer in the points hunt) puts his mind on only taking out Barcia in the main events. heck, thats what whartons doing. Baggett is faster than Barcia. How about he just puts barcia in the cheap seats with about 9 broken bones , surgeries etc... Listen to me Dean, u want an easy championship??? Lets get your boy baggett. I'll show u the money and barcia's done till next year.
Sure hope people talk as much about the Stewart take out move on Villi as much as they talked about Reed...and that was for the number one spot. You really don't think he is thinking about points when he is coming into that corner. Hope to see Reed win, with everything he is paying out of pocket. This is going to go down to Vegas, just bought my tickets for SLC and Vegas!!! Whoever wins this deserves it.
WHATEVER is a punk hoe
@ bd200 wrote:
"Just watched the race, and YES Stewie took out RV2, I guess its Stewie being desperate. It was a dirty stupid move."
RV2 used the EXACT move on Dungey last year and both of them went down.. Remember that ??? Did you see towards the end of the race when RV2 used that EXACT same move on Cole Seeley ?????
The big difference from the Stewart vs Reed incident is that at least JS7 was headed in the right direction, Reed was not.
When RV2 cleaned out Dungey last year, RV2 had no chance of making that turn ...
Entering that corner, Stewart was looking directly at Villopoto's handlebars, with every intention of making hard contact. He even continued to look after he passed the point of contact, to make sure he knocked Ryan down.
Those two aspects of the collision indicate a premeditated take-out.
RV's throttle housing was smashed, and his throttle was sticking afterward.
@ jairtime wrote:
"Payback's a biznitch, JS."
Yes you are correct, RV2 is receiving payback for pulling that EXACT same move on Dungey last year.
@gibbering idiots wrote:
"Entering that corner, Stewart was looking directly at Villopoto's handlebars, with every intention of making hard contact. He even continued to look after he passed the point of contact, to make sure he knocked Ryan down."
What are you talking about ???? Stewart already made the turn and was pointed down the straight and accelerating. Stewart at that point had a half-bike length on RV2 ...
Reed was aiming for the rut at the exit of the berm, when Stewart throttled into him. They were both block passes with a title on the line, i'm not saying Stewart was wrong....but don't cry about it when you pull the same pass in mid-pack. I would like to see people give the same B.S. to Stewart that they gave Reed.......come on Ralph step up!!!
Remember, When Bubbles takes people out, its ok, because he's the fastest man on the planet!!!! RV will remember this.... And to all the Stewart Fan-tards, Thanks!! Your boy really helped Reed out!!! LMAO!!!!
@Organdoner, Stewart got credited with 18th because him goerke, and whoever the other rider was that went down never did a lap, and since they didnt complete a lap their finishes were based on their qualifying times. I thought it was effed up at first too, but once I heard the explanation it makes sense... and I really dont care for stew. @slarveson Im way more of a sipes fan than wharton, but remember Houston? Yeeeeaaah sorry but sipes kind of had that coming.
Well put "bigtireguy" !!! It is ok because Ralph said so! I can pull up at least ten videos of Stewart taking people out because he thinks he should just get titles handed to him, and doesn't have respect for anyone else on the track. I like to see all the Dungey fans come out and start talking now that he finally pulled a W. and is going to win the supercross title and the outdoors because this track was similar to a outdoor track.....haha good stuff!!!
That explanation of how Stewart got three points last week is not in the rule book. It is just some made up BS to cover the AMA's asses. They would give Stewart the championship check right now, if they could get away with it. So it makes sense that they would just hand Stewart 3 points for no reason.
Wharton paid Sipes back , whats the problem ? RV didnt do himself any favors when he turned down on Stewart. No matter what that pass was a done deal.
Dirt
I like Sipes...but that BLOCK pass was coming and he should have seen it. As for 'JoeDirt" so seeming your a Stewart nut fan, when Stewart turned down on Reed and throttled it..was it a done deal then.........???
It amazes me how so many people hate JS. Of course everyone would say that he tried to take him out. If it was the other way around it would have been "Oh stewart shouldn't of cut down." Idiots.
And, did I not see Villopoto's mechanic, holding a t-wrench, and working on his throttle ? Hmmmmmnnnnn....some people sure got upset about stewart, after his daytona crash.....Hmmmmmnnnn ?
Mr. Motorcross.....Grandpa really...most of us who ride have no idea what MOTORcross is. Please stop drinking its ruining your health.
JTV777.... It was Mr. Motorcross looking for his two smoke.
"Stewart rammed him". ? I am glad i have a slow motion function, so I can see what really happened. As villopoto is perpendicular to the previous straight, and stewart is coming inside, it looks like it will be a nice clean block pass. Then you can see a roost coming from villopoto's rear tire, as he squares it up, and cuts down into stewart. He didn't have to do that, there was plenty of room for him to avoid the contact with stewart, had he just continued around the turn. I like villopoto, but stewart didn't take him out. Looks like villopoto rammed him, not the other way around. He must not have known that stewart was that close, that's all I can figure.
@austrailian rules supercross, so how should it have been scored, tie? Longest lawn dart? If it its not covered in the rule book that way, how is it covered? I mean your the one who knows the rule book.... I cant stand stewart either, but they arent handing anything to him. Hell Id say he deserves the points after that Daytona ride anyway, not that, that would be legit, but that should go down as one of the greatest rides ever.
but thats just my opinion.
Hey Villo! Why don't you "man up" like Reedie and give it right back to Stewie when he takes you out? Reed is not afraid of him. Why are you? Don't let him walk all over you. It is time for you to grow a pair. You should know that Supercross/Motocross is not for the weak.
@bmaw. . . So, when do we get to see those ten or more videos you speak of ? I am very curious myself ! Talk is cheap, but u-tube doesn't lie, so what are you waiting for ?
First off Im a RV guy but...... That video of you sitting on tuff blocks at Jacksonville wasnt very ah.............manly. Its been what three effen years and Im still waiting for you to drill Grant. Dude this deer in the headlights stuff has got to go ! These guys are trying to take what yours ! Start going all valet and park these boys if need be!
Dirt
What a race!! just goes to show, "something about a fat lady". The most consistent riders are emerging as the contenders, how fitting. The "lawn dart brothers", CLASSIC!! "Spreading the carnage throughout both divisions because one liability on the track just isn't enough". Reed haters unite!.....and eat crow together!!! Congrats to YZsean!!! That Toronto dirt(?) was horrible! Big black eye for Feld / dirt worx / etc. Booo!
All the Stewboys ought to be chastising him right now. Think he didn't purposely put RV down? It isn't desperation on lap 3, like Reed did on James on a last lap move. Of course you Stewboys claim RV "cut down". So freaking stupid and blind to the facts. RV didn't even know he was there, Stewart came right at this front wheel instead of trying to pass him cleanly. His plan would have worked perfectly if he had broken his throttle or whatever RV needed to pull into the pits for. That's how he'd like to win the title? Can't win fair and square, chump? I rooted against Stewart before, but now I truly do hate him. I am so sick of the revisionist history about Stewart from his Stewboys. Congrats on 4th place James, Dirtiest Rider on the Planet! By the way, RV took out Dungey last year and that pissed me off too. Dungey did not "cut down" on him, and RV did not "cut down" on James here. For once be objective clowns. RV is going to need to ride with eyes in the back of his head from now on and that puts negative mark on what has been a great season.
Another poster on a previous thread, said that the ama rule is: If several riders dnf the main, it goes by thier finishing order in the previous race (heat race), which stewart won.
bmaw..... back off the moonshine billy ! Your boyfriend gonna quit playing deliverence if you keep talking about another mans nuts !
Dirt
FACT ....there isn't a PRO rider out there who has not run into and been run into during a race. Its part of racing , it isn't golf . You pick your shit up and continue if you can. The only ones dwelling on this bumpin' stuff are in the stands or in front of the tv. Get over it. You don't pass by sitting in the draft on a tight track. It just an excuse to hate on someone whos not your pick. Enjoy the tight competition while it lasts.We could go back to watching Mcgrath get a holeshot and check out , and the funnest part of the night was watching Larocco get a shity start and bang his way through the pack to second. We have 5 guys that ain't playin' ...ENJOY
"trick" if you really are that much of a child I can come show how to look up races on the internet, it was to make a point that racing is racing and don't jump all over Reed because he doesn't care who Stewart is, and will go for blood anytime Bubbles leaves the door open. Hey 'Joe Dirt" the moonshine is good and keep bringing it with this kind of racing....dirtbag!!
@bmaw, if you spent much time on this site, you would know that iI DO know how to look up races on the internet. First you say that you can find more than ten videos of it, then you say it was only to make a point ? Why are are you trying to make 'points' with ficticious allegations? And dont call other people names on the internet, it does not make you look cool at all.
I dont know how many guys get on here trying to be cool but if thats your boat more power to you....I think most of use are calling it as it is. Good times i love it, keep bringing it trick because obviously you don't know what a block pass is.
Anyone else see Iziord do a fist pump over the finish line of the first lap?
That's easily the funniest thing I saw all day!
I stopped appreciating James talents when he showed no interest int the Nats. His williningness to get off the mat after some brutal soil sampes earns the guy major props in my book though.
That being said someone prove to me that James is a dirty rider.,When , if ever, has James intentally taken some one out. ie tbone , ghost ride , pick up pass ,chop block, squeeze off the track,. .
We know he goes braindead with his helmet on , landing on people, crossovers in the air, entering the track while in la la land but im talking staight up Josh Grant style career ending bad intention moves. Someone tell me when James has ridden that way.
Thanks,
Dirt
Sorry :(
Joe Dirt ! Your references to the backwoods lifestye while humorous to an eigth grader are not appropriate or appreciated .
JimM
Is Josh Grant in the series right now? Tell me when Reed. RV, RD did the same thing " a Josh Grant, career ending take-out" and then i think we would all like to know when the last time those same guys landed on people, crossed over in the air, and entered the track in la la land. Only to take those people out for the season. James Stewart is the only guy that does that because no matter what place he is in, he races with horse blinders on his helmet.
Agree with you motoxer4533, Iziod was hilarious ! Two brutal crashes in the lites class , First little Stewart stopped in his tracks on that triple and then climbing back on his bike .Then that kid that Sipes crossed over on knocked unconsious and ragdolling. Man that was ugly !
JimM
Bmaw what are you babbling about CR, RD or RV , read the post ! The question was, "when has James Stewart ridden dirty" like some of Josh Grant.s takeouts ?
JimM
Stewart is a wreaking ball and his fans are morons.
Good racing, Wilson proved something tonight as he made the pass on the pts. leader with ease, he was a little too nice to Barcia after some of his banzai passes in the past! Villopotos nightmare continues, JS & RV collision was an innocent racing incident, nothing like CR's, Stewart had a tough break again, good finish. RD finally got a win as the top dogs had there problems, Mr. consistency CR climbed into the pts lead, but not for long, should make for some great racing ahead!
I apologize....let me read that again.....ok now you read my post again. Ok so tell me when those guys took out someone in a career ending injury.....Stewart is the only guy that takes people out with injury's, you are telling me that landing on people, crossovers, and entering tracks like your the only one on it isn't dirty. Its worse it idiotic...block passes are passes and it's racing, what Stewart does is a different story.....answer your question?
I don't see the JS move on RV any different than the move Reed put on JS earlier this year, other than Reeds was on the last lap and going for the win. Its racing guys. Any true "UNBIASED" fan will tell you that although aggressive, its racing. Reed made a last ditch effort to put his bike in front of JS and take his line away, JS didn't let off/see him, whatever, and they collided. Would JS have let off if he realized Reed was making that move, dunno. JS went to dive under RV last night and RV tried to cut to the inside of that turn, both guys goingfor the same line. RV got the short end of the stick.
None of us will ever know what it is like to race at that level, with a lot of money and fame, and championships on the line. The drive to win for these guys must be enormous, and being a very competitive person myself I see where they will do anything to win. It just kills me on these forums some of the idiotic riff raff that is posted. Its racing guys, contact is going to happen. These guys are going for it and when racing that close at those speeds, guys are going to try to occupy the same line at the same time.
Rant over.
BTW, wheres my English buddy who I was going to bet $10 last week that Dungey was going to win one before the season ended? ;)
Wow! So glad I got my Vegas tickets! This season is AWESOME!
I love JS, I love JS !!! Please hate me, please hate me !!!
I think if someone pointed a gun directly at JS and fired, you would all say that he put his head right in the way of the bullet and made a take out block pass on the bullet. How dare he do that !
Oh yeah, JS did take out Michael Byrne in Jacksonville. He does that all the time to riders he is already in front of.
Tragic
Again, I rest my case...
@bd200.... Dude... Maybe JS7 is just giving back what he has been getting? If its cool for Reed to clean him out (In an even more dirty move) then its cool for him to pass others in the same way. If you dont like it, go watch Baseball or something!!!
Hello again, friends...Please don't get me wrong.
I love insanity and disturbed ramblings. Hell, wild opinion and half-baked
musing without genuine insight can be tons of fun. So can sitting front-row all
alone in the lead tram after dark on your 3rd time through "It's A Small
World!".
Unfortunately without supervised moderation, both of these hobbies can lead
to crippling loneliness, physical beatings, very sketchy social circles, and all
too frequently, horribly chronic self-abuse.
JS7 sucks. James threw it way. He's a wimp for not racing Nationals. Stewart's
not trying. He's trying too hard. Never liked him. He can't win. He's lost his
way. He's all P.R. I hate him. He's brain-dead. He's a dirty rider. James has no
heart.
Give me a break. Let me tell you who's not writing that unbalanced brand of
delusional literary fertilizer.
Somebody who has spent more than 3 television seasons around this sport.
Somebody who has lined up on the gate with a stacked list of riders that are at
his level, globally. Somebody who has ever climbed aboard their bike and
TRIED to put in 1 or more laps around a Monster SX or Factory test track
without an on-call orthopedic surgeon. Somebody who has seen first-hand the
incredible commitment and intense training necessary to not only compete,
but simply stay alive and reasonably healthy at this level.
I love crazy bench-racing propaganda and fanatical enthusiasts. But some of
you young ladies should try to remember... These guys, all of them, are the
very best in the world. i.e. Planet Earth/The Wheel in the Sky/Big Blue.
If it was easy, The Knothole Club would need more seating (and prime-rib).
The End.
WOW bd200Yyour HATE for JS shows again!! When Reed did the same thing, WORES actuly you did not call it dirty but JS is dirty!!! Un real you are. Just like BT was dirty to short at the mxd. Easy to tell who you don't like thats for sure. I am NOT taking JS's side just pointing out how you flip flop on things depending on the riders involved.
Having said that, RV is my Fav and JS did not take him out, RV cut down hard with a bike right there, I feel the Reed JS deal was way more of a take out move, On this one JS was not even close to RV untill RV squared it off.
PS. I was there all day, Walked the track with all the guys and was at the podium after the race. GREAT TIME!!
Thank you BillC for restoring some reason to this post...some of the people on here man, i don't know!
Their overt hatred for certain riders blinds hinders any pragmatic thought proccesses whatsoever.
Anyway, that was an awesome ride by Dungey. Reed and Canard had their chance while Dungey never faultered...not to mention his cardio fitness is throught the roof...get a road bike or a mountain bike and actually race...turning laps at your mx track becomes easy...cardio wise at least.
I don't think Stewart took out RV either...funny thing is he has probably taken out more riders than anyone but it is through recklessness not pre-meditation.
Awesome series.
BigTireGuy...the only one I see that looks "bubbly" is you you fat turd...go enjoy another bacon cheeseburger. Christ my insurance premiums just went up in anticipation of your triple by pass surgery...fat ass.
What a god awful race. Snooze festival for 20 laps.
Great season so far. Maybe one of the best ever. Totally makes up for 2010-which was the most mediocre season in SX history!
Special thanks to Speed for showing that epic battle for 7th while Reed closed in on Dungey with two laps to go. Would have loved to see what mistake he made instead of two lapped riders fighting for 7th!
BKR it sounds like you are "LOOKING" for a reson to hate JS.
@ the what. Thanks. I can't stand flip flopin. Its ok for some guys to do that but not others. BS.
bd200,,, you are whacked !!! RV lft the door open,,, period !!!!! Why dont you tell RV to get off the tracks when the trains is coming throught !!
Man, some of the comments are getting regoddamndiculous. I can't beleive some people are calling Stewarts move on RV after the whoop section dirty. I am not a Stewart fan by any stretch, but there was nothing dirty about that. Stewart went to the inside, leaving RV plenty of room around the outside, but RV, who probably didnt even realize Stewart was there, squared off the turn and came down to the inside and the two came together. The reason I think RV didnt even know Stewart was there was because Stewart was about 5 bike lengths behind RV at the beginning of the whoops, but somehow closed the gap by killing the whoops. It was very reminiscent of the move that Reed put on Stewart last year at Phoenix. Just a racing incident in mid pack that would have gone unnoticed if it didnt involve the top players. And the move that Wharton put on Sipes, NOTHING dirty about it either. Wharton went inside and after watching the replay in slow motion, I could barely see contact, and I think the only contact was Sipes' boot gettign caught on Whartons rear tire and being pulled off the pegs. There was no reason Sipes couldnt have checked up and let those other two slide under him and pass them later. Sipes simply didnt let off, and ran into a tough block which picked his front wheel up and tossed his bike onto the plywood. It looked like it his rear brake pedal or something. It was pretty uncharacteristic of Wharton, but he has been pretty aggressive lately and I am not sure where that is coming from. Maybe he was paying Sipes back a little, and rightfully so, but it was a block pass nonetheless and not dirty. In fact, I can't really think of a pass this year that has been dirty.
I really hope Reed wins the championship, but I think he is going to have to pass guys like Dungey and Canard in order to hang onto the points lead, unless RV and JS have a couple more rough nights.
Villopoto loose that FMF exhaust !! you have not had any great or consistent starts . Do you want my Pro-Circuit exhaust ??
jkline805 Sipes was super FAST, after the crash he came thru the pack so fast it was great to see.
Keep watching Trey! Like with last years 250's he is quiertly making his way to the top!
I believe the comment from "Al Packa" is our very own Ping. Either way, I completely agree with you dude.
i have to say... even though i am not that big of fan for stewart, he did not 'intentionally' take out RV2. stewart came in on him hot through the whoops and did not want to run into the back of him, so he cut the inside. he didnt know rv2 was going to cut down that hard in the corner. RV2 is my pick for the #1 plate, but that was just another racing incident.
When it's all said and done, The Best will have WON.
BUT WHAT IF...
BUT IF HE HAD JUST...
BUT IF ONLY...
BUT IF HE HAD NOT...
But 'IF' Nothing..., pathetic explanations.
Stop defending riders with your lame excuses.
Hindsight is always 20/20; it doesn't matter one bit.
It's the rider who has prepared himself the best for battle...
It's the rider who makes the least amount of on-track errors...
It's the rider who manages his season with the utmost consistency...
It's the rider who is focused on what HE can do; not what OTHERS might do.
He alone will stand on top of the podium when it ends in Las Vegas.
When you crash yourself and crash others, everybody looses.
Once it goes down, it doesn't matter who's fault it was...
You prepare for the worst and you hope for the best.
It's the rider who WINs; that's all that matters here.
Just check all the record books; they silence the critics.
SUPERCROSS RACING is a MAN's SPORT of the highest order.
Finishing a moto in one-piece is the only gift anyone ever receives.
Congratulations to the winners, DEAN WILSON and RYAN DUNGEY...
The best SUPERCROSS Riders in TORONTO on Saturday, March 26, 2011.
Bmaw........... Thats my point exactly JS , CR, RV, RD although they have played bump and run with each other dont ride dirty . My definition of dirty is Josh Grant trying to ride threw RV in Atlanta, what was that 08. Yeah it was a long time ago but that was dirty, dirty dirty and I should know. :). If you havent seen it you tube .
Dirt
BMaw , ima watch the JS RV tussle again but at first glance it looked like RV turned down b4 the apex when 7 expected a bigger arc and with JS entry speed at that point he got caught offf guard. Im not a big 7 becuz of the NATS deal but I dont think he rides with bad intentions is all I am trying to say. Cool ?
Dirt
Stewie came up quick on RV, saw an opening on the inside, and went for it. RV was already planning on cutting down to pass the two guys in front of him, so when he did that, they both went down. Nobody's fault. It was no take out move, and nothing like when Reed cut all the way across the bottom of the corner to attempt a pick-up pass on James.
Awesome season. Dungey seems to have been getting faster and faster, yes, consistently. It was only a matter of time before he won. Still, I'd like to see him ride a little more aggressively when he's battling, I think he's let a couple of positions go by being too nice in other races. JS will probably win a few more, its possible could get on a streak, but his luck and mistakes will have to turn around. Poto has seemd a little off the last couple weeks, but I think he'll get his game back. I think its going to come down to Vegas with at least 4 guys having a legitimate shot at the title.
@BILLC, again, you have no clue what you are talking about. When Reed took down Stewie.YES I did call it dirty, I also said it was stupid, and Reed had no chance of even making the turn so it was intentional. You are just trying to stir up crap. Since Stewie did it, you are saying it was alright. Its easy to see you are still hanging on Stewie nuts just like always, you are not an RV fan you just say that so nobody thinks you are a Stewtard. And I guess you are saying I dont like Reed too, I do like Reed, alot. And RV is my favorite to win because of what he is coming back from. Thats really the only reason. But Stewie knocked him down, if it was anybody else, like Reed taking out your boy Stewie, you would agree with me. Hypocrite..
Speaking of Bubbles.... wrote: about 11 hours ago
BigTireGuy...the only one I see that looks "bubbly" is you you fat turd...go enjoy another bacon cheeseburger. Christ my insurance premiums just went up in anticipation of your triple by pass surgery...fat ass.
wow!!! a one-time post from a secret admirer!!!! classic!
bd200 you are a tool, I am not an RV fan?? You must be nuts!! And I did NOT say anything about Reed other than it was a bad move with little chance and anything good coming from it. You keep telling me I am a JS nut hugger I guess it must make you feel like you know me when you really have no clue like 99% of the time u post. The fact that you HATE JS... Well there is no ??? there, Everyone on here can see that.
BIILC, childish name-calling again. I hate Stewies ignorant crap he does on the track sometimes yes. I hate that he is the "media darling" even when he hasnt won in 6 straight races now, and he gets the camera shots constantly, its dumb. And if I dont know you, you definately dont have any clue about me. Your such a two-faced hypocrite it isnt funny. Always denying you are a Stewie fan, but defend every single ignorant thing he does. Why do you care if I hate him anyway. A dozen guys write way worse things about Stewie than I do, and I am the only one you comment one, what does that say about how you feel about me?? You never get on anybody else for their trashing of Stewie, just me. It must mean that you sure think of me an awful lot.