by Chase Stallo
Sign Of The Lap Times: Phoenix
Tuesday, January 18, 2011 | 10:30 AM
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Well, in Phoenix, we almost got what everyone has been waiting for since the pre-season hype of the Big Four began. James Stewart got out to an early lead, but was being harassed early by a stubborn Ryan Villopoto. Villopoto then took a digger leaving James with an easy victory. Hopefully as the season unfolds the racing will become a little tighter. Until then, at least we can break down the lap times, brought to you by Motion Pro.
AMA Supercross
| Lap Rank | Finish | Best Lap | In Lap | Rider |
| 1 | 2 |
48.708 | 3 |
Ryan Villopoto |
| 2 | 1 | 48.886 | 5 | James Stewart |
| 3 | 3 |
49.455 | 11 |
Trey Canard |
| 4 | 4 | 49.647 | 16 |
Chad Reed |
| 5 | 5 | 49.652 | 15 | Ryan Dungey |
| 6 | 19 | 50.233 | 4 | Kevin Windham |
| 7 | 6 | 50.266 |
4 |
Justin Brayton |
| 8 | 7 |
50.332 | 5 | Andrew Short |
| 9 | 11 | 50.586 | 4 | Davi Millsaps |
| 10 | 8 | 50.662 | 6 | Brett Metcalfe |
| 11 | 14 | 50.603 | 5 | Ivan Tedesco |
| 12 | 16 | 50.776 | 6 | Tommy Hahn |
| 13 | 10 | 51.126 | 5 | Kyle Regal |
| 14 | 9 | 51.222 | 7 | Kyle Chisholm |
| 15 | 12 | 51.897 | 6 | Nick Wey |
| 16 | 13 | 52.414 | 8 | Weston Peick |
| 17 | 15 | 52.704 | 5 | Chris Blose |
| 18 | 18 | 53.477 | 5 | Jeff Alessi |
| 19 | 17 | 53.799 | 5 | Ryan Clark |
| 20 | 20 | DNS | DNS | Austin Stroupe |
Last week Ryan Villopoto grabbed the win while Stewart took home fastest lap honors. Roles were reversed at Phoenix as Stewart grabbed his first win in over a year, while Villopoto took the fast lap crown with a best lap of 48.708, edging out Stewart’s (48.886) by a very small margin.
Villopoto got the fastest lap, but Stewart got the win.
Photo: Simon Cudby
Last week only five riders managed to post a fast lap under the one-minute mark. Phoenix was a entirely different story as every rider that made the main event posted a fast lap under the one-minute mark.
AMA Supercross Lites
| Lap Rank | Finish | Best Lap | In Lap | Rider |
| 1 | 2 |
50.470 |
5 | Broc Tickle |
| 2 | 5 | 50.543 |
9 |
Eli Tomac |
| 3 | 1 |
50.563 | 4 |
Josh Hansen |
| 4 | 4 |
51.023 | 4 | Cole Seely |
| 5 | 9 |
51.140 |
5 | Martin Davalos |
| 6 | 19 |
51.305 | 2 | Ken Roczen |
| 7 | 10 | 51.501 | 4 | Kyle Cunningham |
| 8 | 3 |
51.509 | 2 | Ryan Morais |
| 9 | 7 | 51.715 | 5 | Jimmy Decotis |
| 10 | 6 | 51.863 | 5 | Tyla Rattray |
| 11 | 15 | 52.484 | 4 | Nick Paluzzi |
| 12 | 11 | 52.528 | 3 | Jake Canada |
| 13 | 8 | 52.581 | 6 | Travis Baker |
| 14 | 14 | 52.916 | 14 | Antonio Balbi |
| 15 | 13 | 53.103 | 14 | Bruce Rutherford |
| 16 | 12 | 53.405 | 4 | Ben Evans |
| 17 | 16 | 53.427 | 4 | Casey Hinson |
| 18 | 17 | 53.947 | 10 | Ryan Marmont |
| 19 | 18 | 55.683 | 14 | Scott Champion |
| 20 | 20 | 1 | Christian Craig |
In Lites, once again Broc Tickle came under pressure from teammate Josh Hansen and failed to hold onto an early lead. But not all was lost on the PC rider, as he took home fastest lap honors (50.470) for the second week in a row.
Tomac set the second fastest lap of the night with a 50.543.
Photo: Simon Cudby
Hansen took home his second victory in as many races, while posting the third best lap time, 50.563, trailing only teammate Tickle and GEICO Honda’s Eli Tomac.
Speaking of Tomac, the rookie sure did make up for a lackluster showing at A1. Making a hard charge through the pack Tomac managed to pick up the second fastest lap of the night with a 50.543. If Tomac can begin to put down faster laps earlier in the race (his fast lap at Phoenix came on the ninth lap) he may find himself on the podium sooner rather than later.
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Like I said RV and JS where a step ahead of the rest.
6th thru 12th is tight!!
1-2 is 1 group, 3-5 is 2nd group, 6-12 is a group, 13-20 the rest.
They were but only 1 didn't have traction control!!!
Interesting how a start effects the results. Twice now the fastest guy was not the one who won.
I think 3-5 still have more speed to show but just don't want to risk it yet.
Im so sick of hearing about tracton control. Do you people really think that they are going to put something on James bike that is illegal? The guy is riding fast and smarter then ever. Give him credit where credit is due. And if they have something on there bike that works, and no one else has it. Then good for them on coming up with it!
The whole traction control thing is getting old. I guess we truly are a guilty until proven innocent society. Look, I don't care for Stewart but I am pretty sure the guy's squad is not going to do something that blatantly illegal, geesh. Anyhoo, I'm impressed that RV actually got the fastest lap time. Yes, he didn't win and yes, he did fall. But I can't remember the last time a rider in SX posted a better lap than Bubba. Very impressive RV. Mr. Dungey needs to get himself a good start at L.A. or the pressure will start to mount.
Check out what laps RD and CR did it in, nice battle going on. It's hard to get a fast lap when you get a bad start but you all knew that!
The top 5 are still very much in contention. RD,CR and Trey are not done yet. If Stewie and RV mess up one of this guys will grab the win soon. Its only gonna get tighter as Canard gets comfortable with the bike. We are gonna see some action and big changes next few races
I like checking out the sign of the lap times, what would be even cooler is to see the total race times for each rider.
The whole "traction control" deal gives the pople who dont like JS, and said he was washed up, a reason to make excuses why we won. Simple as that..
Here's the problem people are having with Stewie and the questionable device. He looked guilty as sin when asked about it. He never said "No its only a recording device" He said "Obviously No it didnt help - the track was so muddy and dry.....ya'll must've been looking at a piece of dirt on there." So without trying to, he indirectly acknowledged it was some sort of helping device. So he just won a supercross race and instead of being real happy, now he looks like a kid caught with his hand in the candy jar. None of us know what it was, we're just going by his reply that it was in fact to help in some way. Nice to see someone actually able to keep up with Stewie for once.
acejas, that's exactly what i'm thinking. I bet a couple guys will turn it up a notch at LA! Come on RD it's time to show them that you are no fluke. Eventhough most of us already know you're not!
garjan111JS had the fastest at A1 and he started outside the top 10 and finished 3rd. When you are fast you are fast. RV and JS are on it, the rest need to pick it up some and to find 1 sec or more is a LOT to find on a SX track.
Bill, let's not overdo the fastest lap stuff. They do 20 of them. Guys like RD who are in impeccably fit can run every lap fast. Like outdoors, Dungey just wore them out.
@Coley1x http://results.amasupercross.com/data/2011/02/sxm1ind.pdf
traction control? some of you are getting dumber, take this dollar here and go buy yourselves a clue
I really hope they post an article about the so called traction control device so people will shut up about it. I hate Stewart as much as the next guy but it's time to move on kids!
I guess I will never figure how some can "hate" a person they never met. dz958,, have you ever met JS ?? I have, My Bro and I talked to him for 10 minutes at Red Bud in '03. "Hate" is a pretty strong word...
The top 5 were separated by LESS than 1 second, the difference being tc, cr and rd posted theirs @ lap 15 where js and rv posted theirs before lap 5. Since they've been putting the finish at the end of the race and the championship at the end of the season , Don't go crowning anyone just yet
I have met and talked to him on multiple occasions. I was on a local shops race team and they would have the pro autograph signings at our shop and the guys on the team would help out.
WOW,, now I can see why you hate him !!!!
It was fun to do, we'd get like a half hour to hangout with the riders before they started the signing. They had races playing from that season and it was really cool BSing with the riders about the tracks and what they were doing on the track.
Twice now we've heard about the track being an issue with the riders. Two times in Rnd # 2 we saw the fastest (clock) riders go down (plus KW, Mr. smooth himself). Now that the weather is warming up in So. Cal, we will see some better track conditions, hopefully. Oh, and don't even think I forgot about traction control.......or Pro Circuit vs Kawasaki, the two biggest stories of the year (to date) demand answers.
ride4ever... Are you saying you don't think RV and JS are in shape?? They ran there 20 laps faster than RD, JS beat RD buy 20 sec or more I believe and he lapped into the to 10 I think also. Seems pretty strong to me.
a fast single lap wins a race NOT. It is amazing that all these pros are as close as they are in a sport raced on dirt and sand.
One fast lap can win a Race if you are equle after that, Saw MC do it many times, Holeshot lay down a few fast laps then cruzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Besides his 20 laps where on avarge FASTER thats why he won.
Yea, I know I left myself open on that one. Yes, RV and JS are in great shape but maybe not as fit as RD. And SX is more like a sprint, whereas MX requires more endurance. I guess what I meant to say was; one fast lap doesn't win the race obviously. I haven't checked all the lap times, but i'm pretty sure there were laps that TC, RD or CR were probably faster than the front two. Anyhow #'s can be misleading. Once somebody gets out front and gets his flow going they can focus without many distractions. Which usually translates to faster laps. Wait till RD holeshots then we talk some more.... Have a good one!
Ya there is no Cruzzzzzzzing without the holeshot. That was the point last week and this week. The fastest lap time didn't win. Last weekend Dungey did a 20 lap average better than Stewart... those are called the results. Officially the fastest lap is not even as good as winning practice because at least you get a gate pick out of practice. It takes a good start and 20 fast laps to win. Having said that the numbers are fun to see. Boy would there be a meltdown here if they posted 20 lap times per rider! Calculators would be blazing.
I'm going by memory-but I think RD was ahead of RV into the first real corner, after the short rhythm section. but then lost about 6 spots through the next section. Hopefully he just didn't feel comfortable on the Phoenix dirt or something. I'm guessing that RD will step it up from here on out. so far the- with a good start Dungey will do good mindset is a little off.
Lets not forget the fasted guy (RV2), who started around 6th place fell while catching the leader......so sure fastest doesnt always equal 1st place.....but he sure seperated himself from the pack...
I have seen on a few occasions where riders being interviewed by Bates seem frustrated with dumb questions.....They either want to slap her in the face or just tell her to shut up....That is what James was thinking as he rolled his eyes....his face was saying " shut up you idiot.....it was a sensor, no traction control...stay out of the tanning booth for pete sake, your almost darker than me!"...
ride4ever..........never mind BillC, he likes to argue. He even argues with himself. True story.
I guess this means RV2 was the fastest man on the track and the only reason he lost was because he crashed?? He didnt lose straight up. But guess what?? He only got points for 2nd. One fastest lap means nothing.
"I have seen on a few occasions where riders being interviewed by Bates seem frustrated with dumb questions....." I remember A1 2009 when chad and james got together entering the whoops, james hit the ground and almost knocked himself out! James got pissed off of how the way he was interviewed by Erin Bates after the incident and answered her sarcastically!!!
You really don't get the hole point do ya BD200??
I will try to explan my point again, ( not fighting..really) OK I see it like this. If RV and JS can do even one lap that fast ( I bet they had more than 1 in the 48's) It does mean a lot. If JS or RV was in 5th with RD do you think they would stay there like RD did or could they uncrok a few "fast" laps and move up to 2nd or 3rd?? See speed means a LOT, RD did not have it and got 5th. RV had it and Moved up to 2nd just like JS had it at A1 and passed 12 guys for 3rd. Does that make any sence as far as what I am trying to say?
garjan111 maybe try reading my post's with out being so sensative. Don't think I am always fighting. I am NOT just trying to get my point across when I fell someone does not get what I am trying to say. It does not mean I think I am always right just nice to see someone once in a wile say "I see your point" Weather they agree or not.
San Manuel would cheat. Does no one remember the infamous Chisolm block pass on Reed when he was being lapped a few years ago? Larry Brooks would do anything to win.
Cummon BillC. When MC was winning he didn't even hardly have to test or train to beat everyone by a minute. MC was 2 steps ahead. He found the bike he liked (1993 CR-250) and never changed his setup til 97). His bike worked, He smoked everybody week in week out. He was known for partying, hanging out at lake havasu, filming for all the videos. He was just that much better. You cant tell me that JS is that much better than anyone else out there. You think Dungey's done after 2 rounds? nice prediction. Imigine What Larry brooks would say if Villopoto's bike had a computer sensor/traction control BS on his wheel. Larry would shite himself!!! Prolly be pushing bikes over in the pits again. BillC, You're becoming the new YzSean dude, but your on steweys nuts
pinned927... Are you for real?? Where did I say RD is done?? I said if he does not pick it up soon he will be. 2 rounds in 9 points down would mean 27 points down after round 6 if he does not get going better. Thats all I said. As for me being on JS's nuts I have said and will say AGAIN I am NOT a huge JS fan but The dude is FAST.... RV is my Fav rider right now. So TRY to remember that be fore you spout off next time. Are you a RD nut hugger??
BILLC, I didnt say one fast lap didnt help a win. I have issues when a guy runs one lap faster than everyone else and gets 3rd or 4th or whatever. And everyone says he was the fastest guy on the track. That is WRONG. Why dont they show a time that each rider got for all 20 laps. then the guy with the fastest time would be the fastest guy on the track.
BD200 That easy, JS won by about 8 sec, 3rd was about 15sec back and so on. So 2nd was just under 1/2 a sec a lap slower for the 20 laps.
I think what people mean in your example (A1 right) JS was the fastest all day and had the fastest time in the race witch shows he is the fastest guy around the track, That does not mean he will win but know one there can go as "Fast" as he can. So for RAW speed JS was the fastest guy at A1, From what I read he was the fastest gut for 19 of the 20 laps. I think when most people talk about how fast someone is there talking about speed not a 20 lap avrage witch a lapper can kill for anyone of them. If you put each guy out there alone for 20 laps who would you put your money on?? Mine would be on JS everytime thats what fast means.
MX 91 ...never thought of it but your right. Brooks totally instigated the whole Alessi and Tedesco incident back in the day aslo. it was pretty clear that the whole team was drama in the behind the scenes ( great outdoors vid ). Brooks is a wack job.....i honestly think JS just rides and doesnt have anything to do with it though.
Any rider coming through the pack takes 2 steps forward and 1 step back... it is the nature of the beast. A holeshot with 20 consistent laps at a top 5 speed will be tough to beat this season. And that is a beautiful thing for us fans. Anyone want to bet that one rider will win the rest of the races? the other cool point is that catching a guy is one thing getting past is another, it means a set up or a mistake or banzai through the second best line.