Race Report: Phoenix
Sunday, January 16, 2011 | 8:10 AM
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Riders
- Josh Hansen
- Jimmy Decotis
- Kevin Windham
- Chad Reed
- Andrew Short
- Ben Evans
- Travis Baker
- Ryan Dungey
- Broc Tickle
- Tyla Rattray
- Kyle Regal
- Ryan Morais
- Eli Tomac
- James Stewart
- Ivan Tedesco
- Brett Metcalfe
- Trey Canard
- Martin Davalos
- Cole Seely
- Nick Paluzzi
- Ryan Villopoto
- Justin Brayton
- Kyle Cunningham
- Kyle Chisholm
At last weekend’s round of Monster Energy Supercross, James Stewart laid down the fast laps, but ended up third in the main event after a bad start. Ryan Villopoto won the race, but may not have been the fastest rider in the building that night.
Just take that story and reverse it for round two of the series in Phoenix. This time Villopoto had the speed, but not the win, while Stewart came out on top on a rare night when he may not have been the fastest man on the track—or the planet.
James Stewart grabbed his first SX win in 53 weeks.
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“I wasn’t even trying to be the fastest tonight,” said Stewart. “I knew on this track, it would just come down to who fell.”
Stewart did look to be the fastest earlier in the day with blistering practice times—faster than anyone in both sessions. But when Stewart jumped out to a heat race lead and then washed his front end out in a corner and crashed, he realized the key to success on this slick track was riding conservatively and keeping the bike upright. Perhaps this year's version of Stewart, with last year's injury ruined campaign in mind, knows more about patience than ever before.
Villopoto appeared faster than Stewart in the main event, but a crash ended his bid for the win.
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And getting a good start helps, which Stewart did by grabbing the holeshot. Villopoto started about fourth and sliced to the front immediately. He was soon around Kevin Windham and into second, and then quickly made up ground and closed the gap on Stewart--yes, closed the gap on Stewart. Just four laps into the race, the duo had distanced themselves from the pack, and a headsup one-on-one race for the win began to materialize.
With the speed he had, it looked like Villopoto was ready to just sit back and wait for an opening to make a pass, a rare moment for someone to shadow Stewart and not lose ground. But Villopoto says he could not find spots to make up ground, and once he got to Stewarts rear wheel, he knew it would just be a battle to see who would make a mistake. The race stabilized once the two were close to each other, no more than few bikelenths separating them at any time. Then it all changed when Villopoto ended up making that mistake: he lost the front in a flat turn near the mechanic’s area and went down—just like Stewart did in the heat race.
Trey Canard is the real deal--he took third, and pulled away from a Chad Reed and Ryan Dungey battle.
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This time Stewart wasn’t necessarily the fastest, but he got the win. He took to the race with patience, let his competitor make the mistake, and calmly took the win as if it were just another race. But it wasn’t just another night—Stewart had not won a race in over a year. His 2010 season essentially ended with a massive crash in this very stadium, and the victory on this night marked the end of a long, long journey all the way back to the top.
But he didn’t treat it that way. Instead of celebrating hard, Stewart is already in championship mode, already taking it one race at a time, already thinking about points and consistency instead of blowing away the naysayers with his speed.
Reed and Dungey battled with Justin Brayton, and then took their fourth-place scrap down to the wire. Reed held tough and got the spot.
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His most formidable challenge could come from Villopoto, who picked his KX450F back up and finished second. “I was happier with my riding tonight than last week, and I got good points so I can’t complain,” said Villopoto. “It wasn’t like I was just sitting there waiting to set him up. We couldn’t do much different on the track, so I really didn’t know how I could pass him. I figured it could come down to one of us going down, and it was me.”
They were well in front of the rest of the field, led by Trey Canard who took third. Canard’s run looked impressive, as he worked his way through a battle with Windham, Ryan Dungey and Chad Reed to get the spot. But at the end of the night, the rookie was actually bummed about how many mistakes he made.
“I’m happy with the finishing position,” said American Honda Racing’s Canard. “It might have been different if some other riders were closer.”
Fourth went to Reed, who struggled in practice but came alive at night, grabbing a heat race win when Stewart crashed out of the lead in that race. In the main, he rode well and won a battle with Dungey and Justin Brayton to take fourth, holding back Dungey’s charge all the way to the end.
The problem is, Reed and Dungey expect to be in the mix with Villopoto and Stewart, and they were well off of that pace on this night. And Canard finished ahead, too.
So now the series rolls on to its debut in Los Angeles’ Dodger Stadium with the potential of a two man breakaway. But which one is fastest is completely unknown at this point.
Stewart was elated when he crossed the finish, but soon settled into championship mode, seeing this win as just a small step in a 17-race series.
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In the Lites class, Monster Energy Pro Circuit Kawasaki’s Josh Hansen won the race for the second-straight week. His teammate Broc Tickle led some laps, again, but crashed in a routine corner and handed the lead over t0 Hansen. He recovered for second, with Ryan Morias digging deep for third on his Rockstar Suzuki. Morias just edged Lucas Oil Troy Lee Honda’s Cole Seely and GEICO Honda’s Eli Tomac.
Hansen (100) had to battle through a close pack early--including Morias (71), and Roczen (194). He settled down and let the race come to him--and won.
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Red Bull KTM’s Ken Roczen was fast in practice again, although Hansen edged him for the top qualifying spot. Roczen crashed hard after casing a triple in his heat race, then won the LCQ and battled with the lead pack for a few laps in the main. But he crashed hard in the sand section and unfortunately took out DNA/Star Racing Yamaha’s Kyle Cunningham with him. Roczen never got going again, while Cunningham fought hard to maintain a tenth place finish.
Big four? Canard has already proven he's a top three player.
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Hansen has two-straight wins, but Tickle has led laps in both races and seems ready to challege for the crown.
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Look for more later today with Racer X News and Notes, full results in Monday Wake Up Call, as well as plenty of info all week long.
Supercross Class Results: Phoenix
1. James Stewart, Haines City, Fla., Yamaha
2. Ryan Villopoto, Poulsbo, Wash., Kawasaki
3. Trey Canard, Shawnee, Okla., Honda
4. Chad Reed, Tampa, Fla., Honda
5. Ryan Dungey, Belle Plaine, Minn., Suzuki
6. Justin Brayton, Cornelius, N.C, Yamaha
7. Andrew Short, Smithville, Texas, KTM
8. Brett Metcalfe, Lake Elsinore, Calif., Suzuki
9. Kyle Chisholm, Valrico, Fla., Yamaha
10. Kyle Regal, Murrieta, Calif., Yamaha
Supercross Class Season Standings
1. Ryan Villopoto, Poulsbo, Wash., Kawasaki – 47
2. James Stewart, Haines City, Fla., Yamaha – 45
3. Trey Canard, Shawnee, Okla., Honda – 38
4. Ryan Dungey, Belle Plaine, Minn., Suzuki – 38
5. Chad Reed, Tampa, Fla., Honda – 34
6. Brett Metcalfe, Lake Elsinore, Calif., Suzuki – 26
7. Andrew Short, Smithville, Texas, KTM – 25
8. Kyle Chisholm, Valrico, Fla., Yamaha – 22
9. Ivan Tedesco, Murrieta, Calif., Kawasaki – 21
10. Justin Brayton, Cornelius, N.C, Yamaha – 20
Supercross Lites Class Western Regional Results: Phoenix
1. Josh Hansen, Elbert, Colo., Kawasaki
2. Broc Tickle, Holly, Mich., Kawasaki
3. Ryan Morais, Murrieta, Calif., Suzuki
4. Cole Seely, Corona, Calif., Honda
5. Eli Tomac, Cortez, Colo., Honda
6. Tyla Rattray, Wildomar, Calif., Kawasaki
7. Jimmy Decotis, Peabody, Mass., Honda
8. Travis Baker, Temecula, Calif., Honda
9. Martin Davalos, Cairo, Ga., Suzuki
10. Kyle Cunningham, Aledo, Texas, Yamaha
Supercross Lites Class Western Regional Season Standings
1. Josh Hansen, Elbert, Colo., Kawasaki – 50
2. Broc Tickle, Holly, Mich., Kawasaki – 44
3. Ryan Morais, Murrieta, Calif., Suzuki – 35
4. Tyla Rattray, Wildomar, Calif., Kawasaki – 35
5. Cole Seely, Corona, Calif., Honda – 34
6. Martin Davalos, Cairo, Ga., Suzuki – 30
7. Eli Tomac, Cortez, Colo., Honda – 27
8. Travis Baker, Temecula, Calif., Honda – 26
9. Kyle Cunningham, Aledo, Texas, Yamaha – 19
10. Ben Evans, Garden City, Idaho, Kawasaki – 18
11. Nick Paluzzi, Riverside, Calif., Yamaha – 18
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Believe the Hype....800 doesn't make the main
Short barely cracks top 10. So much for KTM dominating the US.
what happened to Dungey? it looked like he was afraid of falling. did you see how early he let off on the start. and it looked like he just let everyone by down the 2nd rythm section. I hope he can get up there with the fast guys soon.
The KTM's LMAO...I figured as much. I'm a big doubter. I figureed the KTM would show well with the more technical the course but these pros are so well mactched in skill any edge they have is huge. And did you see the 194??? I thought he was gonna kill himself...looking good KTM, race ready for sure.
that track did look hard to pass on and slippery. I bet they'll be talking about that 2nd place finish in the heat for a long time!
can anyone see the thor ad to the right? it looks like weimer has an orange g string( half pulled down) on the outside of his pants. what is that?
Does anybody know why Villapoto isn't running a red background? I thought the leader in points each week runs a red background, or is that just in Outdoor MX. This is the kind of stuff that needs to be agreed upon between the two series, confusing to the fans for sure.
the thor panty pant?
Boring!!! Typical supercross....let's just follow each other around. This is suppose to be the most stacked field in years. I know it's only the second race but I'm already bored. And watching it live sucks. Is there some contest to see how many commercials can be shown during the race? So far I give supercross a "D!"
If you removed the top three riders from the points standings...Dungey would be leading. I don't really care either, just something I noticed.
Prime, your right. Even Villopoto said he would have to wait for Stewart to crash to make any pass, blaming the track. There's more passing in F-1 than supercross.
Dungey WHO....Track had no flow at all,start was critical,R.V....was hauling the mail, reeling in stewart,how about 2 fourteen lap motos for the overall....more exciting?Go stewart !
Ramey is right, short woulda won if he was on a ...say... Honda. I r dumb.
As far as the KTM 350, That's the bike that 99% of the riders in the world need, and I'm sure it's a Blast to ride. Personally as a certified "Orange Bleeder" I would have liked to see Short on the 450 and some young gun who's used to a 250 ride the 350. Isn't there an Unemployed French guy sitting Home right now ? As far as Boring....Fell asleep...That's why I prefer the Outdoors. Supercross is becoming WWE,
Ramey is right, short woulda won if he was on a ...say... Honda. I r dumb.
Since we're noticing things, take out js, rv, tv and cr and short is top 3 again. Hmmm
when I saw BS7 get the holeshot, the thought went through my head- maybe I should just go home now and beat the traffic home, RV almost made it interesting though. Pretty boring to watch follow the leader, they need to design better tracks that are more than 1 lined.
take out half the field and alessi would've made the main
I didn't see one good duel. I agree with Unforgiven, they might need to go to the 2 moto concept like the outdoors. The odds are the same guy would not get the holeshot both motos and that would make for better racing. There all looking a little to content in there top 5 finish. Should keep the series close and maybe make the Seattle race relevant for a change.
How about 66 decotis from off the couch to 7th place as a fill in guy in the lites class.
beancanyon-Reed-Dungey did trade spots a couple of times, that was a little exciting. i know, the battle for 4th, woo hoo.
WWWAY to many commercials, they should have bits and pieces of great races of years past to make filler time. Oh ya and whats with the camera work and the people in the booth deal they are so out of touch with each other that none of them knows whats going on, very shabby on speeds part 2 weeks in a row. Dungey is not up to speed or maby he is and stewart and villo are in another class either way he better step up to the plate and soon. Dont like Reed, but being on his own i find myself an in the closet fan.
One more comment on the 2 moto deal. I think these guys are to worried to lose the whole season over one crash and zero points. Having the points split into 2 motos you could DNF and still win the second moto and gain valuable points. I bet it would be more exciting.
Soooo sick of speeds supercross coverage after two weeks, I'm just about ready to hit mute. First week they make a big deal about rv winning like his career was over, now its a big deal because js wins...his career was over to. These guys are supposed to win, thats why they are making huge $. Erin Bates needs to stop being a pain in ass, and holy hell is roczen a wrecking ball.
If you watch Short in the main,he pulled pretty good withe 4-fittys,and remember the 250s were turning in the 50s too. So is the 350 to slow..maybe a little,I predict the KTM 380 will make a comeback,it'll just sound like a 4 banger!
Wow, I can not believe some of you tards are complaining about finally having live supercross! If you don't like it tape the race on your VCR and leave the live racing to the true fans that have been waiting all week for the race. Admittedly the format and presentation is not perfect but the coverage has improved tremendously over last year and hopefully it will continue to improve as long as its fans do more then just complain constantly.
Milsaps goes from former lites champ/ multi-time 450 winner to not cracking the top ten, Brayton wins a heat race last week and hasn't backed it up in a main event and Stewart has gone from 2 seconds faster than everyone to being within a few tenths of 3 or 4 riders. Yamaha sucks.
What's up with Dungey?? Thought he was the new "man"??? He is great and last year was an awesome one for him, but he has to deal with JS, RV, CR and TC this year....and that does make a difference!!!! I guess nobody is immune to crashing while pushing it, but if RV keeps it up on two i think we were in for a pretty good race!! A still fast as hell AND patient James Stewart could possibly spell trouble for these guys!! He's done???? Not hardly!!
....and also....LOVE seeing Trey Canard doing so well......absolutely love it!!
Relieve the Tripe
Two moto format would certainally make the racing more interesting for sure. As for those KTM bashers, get a life!! Japs need more competition anyways.
I don't know what is the problem with the track builders this year, are they new to this, c'mon. MAKE SOME GOOD TRACKS ALREADY. As far as KTM, Roger is new to this team but you can bet he will get some good riders next year, Who was the dumbas that hired Alessi.
What part about Stewart not winning does the media not get? RV won, yet he is mentioned 2nd in the article? What is the deal!
Oopsie, wrong week, I am the DUMBASS!
Did I hear the comment, "looks like his wrist is broken" when refering to Josh Grant?
Lbiggie, i wondered the same thing! Why didn't Villo have the red number plate? The four riders that beat Dungy were the four he didn't have to race against every week end last year. He better get use to 5th place!
I was also wondering about Grant. Also, I thought for sure the wheel sensor thing that came up on Stewarts bike would be the talk of the message boards. I'm a fan but the question did seem to make him squirm a bit on the podium. Score one for Erin.
Interesting. The AMA rules prohibit wheel sensors on the front wheel only. http://www.amasupercross.com/rules/pdf/2011/2011_sxrulebook_final.pdf Section 1.14 if anyone is interested. Page 10.
Why didn't Stroupe start the main? He looked like a player in his Heat...
Good race between JS and RV while it lasted. Track was horrible and probably the worst I've ever seen. Hope KDUB is all good. Sucks that a lapper basically took him out. We've got a good battle on our hands between the top 5.
I don´t know what are you all complaining about? We´ve had 2 different winners in two races and the top 5 is in within 13 points? The defending champion was 2nd in the first race and 5th in the second and I don´t think he hasn´t got any slower, that tells me the field is stacked and the speed is good. All the top 10 guys are fast! I enjoyed the racing very much! Can´t wait for next week :)
"... I thought for sure the wheel sensor thing that came up on Stewarts bike would be the talk of the message boards." second that. I'm still wondering if there is something to sort out there. and for those dissing Dungey, he's not done yet. He caught and passed Reed and Brayton, then got juked by a lapper who flubbed a corner. Seemed he lost a little wind from his sails after that.
So the Anti-KTM botards thought Short was going to beat JS7-RV2-TC41-CR22-RD1? Brayton is no joke either. What does that say for Metcalfe who gets beat by a mini-bike? You people are just stupid.
Believe the Hype....800 doesn't make the main That's funny!! Send him packin he is done. All the factory guys should be makin the main period...unless they are layin on the ground
garageman has a point, whats with the wheel sensor thing? James was lying like a rug and was upset on the question. But just like nascar if you aint cheeting you aint winning! i think its good for the sport to find new things to improve the bikes.
Ya not good for his first win to be over shadowed by the wheel sensor. I love the question, I thought JS was gonna puke, the factory must love that kind exposure. As far as the tracks I completely agree, way too technical, what are they trying to promote? I would like to see more than one line.
Is anyone else tired of hearing Stewart referred to as "the fastest man on the planet"?? Maybe a look back at the results from last week and Unadilla 2010 is needed. Guys, get of the Stewart Love Train and realize he is fast, but not "the fastest on the planet"!! You make me sick!!!!
too much complaining!!!
I think the 350, while a great bike, was a total waste of money for KTM. It's essentially a 250 two stroke which they still support and update! KTM shouldn't be trying to open new markets. They need to revive the old one since that's what people are missing.
Top five guys are top five in points. Live TV coverage. Everyone still healthy and a packed field. All 4 major brands represented in top 5. How can you possibly complain? Something for all the lovers and haters.
You can always tell something happened at the front of the race by hearing the crowd roar, because you never get to see it as Speed's director always misses it every time. Every crash by JS and RV you just heard the crowd and then......OH somebody went down at the front while Speed is busy showing you the guy who crashed in 20th place!!.................Absolute garbage....Ralph Shaheen: Donnie Hansen won the lites race.
I wish Weignat would quit bashing Reed every chance he gets. He obviously wasnt watching the same race i was cause Reed and Dungey were both catching Canard at the end. Also sick of everyone thinking JS7 is the only guy on the track and that he cant be beat.
Do they not do tech inspection anymore? I really doubt that Yamaha would put something illegal in such a visible spot. And as far as Dungey goes...I think this is exactly where he would have been last year with same field of riders in place. If james,Villo,and Canard all get hurt Dungey will be right where he wants to be.
We're only 2 races in, so any C'ship predictions are a joke - just getting rolling here. Track contributed to the boring race, but loved the sand section, especially the little kicker right at the end. Stewart hasn't lost any speed, RV will threaten, CR22 might have something for them with a good start, Canard was impressive but needs to find just a little more speed. Dungey stunk up the place at Hangtown then went on a run. He is going to need to step it up a couple of levels if he is going to get on the box in 2011 SX. Re: TV - yeah, could be better, but come on, it's live moto on TV...what's not to love? Can't wait to hear more about the speed sensor on JS7's rear wheel. And also the rationale behind the AMA rule on sensors on the front wheel only (speedometer?).
Told you to watch out for Stroupe's Cat'like reflexes on holeshots. He didn't let me down in the Heat. He led JS and Reed for a while. Martin Davalos was riding soooo fast. He would have put some heat on the Kawi's all night had he not dropped it. Villopoto's mistake was definately What everyone thought James would make. short and alessi need to ritire. Trust me When i say Reed, and Dungey will have there time to shine in 2011. Stroupe is still not Race ready but dayam he was on point. Feld needs to hire me to design their tracks. Multi' Lined, so no more follow the leader. What was w/ james when asked about his "traction control". NO, we werent looking at a piece of dirt DumMY, Your effin motorcycle. Just so happens he holeshotted the main with that device. HMMM. he wasn't too pumped on people seeing that there. good job Erin bates. My boy Ken roczen needs a holeshot and than you guys can see how well he rides. ga ga ga gone with it
Looks like L&M has been caught with their pants down. I don't care what they call it, it WAS a traction control device. He look guilty as hell when when asked about it.
Yea, I think it was RC who said, "he broke his wrist." RC needs to work on his booth skills. It takes him forever to say his point. He single handedly sends my blood pressure thru the roof. So glad he's gone for next week!! Still love ya RC but you need help in the booth.
go jeff alessi! he made the main but his brother didnt? mike not doing good cause his dad isnt there! they need to trade in those 350s for some 65 sxs cause im sure they would be faster. both mike and short are holeshot masters and not even on same grid as rest of field. leave alessi on the 350 and at least put short on a 450. decoster should know better than that.
Was shaping up to be a great race. Rv caught Stewie and was following and waiting for a chance. And he screwed up in the same spot Stewie went down in his heat race. They had such a gap he got up and still had a 5 second gap. Unreal. The rest of the guys better pick it up or it will be a 2 man show again. Dungey looked very out of sorts. Reed looked smooth but not very fast either.
Motojockey, Since you brought up Unadilla; If you look at the practice times, you will see that Stewart did have the fastest lap in practice. Not too bad for his first race after injury. I will agree that the final result for the day did not impress.
Not bashing on Stewart but i am wondering about the devise they found on his rear wheel. Was it traction control? I mean did you see his face when he was asked about it at the end of the race. I know that face, its the face of someone hiding something. My kids put it on all the time. I don't believe he would cheat but when i saw his reaction when he was asked my Bates what it was and if it help i was kinda shocked. If it was traction control that is a huge advantage. You figure you can just crack the throttle open and the ignition will adjust for will speed. No excessive wheel spin and holeshots every time. I don't know, just would like to know what it was. Can't think of any other reason to have a wheel speed sensor on the rear tire.
I just wasted about 10 minutes reading comment after comment of the same redundant garbage. MX is sure full of hicks and "know-it-alls" that can't seem to structure a decent sentence. Makes me a bit ashamed to be part of this sport. Furthermore, a request for Speed: please get rid of your whole commentator team (especially Ralph), and put Jason Weigandt up there.
Hey dudes, if that "sensor" is a perfectly legal thing, then what the hell are yu *****in' about??!! Watch those start to show up on other bikes now!! Why the hell wouldn't you run something that potentially improves the bike?? No foul there!!!
Sorry, my spelling is all jacked up!
True, i just read that, if speed sensors are allowed on the rear wheel then the other teams are behind in not using them!
pizzacorner, haven't you heard? It's all about horsepower. Obviously there are 13 300's out there because thats the only way a 350 can beat them. H&H really needs to do something about there underpowered Kawasakis, Tedesco didn't holeshot and short ran him down in their heat. Your not implying that the @%$#talkers don't have a clue, are you. I hope not , if not for them I wouldn't know Josh Hill won the sx title last year, race wins and championships are decided by who wins practice. They know. and DONNIE hansen sure kicked ass, huh Ralph
Im not sure what everyone is complaining about. We got to see it live which is awesome, Villopoto showed he can race with Stewart, none of the top 5 guys are hurt yet and I cant wait for next week!
I love how everyone is bagging on dungey already after just 2 races. Last night wasnt his night. He got a terrible start. Fought his way up to 3rd...and then lappers crashed in front of him and got passed by canard and reed again. Saying that he doesnt have the same speed??? Ridiculous! Remember last week when he was gaining on RV2 throughout the whole race??? People are so closed minded. Dungey just has to work on his starts and he will be fine.
I agree d ran that people dont need to be bagging on Dungey yet, but he wasnt faster then RV2 last week. Villopoto was just cruising and realized RD was gaining on him then threw down a lap that was a full second faster then RD and went back to cruise mode
dran, those excuses only work for stewart.
stewart "fastest man on planet" yeah now that RC stepped down , but RV is stepping up and will make bubba start earning his victory's. as for his "device" it is trying to push the rules aka CHEATING
I think Shorty ended up right where he should have. His starts were decent and it looks like the 350 is getting better. The track looked slick, Stewart played it safe and won it at the start....If RV would have got around the "old man" KW sooner and showed a wheel on the first or second lap, it may have been a better race. Canard looked strong, It won't be long befor he's on top of the box. I can't wait untill Stroupe is 100% Ithink he will add some excitement.
If if's and buts were candy and nuts. Who cares about fastest parctice times? pretty sure they dont show up to win the practice championship. A race is a race. They all left the gate at the same time. If a lapper fell, Stewarts traction control failed or Ralph Sheheen made his 200th stupid comment of the night doesnt mean much. How they deal with that stuff and finish is what actually means something. Besides, Stewarts probably gonna land on someone again like last year and break himself anyway.
Anyone hating on KTM is an idiot. They won the MX1 championship last year on the 350 so it is clearly an amazing bike, but beyond that, they are one of the few companies going all out to help lift up the sport right now.
Anyone else notice that 'ol #7 was cheating?... Pretty awesome that they called him out on live tv
Has anyone else noticed RC is on course for a head-on collision with a Subway Commercial? Perhaps a year removed from the Biggest Loser. Be the GOAT and eat a Salad guy
I believe that Roger DeCoster would put Short or Alessi on a 450 in a minute if he could. I don't think that KTM will let him (KTM wants to promote the 350 - they own that market). I am not saying the 350 is not good. I believe that Roger would do anything and I mean anything to help his team win. So why would he give up horsepower? I think that Roger and KTM have slightly different goals. But in the end, he works for KTM and he must make do with the tools that he has been given.
Listen here holeshat that hurt like hell.....alot like when "chicken"landed on guy cooper during the 1998 puyallup sx. listen guys i dont want to split hairs but the sensor on the stewies wheel was bought and paid for....not stolen as some have said. ktm sux. btw anyone hear if jimmy lemastus is goung to be riding the new atk 700 2 stroke next year?
I only hope that decoster will take KR off the bike for a few weeks to let him heal and practice the fine art of indoor racing. At his present rate he won't be alive for outdoors. I want soooo badly to see him race the outdoors. That boy can cook!
Hey "partridge", if thats really you, which i really think it is, I totally feel bad for you after that one. I mean he shot over the track and straight at you like you were one of those white girls that are always dancin around on his show. Btw, did you ever get tested after that run in?
HOW DO I TURN OFF CAPS?
If not used for traction control than WTF is that five figure$$$ Device "piece of dirt" for??? Even if its not purely traction control, Its still telling those guys exactly what rmp to start on in all different kinds of dirt. Either way, its a BS way of cheating. Gibbs didn't even know what that thing was, and you think He's on any kind of budget??? I hate the way things are becoming. All BIKES SHOULD BE BONE STOCK... If you ride for suzuki, you ride a rmz 450 off the showroom. Kawi riders, get stock kawi's. None of this James Stewart has a computer and seperate motor on his rear wheel BS would ever happen. Also, I'd make a 3rd class. One for 250 2'strokes only. Have 3 main events, stock bikes... No BS. Cant wait til Tedesco, RV, or RD puts him in the cheap seats.
you guys are as good as the races. go RV
I'd like to point out that CR22 handled RD on a privateer bike, chad isn't my favorite rider or anything, but I think it is noteworthy. Stewie definitely had traction control, if you looked closely you could tell that his bike was hardly throwing any roost compared to others. The ama only bans front wheel speed sensors because theoretically the computer would need to have something to compare rear wheel speed to for effective traction control. However if you probramed it to react to spikes in rear wheel speed alone, it would work. Also on a side note, RC really, really needs to start working out again.
Now im confused...i just want to know if that "device" is legal or not!! The link the guy posted above, which he said made it sound legal on the rear wheel but not the front, actually makes me think it is not legal at all!! Can someone please clarify with facts, and not just opinions??
First off, lets stop complaining about the coverage. We go from getting to watch Supercross/Motocross a few times a year to having multiple Live events now. Lets not screw ourselves over by complaining and taking one step forward and two steps back. Secondly, the lapper issue seriously, seriously needs to be looked at. I know and respect the fact that we need a full gate as that is one thing that helps the sport revolve, but we had several mishaps last night. I believe it was Ryan Clark, which I have huge respect for, he's a total class act, but he single handedly could have messed Villy up while running 2nd while trying to regroup from a washout, he took Windham out while he was running third, and in the process took Dungey out of the third place position he had just earned and put him back into fifth. Like I said, I mean no disrepect to Clark, but should we make it manditory to pull off of the track after being lapped? Maybe some other measure, but lets face it. If you've either crashed or are just off of the pace enough to get lapped, how many points do you think are possible to make up after that point? Just my two cents worth and sorry for diareaha of the mouth.
Shorty is adapting. He blitzed the whoops and stuffed Ivan in the heat race, just as engineers predicted would be possible. Ivan is no slouch this year either, setting the fourth fastest lap time in practice. You see, Matthes and all his blather about "running out of steam at the end of the whoops" will eventually come back to bite him. DeCoster is building the race team from the ground up this year, KTM has no track data, no solid baseline, no reference points and still Shorty got 7th on a tough track. As Ping said in the podcast, he didn't believe the engineers claims about the KTM 350, but it did get the best starts in the bike test, no matter who the test rider was.
GREAT racing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! period dont count out andrew short yet
roczen, get out of there kid, or you will not come in one piece to race the GPs here in europe.. the ktm managers should be shame, they don't have no one better than a 16 year kid.. I mean, roczen has speed and talent, but he doesn't had the experience of racing sx... they should put him race at least the australian sx so that he can gain some experience....but no, they send the kid into the wolves mouths..
As for the TV coverage this year... I'm not super pumped. The live shows are so long, it probably is turning new viewers away. Even seasoned fanatics are having issues with the length of the shows, since they are on so late for half of the country. There's too much down time between heats/LCQ and between the LCQ and the main events. Also, there is a shit blizzard of commercials like I've never seen. The tracks are a mess, with the corners widths too narrow for anything but one line, and the corners are too sharp, being mostly 90-180 degrees. Too many flat turns. If the track doesn't "flow" as the riders say, and most of the turns are stop and go, you get a processional race that would make Tony Montana sleepy.
Sorry, one more thing. As far as the sensor on Stews bike. I mean, come on, the TRUE privateer, the one riding out of his own Econoline van, is already down 10+HP on the factory bikes, doesn't have the suspension the factory bikes have, nor the unlimited parts available to maitain his bike between races. Do we really want to allow sensors and/or traction control units on our bikes? Isn't that why we did away with Works Bikes back in the 80's? To make it more fair to the guy doing it out of his own pocket? I know that talent is talent and that the top guys could probably smoke most everyone else if they were on stock bikes, but do we really need for them to have advantages to be even faster than the guys that put in the same amount of work that aren't as fortunate to have financial means to have a 100 thou+ bike? Just another two cents worth, I'll shut up now.
whats with js and a wheel sensor on his rear wheel ??????????????? can he do that?? just wanted to know
K. I know I said I'd shut up, but, for the complainers of the tv coverage. You guys DO realize that the entire Live event, 4 heats, 2 lcq's, and 2 mains last about the same amount of time as a football game. I don't forsee the NFL shortening it down to two 15 minute qtrs anytime soon. Just sayin...
If the device on Stewies rear wheel is there to control wheel spin, AKA traction control, its illegal. If its just a wheel sensor to record speed or braking, its fine. Dont know if the AMA cheched it or even saw it. Stewie didnt want to talk about it on the podium, thats for sure. And nickeldude, 10 horsepower down?? Dont think so. Maybe down a whole lot on pounds, not so much horsepower. Suspension sure, cant even get close on alot of one off parts. But 10 horsepower may be a little much. But yea, we get your point for sure.
I HAVE AN IDEA LETS CALL UP DOC BROWN HOP IN THE TRUSTY DELOREAN AND PIN IT AT 88MPH TO LOOK INTO THE FUTURE FOR THE RACE RESULTS. ITS A LIVE BROADCAST KNUCKLEHEADS HOW ARE YOU GONNA SHORTEN IT? KTM SUCKS. HOW DO I TURN OFF CAPS
bd, man I don't know. 10 HP could be realistic. Think about Joe Racer who had his local sponsor do some head work for him, put an exhaust on and the other little normal bolt ons available to the public versus Dungey's Team Zook. They've probably put over a 1000 hrs into working the head running dyno, reworking the head running dyno, changing carb settings running dyno. 10 HP may not be unrealistic. I remember several years ago when RC was on a two stroke Honda and rumors were that they were squeezing like 72 HP out of that thing and because of all the wheelspin they had to actually detune the motor. These 450's are pumping out 50-52 HP stock. You really believe it to be impossible to squeeze close to 80 out of em? I could be wrong but it's just a thought.
Flux, LMAO. Best post I've seen in a while.
What happened to Austin Stroupe in the main no start?
Hear that sound............................ it's Stewart shutting my trap for his Phoenix ride. His bke sure was planted on the starts and out of the corners.
Great. Traction control devices that cost $10,000+, coming to a track near you. I mean a closed track, due to the high cost of racing these days. If traction control is allowed in the coming years, you'll will definitely have to run it to remain competitive.
Big improvement from 10th to 7th for Andrew. 6th on up is were it gets tough. Roczen will go out on his shield , KTM needs to pull the SX plug on him
I love how everyone jumps to conclusions! You don't even know what was on Stewarts bike. The reason why Stewart didn't like Erin's question is because she didn't know what it was either. Everyone should wait and find out what it was before you cry about them cheating!
"Stewart didn't like Erin's question is because she didn't know what it was either." Really? thats the best excuse you have for his panic?
There has to be a better way than having Erin Bates looking like an ambulance chaser. Running around for comments after your bike breaks or crashing like Roczen was over the top , IDK someone explain the positives with that please. Can you imagine trying that with Hannah ?
YZ Sean. So far after 2 rounds, VILLIPOTO RULES and Dungey SUCKS!
Just watched the re-air of last nights race and the 450 LCQ. I thought the first time I watched that Blose took Browne out, but after watching it again it looked like he just ran him high on the berm and never touched him. Sweet Pass Pimp Juice. (Heard him called that on DMXS Radio Show once)
Did anyone else notice the obvious take out of Grant by J. Alessi in the heat race? He appears to look over at #33 twice as he takes out the front wheel in that rythym section....... I guess big baby Alessi (Tony) got his wish for the night ......since his "income" couldn't make the main...what a joke....Roger D looked disgusted.....
Stewarts interview would have been good for a twix commercial. Need a moment? Grab a twix
I think Roczen must have studied old Supercross footage of Greg Albertyn (circa '95) while listening to his favorite '90's band Crash Test Dummies on the head phones.
Stewarts interview would have been good for a twix commercial. Need a moment? Grab a twix
Would have created the same results if stewy was on a kawi, suzuki or whatever. The device is a little computer that picks up the information on his braking chattering and acceleration, has absolutely no effect on performance just gives you the information on those stats. JS did it perfect on a slippery track, if he would have thrown down the fastest lap like every other time on the track, and tipped over, everyone would say he was 'immature or impatient, people these days.
I think full race results/standings would be nice in the Race Report.
I think full race results/standings would be nice in the Race Report.
The Holeshat for any of the top 5 will make for a podium finish. This is wicked good
You guys complaining about commercials do realize that the races were uninterrupted? I'll take a pile of commercials at once to see a whole race play out. It gives you a chance to go take a leak and grab a beer, or water and a lettuce wrap, whatever your thing is. Though the commercials that cracked me up were the ones for "collectors coins", or 2 dollar bills... Is there something I'm missing about our demographic? Am I late to the coin collector craze that's sweeping the nation? Are you guys in other parts of the country seeing these too, or is it a Michigan thing?
Jeff Alessi went by the Honda truck afterward to rub it in the take out on Josh Grant. He looked back quite a few times going down that straight, then moved over on him in the air to block him. Not much can be done about it, and it may not have been entirely intentional, it just worked out very well for Jeff, and not so good for Grant. Hey, too bad, so sad for Grant. Josh started it when he intentionally took Mike Alessi out when he was riding MX with a pinned together kneecap. And don't think I'm taking sides, because I hate them all... Alessi's and the Grants. But it sure makes things entertaining. Here's to Josh getting well soon, so he can continue the revenge cycle. We'll be waitin' and watchin' fer it.
motohead, well said bro! And yeah, we're getting the awesome coin collecting commercials here too! Makes me wanna go out and buy a crapload of em and display them right next to my talking Billy Bass. Everything on that wall will go up in value by at least 500% within the next year! Hope you enjoy hearing the words of a sure bet of a rich man in the future!
Any word on Grant yet, is he really hurt? I really want to see everybody stay healthy, it'll make for better racing. The one or two man follow the leader show has gotten really old over the past couple years.
Canard awesome, he's coming 'round, didn't he kick RV's ass a couple of years ago on his rookie year when RV was supposed to be the shit on the lites class? yeah he did.
Wouldn't it be cool to have RC back in there, he would have to lose some weight though, he is looking porky, a little more and that nascar of him is gonna suffer.
nickeldude, I know things change fast in the moto world. But some friends of mine race flat track. They dont have the engine restrictions that they have in motocross. And the most he has ever seen from a 450 is 61 horsepower without boring out the engine. Which is illegal in motocross. but they all say the power of a 450 is plenty for even the top pros. The big advantage they have is mapping the engine to make power were the individual rider prefers the power. Something a privateer cant do.
Seriously! Some people complaining about too much TV coverage! I've been waiting years for this. For many of us SX/MX is our passion! Unlike many sports which are full of primadonnas making 1 to 20 $mill a year risking mostly minor to moderate injury, and talking about going on strike,or holding out for more money, motocross racers are the real deal! They risk their asses for a mere pittance of the of the salaries that these low risk atheletes make. Why, some may ask? The reason is in their blood! It's what they do! It's what they have always done! It's the undescribable feeling of having control of the most free flowing machine man has possibly ever created. With all the power daring you to test her. And don't talk about commercials! Just watch a golf tournament, basketball, football, baseball, or any other sport. Daaa....... where do you think the money comes from? So please stop *****ing and enjoy whats finally on the horizon!!
Yes they can; mapping and exhaust programming can be done in a lot of places right now for privateers. www.mxptv.com/2011/01/products-pr2-racing-shop-tour/
Indeed, the Grant vs Alessi saga is old news and the Alessi's are a joke..Tony is a whacked out glorified soccer dad.......More to come I am sure....Hopefully JG33 isnt too seriously injured.....looked like he was favoring his shoulder to me.....but what do I know.....should hear something official tomorrow!
bd, thats cool man. Not trying to get into a heated debate over whose bike has what horsepower. Hell, I've been very wrong on well more than one occasion. My whole point is, I think with all of the new technology coming out with the bikes we need to take a close look at what is allowed on these machines in order to keep it fair for the little guy. Hey if you wanna check brake chatter, cool, do it at the test track. Ultimately thats how we get better bikes every year anyways right. But to have an unfair advantage at a race where money and reputations are on the line, well thats my whole snafu. Joe Racer can't analyze brake chatter, wheel spin, or how much his crank flexes at 12,000 RPM (pun intended), so why should someone with seemingly endless amount of funds be able to? Just wanna fair, clean, fight. Now touch gloves and lets get it on...
Like I said all last year......Dungey is a "paper tiger".
Scottydog, it's the second of 17 races. Careful or you could be eating crow very soon! He ain't giving up yet!!
scottydog, you'll be eating your own shit very soon...watch it.
redneck, I believe that is your undisputed title!! Yours for life unfortunately!!!
dungeyfan, A+. still laughing............
Hey "redneck"...you live up to your name perfectly!!!! Like who you like, and dislike as well, but you should keep your backwoods, ignorant racial comments tucked away in that feeble mind of yours!!!
AMA checks the bikes before and after the race is finished. A tech inspection of top finishers before they go to the pits. If L&M were cheating they would have been DQ. So apparently no cheating. Think before pointing fingers or at least learn the rules.
You guys who have determined what was on Stewarts bike,how it works,what it is for,and how much it costs...I have 1 question for you. Why are you here? With intelligence like that you should surely be engineers or top mechanics for a factory race team. You obviously know so much more than anyone in the actual industry. I am sure it went unoticed by tech inspection and everyone in the pits...only to be noticed by the speed crew...who obviously brought it up and formed their own opinion to create drama for a somewhat boring broadcast. if you noticed James on the podium his first words when asked that question were " you guys are crazy"... But, I will play...Stewart certainly would have lost without his "Top Secret" $10,000 illegal cheater part" Give me a break!
ktm needs a 450 and a good rider, Short was a waste of hype!! As for the commentators, do not get rid of RC or emig!! PLease don't ever put Jason Weigant in the commentators booth!!! That was someones stupid idea on here.
Here's the rule about traction control. 1.14 Telemetry and Traction Control a. Electronic devices designed specifically for traction control are prohibited. This includes sensors that can determine front wheel speed, and any electronic control to the brake systems. b. Electronic transmitting of information, including radio communication to or from a moving motorcycle, is prohibited with the following exceptions: 1. Official transponders utilized for scoring purposes (mandatory equipment assigned by Timing and Scoring). 2. Data or video transmitted or recorded for the sole use by the approved event television production. 3. Electronic lap timing devices are permitted. Transmitter beacons must be in an approved area. Receivers shall not be mounted on the front area of the front number plate.
Traction control is being developed for MX bikes. Since the GET units start at $6500, $10,000 for a full blown traction control system is about right. A couple hours ago, Chad Reed tweeted that all the factories are using a ECU based form of "traction assist" just like they started using in fuel injected road race bikes. It helps on the start, and helps during hard acceleration off of the corners. If you are going to extremely smug, smart-assed comments like a yamahauler, first ya gotta know something, son!
The tracks are too tight, too one lined!! I know why. Look down 1st and 3rd base line at chase field. you could easily drive a semi through there! WHY??? Maybe to keep the track further away so they can sell front row seats? 48 sec lap times? at least adjust the # of laps. Two moto format might not be a bad idea.......? Too bad Kdub got taken out he was figthing hard! Hope he can find a way to get back in the hunt! Roczen is fearless!!! Hope he's OK!!! KTM's don't suck! I beat the piss out of mine and she keeps scootin......... I love her!!!!
redneck, dude you're funny!! I know you're really not like that! You shouldn't play like that. People think we're racist enough already! Most mx people are just hard workin family folks. Don't have it out for anybody, just want to ride and have fun....thats all......
Ktm, doesn't suck, live tv doesn't suck, Dungey doesn't suck. we need to be a little more grateful for what we have, and for these guys' talent. don't we all wish we could do ride like even a 10th place guy out there? send that 10th place guy to your local track and he'd look like a superstar. but out there he looks like a fool. just sayin
yamahauler, just so you know, it was chatter from the Joe Gibbs crew that noticed the deal on stews bike not Speed. Joe Gibbs is trying something cool like they do in NASCAR that allows people to hear their chatter. Someone who studies bikes all day everyday picked that up not Erin. And the only reason that everyone is suspicious was the deer in headlights behavior that Stew displayed when asked about it. I'm not saying he was or wasn't cheating. Only a few people know the true intentions of whatever is on his bike. My only thing is I want MX to be on as fair of a playing field as possible. And REDNECK PLEASE STOP BREATHING. YOU'RE WAISTING GOOD AIR....
I think Short definitely had traction control, but it is legal, it comes built in to every 350. For Alessi it was qualify control to prevent qualifying. Seriously though, nice ride by Shorty although I definitely think the track suited a 350 as this was one case where more power just didn't get the hookup. Has Phoenix always resembled concrete with tiny marbles strewn on it? Could they get a lip or groove in the corners so these guys can carry some speed? Looked like a bunch of guys with no spikes trying to race on ice. Surprised we saw any passing at all!
rmz, thats a big 10 4
I'm intrigued by this question of what was on Stewart's bike...and it might reference back to the comments in Matthes' article about Gothic Jay refusing to put a part on Grant's bike last week and getting "benched". I mean, what part would a mechanic actually refuse to install (and jeopardize his job by doing so) unless it was something against the rules? This is some interesting sheet.
Dungey is a great rider and a class act when it comes to interviews and a spokesman for the sport as a champion... I like him. However, JS7 and RV2 two weeks into the season appear to be a few clicks faster than Dungey and the rest of the field overall.....If the track is crap, its crap for all the riders and that is where there natural speed and talent will prevail....Dungey is still beating the riders he did last year, however their were a few folks missing last year and we are seeing what happens when everyone is in class .....and healthy.
im sooo tired of people saying dungey didnt deserve the # 1 plate because cr and js7 were out for the season....part of supercross is being the strongest man and last year dungey was the strongest man
"redneck"...your apparent attempt at humor is pretty lame dude!! I'm not gonna waste any more time on you.......wow, racial humor is just HILARIOUS!!! Putz!!
B-KR, huh, interesting thought.. You never know! Maybe they will take the win from stewie? You think he's fast now!... wait 'till he has to make up that deficit!!
Good on you 801 ! Anyone remember 33 separating RV from his bike at Atalnta SX 08 in one of the dirtiest / hardest hits ever ?
Bazzazz...I know its being developed for mx bikes...and I really dont care what Chad Reed Tweeted...What bothers me are the people on here who wouldnt know a brake clevis from a spoke nipple...let alone a sophisticated traction control device. Calling someone a cheater without really knowing what is/does is ignorant. And Nickeldude...I watched the entire broadcast I know they played the "chatter" from JGR, I just have a hard time believing that JGR is the only one that noticed. I also think that if ANY of the teams thought it was illegal someone would have protested.And bazzaz...i do know a thing or two been riding racing mx since 1976...I didnt mean to insult people like you who are in touch with whats new and being developed I just get sick of all of the idiotic comments. Son
Josh Grant, another year , different team and same sh!tty results. Maybe a few more tatoo's and Metal Melusha gear with your Posse there and you might be able to finish a moto. Total Joke! Why in the heck did we have to be compared to Monster 'Hay seed' Trucks and suspension. I Like the Fat guy rolling his truck at the trailer park races. Nice comparison..........
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Jeff alessi came over so hard on grant. Definately a take out move. Tony must have spoodled his pants, he hates josh grant so much. Traction Control is illegal in AMA. So My opinion,,, THERE DOESN'T NEED TO BE ANY SORT OF DEVICE ON ANYONES BIKE. How'd i know it would be JS. What a dirt'bag "you guys are nuts! its a piece of dirt". mark my words. Villopoto Will Beat Stewart. as for Stroupie, He was fast as he11 but doesn't have the fitness to put in a solid 20, yet. He's a Holeshot master tho
Jimbo I sure do! RV got hung up and went down on a wall section and JG33 tried to blow through him! Lost some respect for Josh that day! I think RV was riding with a hurt wrist or something.
I bet Josh Grant Puts down faster lap-times on the honda test track than Canard and K'dub. He's riddled with bad luck, like getting taken out by some faggg on his dads teet. Congrats mike, you officially suck. I'm so glad he wasn't the national champ, That'd be downright Embarrassing to say he was a former champ. Cant even make the show. Roczen is a BAda$$ and will shine! give him a couple weeks to settle in. He needs some propanelol before he rides
Maybe I'm getting old, but once upon a time we found out who won the last Supercross race by waiting until Wednesday, when we all got that weeks issue of Cycle News. The only televised race was on Wide World of Sports... 3 months after it happened. Commercials pay for air time. (hit the MUTE button during commercials) Maybe some of the comentary is corny, but try watching the whole track at once and comment on it. Please support whatever TV coverage we can get, or we will be only reading about it the next day.
rmzchris and patriot, That's what i'm talking about!!!!
Traction control....Really? Come on guys.... Ralph and the guys have to find a little drama to through into the mix as a cliff hanger. Ratings matter, especially for a 3 hour primetime broadcast. JS7 may be cheating but I have an idea it's in his DNA, not bolted onto the rear of his Yami. But, guess I'll have to stay tuned to find out. Hmmmm... and AMEN Patriot.
yamahauler, my bad man. I'll get back to checkin my blinker fluid and repacking my muffler bearings. Just messin with ya bud. Ya'll have a good one.
Dungey .... you are DONE, G In my opinion your championships have the sport's biggest fattest asterisks beside them. But don't feel bad. Somebody has to win when the winners can't race.
Another bummer again for Honda Racing & Josh Grant. I hope it's not serious. Honda took JG33 obviously because of affordability. Now, JG33 possibly on the sideline again is bummer, esp. to a team who puts all efforts possible to regain an elusive title. I just wonder, given CR22 is said to be comfortable with hondas, then they might have a two pilots who are podium threats week-in, week-out.. Anyway, as everyone expected, the 5 in front would be swapping places every week on my opinion. Reed has to figure out his starts. He needs to, because the investments he had with his own team, a win is like a paradise for him... And like everyone has observed, the track in phoenix is still again single-lined, with everyone following the leader, unless you've got balls to risk a race for pass.
Why is Mike Alessi still on a factory team? Pretty sure I could give KTM better results. As horrible as Roczen has been doing during his first few supercrosses, at least he's making the friggin main event. Alessi is a bag of shit that needs to be dropped on the doorstep of a satellite team and lit on fire.
Wow.... I truly can't believe how dumb 90% of the people posting comments are, itâ
Wow.. I can't believe how dumb 90% of the people posting comments really are, itâ
HEY RYAN VILLOPOTO I AM GOING TO THE SUPERCROSS ON MAY 7TH SO I WILL SEE YOU THERE AND MY NAME IS STACI HOPPER I AM 21 I HAVE A PIC OF YOU IN MY ROOM
Just in case YZSEAN checks in... DUNGY STINKS!!! LOL RV and JS are at another level. Funny how the 5 guys that beat RD 3 of them did less than 5 races last year and the other won 7 Hmmmmmmmmmm
If anyone watched the 2009 "Inside the Moto" series with all the Grant /Alessi nonsense, I am not suprised of the tactics by Team Alessi...However, another thing I observed on that series was some of the comments from Roger D...I dont think Alessi will be on KTM much longer with Roger there... I watched Roger walk right past Tony Alessi saturday night and you could tell there is no love at all.....M. Alessi has talent as I watched both kids grow up while I was racing and poppa Alessi still wrote for cycle news.....sad thing is, Team Alessi has burned bridges with every team they have been on going back to Team Green in the amatuers..kind of sad really...
Amazing how some peopel are so retarded that they would ask for the comments to be disabled just because they don't like them. Guess what numb nuts, this aint your site, or your sport. Go cry in a corner somewhere.
James "look" after the question from eB was a classic "There goes Erin removing all doubt, yet again" expression of disgust based on the timing and consistancy of the amazing questions that spew forth from Ms Bates pie hole. The broadcast of live SX racing has the same problem as going to the event live, long program with lots of dead time, the main event seems sort of like a bit of an anti-climax since it took so long for the show to get there. Lots of dead time means lots of time for RALF and commercials for stuff you didn't know (or want to know) existed, like the 2 two dollar bills for only $10! deal. No human can withstand the combination of Ralphyboy and retardredneck commercials for very long, Tivo, DVR, torrents.....whatever timeshift method available must be employed just to endure the telecast, so, uhhhhh they got that goin' for them over at SPEED.
I think Live TV coverage, albeit cheesey at times, it is WAY better than no coverage at all. As a fan of the sport, I wish every event was live!!!...As a former racer myself, I sometimes laugh at the commentary these guys make or things they happen to miss.For example, not seeing K-DUB involved in that pile up when Dungey and Reed came around in the main.. "looked like a Honda".....They are watching a monitor and pretty much see what we see.....but it is harder to commentate live, so they do a good job overall....Ralph is a "pro" commentator and would be the same if he was covering a chess match.....he reads a teleprompter and RC and FRO just fresstyle usually.....The pre-season special was HORRIBLE to watch I will say.
Grateful for the coverage, but why drop the ball? During the races, they need to elevate the commentary volume over the race noise or not bother to talk at all. This has been true for years now (and this is the only sports coverage where I see it). How hard is this and nobody noticed?? AMA is going to need to kill any wheel-sensors and then a year later it will be swapping out ECUs. No other way to be sure. Watched race with a friend and his young son who is pushing for a bike. What Dad saw: tattoos, taataas, Monster trucks (I tried to say it was a joke), more tattoos, Xrays of broken bones, silicon taataas in S&M outfits, and some racing but we couldn't hear the commentary. He wasn't impressed; and having seen it through fresh eyes I have to say..... I get why.
Yeah, the comments are pure GOLD. If left open and only mildly moderated, this site will rule! In many cases, the comments surpass the content of the articles. Why waste them?
Ktm Sucks
Nickeldude, thats cool, not getting heated at all. And I agree about all the electronic devises that are coming about for the factory teams. Especially with the fuel injection. Alot of this stuff the privateers couldnt dream of having, and I am afraid its going to get out of hand. Like the works bike of yesteryear. The privateers wont have a chance again.
Formula 1 has gone that route, it is still the pinnacle of the sport but it is outrageous expensive.
I dont know how many f**king times in the past that I have heard "this year Stewart has learned patience." STFU already. He doesnt know patience. He wont make it thru the series intact...
Well I just wish at least main events were showed down here in Mexico, I have to get away from internet 'til Monday or tuesday to watch the races on youtube not knowing what happened... Enjoy what u have, and about everything else, enjoy too!! RV all the way!