by Chase Stallo
Sign Of The Lap Times: Los Angeles
Tuesday, January 25, 2011 | 9:20 AM
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With more pre-season hype surrounding the Big Four than a Justin Bieber concert, the first two rounds of Monster Energy AMA Supercross provided little fireworks in the form of bar-to-bar racing. After Los Angeles the hype can now be put to rest as the inaugural visit to Dodger Stadium provided some of the best racing the sport has seen this decade as four of the big five (Stewart, Dungey, Canard, and Villopoto) banged bars for nearly all twenty laps. With that being said, let's check out the lap charts, brought to you by Motion Pro.
AMA Supercross
| Lap Rank | Finish | Best Lap | In Lap | Rider |
| 1 | 1 |
51.905 | 7 |
Ryan Villopoto |
| 2 | 2 | 51.950 | 15 | James Stewart |
| 3 | 4 |
52.337 | 8 |
Trey Canard |
| 4 | 7 | 52.402 | 13 |
Chad Reed |
| 5 | 3 | 52.444 | 8 | Ryan Dungey |
| 6 | 5 | 53.140 | 9 | Justin Brayton |
| 7 | 8 | 53.484 |
8 |
Brett Metcalfe |
| 8 | 6 |
53.604 | 9 | Kevin Windham |
| 9 | 9 | 53.787 | 16 | Andrew Short |
| 10 | 10 | 54.039 | 13 | Kyle Chisholm |
| 11 | 13 | 54.047 | 8 | Davi Millsaps |
| 12 | 11 | 54.122 | 7 | Nick Wey |
| 13 | 15 | 54.346 | 7 | Tye Simmonds |
| 14 | 16 | 54.353 | 10 | Kyle Regal |
| 15 | 12 | 54.504 | 3 | Austin Stroupe |
| 16 | 20 | 54.511 | 4 | Tommy Hahn |
| 17 | 19 | 54.668 | 13 | Ivan Tedesco |
| 18 | 14 | 55.125 | 8 | Chris Blose |
| 19 | 17 | 55.744 | 13 | Mike Alessi |
| 20 | 18 | 56.571 | 7 | Jason Thomas |
Ryan Villopoto overcame a pedestrian start and blitzed his way through the field en route to his second win of the season, while in the process throwing down the fastest lap time of the night with a 51.905 on his seventh lap of the race.
Villopoto got the fastest lap and the win in LA.
Photo: Simon Cudby
The fifth rider of the now Big Five (Canard is here to stay), Chad Reed began the night in ninetenth after getting tangled with a group of riders in the first turn. But Reed was able to rebound and make a strong push at the end and finished the race seventh, salvaging a shot at the title. Reed salvaged his night by putting his fastest lap of the night (52.402) down on the thirteenth lap, while also recording laps below 53 seconds on five of the last eight laps.
AMA Supercross Lites
| Lap Rank | Finish | Best Lap | In Lap | Rider |
| 1 | 5 |
54.325 |
13 | Josh Hansen |
| 2 | 4 | 54.355 |
5 |
Broc Tickle |
| 3 | 6 |
54.535 | 2 |
Ken Roczen |
| 4 | 10 |
54.552 | 13 | Kyle Cunningham |
| 5 | 3 |
54.602 |
12 | Ryan Morais |
| 6 | 1 |
54.625 | 5 | Cole Seely |
| 7 | 2 | 54.778 | 2 | Eli Tomac |
| 8 | 7 |
55.464 | 9 | Ryan Marmont |
| 9 | 8 | 55.532 | 3 | Jimmy Decotis |
| 10 | 11 | 55.629 | 8 | Martin Davalos |
| 11 | 9 | 55.672 | 13 | Nick Paluzzi |
| 12 | 12 | 55.899 | 6 | Travis Baker |
| 13 | 17 | 56.154 | 3 | Jake Canada |
| 14 | 14 | 56.156 | 2 | Tyla Rattray |
| 15 | 13 | 56.275 | 4 | Antonio Balbi |
| 16 | 19 | 57.225 | 11 | Scott Champion |
| 17 | 15 | 57.317 | 9 | Daniel Blair |
| 18 | 18 | 58.471 | 5 | Casey Hinson |
| 19 | 16 | 58.588 | 9 | Travis Bright |
| 20 | 20 | 1 | Cody Gilmore |
After a failed early attempt to make a pass for the lead, points leader Josh Hansen overcame a last-place start to the night and salvaged valuable championship points with a fifth-place finish. In the process he also took home the fastest lap of the night honors with a 54.325.
Seely didn't set the fastest lap, but he did score his first ever SX win.
Photo: Simon Cudby
Troy Lee Designs/Lucas Oil Honda rider Cole Seely led wire-to-wire in LA for his first-career SX win. But Seely only managed to put down the sixth fastest lap time of the night with a 54.625.
DNA Shred Stix/Yamaha's Kyle Cunningham continues to impress with lap times as he put down the fourth fastest lap time in LA, but the Texas native continues to struggle in the main. Cunningham got tangled with Ken Roczen at both Phoenix and Los Angeles putting himself in to deep of a hole to crawl out of. If Cunningham can continue to put down fast laps and keep it on two wheels, he may be on the podium sooner rather than later.
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I love to see the separation of lap times between the 250s & 450s. It shows that theyre making the tracks tough.
It's awesome that there's less than a 1/2 second difference between 1st and 7th in the lites.
The big 5 in the 450s shows up real good in these laptimes. About a 1/2 second difference between 1st-5th then more than 1/2 a second drop off to 6th best. That's 1/2 second spread out over those 5 then 1/2 second drop over 1 position to 6th.
This could be the best supercross series ever if the cards fall right. The competiton looks like it's definitely there. I don't see that big step from RV & JS to the rest. It looks like those 2 are just barely quicker but being the fastest isn't all there is to winning championships.
Great point mx_579, as Cole Seely proved being the fastest dosen't equate to a win always either! 6th fastest and got the win!!! Great job Cole!!!! p.s. Dungey is starting to pick up the pace!! This is looking like it could be a real dog fight!!
I have to diagree with ya mx-579. 1/2 sec is huge at this level. Thats 10sec at the end of the race and thats what RV did to RD. He started 12th and beat RD by 8sec so its huge to be able to be 1/2sec per lap faster.
this is true to a point BILLC. You seem to act as if these guys ran this speed for the entire race. Which isnt the case. Dungey is not as fast as RV2 or Stewie, but those two didnt run this fast every single lap. Canard put in one faster lap than Dungey, so did Reed, and he still beat them both, thats what counts. Not one lap.
Man BillC it shows you really hate RD. Every time you talk you bash him, whats up man? Let it go. Oh by the way he beat him by 6.779 sec. get your facts right.
Like mx_579 said, this week, there was a real difference between the big and little bikes... 2+ seconds, which is huge.
I keep hearing "the fastest doesn't always win". That may be true, but the slowest never wins! If a riders plan is to be about 5th fastest and still win the championship, they are gonna be disappointed.
Question: how many weeks in a row does RV have to be the fastest befor we start calling him the fastest man on the planet?
Anyone catch Bubbas post race comment: "You can't win them on the ground, but this wont happen again"? I'll take that bet! Now he's making statements that are extremely difficult if not impossible to come through on. Going 14 races without laying it down once is a longshot. The competition has risen to his level and it's getting into that big head of his!
Bubba either had arm pump or tucked the front end on purpose so he'd have an excuse for the loss. No need to be breaking that hard that late into the burm. Should have been on the gas by then.
He just clipped the landing off the jump, it bounced his suspension while he was on the brakes and the front wheel tucked on him. I've seen this a few times this year.
ride4ever, I think he wa saying that bcause he was disappointed he crashed. I think you are taking his comment a little to seriously..
True bd but RD did not run his fastest lap every lap either so all things being equle RD was about 1/2sec a lap slower then RV and the results show that. RV beat him by about 8sec and started behind him so it was really more than 1/2 sec per lap in the end.
Garjan111 either way RV was way behind RD and beat him by 7sec in the end so he was about 1/2sec per lap faster. I don't hate RD at all and was hopeing he would fight to the end last week but it did not happen, RV and JS dropped him. Why is it when someone talks facts they HATE a rider?? Where is my post did I show hate for RD?? I was 1 sec off on the win time and you call that hate? You must have VERY thin skin. What I said is FACT not hate.
ur a genius, you obviously don't get on here much bcuz ur comments are about 1000 posts old...if ur gonna just hate on 7, move to alabama
well well # 7 looks like someone is faster than you !!
mikemikemotorbike,,, remember, its not about the battle, its about the war ...
BillC is doing the math wrong here.. yes RV was able to throw down the fastest lap, but the 6+ second difference between RV and RD at the finish was more a cause of a single bad lap where dunge bobbled. Otherwise the Big Five were all running pretty consistent laps. It looks to me that RV park and bubba are just making more aggresive passes at this point in the season. I think Canard, Dungey, and Reed are progressing each week.
@BillC, no still not fact. It was 1.221 secs lol....
I Really Like RV but everyone is talking Lap Times but no one is talking about once JS went down how he got back up and was chipping them off and was catching RV or maybe I was watching another race.
@redrider24. Keep crying. Just like your boy "king James" "the fastest man on the planet". If he (james) didn't make it a point to refer to himself as the fastest on the planet, I wouldn't feel the need to point out that he is wrong.
From watching the race on TV it looks to me like RV was riding at a comfortable pace for the last couple laps before the white flag while JS was starting to reel him in and closing the gap. Once the white flag came out it looks to me like RV opened the gap back a little bit. I just used the one whoop section to gauge this. On the lap before the white flag JS was coming into the whoops while RV was still in them. On the last lap JS was coming into the whoops and RV was just coming out of them. RV knew where JS was on the track and did what he had to do to win.
hmmmmm, I dont think anyone has won anything yet... How can you say he's not ? The championship isnt over yet..
That was an exciting stop on the calendar. Both races were not your mailed in finishes and provided lots of "what ifs".......That's some good racing. The 250's now know Hanny doesn't have the West locked and the 450's are still just getting sorted. Hope Dodgers stadium will stay on the schedule.
mxmofo if you're saying the fastest man on the planet is the champ, then i guess that is Dungey he stills has the red #1 plate.
ride4ever,,, ahhhhh,, he was last year..
All I'm saying is we haven't had this much close competition in years. Yeah 1/2 second every lap is huge but it sure beats one guy being a second or 2 faster. All it takes is a bobble to make up that difference. This is just one race.
Typical BillC BS. You've said the same stuff so long you believe it to be true. RV didn't start in 12th. There is a thing at the start called a gate to let all the riders start at the same time and it is not exclusive to the entire race. I believe RV rounded the 2nd turn in 7th and was fifth on the second lap. I like RV but your bias towards riders is unbelievable and that is why you get so much flack. Although it is likely your intent so I am wasting my time arguing with either a child or chick.
I think that the top 5 are all that close and if Villopotto and Stewart want to stay off the ground consistently they have to go about Dungeys speed which is why he rides there. baileys point makes sense in that you wont win the championship with a single fast lap but you can lose it with a disastrous one. Tuck the nose and recover has worked so far but break a lever or a finger when you do it and the whole series can be affected.Tortoise and the Hare folks
In defense of the ktm 350 andrew shorts best lap time came on the 16th lap. Might suggest that the ktm doesnt wear a racer down as much as a 450.
I think JS's fastest lap was on 15,, and h's on a 4-fiddy..
baileys U say RD's bobble cost him that much, Well JS had a much bigger "bobble" and he still beat Rd by a few sec's.
GWN,.... Ummmm..... Never mind.
I think JS7 was faster on the kawi. I think it was 08 that Reed was giving him fits on the first year of the Yamaha and he hasn't been head and sholders above everyone else since. So when will RV2 be "the fastest man on the planet"? He needs to beat JS7 a whole lot more than two out of three. Remember JS7 on a KX125? I do. Remember JS went undefeated outdoors in 08? RV has zero big bike titles. Yes I know he keeps getting sick/hurt, but you need to do better than 2 for 3 in one season to knock JS off the top. We will see, maybe he will.
Nice to see someone other than JS7 with fastest lap. Notice tho JS7 put in a fast lap at lap 15 when everyone is tired. I think Stewie has more in the tank but he is trying to be smart. Im not jumping on the RV train yet. I still think this is gonna be a Stewart or Dungeys title. RV is gonna make a mistake pushing it at this level and its gonna cost him points. Thats exactly what JS is trying to avoid bcoz he knows Dungey is very consistent.
dgizzy I agree some what with ya But I am not sure RV is pushing it to hard. He looks very smooth and in control to me. Do you think he looks ragged? Or ya just think he will crash bad??
nymxer186,, I totally agree with you. I think JS looked better on kis Kaws also.
GWN- RV came out of the first turn in 12th. He finished the first lap in 9th.
I agree with nymxer186 & dgizzy in a nut shell IT AIN'T OVER.We are only 3 races in out of 17.
dz958 don't waste your time with GWN. LOL
dgizzy, I dont think RV is pushing too hard at all. He never looks ragged or even winded on the podium. I think you are just hoping, so your guy Stewie is the champ. And RV cam out of the first turn around 12th, and the first lap in 9th place. He was faster at that race period. The one lap time doesnt show it either. fir him to close from 9th place in under 10 laps is fast. And the season just started. This is great, hope this goes on all year long. And I think Dungey ran alot better than BillC. is giving him credit for. He was still with RV2 when Stewie went down. He tried a stupid block on RV and almost lost it. By the next turn is when Stewie dumped it, so he wasnt getting blown out or anything. He isnt as fast as those two, but he isnt getting waxed either. Once he realized he wasnt going to catch them, he backed off the entire last lap, its why it went to almost 8 seconds.
BillC. Must agree with you buddy. I personally thought Poto started further in the pack than 12th. He's like a rabid Dogg out there. I hate all this laptime talk from the keyboard racers. Seely won and his fast lap was 6th fastest. 2 weeks in a row Morais has been on the podium and his speed was no where near the front runners. Roczen and DAvalos were so Dialed. One of those 2 was going to win, until cunningham took out Roczen and davalos. all three went down. BillC, Poto was not sloppy at all. Those whoops were the gnarliest all year. Poto was going thru them so good, than doubling from the far inside. Stewey and most others had to use some berm to get the pop to double that lil thing. Poto was on point. I think poto is better off behind stewart, because he will keep pushing him, just like RC did for years. Having stewey on yer a$$, you gotta be thinking he's gonna park you at any minute. or do something desperate. I wanna see What Dean Wilson and jason anderson got for barcia on the east
You can't believe that these guys aren't pushing....each one of them has a comfort threshold and picks the appropriate time to exceed it and hopefully not wad it up into a ball. If the top 5 were all 1 sec apart on the track they would be hauling, dicing slows them down (and lappers) and passing amongst the top bunch, at this point is either a block pass (again slow) or capitalizing on a mistake. I predict we will see some serious rubbing before the series is out. Before it happens shall we all say rubbing and parking is racing even if it happens to our favorites?
I think it's cool that in the last few years SX has gotten on board with more stats, figures and numbers, but c'mon....some of you guys are way too hung up on these lap times. All that really matters is who crosses the finish line first. It's not a one lap race against the clock. It's 20 from start to finish and the first to cross the line wins, whether there was good or bad luck, takeouts, crashes, mechanical failures, etc. It takes more than one lap to be the winner and lots of good laps to be champ. I almost wish they never started Sign of the Lap Times because of you morons. You know who you are.
Stewarts washed up, its the RV show now. Thought it was common knowledge RV rounded turn one in 12th and still won? Guess not
Stewart is "the fastest man on the planet" and will be forever and it should be obvious. nobody can come close to his speed. and the only time he ever loses is only because he crashed. hes still the best and always will be. have fun fighting over second.
I think dungey is still in a learning curve. Remember how he came on strong at the end of his lites career, and beat rv2 straight up a few times. He is still improving on the 450 and has not reached his potential yet. Last year he had a diluted field, indoors and out, but he still beat all those other guys. Now this year, with a stacked field, he will rise to the challenge, and find more speed to run with the leaders, as he progresses. I expect him to be more of a factor as this thing wears on. first you learn to go smooth, then you learn to go fast.
trick but last year everyone said RD is the new man now you say he is still learning??
Idiots. You're going to need every lap time of every rider of every lap if you want some factual evidence, quit acting like vajayjays.
I dont care what everybody says, I didnt say that. He is still learning.
I don't think this "fastest lap time" really tells the whole story. What I would like to see is the riders average lap times with their quickest and slowest laps thrown out. That would be very telling of who's keeping up the pace consistantly. I'm really starting to hate these 15 minute battles too. They need to up it five more laps so it isn't such a sprint. I think the start is playing TOO much of role right now.
more important than just fastest lap time are average lap times, total time on track and time behind leader. Stop giving us just fastest lap times its lame.... a fast lap can be gobbled up in one mistake the next lap, you want the sport to grow stop acting like we're children by giving us useless info...
Over at vitalmx I posted Sign of the lap times with the average lap included as well.
The lap times where as fast as the heat races on CBS, they showed 1 minute 6 seconds from heat one,,,, 58 seconds from heat two and 36 seconds for the last chance.. Cmon don't we all have cable or satelite, so why are they showing it on cbs... It sucks.
If we keep complaining on this issue,maybe they'll listen to us.......Oh and also get rid of Ralph and Erin... Thay suck too
I love people who say someone was "12th" in the first turn. I DARE you to watch a start of 20 riders and, in anything approaching real time, pinpoint places, say, 8-14. I counted the first time the cameras showed down the order on the first lap and RV was 7th. He apparently slipped back to finish the lap 9th. And as for Dungey losing 1/2 a second per lap, several of the overall seconds of separation occurred within the last couple of laps, which is common unless riders are in a wheel to wheel battle. People are starting to catch on to those who post negative post after negative post about certain riders. Three races and they've got the world figured out. I'm in awe (insert sarcasm here). I’ve got to stop reading these things; they’re diminishing my enjoyment of a, so far, very good season.
OK Please listen to Jeff and Ralph at the end of the race as they talk about how JS was running RV down in the last lap.*Screw Lap Times.*
BD200 and Bill I dont think that Villo is riding smooth. I think Dungey and JS7 could run that pace but you can only push so much. JS7 has learned thru the yrs where the limit is. 2011 title is not going to be decided by the fastest guy but rather the most consistent. As far as hoping RV make the mistake. I dont wish anyone bad just saying how I see it. theres a reason why Dungey and JS are riding conservative this yr. that being said I think its still gonna be Dungey or JS7 for the title but hey I could be wrong if indeed Rv is comfortable. just remember RV threw away 2010 by pushing the limits soo hard. He could have settled for 2nd that night and chances are he would have the title but instead gave it away. i just hope he learned something from it.
Stewie is unreal when it comes to cutting through the pack. As many of you have said he looked good on the Kawi, I think the biggest thing is his corner speed. That used to be his thing especially on the old 125 days. I feel like he is lazy in the corners. If he were to ride behind Poto I think he would learn a lot and then make the pass and check out. Poto has the corners down this year. He turns tighter and exits at the same time as everyone just look at when he pulled up next to JS7. Stewart is looking awesome in the whoops for the most part. He had some bad lines IMO which usually isn't the case. #7 and #2 for the title, looks like everyone who was on the RD wagon decided to jump off when it the others joined the competition.
RV looks good and very fast, however the big crash is coming. Its just a matter of time. He will push it to far and crash hard again. RD would of never won the chanpionship if BS and RV were there all rounds last year.. RD was passed twice by BS in LA, he thinks he belongs and can challenge Yeah Right!. BS definitely is riding different and smarter despite his boobles. And besides even though he has made mistakes he has been on the podium all rounds. BS is still in a leaugue of his own, RV also has shown that he belongs as far as the others Oh Well!!!
dgizzy where has RV not been incontrol??
dgizzy, I also dont think Stewie is riding conservative either. I think RV2 is just as fast as him, even though you wont admit it. Do you actually belive that nobody will ever be as fast as another rider?? Just like Reed picked it up and took RC for 6 straight races, and Stewie ran with RC for a few outdoor races, before he wadded himself up, but he still ran with him. Soeone always comes along and is as fast as the top guys. And now its another red-head. RV2 has proven he is as fast or faster than your boy Stewie, whether you like it or not,
dgizzy, how many times has Stewie thrown it away?? RV did it once, over a very badly built jump if you remember right. Stewie has done it a ton of times, and your singing his praises.. Biased are you, maybe a little??
Yeah that jump at St. Louis was to blame for that one. They were saying there was concrete exposed on it and Chad Reed said it was gonna be dangerous before the main. Ivan Tedesco, i believe, also crashed on it in the main before RV.
It's funny everyone talks how JS7 is the," fastest man on the planet," and how he rode on his 125, and every one thinks RV2 has only riden a motocycle for only 3 years. Does anyone remember that RV2 has won championships also, and not to mention he smoked the best ridres in the world on a 250 even Carmichael. I sad to my friends at the begining of the season that the one to win the championship will be the one on the podium every weekend and there have only been two.
Hey acejas. Go to amasupercross site and you can see that for yourself.
Average lap times lap 2-20
Villipoto 52.927
Stewart 53.315
Reed 53.487
Dungey 53.500
Canard 53.528
YUP like I said the other day, 1/2sec a lap off the pace RD is. Still don't believe me anyone??
Hell JS fell and STILL did better then RD.. WOW