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It was hard to hear everything SPEED TV's Ralph Sheheen, Jeff Emig, and Ricky Carmichael said during the last two laps of Saturday night's incredible main event, but one thing caught our attention: “It's going to get dirty!” That was Emig, and he was spot-on.
Neither James Stewart nor Chad Reed likes losing, and for the better part of the last three years, Reed has done the bigger share of losing between them. So when their brilliant duel in Atlanta’s Georgia Dome came down to the waning moments and things started happening, the TV broadcast booth simply joined in the roaring themselves, along with some 60,000 other thrilled fans of Monster Energy AMA Supercross.
A rivalry renewed.
Photo: Andrew Fredrickson
It got dirty in the sense that it was obvious from the beginning of the race that Reed would give no quarter to Stewart. Even though they had exchanged some friendly banter the week before—and Chad had done some tongue-in-cheek tweeting over the apparent end of Larry Brooks' tenure as the “L” in L&M Racing—the history between these two goes back to at least Unadilla 2002, where Stewart used a KX125 to pass Reed's YZ250F, slowed to wave him back by, and then took off and passed him again.
This time there was no waving past, but Reed made a mistake through the whoops and blew the cushion he’d earned with two laps to go when he got caught on the outside of Chris Blose in the whoops, then found himself in between a lapped Kyle Regal on the outside and his charging teammate Stewart on the inside. Stewart took the lead, the race seemed over, but then Reed fired back across the inside—and it all played out on TV.
Reed ended the night third, but he wanted more.
Photo: Matt Pavelek
In the end, of course, Ryan Villopoto won. The series points leader wasn't even a factor, it seemed, until the shouting ended and he was the first man across the finish line. But the shouting wasn't really over, as Big James Stewart seemed to give his son an earful for leaving the inside wide open. Some may have frowned on that, but it was no different than a coach yelling at a player after a mistake on the field or being angry at seeing a game lost on a final dramatic play. This is motorcycle racing, and emotions can and will run high. That's part of the beauty of this sport.
So now what? Who has the momentum? Where's Larry Brooks? What will happen at Daytona? How dirty is it going to get?
If you're a fan of supercross, the answers themselves don't matter as much as the fact they we finally have some really good questions again!
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reed..lets see what peoples got to say..im extremely happy this happened..i want james to pull the most hidden takeout ever..i was reed to pay for what he did..bubba had so many chances to knock him off berm after berm but he didnt,if contact was made at all..reed couldnt even tell..he will friggin complain and cry all day about stewarts dirty ridin but comeon..who say james wrap him over a toughblock...reed landed the triple..cut the corner and if bubba woulda hit the brakes,you know dang well reed woulda jumped into the 6inch concrete wall..i mean if he "gave" james the option to slow down or let him hit him..im sure james wouldnt have slammed him,hes smart enough to go for the points right? i mean reed acts like the "incident" was no biggy..he cut a b-line into bubba..wheres everyone jumpin on reeds bandwagon this week? great coverage but...reed definately knows he was goinn to hell for that run..dirtiest takeout of the year..right there
Big James giving him an earful on live television. Last time I saw Daddy Stewie isnt his coach or his trainer. He needs to take a walk to the stands and stay there. It was classless and embaressing I think. He is a 25 year old man who has made millions, I'd tell him to hit the stands or move out of the house that my money bought.
Just because reed decides to make an aggressive move on the last lap of a main event doesn't mean it makes him the dirty rider. Anyone who isn't willing to clean someone out on the last lap to win a main event shouldn't even be out there. If reed was in the lead and stewart was in 2nd he would have done the same thing. It's a part of racing, if neither of them would have went down then it would have been a great move by reed and not even talked about, but since stewart goes down its a big ordeal.
bd200,, you expect Big James just to sit there and not show any emotion ??? Cmooooooon man .......... I'm pretty sure Big James and Sonya made their share of sacrafices for their kids well before they turned pro.. Dont act like JS did all this himself... I think Big James is an OK guy... Now Tony Alessi on the other hand,,, is not.....
All that on National TV. Good Job Reed. Reed looks like a God for what he did. If stewey hadn't left the door open for Reed, he would have gone into the whoops w/ no momentum. Surely reedy would have rode that berm tuff and had another gear on james thru the whoops. It would have happened sooner or later. Reed wanted that win so bad. Chad.. You got it in my book. Way to be tuff. Sick of people always getting out of stewey's way. Only Hot sauce n reed wont give in. Love it
Bubba made a huge mistake leaving the door wide open, he knows how to go fast, but he sure isnt a very smart, or defensive rider. Its like he rides like he's the only one on the track, and doesnt know how to adjust to any obstructions or deviations......just go fast!!!
Just when I started to remotely respect Reed for what he is trying to bring to the sport with his own team and his performance last week, I quickly realized he is still a scum-bag cry-baby on Saturday night. I would not be the least bit upset if we never saw Reed race EVER again. Go home and teach your son how to run track in Assie land cause we don't need any cry-baby offspring in the US.....
@bd200 : I think youre wrong for saying that about Stewart's father! First of all, if it wasnt for his father, Stewart wouldnt be where he is today. Yes, James had the talent and speed to gain the success where he is now but his father is the back bone of all that! No matter how big you become or how much money you make, you ALWAYS show respect to your parents! No matter how old Stewart is, you show respect to your parents! I hope you have the same for yours!
"dirtiest pass of the year". Remember Blose in the LCQ at pheonix??? He took out 2 dudes to make it. If he hadn't done it, he wasn't going to the main. You have to ride aggressive on these feld one liners. If they're were more passing lines you wouldn't see such dirty riding. I think shorty's the worst/dirtiest out there. nobody says anything bout shorty
no way james could have stop, but instead he choose to ram straight into chad. I think james just can not handle being beaten. and for that did'nt even get on the podium. hahaha go reed 22
Any idea how much money was on the line if he passed Stewart? Enough to make anyone do the same thing.
reed is gonna take js out again..and then the flagger is gonna run over and give james father a tissue..and erin bates is gonna have a seizure cuz we all know wt chicks with bolt ons and a overbite like the bling bling..
Stewart had 2nd wrapped up but then tried to play with Reed in that final turn, which costs him 2 more spots. I think that is what Big James was mad about.
@bayden,,,, Are you serious ??? Reed SLAMS into JS,, and you say " I think james just can not handle being beaten." Dude, you are dilusional....
maybe stewart should look ahead and not at his front fender and he will maybe stop running into people ,jason thomas and now reed ... haha
its not nice either way,i think its just they both so competative,its racing, shit happens
they need to get passed it and quick, before the ryans start running away with the points
this is the best season i have seen 2006, stay healthy boys!!
Reed is a swagman. Nothing wrong with block passes at all. Pretty sure Stewart was the one who launched into Reed, thats racing.. Deal with it all you Reed haters. You gunna c more of it. Its not tiddly winks, they are fighting for a championship.
Fellows, Fellows ... lets not blow this out of proportion. Didnt you just watch an hours worth of the best bar bangin, block passin, slammin, and jammin video by Todd Huffman on Sunday on CBS?
This is just racing ! Not smart racing but good for the spectator racing.
When was reed whining about anything on Saturday? U guys are *****s. Shut up and enjoy the racing, cause that's what they're doing, racing. U want one guy to dominate a whole night? I sure don't
If Reeds pass wasn't dirty, it was certainly stupid. Think about it, he basically threw away the race. Even if it was Stewart's fault (which it wasn't), Reed had to know there was a huge risk factor. So all I'm saying is that Reed is a jackass or he's a dumb ass.
I dont think chad needs the $ that bad. its more about pride, bragging rights, and the satistaction of winning. but it was still a dumb move. and stewart was dumb for his actions, following the crash. like stewart said on wind tunnel, they need to worry about the 2 ryans, and not get so caught up in each other. in a sense, it's the old vets, against the new kids, still trying to prove they're faster..
I didn't watch the race but I saw a photo sequence of that whole corner, why are people saying reed ran into Stewart? It looks like Stewart pinned it into reed?
Whats with everyone taking Bubba's side?! anybody remember Jason Thomas getting jumped on a couple weeks ago? that was smooth. Notice js7 on everystart tries to take everyone out off the gate? Give it to him Reed! About time that someone shows Bubs a little aggression.
Reed making it more interesting than it already was! Cool to see that JS can not keep just runing away with it :D:D James,Chad,Villopoto and Trey Canard has shown a lot of heart!!! Not so much Dungey :S expected a lot more of him
I want to see that last half of the lap where stewart is messing with Reed. SOMEONE's got to have that footage, right???
Sounds like divorce court! If this was the lcq it would be ok for the last transfer and the person in the lead would expect it.The lcq is for a grand or so and the main program and a few points. This was for a friggen WIN!!! He left the door open and that is why big james is upset! James should be pissed! AT HIMSELF! Half of the field would have done it! Let's take a poll of the top 10 in points.
1. Villo yes
2. stewart yes
3 Reed yes
4. Canard yes
5. Dungey ??? hard one he probably would being down a bunch in points..
Past champs? Emig, rc, mcgrath Johnson, stanton, Bayle wardy?
Yamaha35, I totaly agree thats why pops racer got mad, I wish they would have shown it on TV. (maybe they did in a highlight, but I didnt see it)
its stewart fault in 90 .s they raced all like reed now he put door widt open.
thats racing
Smee113- Thank You, my thought exactly. Big James did go a little "Tony Alessi" after the race and that looked horrible. Everyone was fired up and upset and JS7 let it get too him too obviously with his antics on the last lap, too bad it came down like that, but its racing..i have been there too.....a blatant take out like that suprised everyone, esepcially after all of Reeds " i respect James and we are friends" talk , but Reed knew it was 50/50..an agressive /clean pass would have gone over much better, but Reed couldnt get close enough to do that.....DAYONA!
all the posters on here talking crap about Reed, its all good, BUT
If not for Reed, this would have been one of the most boring races and none of us would anything to talk about let alone now we get the anticipation for Daytona.
If you remember MC's domination you remember it as boring a lot and you also remember it appeared guys pulled over at times. So cool to have super fast guys going at it AND going at each other ............ enjoy it dudes, this is good stuff
Its called block pass for a reason ! James has three options at that point , Rail the outside, protect the inside or clog the middle and each option gives Reed a countermove. James chose the outside slingshot and it didnt work because Reed was too close and he countered with the mother of all block passes. James had to have seen what Reed was doing and thought he could bust through. When they collided it became the old pick up pass. I could sense it coming but still couldnt believe it when I saw it, What race !
Dirt
good move from reed ... its not dirty racing ... its called racing ... all these pussies saying he is dirty dont understand whats it is like ... he did what he had to do... if you dont like the rough bar banging ... then go play ***** sport .... go play a sport where they call fouls ...
Best race in what-20 years? And all you guys are *****in? Cmon man!!!
I was amazed how cleanly they were racing together in the main. Like there was some new found respect for each other. But then lapped riders started interfering, and Stewart's team mate got in the way, I think Reed saw red and went for it. I think Big Jame's was just making sure there wasn't a big scene for the cameras.
Holy shit, there are some dumb people on here....and blind too.....just my opinion, of course!!
Reed is a b*tch according to everyone even though he had the nads to drive it in on the media darling when he left the door wide open. It was an overly aggressive block pass, so what, happens all the time. If James really couldn't see him in the bottom of that corner before getting on the throttle it just reinforces everything that's been said about him not looking around himself on the track. Same reason he finds himself in all kinds of bizarre tangle-ups with other riders. I don't think it was the smartest move by Reed either and he basically admitted that but guess what, not everyone lays down for # 7. We wouldn't have seen that move if there was more than half a lap left on a one-lined track. Props to both of them for an awesome main event.
Reed is a putz!!! That was the cheapest cheapshot shot ever. From a cheapshot artist. This time it didn't take them both out for the season. It was a good race until that bullsh#$.
best race i have seen in years i didnt see anything dirty i saw good racing as a bmx racer of 8 years when the door is open for a possible win you gotta take it everyone says oh its points...but i can tell you from expierence when your racing unless you only need a certain amount of points to win a championship...you dont think about points you think about crossing the line first...AWESOME RACE cant wait for daytona
Anybody hear Ricky say "We've all been there" when Big James was barking and flapping ? I've been on both sides of that deal and at the end of the day, elite level or schmoe, when your all in it doesnt get any more honest than that. Wonder why Erin didnt interview Mr Stewart, she was only 10' away ?
Jim
Dear JS7 ball lickers,
Stop being cry babies that your favorite rider lost. For all of the people that James has taken out (Preston, RC, IT, JT$, Kyle Partridge, etc), its just karma catching back up to him. He would have finish second if he wouldn't have let his anger get the best of him (one of his biggest problems) for trying to take out chad for the rest of the last lap. As for Reed, you can't hate on a guy for fighting until the end to win the race. All of the riders should be like that.
If you guys watch the WindTunnel Interview with Stewart (It's on vurbmoto.com if you missed it), James said that Big James was yelling at him to go back to the pits. He was not mad at him. He wanted him to go back to the pits so he doesn't give an interview while he's upset. Remember last year when he took some heat for his Phoenix (i think) interview after he crashed. He was asked what happened. He replied "I crashed" and people took that as being rude. Why would he want to repeat it again. Big James was looking out for him.
If your truley faster than the guy you are racing, then you should be able to avoid block passes that will leave you or both riders on the ground...Dean Wilson did it all night.....
Here's an idea. Why don't they just create a new rule allowing each team to have one blocker. Then throw some Somoans on bikes and send them out. We can turn the sport into a sideshow- American Gladiators. This is not racing. Racing is the fastest man wins. Rubbin' Is Racin' is for rednecks. Any one of us can get out on the track with a bunch of pro's an clean someone out like Reed did. What if all the rest of the riders decide to start taking out Stewart, Reed, Villopoto and Dungey every race. Is that what we want to see???
You hit someone from behind in full pin mode, please ! Any one that's rides or raced knows that collision was James choice. Props to James, it could have been all bad for Chad.
Dirt
It's solidified now. I was a Reed fan- now I'm a Reed fanatic. I have a lot of respect for all those guys, including Stewart, but that move was legit. Most people can't handle the golden boy getting dealt a dose of his own medicine. He left the door open and didn't hit the brakes. He made his choice, just like jumping into Thomas a couple weeks ago, Partridge last year, Preston before that, and on and on and on- he can deal with the consequences of his actions. Villopoto did the same thing to Dungey last year, but Dungey hit the brakes. Who here screamed about that? Oh ya, nobody did.
How many times is Blose going to JAM the leaders up as he's getting lapped? He's such a non factor in the main it's ashame the only way he seems to get his name mentioned is because he refuses to move over for leaders until it's too late. Someone needs to park his a$$ off the track and teach him how to get out of the way.
So many Reed haters...man did anyone actually watch the race? Reed could have cleaned James out on the first lap when he went up the inside and tried to block james when he rolled that single but no. Chad left him room and James was still able to triple past Chad. The entire race everything was clean untill James tried to paste Chad in to Kyle Regal!! Like what the hell are people watching here? James started it and Chad finished it with a clean block pass that James waste willing to accept so he held it on right into Reed taking them both out. It was the same type of move 2 weeks ago when James couldn't accept the fact that he got a bad start when he spun sideways coming out of the gate but decided to hold it on till he took out about 10 guys in the first turn!! The kid is an idot, period. If he hadn't had screwed everyone on the start, then landed into Jason Thomas and then hold it on right into the side of Chad last week, he'd be at the top of the points and seen some good clean racing.
P.S. Chad is the man! How many people invest what he has at this stage of his career and on top of it, steps his game up to heights that its never been at??? Who? No one, even McGrath didn't think he could do it. Love him or hate him, you have to respect Chad Reed. I think he's awesome. I love that he isn't super pumped or wanting to thank the lord for his win either...the dude is awesome!
Guys that ride motocross say "That was a great block pass....right on Reed!" Guys that ride scooters/bicycles to mall to pick up tampons for thier wife say "That Dxmn Reed...he's a dirty rider!"
Just a note to help calm the waters here: I dont think the action of being taken out is that big of a deal to most of us... it is racing and makes for good racing. All racers do it and have done it and to keep score of who took out who is silly....the way it was done this time around just seems unfortunate. A lot like Hansens move on Cunningham, why is the question....as fast as reed and JS7 were going and considering Reed knocked himself out last year...it just seemed a little unecessary considering how the race went and now JS7 knows how Reed wants to play....so I cant wait for more personally....take each other out and we'll watch RV2 take the title!!!
HEY. if you guys would have been in the stands and not just watching on tv. You would have seen js brake checking and screwing with Chad laps before that if he would have just raced instead of screwing with Chad maybe he would have pulled away. Did any of you ever watch James in the amateur days ? I think big boy was upset that James did not wreck Chad. I saw James at Lorettas get a bad start and wreck every guy he passed on numerous occasions BACK AT YA ! Was not a big fan of reed but changed my mind. He ain't SCARED Go VILLO.
the angle reed took into that corner only had one outcome and that was taking out stewart to hopefully win. when you make a move KNOWING you're gonna take out the other rider you needa check yourself before you get knocked the ***** out in the pits lol. thats not racing thats riding with vengeance. but yeah like redbeard65 said, it will definitely make for better racing for the rest of the season. Reed just set a pace he can't even hang wit lol. if he wins another race this season i'll be shocked. he wont if stewarts on the track
@ GDX. Yes banging bars is racing. Second, not everybody can just jump on the track and hang with these guys.
Third! Everybody on here that thinks Reeds pass was dirty is gay. Stewart has used this pass on Reed several times, then ran his mouth about Reed running into him.
O yeah one more thing if the bro show was not so worried about trying to wreck reed when they got back up he would. He would not have got passed again buy reed. He not be thinking you axed ME !
This will be Reed's farewell anyways...It's obvious he dosesn't have the speed and these acts of desperation(kinda like Hanny going backwards and t-boning Cunningham deperation) will only buy him so mutch time before he finds an excuse not to race.
You hypocrites saying that the move was legit, and "Reed is da man", would be screaming bloody murder if it would have been the other way around and you know it!! And don't tell me i'm a JS fanatic and that i would do the same thing!!! In my opinion that was a dirty intentional move and would have been every bit as dirty and INTENTIONAL if Stewart would have done it to Reed!!
What is this TMZ? All I care about is that the racing is close and awsome! Maybe some of you are too young to have been to a national when you knew Ricky would win or a supercross that you knew Jeremy would win (Im too young for the latter) but it sucks. Trust me this is way better.
Smee is a piece of s**t on the message board. b-ratt, who's a cry baby? Re-read your post. Sileightyish, your an idiot, disrespectful, are you kidding. Go get in your crib and get back to tiddly winks and quit whining like a little *****. Stewart left the door open and ended up on the ground. This happens every race all night long, riders just don't always go down. Pay some attention you morons. Great racing.
I won't pick a side on this debate I'm just happy we've got a couple guy's with the balls to run it into each other when it's all on the line. Bubba probably relearned a valuable lesson when he didn't protect his line and brake up so Reed ran him in. He's so used to running away he probably forgot that one......bet he's more careful next time.
At least Reed does not have "daddy" around him to fight his battles for him. He is not a child. It is very unfortunate to see the lack of maturity among some of the so-called pros. MAN UP GUYS!!! Leave your parents at home after you reach the pro level ... if you have the guts.
haha if stewart wouldve done the same to reed, reed woulda dome rocked stewie aussie style, tossed stewarts bike onto him, just like carmichael did when stewart took him out, then reed wouldnt have jacked around and taken 2nd on podium, and for whoever saw it live. Im pretty sure us watching it at home on tv saw it a quite a bit better than you did, unless of course you had binoculars with you. Reed reeled in stewart a couple of times and pulled a gap on stewart. stewart only caught up when reed got caught up in lappers and a san manuel, two two motorsports sandwich. IM LOVING THIS RAING BRING ON DAYTONA!
I agree with HJ, BD200 u are way out of line saying that. That Man like him or not has givin his hole LIFE to help his boys do what they do. Could you ever kick your dad out of the house?? If you could that sad.
racing*, and in all seriousness, im just glad that the racing has been great this season and has not been as boring as last years.
reed had no chance on making that turn to, wreck somebody is racing your stupid reed a punk and has been trying to take out stewart for years. I have talked to people at tracks for years and talk about stewart and have too many people say something about his color, all you rednecks just know that your a player hater drives you nuts to watch a african american dominate this white sport.
Fancypants, what do you mean cr22 doesnt have the speed, he was on it, and actualy was maintaining the gap he had on js7 untill he picked a bad line going around lapper Blose. Sure they both made mistakes, but cmon you cant say cr22 doesnt have the speed. like I said before js7 is the fastest, but cr22 is the smarter.
I don't care what ya call the move, But IMO it was DUMB. If JS somehow new that was coming and cut down Reed would have never made the turn anyway, He was 90deg to the track and less than 8 feet from the edge of the track. He had every intent to hit JS and Hope for the best IMO.
With no disrespect to James, Reed did what he had to do. Everone knows who the man to beat for this champoinship is, and even with the points like they are, it is JS7. Eventhough it wasn't clean, Reed did what he had to do to stay in the game. It just shows how competitive these guys are. If you're in a war would you really care about what's fair and just let the enemy take you out? No, you just do what you need to survive.. Beleive it or not this has tightened up the championship hunt even closer. Reed gained ground and so did Dungey. If Villo hiccups this thing is gonna get really tight!!! 5 guys are still poised to take this championship. We're still not half way through. Bring on Bad Ass Daytona, it doesn't get any better than this!!!!!
Did you guys see the clip of RD running Metty over in practics?? WTF was that??
Has everyone forgotten how many riders js has knocked down or landed on. Remember when he landed on Carmichael, James should have anticipated Reed cutting across like that, Stewart does it all the time, and riders either check up or cut back under him, Stewart ran into Reed because he doesn't care, Reed and Tedesco don't take his crap.
@Kyle
Player haters? Really? I'm hoping you are not stating that Stewart is a player, because if you have seen Stewart try to pick up chicks on that god awful show Bubba's World then you would realize how false your statement is haha. Stewart has zero game. And I seriously doubt anybody on here dislikes Stewart because hes black, but the fact that he is very arrogant on the track is a pretty good reason to dislike him.
Bill, I don't think Dungey saw him till the last second!! What's your thoughts on Reed and James last lap incident?
I agree, Stewart wouldn't think twice about taking somoen else out, Reed did what he had to do much to our pleasure. Great racing!!!
BTW, I can barely hear the announcers for any of the broadcasts. Yes I like to hear the bikes, but Sheheen and company are actually a pretty good combo and I want to hear what they have to say. I was thinking about contacting Speed...does everyone else have the same problem? I have a pretty nice 5.1 surround system...
@samcrow, it's funy you think that by Reed picking a bad line around a lapper and then pulling a stupid, selfish and desperate move like that makes him smarter?!?! lol
I keep seeing this kind of comment..."he cut a b-line INTO bubba" but that is just not the facts. If you watch the replay, Stewart ran INTO Reed. Yes, Reed took an aggressive line, extremely aggressive but Stewarts front wheel impacted Reed's bike on the side which means Reed got there first. You cannot argue with the facts. If Reeds front wheel hit Stewarts bike in the middle that would have been different, but watch it again, Reed was there first. It was very aggressive but the facts are the facts. I'm sure Stewart will repay the favor soon.
I haven't seen the 'Incident', only read your comments about it. I'm glad none of you are AMA adjudicators lol. Great season of SX though, lovin it. Only thing that's letting it down is some of the brainless duds with internet access who frequent this site.
@mj84, look at the video and tell me how Stewart could have avoided Reed coming at him nearly backwards on the track! hahaha!
So Stewart fans are ranting that it was Reed's fault for being too aggressive and Reed fans are ranting that it was Stewart's fault for leaving the door open. Shocker. It was a great battle and we as fans got robbed of a good straight-up battle that didn't end with one or both guys going down. Stewart shouldn't have left the door open and Reed should've known that that pass had no chance of ending well. A similar crash last year in Phoenix resulted in Reed breaking his hand. He's lucky the same thing didn't happen this time. Stewart trying to take the high road and saying "I don't ride like that" on Wind Tunnel is a bunch of BS too. No Stewart, you never make aggressive block passes. You just land on other riders...constantly.
Dirty? yes. motocross? yes. welcome to the sport. anyone saying that reeds move was uncalled for has NEVER been in a dual for a race position especialy first. Where were u all when Kdub cleaned out DV? he seems to still be liked?
I am sure bubba is mad. who wouldnt be? but deep down i think he understands that this is motocross and shit like that happens and if he wouldnt have made the mistakes reed never would have been in the position to make the move. (vise versa)
I gotta agree with Lex Luthor on this one although alot of peeps will say that Reeds move was dirty i think that Stewart should not have pinned it and rammed Reed. It would have been smarter for him to hit the brakes and then try to get Reed back. what do u guys think
Pretty sure Reed would have stayed ahead of Stewart in that corner if Regal would have slowed down and moved over for them before the corner like most lappers do. Regal slowed up Reed which allowed James to run it up the inside and pass him. James tried to pass Chad in that corner a few times earlier in the race with that exact same line and he couldn`t make it happen because Chad would rail the outside. Just sayin
I love all the people commenting that Reed is dirty and such. This is racing. We pay to see people try to win races. Reed was trying to win the race. I like both of these riders and I loved it. Bubba could have shut off, he didnt and they went down. Bubba even got going again first. Great race, like I said, I didnt even know Villopoto was in the race till after it was over. The big two are back in a big way. They make our sport bearable to watch. I would love to see Bubba try just as hard as Reed and I loved seeing Reed go for the W. That was a race.
Stewart fans ca suck it! James didn't protect the inside and Reed went for it. Stewie would have done the same. And Reed would have made the turn, watch the replay. I hope Stewart tries some BS takeout and Reed punts him into the third row!
Reed bugs me, acting like he is a good husband and saying how much he loves his wife.... In Vegas we see his bad side and it is really bad!
When Hansen #100 lived here you heard the same stories, only difference is that Reed is married. Hansen is what he is, not that fake ass Reed.
Dear FoyBoy517,
I am on Chad's bandwagon. Always have been, always will be.
Good luck in school!
Common guys, we all knew it's going to get dirtier on the final laps. If you Listen to RC4 and Emig, they have predicted its going to be nasty...
Its funny how people turn sides week after week... Last time, it was JS7 when he landed on JT$... Now its Reedy taking out JS..
Watching the race, I know adrenaline is getting high as JS7 throws anything what he can to CR22, and saw that chance by slicing hard in an inside line, making his own teammate a tuff block for reed..
And let me ask you this question since we all ride. Given that wide chance of putting a block pass on the last lap of the race, would just let yourself smoked, walk home and say, I could have done that? Though we would have different personality, but I for myself would take that opportunity...
This is the very nature of our sport, we have to be aggressive if time is needed and an opportunity is presented!
And please don't say that someone rode dirty, someone rode dumber than the other one. We all know that when we were push to the edge, sometimes the other side of ourselves comes, and that is why sh!t happens!!!!
Im not taking sides neither of the two... I like them both as they have bring our sport in a different level.
Accept it guys... in this sport, sh!t always happen!!!!!!!
Good luck to all of you guys and stay healthy throughout the season!!!!
WOW!!! Charlie Sheen is a mess!!!
what a joke. Short says he's still getting the feel of the 350. Any more excuses??? He couldn't win on a 450, why make excuses for the 350. Bench him and alessi and let Roczen show us all that bike's potential. MIGUEL>>> you the man. go Reed and Poto
The thing I like about what happened is that Reed kept Stewart from taking the points lead.
Go Reed! I used to not care about you one way or the other, but now I have a lot of respect! After that move, I'll always root for you too, along with other riders I have respect for.
Face it, people, this is motocross, these are motocrossers, and it's a dog eat dog world out there. That's the way it is in non-AMA pro motocross at any track in America: a dogfight.
"jairtime"...you have officially become the biggest blowhard, hatin', racist douche-bag on these message boards........IN MY HONEST OPINION!!! Jealous much??????????
Also, i want everyone of you who say it was not dirty, and that it is just racing and that it was Stewarts fault and that JS would have done the same thing, to get on here and post if and when James returns the love to Reed and say the EXACT SAME THING and applaud Stewart for doing it!!! Fair enough haters???
Reed is a punk, and he knows Bubz is faster... the only way he can beat him is to try and take him out....James lost time due to a few mistakes and caught reed both times....i had little respect for the punk before but its all gone now...
If you watched the pass live in SpeedTV it looked like Reed was torpedoing James, but have a look at the pass from this angle. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyY5ES8Ta6o
Here it looks like a classic block pass and nothing more. James could have backed off a little, but you know how it is, they both want the win bad and were going at it for 20 straight laps. I even had to put down my cheese puffs I was so glued to the tv.
Come on guys. Stewart thinks he is the only guy on the track. Reed did what a great rider with talent can do: go for the win. Dirty? What about James three corners before? What about keeping Reed´´s bike on the ground?
RUBBINS RACING!!!
get over it, this years shaping up to be epic
redbeard, suck it!
Not sure how many of you guys know what racing is , but sounds like you may ride a yellow bus! Im a stewart fan and a Reed fan , that was a dirty stupid move cause if you finished grade school you know 2nd is better than 3rd and 1st is better than 4th!! That dumb move cost reed and stew!!! Oh yea dont for get the guy who you wanted and needed to beat now beat both of them! So now there both farther behind in points STUPID MOVE!!! Reed should have took second and the points with it.
On thing I noticed this race is that Reed seemed to start making mistakes when JS7 was really on his tail. He got squirrly off the triple and then almost bought it on the tuff blocks before the finish. Should be intersting to see how things play out next time the #7 comes up behind #22 and how Reed handles the pressure knowing payback " could" happen........It is racing and it happens all the time and will happen again....I dont think JS7 will risk taking himself out to get revenge his main competitor is RV and he needs to get points....When JS7 needs to put a whoopin' on the rest of the field (like 2009) he usually puts the BS aside and goes out does it....I am still pulling for RV to win it all....
I love the stewart haters saying James somehow ran into him while getting taken out. Do you have something against the guy? Your hate is showing through. You guys can't even think straight. It was dirty and that's sweet man, we won't even get that back from stewart, because he doesn't ride like that and never has. His 'dirty moves' have all been unintentional mistakes, and that makes the difference between him and reed. James has gotten lit up as a 125 rider for passing backmarkers aggressively, but nothing like this, ever, where he would sacrifice himself. Reed is the man. Stewarts ungodly speed has allowed him to not have to resort to craziness, but if he had to, I'm sure he would do Josh hill proud and take a guy out. But I guess we'll see, or not.
"If you watched the pass live in SpeedTV it looked like Reed was torpedoing James, but have a look at the pass from this angle. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyY5ES8Ta6o
Here it looks like a classic block pass and nothing more. James could have backed off a little, but you know how it is, they both want the win bad and were going at it for 20 straight laps. I even had to put down my cheese puffs I was so glued to the tv."
I agree with this... The moment reed landed on the tripple, he immediately looked at where JS was, applied brakes, turns his bike in an angle for a block pass...
If james could have seen it coming, he might have held it a little bit, hit that whoops, and somewhat repay CR22 on the next section or so knowing his lines are far better than reed...
Remember Jacksonville 09.. How JS sarcastically put a block pass on Reed whenever he can, cutting off CR every lines he can. But hey, CR22 handle that one fair & square...
But what else can we say, things happen very fast in this sport!!!
everyone's opinion is valid depending on how you look at it...
c'mon fancy are you serious? like I said "they both made mistakes", and that put them both in the position they were in, then cr22 made the only move possible for the win, witch didnt quite work out,but...sometimes you gotta thrown em out there, and cr22 did. js7 left the door wide open, wich he probably regrets.
whatever- I thought is was not dirty and just racing. But I don't think it was James' fault or Reed's. They both made a bad choice. And if James does the same thing, next week or whenever, your damn straight I'll be here sayin' the same damn thing. ITS JUST RACING! What about you? Will you be here saying it's DIRTY if Stewart does it to Reed? There's 2 things you can do while watching supercross, ***** and cry, or enjoy. Guess which one your doing.
meickey. yep! huh! asrite!
Guys. I knoiw the "if it wasnt for Stewies Dad stuff. His Dad gave him the oppurtunity, but he is now 25 and is his own man. My Dad gave me my job oppurtunity too. But I am the one who has made the work happen. Just like Stewie has. that DOES NOT give him the right to jump all over him like a moto Dad after a race on live T.V. Young Stewie is the one putting in the work, winning the races, and taking the chance getting hurt every day on the track. Not Biggie. To flat out embarress a grown man like that, its a shame, and showed no class.
It is funny how everyone is down on Reed for trying to make a hard pass on James, but I remember James landing on Ricky's back and taking them both out. I guess he didn't learn his lesson, because he did it last year and has already done it again this year. So, until James stops landing on other riders, he can't say much about someone knocking him down. I would rather have someone take me out in a berm instead of landing on top of me.
Holy Hell! Why don't you all go watch greys anatomy if you are all so caught up in F-in drama? Like a bunch of hens clucking at each other. This is why the outdoors is REAL racing. None of this B.S.
and men...
I really love how the way FRO, RALPH & RICKY screaming on the booth...
I just love that... My whole family is also screaming that very last moments!!!
I have just watched the race for the 3rd time. The best racing i've seen for a long time. A dream season to have so many contenders. Keep bangin bars & doing what your doing. Its a battle for the championship so battle! I love it & I like the way Bubba said nothing, he's probably gonna do the talking on the track. Awesome race, its got everyone on edge including the fans. i am hanging for daytona, could be epic!
It's not dirty because it's racing and Stewart should have expected it. Oh wait, it can still be dirty, and wait it is dirty. Nuts. it also ok because it's motocross, so many revelations right now. Wait it was stupid as well because caused two people to crash. He could have gone further inside, but he didn't expect a dirty Chad. He didn't square it because he didn't think chad would dirty him up. Remember Reed is not known for pulling dirty moves. But now he is.
Anyone notice how Reed forced stewart into a mistake at the beggining of the race?
If you think the wreck was Stewarts fault, your a racist.
Go ahead and jump on that TWO TWO bandwagon there Samcrow! See how far it gets ya!! lol I've said it before and I'll say it again, Reeds move was out of desperation! He takes what he can anyway he can! I'm sure he's real proud of it huh?
If Reed and Stewert keep this stuff up Villipoto will laugh alway to the title. Bottom line, Reed did a dirty block pass but it was Stewert that chose not to let off. It was a 9 point gamble. Those of you that think that Stewert does not do the same thing are just turning a blind eye to the truth.
Go Villopoto!
If Reed and Stewert keep this stuff up Villipoto will laugh alway to the title. Bottom line, Reed did a dirty block pass but it was Stewert that chose not to let off. It was a 9 point gamble. Those of you that think that Stewert does not do the same thing are just turning a blind eye to the truth.
Go Villopoto!
Many of us on these blogs are racers. I really try to be a clean rider and an overall nice guy, but here's what you have to be asking yourself...if someone passed me like Reed did Stewie, I think I woulda come up fighting mad. Especially when Stewie kept it clean the whole race including his pass on Reed. I really think Reed was just p!ssed at lappers and a few bad choices on the last couple of laps. No reason to clean out the dude in the lead. Reed loves the American dollar, but really hates the US.
Blueberg, you may have to define "adjudicators" for some of the regulars. BillC, it's hard to tell from the play back, but it looked like Dungey jumped over him without any contact, there didn't appear to be any motion from Metcalfe that would've indicated contact, I hope so anyway.
Dirty pass, by Reed? No. Smart move? No. Was it an exciting race that we all should be thankful for? Yup. Props to Speed for the live coverage. Wish they would've stayed on those two though so we could've seen what the folks in attendance saw. Reed should've taken second and picked up points, but you have to give him credit for going for it. Most all the greats before him would have done it. More than one poster said Bubba was playing with Reed off camera on the last lap, not smart either. He should have tried to pull away and defend his lines instead of screwing around. For those of you who think it was dirty, go catch some Arena Cross and follow it up with a live, in person NHL game between two teams with a deep rivalry. If that doesn't cure you, for the sake of your blood pressure take up bowling or golf. I don't recommend tennis for you because even the chics grunt pretty loud at each other when they're tying to smash it in on their opponents. It's not like Reed T-boned him, just a very aggressive but foolish attempt at a block pass. Watch it again. Nobody seems to cry when Shorty parks someone. Nothing against Villopodium, but CR and Bubba should not have handed him another win. I laughed my butt off when I read "open mic" where RV said he rode by and thanked them. On the podium it looked like RV was trying not to laugh. That was more that a crap eating grin on his face! I was laughing for him! I don't think Dungey strategy of playing it safe will help him retain the #1 plate either. Okay haters, flame on!
Oops, meant to say "that was more than a crap eating grin".
cr22 short curcuited big time,,he admitted it and james acknoledged it on wind tunnel nuf said allready..ATTENTION RACER X WEB GOD.....PLEASE INSTALL SPELL CHECK.
most of ya could'nt spell your own name let alone post a legit comment..yes it was a block pass gone bad..woohoo/boohoo...next week there will be many more, that is a promise
Learn how to read "acejas"....i CLEARLY state in an earlier post that i would call it dirty if JS had done it to CR!!! Nice try though!!!
Wetto107 The correct spelling is: circuited. glad to help! God.
FancyPants:::::::::::: If you rode like reed did, You'd be Proud! dont say you wouldn't. And if you could ride 3/4 as good as Reed.... You would be trying for mains, not keyboard racing.
@SW460 - Well said....that is what I tried to say, however some folks just see in black and white (no pun intendid) ,,not a good move, but thats racing and more racing to come...Stewie needs to get off that Yamahahaha and get back on Kawasaki or a Honda.
RV is classic....First time I actually liked what old boots Bates said " grinnin' like a chesire cat"......and he got more points on both Reed and Stewart...Dungey is pretty much out as long as 2, 7 and 22 share the top 4 every race..he looked like a defeated man even after second..
Samcrow - Hilarious
Wetto107 After further evaluation, the following spelling errors were found: acknoledged aknowledged, allready already, and the propper phrasing would be boohoo/woohoo and not woohoo/boohoo spellcheck complete.
Organdoner, I think Fancys all up on js7's black sack!
Hmmm. Maybe it's just me, but it seems like not everyone is in agreement about what happened between Reed and Stewart....
Wow Samcrow, I was havin some fun bench racin and all but that last comment is CROSSING THE LINE! I'm out........
Quitter! yep huh asright!
Im with you Meickey ! RC and Emig sound like the guys at my house. One thing though, Ricky, with all due respect GOAT, please lose the "aint".
Dirt
Samcrow- not hilariuos
I picked Villo to win this , watch when he has to bang he will.That being said, now that Reed is feeling it , not only will he win at least one more SX this year , at minimum he's on the podium at the end of the year.
Jim
CarlsbadCa
reed needs to take his fake ass smile back to the land down under cuz i have seen it for way to long. he is the only rider i have everf seen that has to put on a fake grin if he does not win(making the main is enough to be happy about
josh hansen+chad reed= peter puffer
BTW whatever, I shut my trap and bowed down when it was obvious JS did his homework. Dont now why you cant do the same when three guys have taken it to him this year.
Jim
Daytona is supercross with a outdoor twist I dont think it will come to any stuffs it will be who can check out from the begining.
my buddy was reeds mechanic his first 2 years at yamaha and reed never even gave him any bonus what so everf. even priveteers give their mechs bonus'
"my buddy was reeds mechanic his first 2 years at yamaha and reed never even gave him any bonus what so everf. even priveteers give their mechs bonus'"
Sir, with all due respect, you're way out of the line!!! We are talking here about what was written on this article.. We are not talking here of bonuses or anything...
And besides, anyone can say that his/her buddy was Uncle Sam's mechanic, and uncle sam didn't give any blah blah to him! Because definitely, nobody will gonna believe that...
Keep the fire burnin!!!! 2nd half, big Question Mark is still on our heads who's gonna be on top after this storm!
Just watched it (DVR). What's all the commotion about? Reed "crossed the T" at the exit and blocked JS's drive out of the corner. JS could/should have pulled up and passed behind Reed, probably out-dragging him to the next corner (but maybe not, which is why Reed did it). My guess is Reed was surprised Stew stayed in it: if he intended to T-bone the guy its not accomplished by putting yourself in front of him so as to GET t-boned. Odd choice Stewie made... but if I am honest I have to say I have done it myself. It's just an "F-you" reflex because the guy checked-mated you in a frustrating way. It's perhaps not the brightest move (staying on the gas), but understandable in the heat of the moment. I have no favorite between them and it looked clean to me. Reed presented Stew with a choice and Stew took the wrong one. Rubbin is NOT racing, but that move was clever, in the chess-sense. One guy's opinion, anyway.
this is motocross fags,,, in any type of raceing anyone would have made the same move that reed did, it seems to me the fasted man on the on two wheels got 4th. not so fast huh.
Im surprised nobody is talking about Dungey. Take out the DNF he had and the guy would probably be sitting 2nd right now in points. Dungey is the quiet storm and he may just win this thing.
@dgizzy...
Nobody is talking about the dunge because he aint doin any buzz at all, though he rode great on the heat slicing, creating opportunities while in traffic.
If the 3 or four in front of him do not take each other out, he would still be in 4th or 5th...
But I would bet any given day for the dunge comes outdoor season!!!
im a stewart fan, but when he left the door that wide open i was screaming at him. who did he think was behind him, nick wey?? dumb. gotta be smarter than that if you want another championship.
Dungey blows.....He doesn't have the passion and aggression of the other top riders. Villipoto, Reed, Stewart and Canard would have all gone for the block pass like Reed did to go for the win. Dungey would have politely followed.
THOR, Stewart left nothing open, that dirty Reed fella cut the track and high sided him right onto the tarmac near the holeshot lanes!!!! WTF get your facts staight like an arrow chump!
Halfway through the last lap, and Stewart leaves the door wide open for Reed...what else can be expected? And from what I saw, Stewart is the one that ran into Reed. Watch the replay- Reed is already in front of Stewart, Stewart goes WFO and ends up on top of Reed. One of two things could have taken place: Stewart could have backed off, went to the inside, got a better drive through the whoops and probably could have won. Option two- get pissed that someone would actually try to block pass the one and only James Stewart, hold the throttle wide open, center punch Reed and not only take him out but yourself out too. Everyone thinks Stewart is God, and that anyone who races against him shall bow down and race for second place behind...sorry, but the results and the points say otherwise. I give Reed all the respect in the world for not backing down from Stewart, and going for it! But because James Bubba Stewart is the chosen son of SX, he can do no wrong. Does anyone remember last year when Stewart cut across a triple and took Kyle Partridge out? Or outdoors a few years ago when he landed on RC? And of course Jason Thomas?
But Reed is the dirty rider.....hhmmm.....oh well. All I know is that Daytona is going to be epic and hopefully RV2 comes out on top. Again.
Jofa....What? Facts straight like an arrow??? Is that one of those Alabama sayings that only make sense to you and your cousins in the next 'holler' over?
Watch the races. Dungey struggles to pass, while the other top riders do what needs to be done to get by. Dungey doesn't display the passion of the other top riders. When was the last time Dungey made an aggressive pass on Reed, Stewart, Villipoto or Canard? Not lately.....
JG223, you have hit the nail square on the head.
wtf man, my sincere apologies as it was by mere coincidence that I used the "wtf" in my post directed at Torsten Hallman Original Gears. Indeed, I agree with you on your comment re: the Dunge....BTW my cousins caint read...
what happened to all the "MEN.' bunch of whiny babies on here. block pass is moto101. james had to see him, should have stayed on the brake a tad longer and dove underneath. you can see him dump the clutch and bolt into reed. he t-boned him, so reed already had taken the line away. they both played the game and both paid for it. the race was excellent. reed stood up to stewarts initial charge and fought back at the end of the race as well. i enjoyed it a lot.
Can't be cutting the track when you're on the track Jofa. If stewart didn't see reed he obviously wasn't looking up the track as he should be. They were side by side at the apex. You would normally be looking ahead by then.
"It is BETTER to let people believe you are an idiot than to open your mouth and remove ALL DOUBT"
All the keyboard riding know-it-all's are really showing their brilliance after ATL. Keep it coming guys, this stuff is internet gold.
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A good point is made above that if Stewart was riding with proper defense in mind, no way does Reed have the ability to cut under him like that. I hadn't looked at it from that angle before. Interesting.
everyone must of just started watchin supercross,obviously no one has ever seen races from the past. By the past i mean,80's and 90's. The riders today are nice compared to the veterans. If Reed would of straight t boned stewart and then flipped him off over the finish line,then that would be how it was back in the day..Get a grip fellas,supercross has come along way since Hannah and the boys!!
Anyone who thinks that James is at fault in this incident or that he "left the door open" in that corner is an idiot! There is not a single rider in the world that can corner a bike faster than James Stewart which means there is no way he left the door open for Reed to pass him cleanly, it means that Chad cut the corner to purposely take out his front wheel. Also anyone who thinks that Chad was in front of James coming into that corner (I'm talking to you JG223) must have been watching another race. If you were paying attention to this race you would have noticed that Chad didnt even turn his bike to head in the right direction (entering the whoops) he was actually heading backwards and off the track. Also if James was not already there for Chad to slam into, Reed would have never been able to make that turn, he would have ended up in the first row of seats. I am no pro, but I do know that two of the commentators are two of the best pro riders this sport has ever seen, and they unanimously agreed that the move was dirty, possibly dangerous and completely over the line! So if you disagree that Chads move was too aggressive and stupid than you must think Carmichael doesnt know much about supercross racing!
Lol I must have offended one of James Stewarts fans...I never once said that Reed was in front coming into the corner. But coming out of the corner, just when it started to straighten out into the whoops, just before disaster, Reed was ahead. Simple as that. James could have backed off, cut inside, saved his and Reeds race. But when you see Stewart hammer the clutch, open the throttle, and pay attention to the amount of roost coming off the back tire, all the while his head is pointed up, its hard to argue. Blatant take out on Reeds part? I don't think so. Bad choice on Reeds part? Yes. Bad judgement on Stewarts part? My humble opinion...yes. But thats racing...and good racing at that. I'm sure I'm not the only one that was on my feet yelling at the tv and wishing i was there in person. And thats what racing is supposed to be. Exciting and unpredictable
Why is it that the worst spellers and most abusive, half-witted posters on this site defend James Stewart???
I just saw the crash from a different angle on youtube...CLEAN. Aggressive, scrub of the century to set it up, but CLEAN. Reed beat him to the spot, like it or not.
jmoto.. In this case you are calling James snr an idiot.. 'cause that was the reason he was mad at jnr...
The move Reed did was aggressive..But legit.. Look at past races with other riders... But, as many others would say... Stewie shud have known better.. Reed's past in aggressive moves are legendary...
He shud have known.. Reed is a different rider as a example Dungey... Hell.. Even Villopoto would have tried a last ditch effort..
Racing man... All part of racing!
According to Youracist I'm a racist I guess, thanks for the clarification.
SW460.. Nicely put... I reckon RV as grinning.. Saying to himself.. "Losers... Suckers.. I just got myself a very easy win and a handfull of points... Ha,ha"
Hey Dave, are you on any kind of medication? If not you should seek professional help. Beyond any of the other stupid sh!t you posted, how do you attack Erin Bates? Of what consequence was she to the race?
I really think you should get meds or something, being a hater isn't going to help you're career. (if you have one) IMO
Well after the race i pulled bubbles into the back of the hauler and kicked the living sh!t out of him for being a dumb a ss. Then i put a tu-tu on him and made him parade around like the lil'b!tch Reed treated him as. Then i invited Erin Bates in for a nice "aint he a b!tch" session... off the record ofcorse.
I guess me and his mother are going to start whiping his butt agian. Gawdam i should have pulled out.
bd200.. I agree.. From the outset.. A father yelling at you and you are 25... Is somewhat of a emberassement..
But.. He was yelling at his son for being a jackass for 1. Leaving room for Reed to pass him.. And 2. After remounting the bike.. His son was dicking around Reed.. enabling Dungey and eventually Reed to pass him.. Adult or not.. i would have done the same thing.. Shows a great level of immaturity on James...
I am a fan of his.. But being a parent myself... I fully support the yelling of James snr... Who cares about TV and all... Maybe that also explains I am a big fan of Tony Stewart as well.. Lol...
BigJamesStewart>> Ha,ha.. Any chance to seem some footage of this? Ha,ha
whatever.. Ha,ha.. There is some truth on your comments regarding jairtime... Understatement of course, accompanied with great sarcasme.. Maybe he (jairtime) has a impressive collection of some white clothing and a pointy cap with two eye holes..
He's a funny guy.. Just laugh it off...
I love the fact that Reed makes this PASS and its deemed Racing. If James made that pass on ANYONE in the field, most of you idiots would have called him DIRTY or a DANGER to other racers. No F-ing consistancey to the comments posted on this website. I hope James puts passes like that on everyone now. If its exceptable for someone to do that to him, then its exceptable for him to return the favour.
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I think everyone should soak it up because how long have we wonted to see this and now its happing. Everyone is crying about who's block passing who and really thats just racing. These days its big money and a lot of pride on the line so there all going to pass dirty our clean when they no whats a steak. All can say enjoy this because we may not see racing like this for a long time
@jmoto, obviously you were the one watching a different race.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyY5ES8Ta6o
The video doesn't lie. Pause the video at 0:22, Chad is in front of James, therefore Chad could not have slammed into James. As for Chad not being able to make that turn, his bike has more than enough braking power to make that turn. In fact, right before they collide, you can see roost coming up from Reed's rear tire, he was on the gas because he knew he would be able to make that turn in time. Also as they collide, Reed's front wheel is pointing in the right direction (towards the whoop section), if James had not been there, the rear end would have came around as well. Was Reeds move stupid? Yes. Was it aggressive? Absolutely. Was it dirty? Absolutely not. James went high in that bowl turn. He should have taken a similar line as the one Reed took anticipating he would try to stick a wheel in on him.
James may have made the mistake to allow Reed to dive in on him like that. But with their new "friendship" and respect that Reed spoke of (allegedly), I dont think James expected a that type of maneuver, especially at Rnd 7. But, It is racing clean or dirty and now James knows Reed is a poser and was only buddy buddy with James because he (reed) was getting smoked the first 5 races and wanted the media to write about something other than Reed suckin it....Now Reed is on the gas and is back to his normal ways
Annndddd on another note....I watched that Wind Tunnel interview and actually thought Stewart handled everything pretty well and I'm not a big fan of the guy. Decent interview for sure. He just better be careful what he wishes for when he calls on the AMA to hand out penalties for incidents because he'd be on the top of the list.
I don't believe nobody can see it....Big James was pissed off, because he just lost a bunch of bonus money and the big check for winning the race. He and his wife struggled and put everything into James so he could be a champ and pay for them. If he ever ends his career, watch how fast that compound and all the toys go away.
MxJesus.. Like your name by the way! I have written this before... A friend of mine is an agent for some sport athletes around the world.. there are agencies who take care of the income generated by those athletes...
It's funny people assuming that most riders will lose all those toys once they are done racing.. And sure.. It happens.. But guys like Stewie, Reed.. These riders are top earners.. And I pretty much believe they have their $$ taken care off.. An they will never have to worry for their remainder of their lives..
whatever "Holy shit, there are some dumb people on here....and blind too.....just my opinion, of course!!" Stop posting and there will be one less. Yamaha35 is right it is JS own arrogance that defeated him. The only reason CR and JS are always getting together is because CR is the only rider most nights that can run with JS and CR is usually in second looking for that number one spot. IT has done the same when JS wanted to ruff him up a little. I’m not saying that JS is a bully just pointing out the obvious.
The majority of u fools are fools the rest of you Reed bashing idiots are idiots.....Did u scolars see Wind Tunnel w/ Dave Despain? All i have to say is...there's your Messiah...good luck in life..;-)
I know Stewie made the misstake of losing 2 positions screwing with Reed on the last lap, and that is probably what he was screaming at him about. But its not his job. He isnt the team manager, or his trainer or anything like that. James is a grown man, and has made Big Stewie a multi-millionaire, so I think the younger James must be doing something right. So dont do that in front of millions of viewers, its classless. And I'm not sure what race some of you were watching. But Reeds move had no chance of working, I dont think Reed makes the turn if Stewie doesnt hit him. Stewie "left the door open" my tail, he had an entire bike length on him. You dont make a block pass unless you have a wheel ahead of the other guy. Reed just dove in out of desperation I think. Not a good pass at all. Reminds me of RV's in St. Louis before he got hurt. I am not a Stewie or Reed fan, (i dont hate Stewie like a few guys think I do) I just try to call it like I see it. And the pass wasnt smart at all. And I dont really care what Stewie said on wind tunnel. If his Dad was chewing his as#, do you think he would say so on the show?? NO!!
like i said ,the 450's class is back.big money ,big time pressure,.guys are racing for there living again.contracts are based on performance.companys are not going to hand out the money the way they were.no more free rides for doing laps and the racers and teams know they have to win to survive.hell whens the last time you saw k dub hit the dirt as much as he has.guys are racing again....
James should just quit, like he did in the outdoor series. Anyone remember Unadilla? I mean if he can't win easily he should just go down to his multi million dollar crib, with all his cars and boats and everything you dont have.
Any of you kids who saw that on TV, read some reply's and start to think that was a legit pass and "part of racing" please be aware that if you ever make that move on someone in a real race they will come to your pit and beat the hell out of you in front of all your friends and family.
I know I would.
Best season ever and Reeds a big part of that. He did the right thing and if you watch the replay he almost stayed up; watch it in slow-mo. If he had, we'd all be calling him BRILLIANT. You go Chad, hammer him till the cows come home, make him nervous about you, cause him to override the tract cuz he's thinking about you, make him miss sleep thinking about you......something good could happen for ya :) and it already has for us the fans.....we've actually got an interesting season.
Ralf.. True... In the real world.. There would be a good fight afterwards.. Not only riders but the whole entourage...
Well put Random!
Lets get ready for Daytona
Maybe next time you can be the first post!
"b" this is for you punk. its not racing when you aim to take someone out. if thats racing then anything goes and there's no dirty moves and if thats so how about me and you go race and i'll just stop you on the track and knock your b*t@h @$$ out. send you cryin back to your mommy.
Short will not take a bad line just to take someone out. CR has never won a title
going head to head with RC or JS so he takes them out.
Everyone is so quick to bash Reed lol, compare their 450 career stats and they're virtually in the same boat. Now let the excuses fly why # 7 hasn't absolutely dominated the past few years and how he's the best rider ever. Lots of talk about fighting regarding on track stuff also, # 7 wouldn't have a fighting chance in hell if he went after Reed. He'd get that gay crooked hat slapped off his head and then get taken to school. It's not the flashy wannabe gangsters that are tough, everyone but them knows that. They just walk around like they're king sh!t.
MXJesus, some of that may be true, very little. But once Stewie hit Team Green, Big James wasnt spending anymore of his money. None. They have even "hired" moto Dads as "drivers" to ensure that the racer gets to the races. Since they cant legally pay a young rider since he isnt pro.
I have to werigh in on the Reed, Stewart and I will begin by saying I am a huge fan of the sport and a racer and a coach. I am not a particular fan of either James or Reed although I respect both of their abilities and efforts.
Both made mistakes and both rode and raced very well, and listen up guys, NIETHER did anything wrong !!
James- great start and i don't believe Reed would have ever caught him if he hadn't made several small mistakes. He did and paid the price, he COULD have decided to brake and try to repass Reed, and he COULD have protected his line Much better, and He could have still pulled second after going down. He chose to do what he did in those split second decisions and paid the price, and guess what guys, we saw an AWESOME race with drama and suprise !!!! I have seen James ride better, make better decisions, but the fact is he rode better than anyone on this forum !!!
Reed, rode VERY good for him, wasn't quite as fast as James in some parts but made fewer mistakes. I don't think James would have caught him if he had gone inside the lapper instead of outside. I do not think his block pass was dirty at all for several reasons. First forget slowmotion guys regular speed is real life, and James could have braked, Reed took his line because James left it open, if you can't see that you don't and shouldn't be racing. I would have and anyone with a strong enough desire to win would have. James would have and we have seen many racers do it for years. Yes Reed would have made the turn easily if James had braked and I feel it would have been a coin toss of who would have won. If Reed had t-boned James that would have been dirty, but James opted to hit Chad when he ALLOWED him to be able to block pass him. He left the door open guys !!!
Now that you have my opionion, Who is ready for DAYTONA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Damn i'm glad no one was hurt and its still on !!!!!!! awesome season so far.
First off Brent your a jackass, you gotta hate on #1 and #41 for giving praise to the lord? It shows just how uneducated that you are.
Second, this is becoming one of the best seasons we have seen in years and if they end up running into eachother and nobody gets hurt then let em play!!
These guys are going for it and they need to do whatever it takes to win!!
I will take the high road and say that Reed and Stewart are both amazing riders and hopefully neither gets hurt if they continue this.
But I am a #2 fan so keep it smart Buddy you got this!!!
All is fair on the last lap. Especially when running 1 and 2.
...I 2nd that bro! WHOA. Bottom line is, we are enjoying the best racing in literal years....even my wife is watching it!
I thot we were going to have to wait on Barcia to do it. I like JS alright, but he has really jsut not been served up the stuff that he has dished out...
Now if Speed would just buy some freakin' better cameras...
http://www.grindtv.com/moto/blog/24706/atlanta+bullet+points/ this looks pretty obvious that it is stewarts fault. This unique angle shows that
For those who want to right off Reed for what he did and want to call him a cry baby etc.. which is just a contradiction to him riding agressively should do us all a favour and start watching lawn bowls... Your either 5 years old or pussies yourselves and really in no position to be bagging out on any of these riders!! Be grateful these two riders are back to their best and are about to put on show for all of us to enjoy!!
Stewart saw reed comming he was coming hard inside plain as day. Stewart had a opportune moment to grab the brake let reed come to stop and race him down the rythme section. They way stewart was ridding he could have passed him in the next corner no problem. Watch that crash in replay slow mo, now watch stewarts back tire. As soon as reed came across in front of him that bike tire lights up! Shoots a roost over the berm. Stewart saw reed hammered the throttle and tried to run him down plain as day! He could have showed a little patience and won that race. Stewarts took himself out. watch that back tire.
Photos don't lie. JS7 is looking down, not ahead. Note the absence of JS7 roost at this point and CR22 is already cutting across his line and IS showing roost but there is quite a bit of room between the two. CR22 should know not to cut inside when JS7 is reading his front fender sticker. Intentional take out? No. Late block pass? Yep. Opinion: Contributory negligence but DAMN GOOD RACING!
https://home.comcast.net/~joshgoodale/atlanta11/cr22js7.jpg
Big James was looking after Jr. at the end of the race.
(He was) 'yelling' only to get JS7 out of the way of Erin Bates' fast approaching microphone and God-only-knows stupid line of question(s)...
Can only imagine 'some' of what she might-have-said, had she been able to shove a microphone in Stewart's face...
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"First James, what was 'Big James' yelling about a moment ago?"
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"Regarding the race, can you tell us what happened out there?"
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Were you happy about your performance here tonight?"
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"Does this mean the rivalry between you & Chad Reed is back "on" ?"
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What happens next week in Daytona if you & #22 are side-by-side again?"
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"Could 'Traction-Control' have helped you avoid hitting Reed?"
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Did this incident happen because Larry Brooks was not here tonight?"
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That was sick, the way you stood on Reed's bike to get going first!
How do you think Chad felt about that?"
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"After repeatedly cutting him of towards the end of the last lap,
what was it like to watch Chad pass you for 3rd at the Checkers?"
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"Will you watch the replay and wish you had done anything differently?"
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"Do you prefer Steak or Sushi?"
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"Red-heads, Blondes or Brunettes...?"
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"Big "headlights or..."
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"I'm dating a Nascar Driver, but he's not as famous as you,
so technically speaking I'm single..., you know...,
Just saying..."
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"Ralph, back to you guys in the booth."
I just couldn't take it anymore.
If you guys want one week for RV to slid out and JS get the win and then the next week for JS to slide out and RV gets the win. Also to have everyone line up for the whole 20 laps then go racing somewhere else.
Every year they start the season with fire works and the fuses get wet and it's another yawner season.
Last year we waited ALL season to see RV "going for it" and we fell off the couch because the racing was weak. Sucked that RV crashed himself out.
Bring it on, the season is young
Pick your guy and cheer them on
I think I woke everyone up with my attempted pass
we have watched Hanny, Bracia, Blose "going for it", well now it's time for the TOP contenders to get out there and show how bad they want to win.
Sorry RD this leaves you out since you ride around waiting for others to make mistakes. From this point on it's going to take some REAL racing to get the job done.
KG.. Ha,ha.. Nice one!
all anybody is saying is reed slamed him reed this reed that it wasnt james fault ..least we not forget all the poor souls james has LANDED ON and wrecked just playing catch-up did we forget he landed on ricky's back at the outdoors race or what about poor nathan ramsey at the finish line jump james messed up......just saying.
and another thing when its a runaway race everybody cries we want racing , when they race tooth and nail somebodys dirty or somebodys cheating, hell this is the best season of racing since rc retired... enjoy the race, watch the battles, shut-up and quit *****ing. its called RACING look it up!
I dont think theres anything wrong with what reed did I mean you had to see that coming, Reed got that fire back and the way things have been goin the last two weeks I honestly think he's the favorite going into daytona. Canards making rookie mistakes, Dungeys just not quite there, Villopotos hot and cold as well as Stewart and I think Stewart is gonna start falling apart, hes never had so many races where he hasnt been the fastest. It's not a smarter, better James stewart its just an uncomfortable and not as confident James Stewart.
Anybody thats says there is nothing wrong with what Reed did or that it was not a dirty move obviously has never raced before & doesn't know what their talking about. If thats not dirty & cheap racing, what is? That is BS, should be black flag for Reed. He can't make a clean pass so he has to resort to his antics, REED ur a joke! Didn't hear RC say too much about it, cause he knows it was BS too!
2 4 8. you need to be put to sleep. u dont know a block pass from a take out come on bro, has reed won anything fair and square, hell his 2 sx championships were only won cuz no one fast was there
I'm guessing RC didn't say much about the 7-22 'moment' for 2 reasons:
1.] During his career, RC's done his share of giving a guy 'no room' in a corner, along with a first-class-ticket-over-the-berm..., all about the 'W'.
2.] If RC was out there he would have done the same thing..., all about the 'W'. That's all that matters in the end and the GOAT knows this.
hey, TJ, why not follow RC4s twits and hear from his own perspective what happen...
It's agressive but it's legit. If I am racing with you, and give that opportunity to take your line away, I would definitely do it. And I guess you would do the same on me if what is at stake is a win in the pinnacle of our sport!
Admit it, it is what our sport is made of...
Reed put an aggressive block pass, but its legit. And besides, how do you call pushing REED to stewies teammate just to stick that pass? It may have less contact, but the mere fact that he's sending someone high, sandwiching him to a lapper, who happen to be his team mate, means he doesn't have any respect at all to anybody in the track. But again its legit, because that is the very nature of our sport.
Put RV2 on that situation, and he would have done the same. If it was Dungey, he probably would have followed stewie, bow down to him and say "James is the Fastest!!!!".
RE: RC... would have done the same thing...,
Meaning: he would have raced hard for the Win, just like Reed & Stewart did.
Anyone worth their sh*t knows you can't micromanage or replicate every moment, much less any moment in a race. Scientific Impossibility!
That block-pass or whatever some are calling it is an iconic moment; a clip for the highlight reel. We'll see it over & over, several SX seasons from now too!
Neither the #7 nor the #22 knew exactly, precisely how it would turn out as they entered the-corner-before-the-yard-sale.
Reed had to be thinking, "There's now he'll ever expect that I'll do this. I'll
rattle his cage with such a crazy move & pull off the pass too, for the Win"!
Likewise Stewart must have thought. "I really don't care..., I'll run over the top of this guy if I have too..., I'm winnin' this Race"!
So many people get consumed by their own post-race emotion about 'this guy' or 'that guy'..., They forget that in the moment, on the track, each guy 'smells' victory close at hand.
If anything, Reed and Stewart are probably laughing their a$$' off from the insane amount of comments (anger, rage, loyalty, etc.) out there in cyberland.
Chill, everybody: It's just good racing.
Wow, good thing that there are so many experts on here to weigh in, with all of you thinking that YOUR opinion's the right one. But here's something: stop sniveling and whining Reed and Stewart fans. Good Lord, the guys that so many of you call crybabies can't even hold a candle to you who are calling them that. I suppose that no one is ever supposed to touch anyone out on the track. If that is how the racing really was, then the whiners on here would be complaining that it's too clean!!! PS: F Larry!!! LOL
Reeds move would've been dirty if it was any lap but the last lap like it was! Last lap anything like that goes. Stewart left the inside wide open and Reed took advantage and gave Stewart the oppurtunity to let off and let him go or take them both down. It was a racing incident and if any of you think Stewart wouldn't have done the same thing if the roles were reversed your just plain stupid. Stewart pinning Reed up against his own teammate was just as agressive as Reeds move. Bottom line its racing.
before you freakin say stewart left the door open,learn a little motocross you pricks! my god yall talk about nonsense! if bubba woulda stopped reed woulda slammed that 6inch wall of concrete! he was feet from the edge of the track and makin a b-line..jeezus..come on! learn a lil common sense! bubba made numerous passes that were dirty,but did not make contact! reed needs to just fkn confess,he knows james didnt touch him..regal happened to be there to make it look like "james was dirty"..grow up please..reeds on the ride of his craeer..hes fixxin to retire and own a team..the end.reed moved in hard and made a dirty pass and if you try takin up for reed you obviously dont know the basics of motocross..im tired of hearin about how bad james is cus he put up a tough fight..without touchin reed..i mean come on..reed slammed him,how was james supposed to brake out of a berm with that much speed.if there werent inside tough blocks reed woulda cut that too!
lt shows that the Reed being White is far superior than the Black man. White Power!
what about Dungey in points? if he had not had that DNF. He might be a close second
Call me old school. I never felt like I beat anyone if I had to knock them off of their bike. I know that is not how a lot of people see motocross but I think it should be. We run into one another often enough by accident. It would really be sad to lose Reed or Stewart or any great rider because of an act of selfishness. It is much more satisfying to beat someone straight up.
I was their .one off the best races all year.the best will prevale.Valapoto new what was going to happen. he just rode smart. were you at the race b-ratt. you don,t seem to know what was going own. GO 22 REED.
stewert needs to stop crying chad steped up and went for it!!!! good for reed.. bubba needs to stop crying