by Chase Stallo
Sign Of The Lap Times: A2
Tuesday, February 8, 2011 | 8:45 AM
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Ask and you shall receive. After numerous comments asking for the average lap times of each rider, we have obliged and now have complete average lap times of each and every rider that made the main event.
Round 5 of Monster Energy Supercross from Anaheim was far and away the least competitive race thus far in the season, as James Stewart took the holeshot and never looked back. Thankfully the Lites class provided some great bar-to-bar action as Josh Hansen battled young guns Eli Tomac and Ken Roczen all the way to the finish. But enough about the race, let’s get to the lap charts brought to you by Motion Pro.
AMA Supercross
| Lap Rank | Finish | Best Lap | In Lap | Avg Lap Time | Rider |
| 1 | 1 |
56.049 |
5 |
57.391 | James Stewart |
| 2 | 2 |
56.313 |
5 |
57.527 | Ryan Villopoto |
| 3 | 3 |
56.691 |
5 |
58.052 | Chad Reed |
| 4 | 5 |
57.356 |
18 |
58.296 | Trey Canard |
| 5 | 4 |
57.643 |
7 |
58.335 | Justin Brayton |
| 6 | 14 |
58.089 |
7 |
1:01.266 | Kyle Chisholm |
| 7 | 20 |
58.144 |
4 |
58.906 | Ryan Dungey |
| 8 | 11 |
58.225 |
4 |
59.805 | Kyle Regal |
| 9 | 7 |
58.229 |
12 |
59.364 | Ivan Tedesco |
| 10 | 8 |
58.316 |
12 |
59.485 | Kevin Windham |
| 11 | 9 |
58.387 |
5 |
59.684 | Brett Metcalfe |
| 12 | 6 |
58.411 |
11 |
59.163 | Andrew Short |
| 13 | 10 |
58.723 |
6 |
59.850 | Davi Millsaps |
| 14 | 12 |
58.878 |
4 |
1:00.402 | Mike Alessi |
| 15 | 13 |
58.944 |
5 |
1:00.872 | Matt Boni |
| 16 | 15 |
59.476 |
9 |
1:01.002 | Nick Wey |
| 17 | 18 |
59.701 |
9 |
1:01.738 | Tye Simmonds |
| 18 | 17 |
59.870 |
9 |
1:01.636 | Chris Blose |
| 19 | 16 |
1:00.187 |
8 |
1:01.576 | Jason Thomas |
| 20 | 19 |
1:00.480 |
5 |
1:02.073 | Fabien Izoird |
James Stewart was hotter than Texas pistol at Anaheim. Using a un-real quad-quad line through the first rhythm section, Stewart was able to jump on the field early and absolutely blitzed the track at A2 en route to his second consecutive victory. Stewart also managed to set the fastest lap of the night with a 56.049 on his fifth lap and put the cherry on top by taking home best Avg. Lap Time by averging 57.391 a lap.
Stewart blitzed the field at A2, and picked up the fastest lap of the night.
Photo: Simon Cudby
It seems as if JGR's Justin Brayton has finally shook off the "King of the Heats" label and put together his finest race of the season thus far, finishing fourth. Brayton also had the fifth fastest lap of the night with a 57.653. If Brayton can carry the momentum of A2 with him the rest of the season we may just have found someone to crash the Big Five party.
Also, check out Trey Canard logging his best on lap 18.
AMA Supercross Lites
| Lap Rank | Finish | Best Lap | In Lap | Avg Lap Time | Rider |
| 1 | 2 |
57.670 | 5 |
59.040 | Eli Tomac |
| 2 | 1 |
57.898 |
4 |
58.953 | Josh Hansen |
| 3 | 3 |
58.024 |
5 |
59.007 | Ken Roczen |
| 4 | 11 |
58.276 |
9 |
1:01.932 | Cole Seely |
| 5 |
4 |
58.317 |
15 |
58.991 | Broc Tickle |
| 6 | 6 |
58.534 |
5 |
1:00.086 | |
| 7 | 5 |
58.604 |
6 |
59.333 | Kyle Cunningham |
| 8 | 7 |
59.772 |
4 |
1:00.545 | Ryan Morais |
| 9 | 13 |
59.753 |
14 |
1:01.238 | Jake Canada |
| 10 | 14 |
59.887 |
12 |
1:01045 | Ben Evans |
| 11 | 8 |
59.941 |
9 |
1:00.962 | Bruce Rutherford |
| 12 | 20 |
1:00.048 |
7 |
1:00.943 | Nick Paluzzi |
| 13 | 10 |
1:00.146 |
5 |
1:01.931 | Jimmy Decotis |
| 14 | 9 |
1:00.258 |
6 |
1:01.335 | Ryan Marmont |
| 15 | 12 |
1:00.541 |
7 |
1:01.950 |
Antonio Balbi |
| 16 | 15 |
1:01.170 |
6 | 1:04.416 | Scott Champion |
| 17 | 16 |
1:01.750 |
4 |
1:05.256 | Casey Hinson |
| 18 | 18 |
1:03.142 |
3 |
1:07.238 | Parker Eckman |
| 19 | 17 |
1:03.349 |
4 |
1:06.245 | Kyle Beaton |
| 20 | 19 |
1:06.035 |
2 |
1:19.103 | Yuta Ikegaya |
GEICO Honda's young rookie Eli Tomac seems to be getting better and better with each passing week. He led for a brief moment in Oakland and then battled veteran Josh Hansen to the wire at Anaheim. Did we mention he also set the fastest lap of the night with a 57.670?
Hansen overcame a broken hand to pick up the win at A2.
Photo: Simon Cudby
What a gutsy effort Hansen put in at A2. Broken hand and all, Hansen was still able to hold off furious charges from Tomac and Ken Roczen to grab the win and extend his points lead. While he was clipped by Tomac for fastest lap, he still managed to secure the second fastest lap of the night with a 57.898
Privateer Jake Canada is quietly putting together a solid season in 2011. Having made the main at every race entered, Canada is slowly finding his SX feet and continues to improve each week. This week he managed to put in the ninth fastest lap of the night with a 59.753. If Canada can continue to improve he may find himself with a top-10 finish when the West series returns in San Diego.
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Very nice to see the average lap times - thanks RacerX
Racer X has delivered what the people wanted!!!! And that was the best race of the year! Both classes were flyin, I thought to my self on lap 10 when i started to see people head towards the exit in the 450 main, this is exactly what use to happen when MC got out front we would leave, beat the traffic and head home, if the #7 wins in houston Mr. Villipoto is in deep SH*!
This is available every week on the AMA SX website amongst tons of other more telling information, like individual lap charts.
http://results.amasupercross.com/
I thought poeple were saying the average lap time would just give us the finishing order ?? Guess they were wrong..
Love seeing the average lap times, its better than just one lap. thanks guys.
I watched all the live timing and I thought James went into the 55's or was that just the heat race,
I LOVE HOW PEOPLE ARE SITTING ON JS7 MONSTER c****, VILLY WASN'T EVEN QUADING AND STILL HAD JUST A TAB SLOWER LAP TIME AND VILLYS NOT EVEN A HUNDRED PERCENT, CANT WAIT TO SEE VILLY PUT IT TO STEWART OUTDOORS WHEN HES A HUNDRED PERCENT.
Funny how most poeple said " I cant wait until Villy puts it to JS in SX. " Now its changed to " CANT WAIT TO SEE VILLY PUT IT TO STEWART OUTDOORS WHEN HES A HUNDRED PERCENT. "
@OHMYGRIND...making excuses like a typical hater...7 dominated, jumped stuff others were admittedly scared too, did it lap after lap...and as far as 2 being 100%, he won 2 races, he is 100%, what makes you think 7 is 100% after recovering from a far more tricky injury than 2? ur just a hater...simple...can't wait until outdoors? keep waiting...
Remember people there is 12 races left! Stewart has hit the ground 4 times in the last 5 races including practices. This thing is way far from over. Dungy's luck has run out! He got really lucky last year when everyone got hurt and it is starting to show. He was 2 seconds a lap slower than Stewart. RV came from 9th 2 weeks ago, so he should of been able to move through the pack!
So math wasn't your strongest subject that's ok. The average lap time is the time it took you to finish the race divided by the number of laps. Of course it is the same order as the finishing order. Sorry, I had to do it, I know you're a JS fan. Don't hate me!! lol
YUP the FASTEST guy won again. See how the average thing works out now bd. Pretty much what I have been saying all year speed DOES mean something.
Some of you people don't have a clue. RV's right wrist doesn't even work it's fused together, and he barly has any feeling back in his foot after surgery. JS7 doesn't have anything close to either of those injuries.
JS7 was the faster man today - hard to deny. RV2 was very fast too, in fact looking at these numbers you can see just how close the two guys were. RV2 just did not have enough for JS7 this week.... But I suspect this will not be the case every week. I don't see a McGrath-like domination. RV2 was still only a few seconds back at the end. McGrath used to be so far ahead he could fall down and still get up with the lead. If JS7 had fallen, RV2 would have gobbled him up. But clearly the ball is in JS7's court now, and RV2 is going to have to take away.... There's a lot of racing to go and so far both these guys are riding like they know it. They both seem unwilling to throw it all away to make up a second or two here and there... smart riding by two smart riders....
ride4ever I was thinking the same thing, The guy with the lowest average HAS TO WIN.... People PLEASE!!!
Pretty funny that it wasnt just the quad quad section JS was pullin him everywhere!!I watched Rv naill the section in practice as well and if you were actually @ the race the #7 wasnt even riding hard Rv had to chances (heat,main) to show he was the better rider No crashes no bad start he just got SMOKED plain and simple! Also don't go buy how many sec he finished ahead @ the end of the race i notice James will not lap his teamate or #11 he kinda just hangs behind them just like oakland. Rv needs to get fired and come out swinging or this is gonna snowball! The tracks are not gonna get easier from here on out so the technical rider has a big advantage whoever it is.
Man was I wrong about one thing this week! I thought the track was going to be good, but it was the worst passing track so far this year IMO. Someone said the sand s-turn would be totally one lined. They were dead on. Lame peice of the track. Lets get back to letting the riders design them they were great tracks.
in my opinion, the average lap times are uselss.. ride4ever,, these tracks have been built like this for years.. I guess I dont understand why you are just figuring that out..
BillC, dont know if you were addressing me of "BD", but I dont know what you are asking. I love seeing the average time of all 20 laps. I like it better than just showing one lap time. Who cares what a guy did on one lap when the race is 20 laps. And BD, I agre Stewie was faster this race, but I dont think RV got "smoked" at all. Just a few races ago RV made up all the way from 12th and run down Stewie who was in the lead with nobody in front holding him back. And RV was a half second faster per lap at that race. So they can be at the same level during the season so far. Stewie is faster on some tracks, and RV faster on others. I personnally love it. I dont want one rider to run away with anything. Its boring. I want this battle to go all season loing. Down to the last race, it would be even better to see another rider stick a wheel in with them too. It would be great. MXMOFO, do you ever have anything to contribute on here, or do you just come on here to name call and start arguements??
Are we sure Brayton's average lap time was slower than Canard's? Or is someone doing a spot of time travelling?, or are the results wrong?
@BD200 there has ben a few races were RV clearly had james covered and thats the way it looked he started on his rear fender and james was a entire straight away ahead B4 lappers got involved you could see him spoting RV in certain sections, This is just as much a mental game as it is physical and Ryan has got some soul searchin to do this week. In practice when he went quad quad quad and went to the top of the leader board i said holy shit he really wasnt pushing on the rest of the track. I predict RD1 to be on fire this weekend hes gonna b the guy pushin the pace this weekend & why not hes got nothin to lose!
bd200,,, I just love how you think you are the mediator on here, and you think your comments are soooo important.. Am I wrong when I say that they have been building the tracks like this for years ??
Well mxmofo, I don't recall saying that I had a revelation about the tracks. I thought there might be two lines develop through there. The length and degree of turn can be misleading by the track maps. Who is designing the tracks these days? Anytime there is a peice of the track that is follow the leader through, it screws any gain that a rider may have had on the guy in front of him. I can't stand sections like that. A rider may be 0.1 sec behind another rider and come to that section, and by the time he has to brake, fall in behind the rider, and accelerate out of it he is 1-2 secs behind again. Its like that screwy off camber turn at Indy in 09 that Dungey and J-Law got in trouble for during qualifying.
ride4ever,, I totally agree.. These SX tracks have been horrible for passing for a long long time.. They put in obstacles that EVERYONE can do most of the time, and it makes for following the leader..
BD200, go easy on him you may be the next HATER!!! You know how some of these JS fans can be. I said some JS fans so please don't attack!!! lol
And who writes such a long blog using my username?? Grow up. And I never said I am a mediator.Its just that you MXMOFO do nothing but name-call and start arguements like a child. Every blog on this site has you writing some smartas# comment to some one who doesnt love Stewie's nutsack. We have a great seaon so far, RV has been faster at a few, and Stewie has been faster at a few. Its great, lets act like we have some class, and not like the clown from L.A. who wrote about us like truck stop people we are precieved to be by the general public.
OOPS!! sorry BD200 i actually wrote that last post! ( BD ) haaa it's early forgive me.
Sorry mxmofo, You're a JS fan I have to give you a hard time. Just havin a little fun nothing personal.
ride4ever,, Ohhh,, I know, no sweat... These tracks suck because they want close racing and no one getting hurt,, so they make them easy for these guys.. There is hardly no seperation like there was back in th 80's.
And I love the idea of letting riders design tracks again. One of the best races I have ever seen was in Indy, in 2008, when Larocco designed the track. Reed and Stewie battled the whole race. Reed went down and Stewie passed him, then Reed caught up to Stewie, then Stewie went down with Reed on his fender. It was great for all 20 laps. Larocco said he built a track that everyone could go fast on, so not one rider could pull away by 15 seconds and make it boring. And the Pastrana track in St.Louis the same season was great too. Thats what we need more of, tired of the cookie-cutter tracks. Same every week, just put the same rythum sections in a different spot. Whoops the same, boring.
I wonder if they ever go back and look at the tracks that had the most exciting races on and try to make similar ones. You know, research! It's a great way to not make the same mistakes over and over again. Dungey has got to be pissed, curious how he comes out this next week. mxmofo, I hate to say it, but your man schooled everybody this week.....
bd200, Exactly what I'm trying to say "cookie cutter". And you're right that was a great track at Indy that year. I was fortunate to be there that year, and it was a great race!!
ride4ever,, hahaha,, thats funny,, but I do like females,,, hahahaha.. They just need to make the whoops 10 times tougher, make the tracks wider, and put in deep, I mean deep sand in some sections..
I love racing, but these "formula" tracks - based on jumps and whoops and everything else following a certain formula - remind me of some kind of Lego set. You can combine the big jumps, little jumps and whoops all kinds of different ways, but I want to see true innovation in stadium tracks, as well as outdoors. I want the insurance guys to be KTFO and left twitching as super cool tracks are designed in stadiums, and I want the geezerly, self-righteous MXA types to let somebody build outdoor tracks that are EXCITING, TECHNICAL and WORTHY of the elite level riders who call themselves motocross pros. So many of these tracks are so predictably FORMULA. Before the days of formula-based tracks, there was amazing innovation and jaw-dropping variety. It lags that we always know exactly what we're going to see when we go to SX and AMA MX races. Formula tracks only let the factories dominate by building identical practice tracks for their riders.
mxmofo that's funny! I didn't mean it that way! Any other rider, I would have said boy. I just didn't want to use that word with James, people might take it the wrong way. I'm definately nice to anybody who's nice to me, always.
jairtime, that's interesting, and you're right. That seems like that would give the factory riders and high end teams an advantage......... once again, the almighty dollar rules. It sucks, but I guess some things never change. They are the only ones who can afford their own tracks! Never really thought about it that way......
bd200 those two tracks were some of the all time best..oddly enough the guy with arguably the most technical skill designed a turd at Atlanta that same year touting that it would allow everybody to go fast. Remember the Wall - or Spine -whatever you like?
not that i am a track building pro or anything but it seems to me that a course that has obsticles that "might" be possible is a track that Stewert will run away with. he DOES things that "might" be possible to everyone else. you think maybe they could build a track that was a little more even. add more corners or vary the soil. the rhythm sections make it so everyone goes one speed. corners would atleasst give them a chance to pass if they are designed right. this was the most boring race i have watched in a long time.
I'm no math student but what if a really fast rider would fall in the first corner and let the winner of the race get about 30 seconds ahead of him. Then this rider rides really fast and gets 2nd place right behind the winner it seems his average lap time would be faster. That is why TC who stared way in the back had a better average that the person who finnished ahead of him. I don't know if this is right but seems to make sense to me.
For all you guys who say the fastest avg. lap time wins or finishes higher that is incorrect. Broc Tickle had the 2nd fastest avg. and finished 4th. Eli Tomac had the 4th. fastest avg. and finished 2nd.
I would think that the average would be all the completed laps added up then divided by the number of laps, the first lap would be excluded because it is an incomplete lap due to the start, which means they trip the beam for the first time when they go past the start finish (already strung out) Does this make sense to anyone? Average time from the gate drop to the checkers is a useless number that we already have a result for. I would think that accurate lap times and an average of that would only show a rider where his best and worst laps were during the race to determine if it was a line or a bobble that cost him
As close as the times were for JS7 and RV2 I have to wonder what the quad-quad time advantage was? I'll bet more than the time differance between the two. This means w/o the quad-quad RV2 would have had faster lap times and we would have had some real bar to bar racing...or even an RV run away?
Rx - thanks for taking my input about lap times and adding the average. Bench racing can now click 4th
Reason is that even though they come out of the first corner in first or tenth - whatever the clock doesn't start until they jump the start finish. therefore tenth place can have a faster average time than seventh place if he has come up from twentyith place and seventh has stayed in seventh the whole race. Get it??
Villy is doin just fine on the pig of a Kawasaki. No amount of makeup will make that pig into a princess...
RD did what 10 laps so his # is not real either. This info really does not help much. JS has a big lead and costed the last lap and killed his AVG time right??
Never mind any of this... Is Mercedes Terrell smokin hot or what?? Why is she not still miss SX?? She is hands down the best looking one there, the new miss SX looks lost next to her. Why did they chang it right before the season started anyway??
She has other modeling commitments (scheduling conflicts) that did not allow for her to be Miss Supercross.
stewart had more in the bag if he needed it anyone wounder how he got that 55 second lap time in his heat? well heres your answer!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHKNaQSRCS0&utm_source=vitalmx.com&utm_medium=referral
@BD, isn't that true? people drive all that way to a supercross, pay 20 dollars to park, sit thru the whole 3+ hour show, then leave during the main, which is really what they came for in the first place! Just to beat the traffic. When i go, I always have to watch it on tv to see all the stuff that happened, since i miss so much, seeing it live. You can only look in one direction at once. But i WAS looking right at the reed stewart tangle up of sx2010 right when it happened. That was cool.
On these average lap times, they don't have the first lap in it. Its the average of laps 2-20. If it was all the laps it would be impossible to average faster then some one who beat you.
Yeah, and didn't stewart finish 5 seconds ahead of villopoto, and yet thier avg lap time is only a tenth of a second, which only adds up to 2 seconds. What gives?
Any mathe-magicions on here?
I cant wait for the outdoors....I hope stewart does it, even if he has to go buy a stocker !
Remind everyone how you ride outdoors, so all this ridiculous talk will end..............
trick, I also feel like when I watch races live I don't see the race untiI I catch the TV run. I was on the hill at Unadilla 2005 about 150 feet away when RC and Bubba went down after the step down. That was an insane race to see to say the least. That crash was disgusting, watching it on youtube does no justice to how fast those two were going and how hard they hit the ground. People on here don't know what hating is until they're standing among 10,000 fans on just the one hillside area ready to jump the fence for our current points leader! (sarcasm, but to say the mob was pissed at #259 is an understatement). The crowd at Unadilla is a different breed, that's a true man's track and a badass place to watch some racing.
I think the tracks are skinnier, because there is more and more junk on the infield. cars, boats, towers ect. In the the old days, every inch was used, with nothing cluttering up the track, not even a podium. They would interview the winner, from on top of the tunnel jump. You could see the whole track from any seat in the house. Last sx I attended, I had to go to the other side, and stand, to watch the main, because my 60$ seats were completely worthless. I don't want to spend that kind of money, then have to watch it on the big screen. Less junk = more track = wider track = more passing = happier fans = less money from sponsors, who want their car, or boat out there = STFU
How about a DEEP mud hole, the hell with the damn sand!
Sorry for the intense rambling, but i recall reading somewhere, that these tracks are intentionally designed to have the jumps and whoops, built the same size, height, distance apart, ect. because it makes it safer for the riders. Also, that is how they build thier own test tracks to practice on. Most of the obstacles ARE cookie cutter designs.
trick, thankfully the east rounds are coming which means WAY better dirt, rougher tracks, and the men being separated from the boys as the tracks break down and get rough like they should. I hope I'm not the only person on here that despises west coast dirt or I'm in for an ass-kicking lol. The tracks breaking down are going to be the only way we see lots of passing lines develop at this point, because other than that it's follow the leader and wait for a mistake.
retardcross can you post the link to that unadilla crash? I want to see it again.
Trick, they do buld the jumps the same ditance.. Thats exactly why you see the top riders jump the triples on the first lap. JS crashed last week because the jump was a little longer than he thought.. I remeber Reed doing exactly the same thing last year or the year before. They also ned to quick smoothing out the track after each race.
smoothing out the track after each race. That is a slap in the face to the word 'motocross'.
I know, but like I said, they want safe,, and close racing..
Here you go trick:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKjLFCKjLsg
I almost feel bad for big James when it shows him watching from the mechanics' area. I wish I could find the post-race interview where the announcer asks Ricky where the Bridgestone marks on his back came from while he was on the podium (that's right, on the podium lol), RC's response was amazing but I can't remember it haha.
great race bubba
im not a fan but you all have to admit he was rock solid (this week) but its far from over !!!
Great to hear props for Jake CANADA .. Under rated! under the radar! Made 6 mains last year with worthog .. Shure would like to see him with some backing . He's a great kid ...
BillC are you actually conceding that I have made a valid point??? Everyone see this? Feb 8, 2011 mark it on your calenders folks. Lowest average doesn't have to win like you have said all along? Credit to James for sacking up and doing what the other top riders WOULDN'T DO. For the record when I came across the 70 ft doubles in the 80"s I retired knowing they weren't getting smaller. Scared the crap out of me to do it at race speed.
Excellent race. and finally a real supercross track with huge jumps. James Stewart is on another level and that's why the tracks are usually dumbed down so there's no way to distinguish the Man from the boys. and oh yeah i'm a Stewart fan!
RRR's post on Kawi's was right on the money for me. When I'm watching the 450 riders settle into turns the Honda & Suzuki guys always look like they're using less effort than the Kawasaki & Yamaha riders. I've seen Rich Winkler post on here and would appreciate his input on what can be done at this juncture in time as to the track problem / solution. I dig the over/under and think that can be incorporated to save/maximize space but, please, open it up for more passing lanes / multiple lines. Thanx RX for the averages, good on you.
thanks for the average lap times...it's much better...
Thanks retardcross. Who says motocross isn't exciting??
At that rate the top 3 would have almost lapped RD, embarrassing..That shows that practice times don't mean squat. And is not because RD dnfd, because the top guys did their best times early in the race when RD was still running.
did u guys take out the first lap cause otherwise wouldn't the average lap be the exact same as how they finished?
the only way the average times would be exactly the same as the finish order is if the time started when the gate dropped and ended whenever that particular rider crossed the line. Average is the elapsed time, divided by the number of laps. If the only variable is the elapsed time, then the averages would work out to the finish order, but because this average only adds the complete lap times, and divides by the number of laps that that rider completed, it skews the results a bit. Its still useful if you want to compare two riders that both went 20 laps.
mrwhirlwind LOL... The only way the lowest does not win is if they don't start the clock when the gate drops other wise the lowest has to win.
I like the added avg lap times, although Tickle only managed a 4th, he was a close 2nd in avg lap time to Hansen. I really like to see stats like this and the ones you get from the box scores and segment times from the Official results page. It really puts the Race togethor when you are watching it on live wire with no commnetary (BS) . As a true fan of the sport it really helps keep my interest and when you do have the oppurtunity to see a Live event it makes the race that much more interesting with a complete understading of just how amazing these athletes really are!
I like to see what other people have for the lap times, it helps to see what my progress is. Thank you RacerX. Cant wait till summer to ride my dirt bike so exsited!!!!!! :)
Shakur, you so biased its sick. The tracks are "dumbed down" for everyone else?? Give it up, that is the most insulting thing I ever heard. It was a stupid rhythum track that was very boring. Lets get a fast and mixed up track. Like St.Louis a few uyears ago, were Stewie wadded it up about 3 times during the race. What would you call that track. I say that is the track that seperates the men from the boys..